BUCK: Welcome back, Clay and Buck show.
BUCK: Well said there by Tulsi Gabbard, and it’s all true what she’s saying, right? The effort to paint all Republicans… “Anyone who voted for Trump is a terrorist, an insurrectionist!” It’s pathetic, but it’s also disturbing. You’d like to think that the Biden administration would try something along the lines of arguments and maybe even persuasion.
One thing that’s completely lacking in our political discourse because the authoritarian Biden regime — I think it’s worse as a result of the covid mentality, too — is the Democrats don’t say, “Do this ’cause I think this will be better and agree with us on this and then we can all move together.” It’s “do this or else!” There’s a lot of do this or else mentality on political questions, on things ranging from obviously, you know, masking, to vaccination, to you name it.
You go along or else they want to crush you. And you know it’s very far, as I was saying, Clay, very far from what we were promised, which is normalcy, decency, and unity. We have gotten the opposite of those things. And if anyone is… You know, it’s “I’m not the extremist. You are!” Right? It almost sounds like kids arguing. But let’s look at where the Democrat Party is now.
Elon Musk even said this recently. He was a Democrat by the standards of 10 or 15 years ago. The Democrat Party now, there’s a bunch of lunatics running around making the decisions. They’re crazy. And Joe Biden does whatever they tell him to do. He is no bulwark against the madness.
That’s not me. Everybody comes to their political beliefs at different stages in their lives. And for me I talked about this to a large extent. The Kavanaugh hearings were transformative for me. I watched them, and I said, “I don’t see how anyone can support what the Democrats are doing in the Senate right now to Brett Kavanaugh.”
BUCK: Can I ask you about this, Clay?
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: Do you remember a single Democrat of some standing in the media who was willing to say, “Hey, maybe this whole Kavanaugh character assassination thing is going a little too far”?
CLAY: No, I don’t.
BUCK: I don’t remember a single one.
CLAY: I don’t, and watching that — and I was riveted. And I know a lot of you out there were rid of the by it as well. I just — I couldn’t stop thinking about it. And look. I came from the world of sports. So I’ve always liked and enjoyed the political process, but I’ve never felt that anytime there was such a radical nature as what I saw there. When you’re pulling out a high school yearbook and quizzing a guy based on the superlatives in a high school yearbook?
And the entire Christine Blasey Ford allegations which were bogus — and I’m looking at that from a legal perspective as someone who did criminal law and represented people who were charged with murder and drug dealing and domestic assault. And so I understand the concept of looking at facts and determining whether charges were gonna be made, and then you build on it and see the way that Trump was treated by the media.
And you see the lies, the nasty, dirty lies and — running a media company — seeing the way that Big Tech has rigged everything, it pushes you. And then combine it with the covid lies — it pushes you to challenge and examine everything. And I talked about this in my most recent book. But remember the Mizzou racism allegations, University of Missouri?
BUCK: UVA fraternity rape case.
CLAY: UVA fraternity rape case. And so I got red-pilled, right? And there are some people, right, who never had to look at all those facts and make those determinations. But I look at that sort of chart, that meme that Elon Musk shared of the left-wing just becoming more and more left-wing, and where you started off as a centrist, right, very middle of the road guy or girl, and then it’s like the world is changing around you.
I mean, I think Ronald Reagan said it back in the day in the sixties, as he came out of the sixties, he didn’t leave the Democrat Party; the Democrat Party left him. I kind of feel the same way. That’s why I talk about sanity versus insanity so much because there really is a difference.
BUCK: I’m hoping that there are a lot of older Democrats, actually —
CLAY: Yeah.
BUCK: — who may decide, “What is my party doing to the country right now?” I mean, really look at it. I’m sure there are people listening to this right now who know, ’cause we all know it’s the Joe Biden fantasy version of what the Democrat Party is. It’s, “You know, guys, you know, pushing for the little guy and making sure you can pay your bills and strong unions and fair wages and…” That is not the Democrat Party anymore.
CLAY: No.
BUCK: The Democrat Party is Jeff Bezos’ Washington Post writers will dox you and ruin your life if you don’t think that 4-year-olds should be taught about LGBTQIA+ pansexual identity issues in kindergarten.
CLAY: (laughing) Yeah.
BUCK: That is what the Democrat Party has turned into, and we all know it; we all see it.
CLAY: And the Democrat Party has turned into “you can’t make that joke,” which is why I’ve been arguing, “Hey, some of the people on the front lines here from a creative industry, there needs to be a rebellion against Hollywood and the culture that has been created there,” because if you can’t make jokes about transgender issues like Dave Chappelle is being attacked for over the past couple of years, what is the world that we’re creating where if anyone is offended you can’t say it? I just fundamentally repudiate that. The idea that Republicans would be defending free speech is I think one of the paramount definers of this party today.
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