CLAY: Trump was on, I believe, with Sean Hannity, right? I believe this is where this cut is from.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: And we had him on, what, back in June, I guess, and he wouldn’t really answer the 2024 question. I’m sure they shared that Rasmussen poll results with him. But Trump was asked whether he was willing to say whether he would run for president, and he gave a very Trumpian answer. Play cut 16.

PRESIDENT TRUMP: So, because the campaign finance laws are extremely complicated and unbelievably stupid, I’m actually not allowed to answer that question. Can you believe it?

HANNITY: (chuckling)

PRESIDENT TRUMP: I’d love to answer it. But let me put it this way. I think you’ll be happy, and I think a lot of our friends will be very happy, but I’m not actually allowed to answer it. It makes it very difficult if I do. So people, you’re gonna be happy, ’cause I love this country and I hate to see what’s happening.

BUCK: I gotta say, he is, first of all, as we all know, one of the greatest showmen on earth.

CLAY: No doubt.

BUCK: He just understands how to get the focus of the people. And beyond that, he’s gotta see what’s going on with Joe Biden and the very real buyer’s remorse — or voters’ remorse, I guess you could say, that’s out there right now. If Trump feels like he’s running against a Biden that the American people have seen enough of to know what’s really going on — essentially if he believes that enough in the center — we know there are crazy libs that hate Trump more than any person in history, right?

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: But if he believes there are enough people in the center who are coming back to reality on here — and we’re not in a covid year, which you and I talked about so many times and the margins of victory being very small; we’ve discussed this a million times. But Trump’s in, I think. And that’s just gonna be amazing in so many ways. It’s gonna be fantastic.

CLAY: Well, I think what’s also interesting about this is, are they gonna Weekend at Bernie’s 2 Joe Biden? Are they gonna try to run him again at 82 years old?

BUCK: They can’t do Kamala, but they can’t put Kamala aside.

CLAY: That’s where I’m going to. If Kamala’s not the nominee and Biden can’t run — ’cause, look, there’s no way they can drag Biden across the finish line again.

BUCK: I dunno, Clay. Come on. They did it the first time.

CLAY: Yeah, but they had covid then I don’t think they’re gonna be able to use innovated ’24 although who knows maybe the Chinese will leak another thing out of the lab.

BUCK: I don’t think they can do it and win but I think they’ll try.

CLAY: But if they don’t… Kamala Harris, it’s racist and sexist if she’s not the choice. The point here is the Democrats don’t have a very good bench, whereas you can look right now at Republicans and you can say DeSantis; Tim Scott; Mike Pompeo; Trump himself, obviously; Kristi Noem; there’s some people Nikki Haley. Like, there’s a whole roster, I think, of Republican candidates that is far better than anybody out there for the Democrats.

BUCK: I’m just still trying to process. It’s a little…. The idea that you would even suggest that Kamala Harris wouldn’t be the nominee. That just feels racist and sexist to me, Clay.

CLAY: It’s racist and sexist.

BUCK: Just even bringing this up.

CLAY: I know, that’s the world we live in.

BUCK: Media Matters is gonna be all over you just for bringing this one up.

CLAY: Racist.

BUCK: Travis!

CLAY: It’s in the headline whenever I say it: Racist, sexist, Clay Travis.

BUCK: It goes in there racist-sexist pile.

CLAY: I’ll argue they have to put Kamala Harris — who, by the way, nobody’s heard of in over almost a week with this Afghanistan mess.