BUCK: I’m seeing this today about Tom Brady, and there was like this big countdown to whether he’s retired or not. Wasn’t he already retired? Wasn’t it like the Michael Jordan thing where he retired and came back?

CLAY: No.

BUCK: No? I don’t even know. Whatever. Neither here nor there. Fine. Point is, yeah, like, I know these things. But people are saying he is the G.O.A.T. Clay, is Tom Brady — in football — the Greatest Of All Time?

CLAY: Yes, indisputably. He is the greatest quarterback of all time. Seven championships, seven Super Bowls, been to 10. He did six with the New England Patriots and then one sort of a ride off into the sunset last year with the Bucs. It’s an incredible accomplishment. I think, Buck, Tom Brady is the greatest team-sport athlete in American history. That is, I do not believe — and maybe American history is too broad. In modern American history, right — going back to let’s say the 1960s, seventies, those eras — I think Tom Brady is the single greatest team sport athlete we have ever seen.