CLAY: Welcome back to the Clay Travis, Buck Sexton show. Hope all of you are having a great Monday, beginning of the  holiday week. I know a lot of you will be traveling. Maybe you already have started your travels Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, to be with friends and family for the holiday. Encourage you to download the podcast. You can search out my name, Clay Travis. You can search out Buck Sexton, help us set an all-time record in November for the number of podcast downloads for this show. We appreciate all of you diving in and supporting us there.

Tonight on Tucker Carlson we will hear from Kyle Rittenhouse a full sit-down interview explaining much of his thoughts that you haven’t already heard from his testimony during the trial. And here is a cut that they have released from that interview with Tucker Carlson. Let’s play cut 2. Of course, Kyle Rittenhouse immediately argued by massive amounts of the media, oh, this is a white supremacist, this is a racist act. Tucker asked him directly about his affiliation with the idea of white supremacy. Here was Kyle Rittenhouse’s answer.

RITTENHOUSE: I tell everybody there what happened. I said, I had to do it. I was just attacked. I was dizzy. I was vomiting. I couldn’t breathe. This case has nothing to do with race. It never had anything to do with race. It had to do with the right to self-defense. I’m not a racist person. I remember the BLM movement. I support peacefully demonstrating. And I believe there needs to be change. I believe there’s a lot of prosecutorial misconduct not just in my case but in other cases. And it’s just amazing to see how much a prosecutor can take advantage of somebody.

Kyle Rittenhouse: “This case has nothing to do with race.”

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— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) November 22, 2021

BUCK: They were trying to feed Kyle to the mob, Clay. That’s what this was really about from the beginning. You remember I said almost a month ago now on this show they never should have even brought charges. You agreed. They never should have even brought charges against Kyle Rittenhouse. Chris Christie, for whatever that’s worth, he was a federal prosecutor — I know people have very intense views on Chris Christie one way or the other. He said over the weekend they never should have even charged this individual based on the facts, based on they had video which I also believe very strongly if there was no video he may very well have been found guilty, not because he did anything wrong but because the narrative was so powerful and people were so set in believing certain things that absent video it might have been hard to convince that jury otherwise. But, I mean, let’s just — let’s look at this a little bit cause they’re still saying he’s a white supremacist, you played a clip in the first hour, they’re still claiming this about him.

Would Kyle Rittenhouse have gone to Kenosha if it had been an Antifa, you know, radical anarchist burning down of Kenosha that was going on that had nothing to do with BLM? I believe the answer is very clearly “yes.” He wanted to stop a community from being — that was his rationale for it because the only place where they claim now obviously shooting three white guys it’s hard to make — a white guy shooting three white guys is hard to make the claim that’s racist. They do it but no intelligent person believes this so then it’s the motivation for being, right? It went from cardio he crossed state lines. A lot of people freaked out about that I crossed state lines into Connecticut and New Jersey on a regular basis. Not a big deal.

Now the whole thing is, well, his motivation for being in Kenosha was somehow racist because of the connection to the Blake incident and Jacob Blake and BLM more broadly in the background of all this. I just think that also has — that’s not — if you listen to Rittenhouse he says he’s supportive of BLM as a movement. And even beyond that this is a kid who wanted to stop a neighborhood from being destroyed or stop a city from being destroyed and I think from what we’ve seen of him there’s every reason to believe he would have wanted to do that regardless of what the background left-wing or any wing political narrative was. He just didn’t want to see a town burn.

CLAY: The Buck, story here, we hit on this early, the people who are angry at Kyle Rittenhouse are anger because he was there in the first place. That’s their story, because they keep saying inaccurately he crossed state lines with a gun. He didn’t do that. The gun was in Wisconsin. And if you look, the amount of Blue Checkmark Brigade members out there that can’t even bother to get basic facts correct in their takes is evidence of how little they pay attention to the real facts and how much they embrace the narrative version of the facts because, look. I’ve said before, you’ve said this, I wouldn’t want my 17-year-old son to have been there, period. I wouldn’t have wanted protesting for BLM.

I wouldn’t have wanted him trying to protect small businesses because it was a chaotic, messy, ugly situation. But that’s not the case. The case is did Kyle Rittenhouse on that night fear for his safety, potentially his life and exercise self-defense as a result? The answer is yes. The case is not about why he was there. The case is about wince he was there did he have a self-defense, and he did.

BUCK: And why are all these rioters there? I mean, built into all of this is an expectation on the left that there was something righteous behind the destruction of.

CLAY: Correct.

BUCK: — Kenosha on behalf of BLM, like they’re somehow okay, they’re allowed to burn things down and terrorize people and break a senior citizen’s jaw because he didn’t want his store to get burned to the ground, they did that, right? Didn’t hear a lot of reporting about it, but those are the kind of things that are going on. But people were angry, and the left, as we know, in June of 2020, was having a giant temper tantrum, in the middle of a pandemic, mind you, because of Trump, because of BLM, they were just having this spasm of rage unleashed onto American cities across the country, and they ultimately believed that there’s something righteous in that. Of course, you and I reject that, this audience rejects that, that’s insane, but as to the point about Rittenhouse and whether, him being there, as a question of, it’s not a question of honor. It’s a question of the wisdom and safety of being there, in my opinion, meaning —

CLAY: This is why I’m thinking of a parent perspective.

BUCK: Right. I respect why Kyle Rittenhouse wanted to be there and what he was doing. And I think it was brave to be there and do what he did. I, though, would be very cautious in counseling somebody who was thinking about doing that because, let’s just remember, Kyle does what he did. There’s no video, there just happened to be no video that shows the incident that young man probably goes to prison for the rest of his life or at least for a few decades which is pretty close to the same thing.

So that’s what, I mean. You cannot trust the system. You can’t trust the district attorney this guy Chisholm out of Milwaukee, you can’t trust these people in the state, I’m not even talking about the rioters, you can’t trust the state to do the right thing. They essentially abandoned Kenosha to this, it was like a sacrifice to the rage of the left. They should have had National Guard out there tear gassing and arresting and taking care of care of business. Oh, no, not in Kenosha.

CLAY: They did it all over the country. They abandoned any sort of law and order and that’s why my point is regardless of what your political leanings were as a parent, I don’t want my kids out protesting. I don’t want my kids out responding to the protesters. I don’t think it’s safe, period, because the state abrogated its responsibility to protect business, to protect citizens and to protect the city, and that is the fundamental failure, that void of leadership is what we had enter. I just want to mention this, too, Buck. There still to my knowledge has been no suggestion that the Blake story had anything to do with race. There’s nothing to suggest that Rittenhouse had anything to do with race.

There’s nothing to suggest that George Floyd and Chauvin had anything to do with race other than the fact that their identities are their races, there hasn’t been any suggestion that all of these stories that divided and destroyed us in the summer of 2020 were directly related to race. To my knowledge, there’s zero tangible evidence of that. That is narrative one more time over fact.