Stewart vs. Sullivan on White Supremacy

BUCK: Jon Stewart has been a propagandist for the left for a very long time. I mean, he is a huge lib, and really kind of created an art form or built this art form of comedy, political commentary as a form of propaganda where you don’t have to really answer for what you say, ’cause, “Ha-ha-ha, man! I’m just makin’ jokes. It’s puppets on this show before I come on the air,” ’cause he had the Crank Yankers show, whatever. That’s the way that he was doing things for a long time, and now he’s kind of back, I guess, with an Apple TV+ show. Did you see some of this, Clay, the Apple TV+ show?

CLAY: Yeah, I saw the clips. I don’t know how to… It’s getting to the point now, Buck, where I really feel like an old man. I can’t sometimes find shows anymore, right? Like, I’ve got… I feel like we’ve got every different service we’re signed up for, but there’s so many different places, I can’t even find things. So I don’t even know how to find the Jon Stewart show, but I’ve seen the clips.

BUCK: Here’s what he says about… Well, you know, there’s a whole “the problem with white people is…” Of course, Jon Stewart’s white.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: But the problem — which plenty of white liberals love to do this whole, “I’m fighting against white supremacy” thing. It’s virtual signaling. It’s pathetic. It’s what they do. But here you go. Jon Stewart showing how wokeness doesn’t even really make sense — and after you’re a multimillionaire benefiting from the system, tens of millions of dollars paid to be a Democrat shill — you go on this show now and say the following. Play clip 9.

BUCK: By the way, Andrew Sullivan, of course, I think is speaking sense here. This whole… This obsession with talking about how white supremacist America is today, it never actually sustains itself as an argument when it’s subjected to any criticism, and then you do what Jon Stewart does. You start cursing and (angrily), “Oh, you just don’t… You just don’t want to have a conversation! You don’t want to have a conversation about racism.”

CLAY: The number one response that I would have for anybody out there that finds themselves in these conversations, like Jon Stewart, you know, where there is a white liberal that wants to tell you that America is an awful place and rooted in white supremacy. Just say what is true: America does not have a perfect history. No person or entity has a perfect history, right?

Let’s be clear. But if America was a fundamentally white supremacist nation today, how do Asian men make more money than anybody else in the country? This would be a huge failure of white supremacy, right, that we would allow Asian minorities — men — to arrive in this country and earn more than anyone else, any other ethnic group, which is true.

And there isn’t a response. Right? They don’t have a response, because that is tangible evidence of the fact that America is not a white supremacist country because Asian people — Asian men in particular, in this modern era — are more successful economically than any group of people in America. How does that happen?

BUCK: Clay, Nigerian immigrants to America make more per capita than white Americans baron in this country, Nigerian immigrants.

CLAY: Yes. Yes. It’s a great question.

BUCK: So again, a fascinating failure of the white supremacist system that we’re all supposed to be living in all the time. But this has become really a religious obsession for the left. I mean, this is their worldview, is that we are all soaked in this country, in this constant white supremacy, and it’s something we’re gonna have to continue to dissect and pull apart and address because, well, what is the alternative? We’re all supposed to sit here and you’re supposed to apologize? Apologize to whom and for what? What is really the answer?

CLAY: The alternative is what they’re trying to create — I really believe this — is a system whereby you destroy the entire foundation of America. The Constitution is not legitimate, because there were white supremacists; there were slave owners who wrote it.

BUCK: Yep.

CLAY: The Declaration of Independence. All of it, the foundational documents of our country are, in their view, so stained by historical neglect and error as it pertains to race, that they shouldn’t exist anymore. They want to destroy the foundation of this country.

BUCK: Mmm.

CLAY: I really do believe that’s the essence of what they’re attempting.

BUCK: And we want to defend the foundation, the greatness of this country and save the countries as much as possible —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — and all of you listening are helping us.