CLAY: Neglected to mention, Buck, happy Taco Tuesday to Jill Biden! It would be really funny if she just… Remember when Trump tweeted out the picture of him, like, on, was it Cinco de Mayo?

BUCK: With the taco bowl from Trump Tower?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Sure.

CLAY: Which was, I thought really funny showing that he had a sense of humor. She won’t do it because people will lose their minds.

BUCK: Just on a culinary note, Clay, I’ve never understood… I just feel like the soft taco is always better than the hard shell taco, but there’s some people out there who are big hard shell taco fans.

CLAY: Do you eat Taco Bell?

BUCK: I can’t —

CLAY: When was the last time you had Taco Bell?

BUCK. Oh, my God.

CLAY: Have you ever had Taco Bell?

BUCK: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I was a kid doing road trips with my family, used to get Taco Bell all the time. ‘Cause of the gluten thing, man, I’m a bad person to ask. I can’t have it.

CLAY: My boys are obsessed with Taco Bell. Like, if you told them right now if I went downstairs, they’re obviously home for the summer right now — and I said we can go to any fast food restaurant in the city, they would go Taco Bell in a heartbeat. And the reason you bring up the soft taco versus the hard taco, I’m a hard taco guy.

BUCK: You’re a hard taco guy.

CLAY: I like the hard taco —

BUCK: I had a feeling. Sometimes you go off the rails, Clay.

CLAY: So, it’s frustrating sometimes with the hard taco the way it crumbles. But — but I like it better ’cause the soft taco a lot of times gets soggy with the meat in it and everything else, and I don’t like the soggy taco.

BUCK: NYC team here is agreeing with you, by the way. They’re hard taco people too. I don’t know what’s going on. I got all my soft taco people out there saying, Buck, you know what’s right.

CLAY: I do. And let me give a shout-out to Taco Bell. They brought back the Mexican pizza. That was my go-to. And then they — then they canceled the Mexican pizza from their menu. The Mexican pizza is just fantastic. So, I’m glad they’ve got those back. But it would be really funny since it’s Taco Tuesday if Jill Biden kind of made fun of herself and was like, hey, excited to celebrate Taco Tuesday. Instead, she’s apologized to the Hispanic journalist community, has criticized her, and she just looks so incredibly incompetent. Don’t you think it would be funny if she posted a photo and she was like, hey, nobody’s perfect, but I’ve always loved Taco Tuesdays? I actually think —

BUCK: If she made — if this administration was smart, I think they would try to make a joke off out of it. Showing a little bit of humility and —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — just a little bit of —

CLAY: Humor.

BUCK: — like, normalcy would be a great thing in general, I think, for this White House. ‘Cause, you know, they always — they act like Trump was always so horrible. Trump, there was funny stuff going on all the time. It was actually amusing a lot of the time. Trump would laugh about things and, you know, there was the Jimmy Fallon tousling up the hair thing. But, no, they take themselves very seriously in this White House, even though everyone else thinks they’re a joke.

CLAY: That’s true. And I do think humor would register in a real way. Who was the last president that could do something that made you laugh? Obama actually was pretty good at delivering a joke. I thought Clinton was pretty good. George W. Bush I think had a pretty good sense of humor. But it feels to me — and I thought Trump at times leaned into sort of mocking the caricatures that existed around him. But I don’t feel like Biden has been able to at all. And I think that’s one of the big issues that he has, among many others. He’s just not a very likable person.