BUCK: There are a number of political issues where the Democrats are running for cover. Now that more people know what’s going on, now that they understand the reality of some of these positions, they can’t really make the case, not in a midterm election year. They can’t get away with just appeasing and doing whatever the woke left says. They have to explain some things to the American people.

I think one of the areas that is surprising to many of the Biden regime so far is that almost 80-year-old Joe Biden is somehow now a woke warrior for the trans child agenda or for trans children. I don’t think anybody saw that. I don’t think they had that on the bingo card, so to speak. I don’t think they were expecting this one. And here you have the White House being asked about this, because this is now a reality.

It used to be, Clay, when we would have these debates, “Hey, if we’re really gonna use different gender pronouns, how long until you have males in women’s prisons and women competing against men in sports and all these things? How long before…?” and they said, “Oh, you’re just fearmongering.” We can go back and play you all those clips. You can go find it all over the place, editorials, five years ago, 10 years ago.

And now it’s, “Shut up, bigot! That’s not a man. It’s a six-foot three woman who happened to have male genitalia swimming that in that pool.” Okay. Okay. That’s an interesting position for them to take, and the White House — and this is what I mean by they’re on defense now, because people have seen quite clearly the reality of this left-wing agenda and the policies it creates.

Here is the White House, here is Jen Psaki being asked by, of course, Peter Doocy about what the White House’s feelings are right now on women competing against women in sports.

Peter Doocy: “In some places like the Ivy League now, there are biological males competing against women. Does the White House think that is fair?”

Jen Psaki: “Well I would note that we’re not the governing body for the NCAA or any other system out there.” pic.twitter.com/sCeTcRdce4

— The Hill (@thehill) April 5, 2022

BUCK: Blather. Blather and misdirection. Clay, the question was to the White House: Should men compete in women’s sports? This White House is too cowardly — or perhaps too savvy, ’cause they know how the American people feel — to answer.

CLAY: Well, credit to Peter Doocy for asking the question. Joe Biden needs to be asked this question directly himself because to your point, Buck, he’s 79 years old. There is no way on earth that Joe Biden — who I believe is a sports fan, based on past statements.

BUCK: You think he’s giving some clicks on OutKick when no one is looking?

CLAY: I think he may have been on out… Well, I don’t know he knows how to use the internet. But if he knows how to use the internet, then he might have been on OutKick. I think he’s a big Eagles fan, historically, played sports growing up. So there is a zero percent chance, Buck, that 79-year-old Joe Biden believes that a biological man should be kicking women’s the asses in the swimming pool.

And also, the Democratic base does not believe this, either, right? There’s about 10 or 20% of Democrats that do, and everybody’s kowtowing to that group. But do you think black, Hispanic, Asian men in particular who are overwhelmingly sports fans…? Do you think they want their daughters and granddaughters competing against men? No way.

So this is a dodge. And it’s a dodge, Buck, because Democrats can’t figure out how to balance this pyramid of victimization, because women are a huge percentage of the Democratic base now. Overwhelmingly the Democrats are made up of women, and the transgender community is overwhelmingly a base for the Democratic Party. You have to make a choice.

You’re either in favor of transgender rights being so “inclusive” that there is no difference between men and women, or you support women’s sports. You can’t have it both ways, and I think the overwhelming majority of Americans support women’s sports. They believe women should compete against women and men should compete against men. And the Democrats are afraid to say that because it attacks their base, and they know that they’re on the wrong side of this issue.

BUCK: If there were more than a handful of actual — I was gonna say “actual journalists” — just people that want to get real answers from this White House, there would be follow-ups. She didn’t answer the question. It’s a very straightforward question. The White House factors in on Title IX issues all the time.

CLAY: All the time.

BUCK: The White House factors in on or will weigh in on any number of cultural and political issues. To pretend that they don’t have a position on this is cowardice. But they know that if they make it too obvious… The Democrats are always hiding what they really believe to fool, unfortunately, 10% of the middle of the country metaphorically speaking, politically speaking into voting for them.

And so this is why they won’t answer the question which is why we have to keep pushing and keep asking because, Clay, their only choices are betray women’s sports or betray the left wing, lunatic base. There is no third option.

CLAY: That’s right. That’s right. And they’re refusing to pick a side.