NYT, Without Evidence, Says Buck Spreads Misinformation

BUCK: We’ve been talking today about when the narrative collapses and dishonesty in the media, which is not really something that is aberrant, but it happens all the time. They’re lying to you constantly. There’s just the biggest outlets are pushing left-wing Democrat propaganda on a regular basis. They lie about Trump. They lie about Smollett. They lie about the…

Think of a big story recently. They lie about a lot of aspects of covid. They lied about the New York Post not being able to publish the Hunter Biden story. This is the mainstream media and also social media platforms, blocking the Hunter Biden laptop story right before the election. They just lie about stuff constantly. I want to take you to a quick version of the anatomy of a mainstream media or corporate media smear, and it has to with this piece in the New York Times.

“On Podcasts and Radio, Misleading Covid-19 Talk Goes Unchecked,” and they cite some guy I’ve never had of before who says that the vaccine is, quote, “like an egg that hatches into a synthetic parasite and grows inside your body. This is like a sci-fi nightmare, and it’s happening in front of us.” This is a sci-fi nightmare.

He’s an anti-vaxxer and you’re reading this and you never heard of any of these people. You go down the piece a little bit this is in the New York Times and all of a sudden there’s a photo of me! I’m like, “Wait a second. What am I doing in here?” and this is what they write. “Buck Sexton, the host of a program syndicated by Premiere Networks, an iHeart subsidiary, recently floated the theory that mass Covid-19 vaccinations could speed the virus’s mutation into more dangerous strains. He made this suggestion while appearing on another Premiere Networks program, The Jesse Kelly Show.

“The theory appears to have its roots in a 2015 paper about vaccines for a chicken ailment called Marek’s disease. Its author, Andrew Read, a professor of biology and entomology at Penn State University, has said his research has been ‘misinterpreted’ by anti-vaccine activists.” Okay, Clay, I got a few things here. I know this has happened to you; it’s happened to me.

This is the nature of our business. First of all, why am I even included in this piece? Like, what is it…? They don’t quote anything that I said. I actually said the same things on this show, too, which I find so interesting, but they went into Jesse Kelly. I talked about Marek’s disease which was a theoretical explanation for why perhaps some of the massive increase in covid that was happening over the summer was occurring, among several theories. Joe Rogan talked about the exact same thing on his show. I was merely explaining to the audience — and this came to me from epidemiologists, from doctors.

CLAY: We’ve had doctors on the show talk about this.

BUCK: Yes. As a theory. No one was saying “This ‘is.’ This is what’s happening right now! Be terrified.” But it was this is a possibility to look at, among several possibilities. It turns out as we played the Fauci audio for everyone before, the real answer, based on what we’ve seen… They didn’t quote me and they didn’t cite that the Marek’s disease discussion was from almost three months ago.

They left that out, too, because it’s a hit piece and they’re discussing grotesque… Oh, who was behind this? It was Tiffany Hsu and Marc Tracy of the New York Times. Cowards. Also, they never asked me for any comment. What, they send me a Facebook message? I get 500 Facebook messages a day. I don’t know where it was. They didn’t reach me.

But anyway, Clay, this is a situation where I look at this and I say, “What really happened?” The vaccine stopped working, which Fauci had to admit. So, okay, it wasn’t Marek’s but what about the fact that Fauci and all the rest of them were insistent for months that the vaccines were great, amazing, super effective, gonna protect you, don’t worry about it? There were massively wrong.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: But I’m the problem. I never said it was Marek’s. I said at the beginning of the show, this is something people have talked about as a possibility, and the New York Times does a hit piece ’cause they’re scumbags.

CLAY: What we have done consistently on the show is share factual data and then discuss what might be causing that factual data, which is what science is designed to do. The result occurs, and then you come up with a hypothesis or a theory — if there’s more evidence to support it — as to why that is occurring. So what we started saying back in June and July when almost no one was talking about it…

Everybody was talking about how this is gonna be the greatest summer ever! Everybody’s out partying! We were looking at the data and saying, “Wait.” These immediate declines that we had seen as the seasonality does appear to be, by the way, pretty significant with covid as it is with many other winter viruses, that there had been an explanation for what was going on.

And the waning effectiveness of the vaccine seems to be an agreed-upon explanation now. Maybe there’s some other explanation that people are gonna think of in six months from now, but I think it’s… The whole article — ’cause I sent it to you as soon as I saw it. It was right after we went off the air, I think on Friday, that this thing popped. The whole article seemed to me very strange.

And, first of all, we talk as honest as we can for three hours every day. There are inevitably things that some people are gonna disagree with about what we say, and the fact that they didn’t even quote you is strange. The fact that they didn’t quote you on your own show is strange. The fact that they just buried you halfway through…

I clicked on the link because I was like, “Oh,” I didn’t know you were involved in it as well. I was like, “Oh, I wonder who they’re going after here.” The guy that they led the story with I had never heard of, and obviously his opinions are those that we have not shared on this show or remotely close to it.

BUCK: Can I just…? The person that they’re like putting me next to in this New York Times piece, the quote — ’cause they actually quote him and he’s someone I’ve never heard of in my life and, you know, whatever — is that the vaccine is a “global coup d’état by the most evil cabal of people in the history of mankind.” That’s the quote they have. Am I…? What?

CLAY: I expected… We talked about this off the air. I don’t know if we talked about it on the air or not. I examined when you and I took over — ’cause I jotted down as you were talking, I’ve gotten full length articles attacking me in The Daily Beast, Politico, the Washington Post, Bulwark – I think that’s like the Lincoln Project guys.

BUCK: They’re fake Republicans, yes.

CLAY: Yeah. So four full-length, 3,000-word pieces on, “Clay Travis is an imbecile, is an idiot, I hate him, he’s an awful human being.” By the time we got to the most recent of those, the Washington Post, you know what I did, Buck? I recorded the entire interview with the Washington Post, recorded the entire thing, had one of our staff transcribe it, and they misquoted me — and they had to apologize for misquoting me.

And the thing that I say to everybody out there, you have to recognize that narrative trumps everything and if you’re going to do an interview with one of these people you either do it live — where everybody can hear it, everybody can see everything that you say — or you grab the entire thing on audio and be prepared to share the transcript, because they are going to lie to try to attack you and me and a lot of other people in our profession because they are upset with what we do and the fact that we won’t toe the line with left-wing media.

BUCK: These are media reporters at the New York Times. I just want to cite that for everybody as well. So, their job is actually just to search-and-destroy conservative and opposition voices in the media for the benefit of their paymasters at the New York Times. That’s what they actually do. They’re not science reporters. Not that that would mean that they’re honest brokers anyway. But these are people, this is all they do.

And I think it’s so interesting because the New York Times is officially the whole purpose, really, as I see it of the piece was to try to tie me in with these individuals to hurt the credibility of what we talk about here on this show, what I talk about on my show, podcast separately, because we’ve been right so often and now we have Fauci coming out there after us…

People can go to the transcript on this for months saying, “They’re gonna say boosters for everyone because these things don’t work very well,” and that’s exactly… We played the Fauci audio before. That’s exactly where we are. But notice Fauci never gets criticized for being massively wrong and he’s actually setting policy.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I talk about theories when there is a real open question but why we are having all-time record covid spikes in some states after a mass vaccination campaign and discuss multiple theories, and somehow that’s a problem? They were calling for corporate censorship. They’re trying to get pressure from the top down from any company. They’ll try to do it at News Corp. They’ll try to do it at iHeart.

They’ll try to do it anywhere to shut down people having honest discussions about this. I never even went back and talked about the Marek’s thing again, because I thought it was clear to everybody, “Oh, what we actually found out is the vaccines just don’t work that well. ” For anyone who doesn’t remember, Marek’s syndrome — it’s a longer discussion.

But they were vaccinating chickens, and the chickens actually were able to spread the virus very readily to other chickens and actually created more virulent strains, more dangerous strains of the virus through that process. That’s a real thing that happened. It’s science. And people were saying, “I hope that’s not happening with this very leaky covid vaccine,” because it is very leaky.

It’s not the MMR vaccine. So this is where the thinking was on it. What we really found out is, “No, it’s not that, it’s just the vaccines essentially stop giving you protection after about six months,” which is why we’ve been talking about that for weeks and weeks. But so what’s the purpose of this? Is it that the New York Times readers can sit home and wring their hands and go, “Oh, Fauci, when they say the mean things about him…

“That’s the bad man I read about in the New York Times who says the mean things about The Fauch and makes fun of him on the radio.” Fauci is scared to debate someone like me. He would get annihilated. I’d just sit here and go over all the things not only that he said that have been wrong, Clay, but what he won’t say, the things that he will not tell the public that he should have like masking outside is idiotic, right?

How long did it take him to even begin to say that? We’ve known that from the very beginning. Does nothing. Totally irrelevant. That children should have never been kept out of the schools, that masking children in schools — look at the Florida data — is an outrage. But the New York Times are a bunch of little bootlicking propagandists for the Democrat apparatus, and this is what they do. They have not a, “Oh, we’re in a moment of pandemic, this is above politics, let’s seek the truth at all costs for politics and everything else.” No, it’s, “My team has to win; so let’s do a dirty little smear job.” I love it. Bring it, commies.

CLAY: (laughing) I haven’t gotten October numbers yet, but we were the second biggest radio show in all of iHeart and a top five podcast across the entire iHeart network. Meaning combining podcast and radio, there may not be a bigger show in the country than what we’re doing right now. And the reason why this show is growing so rapidly is there are a lot of people out there that are… We talked with Dave Rubin at the top of the second hour about the number of people I think every day that are getting red pilled.

Happened with the Steele dossier, Buck. Happened with what’s going on right now in Kenosha with Kyle Rittenhouse. Happened with Russia collusion. Happened with Hunter Biden and the laptop story which basically has been confirmed by everybody. All of those things add up, and when you find one of them — and I know there’s people listening to us right now that they can go back like I can and point to one story that the media got completely wrong.

You’re starting to recognize how often it happens, and we see it because we get covered in the media sometimes and they get so many things fundamentally wrong about us. But the big picture stories — the ones that really matter, the ones that influence elections — they’re getting them wrong, you can argue, intentionally because they want their side to win. Twitter shutting down the New York Post over the Hunter Biden article one of the most egregious acts we’ve ever seen a company undertake in my lifetime to try to influence the election.

BUCK: Right before election.

CLAY: The same thing happened with the Steele dossier.

BUCK: For maximum impact.

CLAY: Yeah. If 21,000 voters changed their mind, then Donald Trump is president right now. Big Tech did everything they could — in a rigged job setting — to try and make sure that Trump did not win, and anybody who is willing to say something other than, “Orange man is evil, orange man is bad,” they’re coming after, because they want to shut us down, they want to shut down our audience. They don’t want us to have an ability to have real honest discussions about the choices our country’s making.

BUCK: For me, Clay, it’s even more than they get things wrong and they do it over and over again and they don’t care. These are places that no longer have any honor. They are dishonorable institutions — the New York Times, CNN — so it doesn’t matter to them. They view their purpose as something other than the truth, and so they are willing to use dishonorable means to achieve what they believe to be more honorable ends. But we will continue to fight them tooth and nail, I can assure you of that.