BUCK: We have this surrender of the suspect in this fatal shooting in New York City that occurred on the subway over the weekend. And I think we mentioned this news story on the show earlier in the week, but just to bring everybody up to speed on the situation, Goldman Sachs is a very well-known investment bank. This was a Goldman Sachs employee, Daniel Enriquez.

He was on a Manhattan-bound Q train last weekend. So he was down in the New York City subway, and he was murdered. He was murdered allegedly by Andrew Abdullah. And there was apparently video, it’s known, the guy just — Abdullah allegedly — walked up to him and just executed him. There was no… Not that there is ever a cause for an incident that involves such violence, but there wasn’t even, “Give me your wallet” or any kind of exchange.

He just murdered this guy. And was really shocking to everybody, obviously. And now we find out more about this individual, Abdullah, who has surrendered to police in New York City in Lower Manhattan. So the suspect has turned himself in as there was a citywide manhunt. The mayor of New York City had been speaking out about this the last couple days, ’cause he is failing miserably at his primary goal, primary mission of bringing down crime in the City of New York.

In fact, overall crime is considerably up under this mayor’s watch. And there was a really emotional — it was one of those things that’s tough to watch and listen to but important to watch and listen to — exchange between the sister of Daniel Enriquez who was murdered on the subway by Andrew Abdullah, allegedly. The sister went to Fox News, was speaking to Dana Perino, and she talked about what her family has been through, what this is like right now.

Obviously this is a tragedy, this horror that has happened to them and just how the city, this is now becoming far too common, far too much a part of day-to-day life. And this true in New York, true in Chicago, it’s true in so many cities across America right now. But here she was. The sister of slain Daniel Enriquez was on Dana Perino’s show and here’s how some of that conversation went.

BUCK: This is Griselda Vile, the sister, Clay, of Daniel Enriquez, who was slain over the weekend, discussing here a previous incident where she went to police because there was a shooting in her neighborhood and the cops — this was just a year ago and the cops — are saying, “Yeah, he’s already out.” This guy, Andrew Abdullah, who allegedly now murdered Daniel Enriquez on the subway, was arrested 19 times, of course.

At what point is it just too obvious that “defund the police” and “criminal justice reform” and all this stuff is a recipe for more murders, more rapes, more anarchy and madness on the streets? At what point do people realize that the left has completly and utterly harmed city after city across the country?

CLAY: As you well know, Buck, if you’ve been arrested 19 times, you’ve probably done things worthy of arrest hundreds of times, because most people don’t get caught the first time that they do something illegal. So you have got a criminal element that knows there are no consequences for their acts, and probably if you look at what this guy has done, I’m gonna bet, Buck — and I haven’t look at his rap sheet yet ’cause they just brought him in.

But if you’re walking up and shooting a completely innocent guy who had no interaction with you at all and murdering him, this isn’t the first time that you’ve engaged in violent acts, right? Like, the first time most people engage in violent acts who are criminals, they don’t walk up and just shoot somebody, and so there is an undisguised failure all over America, and cases like these — which are on video; you can watch it — epitomize what is the larger killing field that we have created in our cities.

And by “we have created” I mean Democrats have created with their soft-on-crime policies. Remember when Jen Psaki, before she left, was talking about the way different networks were covering news and she was like, “Soft on crime? What does soft on crime even mean!” It means you arrest somebody 19 times and then he walks up and murders somebody, Jen Psaki.

That’s what soft on crime looks like. People know what soft on crime feels like because it makes their communities not safe. And, Buck, it’s a tiny minority of people in these cities that is creating this tailspin. And if you don’t allow police to monitor them and to police them aggressively — and, yes, that can mean stop-and-frisk sometimes — then in the city of New York and other places, things spiral out of control. I was reading…

We’re almost at the two-year — I think tomorrow is the two-year — anniversary of George Floyd’s murder, if I’m not mistaken. Minneapolis is an unmitigated disaster in the wake of George Floyd, not because of George Floyd, because of the response to George Floyd. The police officers deserve to be held accountable for their actions in Minneapolis. But we didn’t need to make every police officer in the entire United States into a villain. That’s what we did. We took Cops off television, Buck, because (laughs) it was too favorable of a treatment for police officers.

BUCK: They burned a police station to the ground!

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Not in Fallujah, in Minneapolis, everybody.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You think about this for a second. They tried many times to burn a federal courthouse to the ground in Portland, Oregon, and the mayor of Portland — who is a world class moron — was basically like, “Hey, you know, these just people that are trying to speak out, Antifa,” and then you remember he actually went out amongst Antifa, and they all threw epithets and curses at him even after he had bent the knee, because these people are lunatics and they want to destroy and there’s not some conversation we need to have with Antifa about how they want society to be more just or fair.

They’re just lunatics. And, you know, on the issue of 19 arrests, think about what this means in the process for the district attorney’s office — and we could see the same thing about district attorneys office, I’m sure, in Milwaukee, in St. Louis, in New York, in Phoenix, in Seattle, it’s the same all over the place. By the way, I mentioned this. Florida, some of the major cities in Florida actually have not had the same kind of massive spike in violent crime.

I think that’s interesting. And I think it’s because at the state level Governor DeSantis has been backing up law enforcement all along and has refused to bend the knee to the woke madness. But pretty much cities everywhere else you can think of, 19 times. That means that there was a district attorney, Clay. One of my oldest friends here in New York City works for district attorney’s office here, and I always talk to him.

“You can’t say anything.” I’m like, “I just want to know what’s going on. I’m never gonna say anything.” Somebody looked at this individual who committed this murder when he was on arrest number 12, when he was on arrest number 15 and were saying, “You know, I don’t think we really want to go too far here. You know, maybe we’re gonna…” Now, depends obviously on what the offense is. But at some point, you’ve just gotta keep somebody off the streets because they’re a danger.

When they hit arrest number 16, I think it’s fair to say, “I don’t think we’re gonna wait and see how 17 goes. I think we’re gonna have to have you serve 10 years. I think we’re gonna have to have you serve so that you understand that you cannot be a threat to the general population anymore,” and this is what Democrats reject. They reject all this. They say the system is racist, they say the system is unjust — and somehow it becomes more just by punishing criminals, specifically violent criminals, less.

CLAY: Do you think there’s a single person listening to us right now, Buck, who’s been arrested 10 times?

BUCK: If there is, I want to hear the story.

CLAY: My point is, at some point — and I don’t know what number you want to make the number — you have to recognize that an individual is committed to lawlessness. And I don’t know. Look, I’m being really generous, I think, in saying, “Hey, let’s get to 10. You get to 10, double-digit arrests,” because, again, I think this is significant. It would mean that you are putting yourself in a position to be arrested, right, hundreds of times, meaning you are regularly committing violations and putting other people at risk.

And this is what happens. It’s no coincidence that as you go soft on crime, Jen Psaki, crime rates massively increase. This is what… Those of us who are old enough to remember it, Buck, this is what the early nineties were like. Before the Rudolph Giulianis of the world came in and said, “We’re gonna remake safety in American cities.”

This is what the late eighties and the early nineties were-like as we were dealing with rapidly spiraling and increasing crime rates, and then what did they do? They held criminals for accountable. I’ve been saying it for a while. It’s probably the only thing Joe Biden’s gotten right in his entire crier was the 1994 crime bill, which he ran against as a part of his campaign this year.

BUCK: Yeah, and he just did that because it was overwhelmingly popular at the time. It’s not like Joe Biden was taking a stand. I don’t think he deserves… It’s not like Biden was the voice in the wilderness saying, “We need to be tough on crime, Republicans.” It was the American people were saying, “This is crazy what’s going on, particularly in cities,” and finally Congress was like, “All right. I guess we gotta do something about this.”

CLAY: It’s one of the few things you can point to in Joe Biden’s career and be like, “Hey, he was on the right side of this issue,” and he ran against it! (laughs) He ran against the one thing that he’s gotten right, and now American cities have turned into killing fields, and he’s the one who is in power, and he’s the one who has to be responsible for it, which is what he argued he was going to be when he ran for president before all of a sudden you noticed how he said, ‘Adults are gonna be in charge! I won’t abdicate responsibility for what’s going on in the country.” Now it’s Putin’s fault. Every single issue that arises there’s somebody else to blame.

BUCK: It was a reality of New York in the nineties ’cause I lived here and I remember, I grew up here, and I think I told you, there were just things that you had to get used to here that we never should have gotten used to. If you went into Central Park at night and got robbed, mugged, it was, “What were you doing there?” The first question was, “Why would you be in Central Park at night? What were you thinking?”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: This is the fanciest park in the fanciest neighborhood of all New York City, and that’s why, when I told you about my visit to Chicago, and I’m trying to give Chicago a fair chance, and then someone is murdered at the main tourist park in the whole city while it’s still daylight outside with crowds everywhere? That’s a real signifier of how much things have been in decay. But, Clay, back in the nineties they would…

You know, I spent a lot of time with guys in the NYPD. We were doing surveillance, and a lot of those guys, they’d been on the job 20 years, 25 years, whatever. They would tell me stories about the old days, when I was a kid and they were starting out of whatever precinct in Bronx or in Brooklyn. Those were the two areas where they had the most crime. They would say that they would arrest a guy and he would have 90 arrests on his record.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And you sit here, you’re like, “How is the system…?” We’re talking about mass incarceration all the time and how it’s so awful, and we hear the story about the three-strikes law and somebody stole a pack of gum and he’s serving it 30 years in jail!” We hear about all that stuff when the libs want to push for criminal justice reform and then we’ve got people getting shot by individuals who’ve been arrested 20 times, 50 times. Old ladies being bludgeoned with hammers in the street by someone who’s been arrested, you know, 110 times. People are right to be outraged about this. New York, Houston, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Phoenix, go down the list.

CLAY: All of them skyrocketing.

BUCK: Everywhere. Everywhere. I mean, unfortunately Milwaukee’s had a really tough year of violence crime, so many cities across the country. So, anyway, it’s just… What happened on the… This guy, he’s the American success story. He’s a Latino American, he’s a family man, he’s on the subway, he’s going to brunch, it’s a beautiful Sunday in New York City.

He’s on a very well-trafficked train, and some criminal maniac who’s been arrested 19 times just goes and murders him, and people turn and they look at the city, and they say, “How can you allow this to happen?” You know, and Eric Adams is gonna give us another lecture on maybe if we change the permitting process for guns ’cause I think unfortunately Eric Adams is just not very smart and he’s much more interested in being a celebrity than being an effective politician for —

CLAY: He’s already talking about running for president in 2024. Did you see they leaked that?

BUCK: Yeah. Don’t worry. He’s gonna do a reality TV show instead.

CLAY: Why can nobody just be mayor of New York City? They all feel like they have to run for president.

BUCK: You think it’s kind of an important job. Maybe somebody, maybe some Democrat could do well. We haven’t had a good Democrat mayor in my lifetime. By the way, even Bloomberg was technically a Republican.

CLAY: Yeah, that’s right.