Manchin Under Pressure After Bernie Budget Blowout
22 Oct 2021
BIDEN: The highest tax rate is 35%, number one. K? Number two, youโre in a circumstance where corporate America is not paying their fair share, and I come from the corporate state of the world, Delaware. More corporations in Delaware than every other state in the union combined. K? And hereโs the deal, though. You have 55 corporations, for example, in the United States of America making over $40 billion (whispering) donโt pay a cent.
Not a single little red cent. Now, I donโt care, Iโm a capitalist. I hope you can be a millionaire or billionaire. Not a problem. But at least pay your fair share, chip in a little bit.
BUCK: Socialism slogan about the โpay your fair share,โ as if that has any real meaning. Welcome to Clay and Buck show. I would think somebody in the Biden comms shop in the White House would say, โStop doing the weird whisper, stop doing the weird whisper thing.โ But he thinks that that connects, I guess, or adds some umph to whatever it is heโs saying. Forty billion, he says, not a dime of taxes paid on that for 55 corporations. Remember, friends, first of all, theyโre talking about spending three and a half trillion dollars. So, even if you were to do a hundred percent taxation of the $40 billion from those 55 corporations, that will just pay for like a little bit of the AOC climate change package part of the spending bill if it goes through as the Democrats want it to.
That brings us to, well, and theyโre still saying it costs nothing which itโs just a lie. People, I would think more people to in this country would actually be offended by the brazenness and the stupidity of that lie. And maybe thatโs part of what is holding back some of these moderate Democrats who donโt want to go along with. It they recognize that the American people are saying, wait. What are they trying to sell us on? Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema at the center of all this, and Manchin under a lot of pressure, Sinema under a lot of pressure but Manchin reportedly earlier this week thinking about possibly still caucusing with Democrats but becoming an independent. That was at least said and seems plausible. Here he is speaking to this issue in some way.
MANCHIN: The only thing that was ever said, ever talked about, if Iโm an investor to my Democrat colleagues, my caucus, the president being the Democrat, he of the Democrat Party, Chuck Schumer and all them, and I said me being a moderate, centrist Democrat, if that causes you a problem, let me know and Iโd switch to be an independent, but Iโd still be caucusing with Democrats.
BUCK: So that was โ those are real โ
CLAY: That was the real thing.
BUCK: That was true. Remember when people said, oh, no, thatโs not true, as soon as it came out? No, it is true.
CLAY: And I think if you follow the logic there, I think Manchin, if heโs going to run in 2024, is not going to be able to able to run as a Democrat. I think the brand is so toxic in West Virginia, thereโs no way he could get reelected, particularly in 2024.
BUCK: Like, what does this mean for him for now? Does it mean he goes along, or does he hold the line?
CLAY: Well, you know, thereโs a good story that he and Bernie really got into it. So, and Bernie said, I want six trillion, and Manchin said, Iโm comfortable with zero. And, by the way, Buck, in the last 15 minutes or so the White House has said thereโs no word about any agreement coming today; so theyโre gonna continue to work through the weekend. And thatโs significant, Manchin saying, โIโm comfortable with zero.โ Remember, he wrote an editorial at the Wall Street Journal calling for a strategic pause meaning letโs not do anything letโs wait and see what happens with inflation letโs pus the infrastructure bill and then wait and see in terms of the budget what make sense.
Iโm increasingly wondering whether he may take this over into the new year. Now, that becomes difficult for Democrats because what are they gonna be able to run on in 2022? Because the idea of passing a budget with big tax increases in an election year I think gets tougher and tougher to justify, which makes me think itโs possible this whole thing just becomes unraveled. I mean, itโs possible.
BUCK: I mean, think about what that would mean for the Democratsโ prospects going into the midterms. If they donโt pass this thing theyโre essentially inviting, theyโre inviting a wipeout in the midterms, which means, letโs all understand, the Biden administration also basically gets nothing done for the last two years. Remember, itโs not like the agenda items will get through if you have Republicans take a big solid majority in the House in the midterms. All this stuff is a long ways away, and theyโre cagey authoritarians, and I understand thereโs a lot that theyโre gonna try to pull, but it is not looking good for them right now and thatโs why Bidenโs town hall last night weโve been pulling some of the sects from it just the key moment, heโs got disdain for the unvaccinated, doesnโt care about people being fired who are first responders, cops, firefighters, you name it, who donโt want to get the shot, doesnโt care about the fact that he hasnโt been to the border; says heโs too busy. Clay, this is not a guy who could look on his first year and say anything other than, next year better be better.
CLAY: Well, and a lot of these viral clips that are spreading on social media he freezes with his hands sort of in fists, like, whatโs going on there? He canโt remember the name of Long Beach. I mean, it was an ugly performance for Joe Biden beyond a shadow of a doubt, even with CNN basically propping him up with a laugh track.
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