CLAY: Buck, I saw these two studies. Shared by our buddies, Alex Berenson and Dr. Marty Makary, who comes on this show all the time. Because we’ve tried to be as honest with you guys as we possibly can. And I looked at them, and I said, it is going to become increasingly impossible, I believe, to defend these covid shots as they exist right now at all.

Dr. Makary texted this morning, Buck, “Immune function among vaccinated individuals, eight months after the administration of two doses of covid, the vaccine was lower than among the unvaccinated.” That is the European Medical Agency and direct quote, and he linked to this. So you can read it yourself.

“immune function among vaccinated individuals 8mo. after the administration of two doses of COVID vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated”.

According to European Med Agency, “frequent booster shots could adversely affect the immune response” https://t.co/NoVN4PdSi3

— Marty Makary MD, MPH (@MartyMakary) July 20, 2022

Johns Hopkins’ doctor, Dr. Marty Makary, quote, “Frequent booster shots could adversely affect the immune response.” What they’re telling you right now, is rush out and get your booster. What this study out of Europe is saying, is actually the opposite. The more booster shots you get, the more you could create issues.

And the other one I wanted to hit you with, Buck. It came out from Alex Berenson early this morning. I’m reading directly from Alex. You can go read this on Alex’s Substack. You can also go find him on Twitter, and see this yourself. “Wow. Wow. Wow.” This is Berenson ‘s tweet. “The German government just admitted 1 in 5,000 covid shots caused, quote, serious side effects.” He says, this is Alex Berenson. “That’s obviously low. But even if you take those numbers, that would translate into the covid shots, seriously injuring 110,000 people in the United States alone.”

1/ Wow. Wowowow. The German government just admitted that 1 in 5,000 Covid shots cause “serious side effects.” That’s obviously low – but even so it translates into 110,000 seriously injured people in the United States alone… pic.twitter.com/idm5ieJC0Q

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) July 20, 2022

CLAY: Buck, when you look at these studies, as they continue to come out, a media that was being honest in doing its job  would be saying, there are legitimate health concerns about the covid shots. And if you’re questioning whether the American public is becoming aware of it, what I would say is, this is why the data on 6-month-olds, Buck, to 5-year-old kids, getting their shots, 2% of those kids are getting those shots. Parents are overwhelmingly recognizing that the covid shot makes no sense. Those data points, I mean, this is pretty crazy.

BUCK: So there’s this concept in medicine. There’s so many things you’re not been allowed to speak about. I mean, one thing that people have noticed all along here, is somehow, we have all grown up in this era, where every time you see any pharmaceutical advertised on TV, it’s always like, couples dancing on the beach. There’s like a horse. A beautiful steed running in the background. And then there’s people, just like with sunshine on swings. And then it’s like, “May cause headaches, vomiting, diarrhea, your spleen may fall out,” you know, all this stuff. Right? And you go, oh.

CLAY: The side effects are never good. Maybe I don’t need that after all.

BUCK: You know, “May cause GI leakage” It’s like, that doesn’t sound good. So, you know, you have these things. These symptoms. And with the vaccines, it was shut up, they’re the safest things that have ever worked. They’re the safest things that were ever developed. We were to believe that these were essentially, and let’s hear, 15 months ago, they said, we’ll not get it, we’ll not spread it. That was the promise. That was the science. And there was no fact-checking for me to do on this. Other than to say, gosh, Buck, you and Clay are right. That is what happened.

Now, of course, we know that really isn’t true at all. But all along, they also said, this was a silver bullet against covid, with no downside. And if you talked about a downside, you were a bad person. In fact, you should get fired from your job. You should be banned from social media. You should be banned from social media, if you even discuss the possibility of side effects. So we were to believe. Again, I’m not a doctor, but I’m also not an idiot. You were supposed to believe, for the first time in our lives, there was a brand-new super effective pharmaceutical effectively. which in this case, it’s a vaccine. But it’s still a drug. A new technology, MRNA, that had no downside. None. And if you talked about downside, you were a bad person. They were lying to you. Okay?

Just so everybody understands — someone who says, there’s no downside — there were reports. There was a woman who got it. She was healthy. I think it was in Portland. And died. And said, yeah: She actually died from the shot. And, if you brought that up, you literally wanted millions of grandmas to die, because you were an anti-vax hoaxer. Right? This was the whole narrative, which, of course, has now, of course, changed dramatically, Clay.

And to your point about that. And there’s even, I’ve talked to Berenson about this before too. Because I’m always looking at what he’s analyzing the data with. Original antigenic sin. Have you heard about this one? This is interesting. Original antigenic sin, is when your immune system — and this is — I’m reading this off the National Library of Medicine, which is a dot.gov website. Just so everybody understands. This is not like crazy anti-vaxxer dot patriot dot 776. You know, this is — this is on the National Library of Medicine website.

And they’re talking about how original antigenetic sin is when — and this does exist in science. I’m not saying that this is what’s happening with the vaccines. But it is interesting when you think of this concept over the long run of what could be happening here. It’s when your body develops an immunological memory response. That could essentially wrong foot you, the second time you’re exposed to a variant. So you get flu strain A1, like the steak sauce, right? You get flu strain. If you’re going to go steak sauce, which I’m generally — I’m usually not a steak sauce guy. And people who put ketchup on their steak, it does make me want to cry on the inside. It’s one thing about Trump I could never understand.

CLAY: Well done steak, indefensible.

BUCK: So, but if you get an A1 variant, and your body can develop a response to the A1 variant, let’s say. And it hasn’t been established — oh, no, it has. I’m sorry. Influenza and dengue fever are two places where this existed.

It’s essentially, your body learns how to fight that version of it. But when it comes into contact with a secondary version, you may have a less robust or less fast immune response, because essentially your system goes, “Oh, I’ve kind of seen this. And starts to do what it does before, instead of saying, I’m going to respond specifically to this variant.” I’m not saying that it happens with covid. I’m saying it exists in science, in medicine. And some people are starting to say, can we discuss, we keep having more and more variants, more and more shots could be a thing to consider. I don’t know if there are any doctors out there, who want to weigh in on this. Have to be very careful on this. Still, they speak out about the shots, Clay, they come for you, man. They come for you.

CLAY: You’re 100 percent right. And, by the way, 800-282-2882, if any doctors want to weigh in on that. Those studies that we cited. You can go follow me on Twitter @ClayTravis. You can see where I’ve shared what Alex Berenson and Dr. Marty Makary were saying here about these recent data points that are coming out.

And what I would say is, we’re in the vast majority, Buck, because as someone who had young kids, if you really thought that your kids were in danger from covid. And also, that the covid shot would protect them, in a month, way more than 2 percent of the American public would have gotten their kids these shots. When 97, 98 percent of American parents are saying, no. I’m not touching this. What we are talking about, even though social media doesn’t like it. Even though the New York Times and the Washington Post and MSNBC and CNN won’t even mention it, is widely being discussed right now, among parents of children.

I hear it, I’ve seen it. And the data reflects that it’s going on everywhere. And it’s not just red parents. It’s not just blue parents. The data out in New York City. Very blue city. 2 percent of parents. This is something that all parents are discussing. And I would submit to you, Buck, if Trump were still president, the media that I just mentioned. MSNBC, CNN, the Washington Post, New York Times. They would be covering every bit of this covid shot story, with a fine-tooth comb.

BUCK: Democrats, though, Clay. I want to put this concept out there. Maybe we return to this. Do we have a doc or an epidemiologist who doesn’t have their pronouns and six Ukraine flags in their bio, who wants to weigh in on this? By the way, that’s a barrier to entry on the phone. If you’re an epidemiologist who double masks still and has five Ukraine flags and their pronouns in the bio, we don’t want to hear from you, but if you’re a normal epidemiologist out there, who just wants to talk about the science, curious about this original antigenic sin issue. This concept talked about in real medicine, in real publications.

But, Clay, I think that Democrats are herd animals. Or actually, more to the point, they’re lemmings. So right now, maybe they’re not all moving over to the edge of the cliff, by getting their kids the vaccine. But when the authority says you must get them, I think those little furry lemmings are going to run en masse, as soon as you have states that will mandate it for kids.