BUCK: What happens when the people that are supposed to enforce the law decide that the law is problematic for them? That social justice is more important than actual justice and that criminals should get away with things? Welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. We’ve seen for a long time now the rise in violent crime across the country. We’ve seen that murders, shootings have skyrocketed. I mean, one of the ones that is the most mind-blowing to me they’re way up in Houston, they’re way up in New York, they’re way up in every major, and all Democrat-controlled, major cities by population really in the country.

Portland had a thousand shootings over the last year, a thousand in a city that’s not that big by population, by far the most it’s ever had. One thing that we’re seeing is that when you undermine cops and when you put prosecutors in place who are supposed to be deterring crime and they decide that, well, that doesn’t seem like a social justice mission that they really want to take on bad things happen.

Case in point. And this is also if a moment where we’re looking at the incident involving Darrell Brooks here and we’re looking at this individual and we’re understanding that he was let out just two days after being arrested for a crime of trying to run over with his car the mother of his children. Meanwhile, you have people — you’ve got, you know, grannies who are waving a flag inside the capitol in solitary confinement for, you know, eight months on end because they’re such a danger to the public. And in the D.C. holding cells endlessly. And, Clay, over the weekend alone just the last few days you have what I think you have to call theft mobs because this is not one or two people, this is 10, 15, 20, perhaps 30 or more people at a time pulling up in cars, running into a high-end retail establishment, grabbing everything in sight, and running out with it.

They did this in San Francisco over the weekend, at Union Square, very famous, well known place the Louis Vuitton store there, they did this in Chicago at a Louis Vuitton store, over a hundred thousand dollars of merchandise stolen. Do you think any of the people caught, Clay, are gonna serve really severe sentences? Doubtful.

CLAY: Of course not, Buck. And actually one of our listeners sent me a video. He was staying in Union Square — for people who don’t know San Francisco well, historically, Buck, Union Square is like — I mean, there’s a Louis Vuitton there for God’s sakes. This is a super high end area. As we’ve been talking about in San Francisco about I believe it was Walgreens that has effectively said, hey, we’ve got so much thievery that is going on that they’re shutting down five Walgreens. And the impact here is substantial because those are jobs in lower income areas that are important to so many people in those communities and they’re basically saying, “Hey, we can’t run these stores anymore.”

But Union Square is the heart of San Francisco, a high-end shopping district and they’re just showing up and running roughshod through a Louis Vuitton with no expectation that there’s going to be any law enforcement at all and there are people, this is gonna be fascinating to watch because they’re trying to recall Chesa Boudain right now in San Francisco who has made all of this possible by effectively saying, “Hey, we’re not gonna do any sort of criminal enforcement anymore.

BUCK: The rule is if you steal less than $950 police won’t making an arrest. That’s the rule Clay by Chesa Boudin.

CLAY: It is madness, Buck, even in San Francisco, and this is why I know that things are changing substantially. I’ve got a lot of friends who live out in San Francisco. We don’t agree on a lot of political related issues. They’ve started listening to the show, Buck. You were talking about one of your buddies in New York City who’s not necessarily like a conservative radio listener, but they’re getting so fed up with quality of life related issues and with the sort of crazy propaganda media world that we live in where they start to get told things that they see with their own eyes are not true. There’s a demand for honest.

BUCK: I gotta tell you another group the same way that I have a friend who’s a corporate lawyer and life lot of Democrat who says he loves us for holding Fauci accountable a guy I’ve known a very long time in my life a huge fan of show I have prosecutors and I got — I mean, I’m the one that’s pointing out, for example, at Chisholm the district attorney in Milwaukee who let out Brooks the guy that just ran down, murdered all these people with his car, that’s the same district attorney, everybody, who ran the John Doe case against Scott Walker years ago. He abused the secret investigative tactic to try to go after the Walker campaign. I interviewed somebody that they were trying to throw in prison for seven years for crimes like using her cell phone inside instead of outside a building for campaign business. Chisholm is an absolutely political hatchet man, a Democrat left winger, of course, and he’s the guy in Milwaukee.

Chesa Boudin, these other guys I’m just pointing out Larry Krasner in Philadelphia, people that I know who are prosecutors reach out they’re like, thank you for trashing these awful prosecutors who undermine what it is we’re trying to do which is enforce the law and make everybody safer. No one is safer because prosecutors feel sanctimonious and self-righteous for letting criminals go. And that’s what major cities, including New York, including San Francisco, I’m sure it’s happening in Houston, too, that’s what’s going on.

CLAY: There’s no doubt. And, Buck, what this all represents is being concerned with overpunishing criminals is a luxury of low crime. Right? Cyclically, when people start to say, hey, maybe we’re putting people in jail for too long, it’s because the crime rate has gotten so low that it is a luxury to be concerned that you are overpunishing criminals. Back in the nineties and I think that’s where we’re headed all over again, three strikes and you’re out — remember Joe Biden helped to pass that? The reality is putting hardened criminals behind bars for a long time does work and it drives down, particularly in violent crime incidents, drives down the overall rate of crime in this country. Buck, everybody in walk who is looking at what just happened in Waukesha is saying, how in the world did this violent criminal have the ability to be on the streets and murder in cold blood at least five people, wound 40 people driving through a Christmas parade? We are failing at protecting our communities when that guy was allowed back on the streets for a small amount of bail. Total failure of the criminal justice system.