Clay and Buck sit down with Heritage Foundation President Kevin Roberts for a wide‑ranging conversation on the issues he believes will define the country’s political future. They discuss immigration, ICE, crime, the trans movement — as well as what Republicans need to do in the 2028 midterms and after 2030, which should be a better environment for conservatives because of migration from blue to red states.

Every American deserves law and order, not chaos, unrest, and criminal disorder. 🧵

First, it’s important to recognize that the dangerous and unprecedented situation we are in was caused not by the current administration or by federal law enforcement officers doing their job (as…

— Kevin Roberts (@KevinRobertsTX) January 27, 2026