BUCK: This is from BuzzFeed, breaking news reported here: “January 6 defendant Matthew Martin found” just now “not guilty of all four misdemeanor counts he faced. Judge McFadden found that Martin’s defense that U.S. Capitol Hill police officers allowed him to come into Capitol was plausible,” was real.

CLAY: That’s good.

BUCK: So here’s a guy who was charged, and he goes, “Look, Capitol Police waved me in to the Capitol,” and the judge is like, “Yeah, actually, that is what happened,” and, by the way, this guy did not commit any violence, did not attack anyone, ’cause we’re always led to believe that everybody who was there hit cops with bricks or sticks or whatever; you gotta get charged. But you wandered into a building the Capitol Police were saying, “Hey, come this way.” I don’t know. This guy’s walking a free man right now.

CLAY: Well, that’s good news for people who are willing to challenge it, right, Buck? Because there are a lot of people out there who have felt compelled from the full weight of the government coming down against them to go ahead and take a plea agreement of some sort. So, that is an interesting reaction and result for sure, and I would imagine whatever defense that defendant brought to bear will be examined by others who’ve been charged with crimes in a similar degree.