CLAY: Boris Johnson, who had a near political death experience in England and now seems like he is going to survive it, the prime minister there, recently flew to Ukraine and walked in the streets of Kiev with Zelensky. And that obviously received a great deal of attention.

Zelensky has in some way modeled himself on Winston Churchill; so the relationship between Boris Johnson and Zelensky has been quite positive I think for both guys.

But when I watched the footage of Boris Johnson walking around in Ukraine, it brought to mind the fact that the United States said it was not safe for Joe Biden to go to Ukraine. And given the 8.5% inflation right now, the Bidas Touch, which is basically leading to failure in every direction, is the Biden administration going to have to fly Joe all the way back across the Atlantic and go to Ukraine and have him visit Zelensky now that Boris Johnson has done it because it makes him look so weak?

He got within whatever it was, 15 or 20 miles, I believe, of the border, and they said, oh, no, no, no, no, it’s not safe enough for Biden to go there and then Boris Johnson — and, by the way, not the first European leader to have done this. Several other European leaders have also made the trip to Ukraine.

Is the United States gonna have to do this Biden now? Because when I saw it Italy, oh, well, go ahead and add a trip. He’s gonna go over at some point this spring or summer and actually visit Ukraine because it looks weak if he doesn’t now.

BUCK: Possible for the optics, to be sure, that they may do something like this. But I also think that, Clay, the U.K. is a player in the NATO and West — an important one, but a player in the NATO and Western alliance. America is supposed to be the leader. And anything that brings attention right now for the Biden administration to war in Ukraine for a lot of us I think is a reminder of the failure to prevent this war, to see this war coming.

Clay, on my TV show over at The First TV, we did a special in December on the coming war in Ukraine. Right? Now, we didn’t know for sure. You know, I’m not the commander-in-chief of national security apparatus. But we had a feeling it was coming. It’s amazing, it’s amazing to see how caught off guard and unprepared the Biden regime really was for this.

So I think at that level, you ask a very interesting question, this is about optics, right?

The Ukrainians have the courage of a lion.

President @ZelenskyyUa has given the roar of that lion.

The UK stands unwaveringly with the people of Ukraine.

Slava Ukraini 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 pic.twitter.com/u6vGYqmK4V

— Boris Johnson (@BorisJohnson) April 9, 2022

CLAY: All cosmetic.

BUCK: It’s all perception, it’s all optics. But anytime Biden goes there right now, he associates himself with the situation in Ukraine, it’s a reminder to a lot of us that there’s a failure of the regime here and that we have the biggest war in Europe since World War II under the Biden prance with it’s 8.5%CPI today and it’s wide open border and it’s massive increase in crime.

Am I leaving anything out? There’s a lot.

CLAY: No. It’s well said. I’ll bet that’s the debate they’re having in the White House right now because there’s no doubt that Boris Johnson being on the ground in Ukraine makes Biden look weak, but there have gotta be advisers inside the White House saying, wait a minute. If we go back to Ukraine to put Biden back on the ground in Ukraine for some reason, then it’s gonna draw even more attention to the fact that we aren’t willing to travel to the southern border.

And I think we gotta keep beating this drum pretty hard as Title 42 comes up here in May. Buck, Joe Biden has been president now for almost a year and a half and has not found the time to visit the southern border yet. Hasn’t found the time.

He can fly all the way to Europe. He can go to Europe, and he can go walk around and study the Ukrainian border; but he hasn’t found the time to visit our own country’s southern border. And I think you were one of the first people to point this  out, but it’s becoming more and more glaring every day.