Is the Media Irredeemably Dishonest?
15 Nov 2021
CLAY: Thereโs a bevy of stories for us to dive into. But I want to hit you with a bevy of fake news, as Donald Trump would say. I also want to let you know about a big ruling out of the Fifth Circuit that dropped on Friday night. Weโll talk a little bit about the legal implications of the ruling, which was a slapdown โ incredible, incredible ruling from the Fifth Circuit โ saying that the vaccine mandate implemented by Joe Biden through OSHA is unconstitutional for a variety of reasons.
I hope that other circuit courts will also adopt the same perspective. But in the meantime, Joe Bidenโs vaccine mandate on the legal ropes. But we havenโt talked a ton about the Steele dossier being completely wiped out as a legitimate basis for news. After five years, itโs pretty wild to think about. After five years of trumpeting this all throughout the Washington Post โ Democracy Dies in Darkness and all that jazz.
The New York Times, MSNBC, CNNโฆ Buck, MSNBC and CNN have barely acknowledged in any way that the Steele dossier is now a complete fabrication. The Washington Post wrote a mea culpa. Same thing happened for Axios. But Andrew Sullivan had a good piece that he tweeted out that said, โWhen All the Media Narratives Collapse,โ and he listed all these different things.
I know a lot of our audience experienced the failure of the media on these stories, but when you see them all lined up one after the other, itโs pretty crazy. In the 2016 election, the media said Hillary Clinton was gonna triumph. When she didnโt, they blamed Russia collusion. Kyle Rittenhouse, right now it appears that heโs very likely to not be found guilty.
The media told you that he was a racist white supremacist hell-bent on committing murder. Covington Catholic kid, Nicholas Sandmann on the front steps? The vaccines and the fact that they were highly effective? That certainly has blown up as weโve been telling you for months on this show. The lab leak theory was unacceptable to suggest that covid came out of a lab leak. Now seemed like it did, Jussie Smollett, the Atlanta shootings, Hunter Bidenโs laptop, inflation, the Steele dossier.
These are just some of them. The mainstream media got all of these stories wrong, Buck. And not only did they get them wrong, they lectured all of us who asked any questions about them and said we were spreading disinformation, misinformation, that we should have our abilities to talk to our audience restricted.
2016 election. Rittenhouse. Covington. Russian collusion. Vaccines. Bounties on US soldiers. Lab-leak theory. Jussie Smollett. The Pulse shooting. The Atlanta shootings. Hunter Biden laptop. Inflation. Steele Dossier.
The MSM got every single one wrong.https://t.co/U5YJUtFQOD
โ Andrew Sullivan (@sullydish) November 12, 2021
BUCK: I wonder where Andrew Sullivan was during some of these. Iโm just gonna say that. As much as I like when people come to the truth, so I donโt ever want to beโฆ You know, there was somebody before it a very far left, Young Turks who came out and said, โYou know, I was wrong about Rittenhouse.โ So I never want to be that person that pounces on people. You arrive at the truth? Okay, good.
But I do have a frustration here, Clay, as youโre reading that stuff out. Andrew Sullivan does a lot of good work on different issues. Hereโs a liberal or sometimes heโs honest โ or he seems to be honest, I should say โ on most issues. But this stuff was obvious. I did a podcast the first week of the Jussie Smollett case where the title was โJussie Smollett Is Lying.โ Everyoneโs saying, โOh, itโs crazy what happened to him and itโs awful!โ Iโm like, โThereโs no way it happened.โ
CLAY: Yeah. Kamala said it was a lynching, a hate crime. Sheโs an idiot, but thatโs what she tweeted.
BUCK: And the same time, remember there was that moral panic over โnooseโ all over the country and it kept being found out, โOh, it was a rope someone was using at a tree in a park for exercise equipment,โ or, โOh, it was a door pull at a garage.โ
CLAY: At NASCAR, after all the stories, yes.
BUCK: Weโre going through something akin to a leftist cultural revolution, a Maoist cultural revolution where independent thought, asking questions, trying to be a free thinker โ and also trying to be accountable for whatโs true and whatโs not and what you say. Because all thatโs going on right now โ and they want to stop people from doing โaccountability,โ in their words โ what are we supposed to take from this?
The media has been consistently wrong on huge issues in the same direction not because of honest mistakes. Thatโs their alibi and itโs bull crap. Itโs because they are activists, and itโs because the Democrat-corporate mediaโฆ The same way that Democrats control 90% plus of all the faculty lounges and universities, the same way they control Netflix and they control the Hollywood studios before that.
They control 95% of the corporate-owned media, at least, and theyโre running an agenda all the time. โCause the numbers donโt add up otherwise right? You would at least get something wrong at some point that was favorable to the right. Never happens. It doesnโt occur. Itโs a statistical impossibility that whatโs going on here is not intentional. But when you realize itโs intentional, then you know what weโre dealing with, which is a bunch of ruthless commies pushing propaganda like the New York Times, CNN, et cetera.
CLAY: Whatโs so funny about that, Buck, is Iโve made that argument and it leaves everybody speechless. I just say, โHey, youโre right. Maybe the media is not biased. Tell me about all the great stories that ended up not being true that painted Donald Trump in a more flattering light.โ You canโt even point to one! You would think if you were just haphazard and frequently wrong in your analysisโฆ Has CNN, MSNBC, the Washington Post, or the New York Times ever had a flattering and incorrect article about Donald Trump that benefited him that we later found out was untrue? I canโt even think of one.
BUCK: There isnโt one. Itโs not even that we โ
CLAY: Thatโs how crazy that is.
BUCK: I would go as far as to say it just didnโt happen, right? Itโs not even like we could find one or two that maybe, you know, creates a little bit more dissonance in this argument. This is a 100% proposition because you could never get that through a newsroom because hereโs the real issue, Clay. It isnโt that they may never stumble on to news that might be favorable to the right.
They would never print news that is favorable to the right that was not an absolute necessity, right? I mean, unless itโs the jobs numbers looking good and they know they canโt get away with fabricating it. Unless itโs something thatโs impossible for them to effectively cheat on through editorializing in a way that favors one side, it wonโt happen. Thatโs the way the system is set up.
And so when we tell people out there you cannot trust them, weโre not saying this without reason. Weโre not saying this without justification for it based on how they conduct themselves. These news entities are operating in a realm of lies. They lie about being unbiased, they lie about holding themselves accountable constantly โ and that is actually now their mission statement.
They started to slip a little bit and even say it during the Trump era where the truth was anti-Trump. They come up with these very frightening, authoritarian-sounding slogans. You know, โspeech we donโt like is violence,โ โthe truth is anti-Trump.โ You say, hold on a second. That doesnโt sound like what a free society should be adhering to.
CLAY: Itโs also important, Buck, to distinguish all the things that we just ran through were reported as fact, not opinion. And I feel much of the challenge that we have in American media right now is over a failure oftentimes to distinguish between fact and opinion. All of those things that were shared were allegations mostly of fact, right?
If somebody watches the Kyle Rittenhouse trial right now and writes a piece, โI think Kyle Rittenhouse should be found guilty; here are four things that happened in the trial that make me believe that,โ thatโs an opinion piece. You can agree or disagree with it, but itโs founded on whatโs actually taken place in the trial itself.
When you say the Steele dossier is accurate, like Adam Schiff said for years and is justification underlying for Donald Trumpโs removal from office and then it all is found to be untrue, it destroys the factual basis of the claim but then also every opinion base that was rooted in that case, which is a huge portion of overall discussion โ hours and hours of falsehoods โ and many people still donโt know that itโs fake news.
BUCK: And isnโt it fascinating that at the same time where we have seen more open and egregious falsehoods from the biggest news organizations in America that are Democrat aligned, right? CNN, New York Times, Washington Post โ go down the list, all of them โ MSNBC, NBC News, ABC News. At the same time when you see that happening, you also have a shift in journalism โ quote-unquote, โjournalismโ โ to, โWe need to shut down ideas we donโt like. We need people to be banned from Twitter who say things about masks that we disagree with! We need to shutdown questions about vaccines.โ
CLAY: Fox News shouldnโt be allowed to broadcast.
BUCK: What?
CLAY: โFox News shouldnโt be allowed to broadcast.โ Thatโs an argument that has been made.
BUCK: This isโฆ They want their opponents to be shut up because in a free market of ideas, these people look like the liars and the jackasses that they are, and they all have both very big and fragile egos at the same time. Itโs a remarkable thing about lib journos.
CLAY: No doubt.
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