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BUCK: One area where I’m sure we could have a lot of folks weigh in is how crime is going in their cities in this year, and there was a crime that got a lot of attention over the weekend. A man splashed paint on a George Floyd statue in Union Square. Now, I think… Let me just say, I’m opposed to vandalism and destroying private or public sector property.

I’m opposed to that. I don’t agree with this. I do think it’s interesting, though, that if you want to pull down a statue that the left doesn’t like, it’s a heroic act of #Resistance for those vandals. But if somebody throws some silver paint on a George Floyd statue — which, I think it’s fair to ask, “Why are we making statues of George Floyd in this country?” and actually around the world, by the way.

There are George Floyd murals and memorials all over the world. Remarkable. Why exactly are we doing that? But some paint was splashed on it. Now we’re being told the NYPD is mobilizing on this as a hate crime. What happened as a result of the George Floyd killing in Minneapolis? There was the BLM movement once again, and what did the BLM movement do?

Well, Clay, today we have yet another example of reimagining/defunding police results in. Austin, Texas — a really great, fun town — has had its highest ever homicide rate. Sixty homicides already this year in the city of Austin. And that’s the highest it’s ever been. The highest ever. In 1984, it was 59. In response to all this, police have said they are going to stop responding to certain kinds of calls.

There are police reforms underway that say that you (here we go) should not call police. You should call their equivalent of local services — we call it 311 in New York; I don’t know what it is elsewhere — for all kinds of things that involve crime “unless there’s an imminent threat to life or property or the suspects are still in your sites.” No more calling the cops after you come home you find there was a burglar. Call 311, local services.

CLAY: The fact that 5,000, roughly, additional people died in 2020 as the result of the murder rate skyrocketing, mostly young people? The fact that that hasn’t been a bigger topic of conversation in the wake of defund the police movement and of the failure to back the blue in any way — and that cities like Austin, which decided to dial back their dollars that they were spending on police and have led to a lot of different people deciding to leave the force.

The fact that this hasn’t been one of the biggest stories in American politics and American news is a sign of how much in the bed the mainstream media is with these deranged left-wing lunatics who argued in favor of defund the police. Buck, was there a lot of different perspectives people can argue in favor of and against. But defund the police I believe is the dumbest political argument of the twenty-first century and maybe the dumbest argument that most of us have ever seen in our lives.

Because you knew exactly what was gonna happen in the wake of Ferguson in 2016. You knew what was gonna happen. The murder rate was going to skyrocket, the violent crime rate was going to increase, and the people who were gonna be the biggest losers — the biggest victims — of this crime rate were going to be black. Right? Black Lives Matter, the irony of it is, Black Lives Matter claims to care about the safety of black individuals in the cities, and they actually led to far more than being dead than otherwise would have. It’s just an absolute tragedy.