Fired Up Callers Unleash Fury on Our Inept President

BUCK: We do you want to get to a few of our folks here for Open Line Friday.

CLAY: Yeah, let’s do it. Let’s hear from them.

BUCK: Joe in Ohio. What do you got, Joe?

CALLER: I was calling to raise a point. I felt compelled to call today. Obviously, everybody knows Joe Biden is not equipped to handle this situation or not doing a very good job leading us through it. But I wanted to raise a point that I don’t hear anybody talking about, which is that the Taliban didn’t just recruit and organize and mobilize this assault and these attacks overnight. Where was intelligence community? Obviously we’ve been fighting a war there for the past 20 years, which goes hand in hand with intelligence operations. But where was the intelligence while this gathering and this mobilization was occurring?

BUCK: Joe, can I just ask, are you a veteran or just a well-informed citizen?

CALLER: A little of both. (chuckles)

BUCK: Okay.

CALLER: I’m from a military family.

BUCK: I got you. I got you. No, ’cause, Joe, look, you’re squared away on the subject. I was just wondering. But what I would say on the intel side is the same way that groupthink can exist for politicians where the person, the adviser tells the president or whomever what he wants to hear gets elevated. That is absolutely true in the intelligence community.

So this was why that cable, that State Department cable that now everybody’s pointing to saying, “See? See? Yeah!” But the guys and gals, of course, who were telling Biden in the government, “Oh, it will be okay,” Clay, they’re the ones that get invited back to the Oval Office. They’re the ones that get promotions and get elevated within the intelligence community. I know because I come from that world.

CLAY: Yeah, and that’s what’s so difficult. We’re seeing a lot of these stories. A great call from Joe. If you missed it, there’s a front-page story in the Wall Street Journal that 23 different Afghan embassy employees wrote and said (summarized), “Hey, you guys are making a disastrous decision. Based on what we’re seeing on the ground, the Taliban’s gonna move much more rapid than your forecast” went to the secretary of state.

We’ve seen people in the military. We’ve seen people in the intelligence community letting it be known that those opinions were out there. But to Buck’s point, you don’t get invited to the White House and become one of the beloved members of the of the Biden administration if you are the skunk at the garden party who’s saying, “Hey, we got a real mess here.” The overall consensus was that this was going to be a success, and the failure here is that there were plenty of people who could have told you it wasn’t, and they weren’t listened to.

CLAY: Within a bureaucracy — especially the federal bureaucracy, friends — it’s not about being right or being smart. It’s about being liked by the people who hold open the doors and can elevate you, and that is a huge “misincentive,” if you will, within the federal government, in the intelligence community, the CIA, the DOD, the you-name-it.

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BUCK: Jim in Florida, a Marine vet who has a translator outside the gate in Kabul. Jim, tell us what’s going on.

CALLER: Yes. I’m a Navy Seabee vet. I was embedded with the India Company’s 36 Marine 2nd Platoon, one in 2010 and then again in 2011. Now, our translator, he gave us a word-by-word translation. That’s why we trust him. He didn’t give us a summary, and he’s outside the gate right now as we speak.

And he tells me just before I called you that there are about six flights a night, that nothing’s happening in and out during the day. And I told him to look for a French or an English convoy because they are leaving the tarmac, and they are picking up the friendlies and their citizens. They’re taking them to the airport.

And I said, “The Americans are not.” I said, “The colonel in charge there has said that you’re damaging the relationship that they’re trying to build with the Taliban government by going outside and getting their citizens.” So I didn’t have the heart to tell him that he’s screwed, but that’s right where he’s at right now.

I’m trying… My congressman, Congressman Posey, his office told me there are flights out of India — U.S. government flights, military — going picking up refugees and taking ’em back to India. And out of Istanbul, Turkey, and another part of Turkey also.

CLAY: Thanks. I’m sorry to cut you off, but thank you for the update of what’s going on. We played some clips from right outside of that Kabul airport, and I think what you’re hearing — and you just heard from our caller there — is the chaotic situations that exist right now are really creating all sorts of major issues going forward.

Buck, again, Clarissa Ward on the ground reporting right now that there are no flights over the past eight hours that have taken off. And as a result, this is a major, major issue. Maybe that’s one reason why Joe Biden’s not addressing the nation as he was scheduled to do, Buck, because they’re aware that they’ve got even more of a mess on the ground today that be maybe they anticipated.

BUCK: The lateness, I have to assume here — and maybe you can’t assume anything about this Biden administration. Maybe it’s just so under duress and wildly incompetent that the normal analysis you would do… I think it’s possible that we’re not even in a normal White House analysis situation anymore because of what we’re seeing here with Joe Biden.

That’s been the case, I think, for a while. But, Clay, to be this late on an address like this you have to think that it’s because there’s either some last-minute back-and-forth about what the messaging should be. Meaning that they’re really unsettled and uncertain about it, or they’re trying to get up to speed with events on the ground and not have foreclosure debacle where they say things that a day later or maybe even an hour later we realize, “Oh, that wasn’t true; they’re really not in charge.

Let’s get Riscalla in Florida. Another Florida caller. What’s up, Riscalla?

CALLER: Hey, guys. I just want to let you know, as a veteran in the Vietnam War, what is happening today is absolutely unacceptable. In the short time that this man has been a president, he has driven our country to the lowest depth that it’s ever been in the history of our country. We’ve left over $1 trillion worth of equipment there in Afghanistan!

Guess who that’s gonna be used against? What about all the people that we left there, and we gave them our word, “We have your back,” and here we are stabbing them in the back instead of covering their back. This is totally unacceptable. What happened to the 70 million people who supposedly voted for Trump? Where the hell are you people, man! You all should be speaking up right now. We should be up in arms with these people. We cannot allow this to continue.

BUCK: Riscalla, we appreciate the call.

CLAY: Well, I think there’s a lot of people fired up, Buck, right? I think the combination of what’s going on with covid, what’s going on at the border, what’s going on with the overall collapse of inflation, people are fired up in a way they haven’t been in a long time.

BUCK: Right. Riscalla, thanks for calling us from Florida. And, Clay, just to your point about everyone being fired up, I’d say Americans now — the ones who are paying attention and have their eyes open — understand that our freedom… This is on the covid side. Our freedom is under greater assault than it has ever been in my lifetime, no question about it.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And simultaneously what we’re seeing in Afghanistan is the people in charge are morons.

CLAY: (laughing) Yes.

BUCK: So your freedom is under assault, and the people in charge are morons. That does not make for a happy American populace, at least for those of us who aren’t the brainwashed sheep who just want to be safe and fed and warm and everything else is the same to them; it doesn’t matter to them at all — also known as MSNBC and CNN watchers.

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BUCK: Francine in Texas, you’ve got thoughts for us. What’s up, Francine?

CALLER: Hey! I just wanted to ask, I keep hearing we had an “insurrection” on January the 6th. I always thought that in an insurrection, people would be carrying guns and rifles. What I saw was the Capitol Police moving barricades, inviting people in, then walking right past the guards. Nobody said a word to anybody.

BUCK: Well, Francine, that’s because obviously it wasn’t — as you know and from your question, I understand this — it wasn’t an insurrection. But that term is used, the same way that Russia “collusion” was used as a weaponized term and it was a lie all along to go against the Trump administration. The “insurrection” is now meant to be a term of derision and suppression of all Trump voters. Everybody who voted for Trump is part of, in the leftist mind, this so-called insurrection. It’s a smear!

CLAY: It’s all they’ve got left.

BUCK: It’s a giant smear.

CLAY: It’s all they’ve got left, Buck, at this point, right?

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: With the way Afghanistan’s going and all the other failures of the Biden administration, the only thing they have left is January 6th. And even the FBI — we talked about this earlier today in the show — came out basically and said it wasn’t an insurrection. There was no organized apparatus attempting to overthrow government, which is certainly Democrats have been arguing for eight months now.

BUCK: An insurrection — and thank you, Francie — is a tremendously serious, grave thing. There are federal statutes about insurrection and rebellion. No one is being charged under those.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: Not a single person yet.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: So it’s like they’re saying, “Oh, this person’s a mass murderer,” then you find out, “Well, no actually they didn’t murder anybody.” Well, then why you calling them a mass murderer?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They’re just lying about this. It’s not an insurrection.

CLAY: No. If they had the ability to charge, as you pointed out… You wrote a good piece at BuckSexton.com. If they had the ability to charge them with insurrection, they would.

BUCK: They would have!

CLAY: Instead, they’re charging them with many more minuscule violations of statute.

BUCK: They’re going after them for things like “impeding a government function,” and I can understand. I’m not saying that all those laws are not a big deal or whatever — although it’s not that big a deal. But then think about what happened with BLM and the riots all summer and the Capitol Hill autonomous zone in Seattle and the efforts to create all that. All of the madness that Democrats embrace, the burning down of a police station, the attempted burning down of a church right next to the White House, all of that stuff and yet we’re not talking about that, we’re only talking about January 6.