BILL DE BLASIO: Overwhelmingly, what I expect is that the adults who work in schools who actually do love kids — the vast majority of them are there ’cause they care about children — that they’ll ultimately do the right thing. Now, look, human beings do well when they have carrot and stick. So a mandate helps people to realize it’s time. FDA final approval on Pfizer said, “It’s time.”

Now, the Biden administration can do something else that would really help us all move forward: Speed approval of the vaccine from the 5- to 11-year-olds. They’ve gotta make this a central priority. Get that vaccine ready for the 5- to 11-year-olds, and then there’s not even a question anymore about our schools. Everyone in the school building at that point could be vaccinated.

BUCK: Welcome back to the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. I wanted you to hear it from that appalling fascist, Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York City who’s got one more year, and I gotta tell you, this guy is the absolute worst, the absolute worst. It’s amazing that he could be in the position he’s in for as long as he’s been. It’s honestly depressing for the City of New York, although there are bad mayors in major cities ’cause they’re Democrats.

Let’s be honest, they’re leftists. And here he is saying probably something that you would have thought even a few months ago would have been… First of all, his carrots and stick thing makes me enraged. Like, the sticks that they’re beating people in Australia with because they want to say stop acting like we have to be under martial law for two people a day dying from what is essentially now not even a really bad flu season in Australia?

It’s not even a flu season. The whole thing is crazy. I think that’s outrageous for an American politician at any level to speak that way. But, Clay, they want to vax up your 5-year-old. They want to make your 5-year-old — not that you have only 5-year-old. I know you got three other kids. But you see what I’m saying. Young kids must get this shot that we know does have some pretty annoying side effects in general for adults and that lasts eight months at best.

CLAY: And for an illness that has zero impact on them. I mean, I think this is important. And look, every parent has the right to make choices about their own kids’ health, right? So I’m not telling you what you should or should not do. I’m just telling you this. I believe in vaccination. My kids got measles, mumps, rubella, chicken pox, all those things, as young children.

I’m not getting a covid vaccine for my 6- and my 11-year-old — or, for that matter, for my 13-year-old. It doesn’t make sense based on risk analysis. And, again, this matters, and I don’t know why people are so unwilling to discussing it. Kids are not under risk, by and large, from covid at all. Kids are under less risk from covid than they are from the seasonal flu.

And I don’t know about you, Buck. But I talk to a lot of parents. I’ve never heard any parent worried about the health of their kid from the seasonal flu. Yet the seasonal flu kills far more people on average every year — young people — than covid does, and so this was… You know, when I talked at the Williamson County school board, this was the argument I made.

First of all, yesterday I would encourage people to go listen to the podcast. Great discussion about the scientific evidence to support masks in schools. There is none. But this was the argument I made. Everyone has failed their kids. If the standard is you have to wear a mask and you have to get vaccinated for covid, that standard never existed for the seasonal flu, which is far more dangerous to kids than covid is. And I’ve never even heard the argument.

BUCK: Clay, we’ve got Fauci saying we might achieve some degree of normalization if everyone does — and that’s going to include your kids. See, folks, what they’re gonna do is they’re gonna exclude your children from school unless they get the covid shot. That’s where this is all heading. And they would say, “Oh, but we do this with MMR. We do this with other vaccines.”

But this isn’t MMR. This is a very different virus with a very different reality of longevity of giving them this vaccine. And, Clay, I just… I think that we have to see this very clearly now. They’re gearing up for a winter where the mitigation measures — and I hate that term, but you know that’s what they say — will be used regardless of what the numbers actually are because it’s going to be, “We can’t allow for a surge. We can’t allow for another variant,” as Fauci will say.

CLAY: They keep moving the goalposts. Seventy-three percent, Buck, of adults 18 and up have been vaccinated now. Seventy-three percent. We were initially told if we got to 70%, we’d get back to normal. That obviously hasn’t happened. Ninety-two percent, I believe, of all people 65 or older have received the vaccination. What they’re trying to do is argue that the number of Americans now is not high enough because they’re including people under the age of 12 in these numbers. Adults are the ones at risk, not kids. We have to have rational decision-making.