CLAY: Katie Porter made the argument that inflation is up; we need — as a result of inflation being up — even more abortions now than ever before. This is a real argument made by a real person who was elected to Congress. Listen.

Democrat Rep. Katie Porter claims #Bidenflation “reinforce[s]” the “need” for abortion.

“The fact that we’re seeing this jump in expenses … pay more at the grocery store, pay more at the pump, pay more for housing is a reason” for abortion. pic.twitter.com/jVjuzXRhPz

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) May 12, 2022

BUCK: Clay, I don’t think that “gas prices are up, so it’s time to kill the babies” is a good slogan.

CLAY: Midterm strategy?

BUCK: A good strategy for Democrats. Does this woman realize what she’s actually saying? “The price of meat is up so, like, you know, maybe you need…?” We just heard her! “The price of milk and beef is up; so maybe you need some more abortions.” What is wrong with these people?

CLAY: Here is what I would say. There are lots of Republican staff, there’s lots of people as the midterms get closer — and we need to make this a reckoning on covid which, by the way, we mentioned Biden’s trying to circulate back up. They’re arguing there’s gonna be a hundred million new covid cases. All the failures there. But based on the vote we had yesterday in the Senate, Buck, what needs to happen — and what you just heard from Katie Porter and everybody else that’s making arguments like these.

We need to just ask a basic question. And it is a big and significant question, and there are many different answers that people could give. But when does a baby begin to have rights in a world? Because based on the Senate vote, the Democrat perspective right now is never. You can get an abortion up to nine months of pregnancy, basically even right before you go into labor.

BUCK: So Democrats are advocating for the right to kill a baby.

CLAY: In my opinion. Full stop.

BUCK: Full stop.

CLAY: In my opinion. In my opinion people can — again we can have all sorts of debates about this —

BUCK: We’re talking to eighth, ninth month, I don’t know if there’s a debate there. I wonder what that debate is.

CLAY: I think it’s murder, right?

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: And it would be murder under virtually every state statute which is why I take the conversation outside of abortion and just say, “Hey, if a pregnant mom in the eighth or ninth month of her pregnancy was shot and as a result the baby also died, that’s a double murder charge. That’s two murders.” Okay? So when does that baby begin to have rights? I’d like to hear Democrats answer that question. “Never” appears to be the official perspective of their party.

BUCK: But just to be clear, you had an elected member of Congress there arguing on national TV that, yeah, you know, inflation being higher just shows that you need to be able to have abortion. That was the argument. Yellen’s argument just a couple of days ago which Senator Tim Scott obviously took exception to —

CLAY: It was racist.

BUCK: — which was, oh, well, you know, low income and minority individuals need to be able to have abortions ’cause they, you know, they won’t be able to be in a position to financially have a child.

CLAY: I think she specifically said black women, which is even crazier. We’ll have to go back. I’m pretty sure, Buck, she wasn’t just saying low-income people. I think she specifically said black women need to be able to not have to have their children, and then Tim Scott fired back and said, “Well, I’m glad my black mother made the choice to have me.”

BUCK: I think your recollection is correct, by the way, yeah.

CLAY: I mean, that audio was so racist, like, if you listen to it. Yeah.

BUCK: That’s the Treasury secretary! This is a member of Congress. Listen to the arguments that these people are making, folks. And then think about who on the pro-life side is saying anything crazy? Nobody! It’s all reasonable.

CLAY: And that’s my point. The dogmaticism, if that is a word, is occurring almost exclusively on the Democrat side of the abortion argument.