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Clay and Buck

Clay and Buck

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Dem Pollster Mark Pennโ€™s Dire Warning for His Party

26 Apr 2022

BUCK: Weโ€™re gonna dive into the latest on immigration, Title 42, getting removed or not, maybe. Got a judge who has said, โ€œNo, no, no. Not so fast,โ€ and, ironically, this could actually benefit the Democrats and, honestly, the country against the Democratsโ€™ protests and all theโ€ฆ Weโ€™ll get into that, though, and the politics around it, the realities of whatโ€™s going on at our southern border and of course some of the problems that we are already seeing that are happening because we donโ€™t have an administration that believes in the rule of law when it comes to immigration.

But first there is โ€” I think youโ€™re noticing โ€” a very real panic. Clay, theyโ€™re not quite at the just, โ€œRun for the exits! Get to the bunker!โ€ But the Democrats are definitely feeling right now like, โ€œUhhh, itโ€™s almost May. Mayโ€™s gonna turn into June real fast. Not a lot happens in politics over the summer,โ€ and theyโ€™re looking at the reckoning.

CLAY: Thatโ€™s right.

BUCK: We just call it #TheReckoning in politics this fall that we are telling you โ€” and, by the way, we are pedal-to-the-metal. We are pushing all the way. A win that any Democrat on air at MSNBC isnโ€™t basically in tears over is not good enough.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Thatโ€™s theโ€ฆ If there arenโ€™t lib tears on MSNBC, we will not be happy with the results. Here is a Democratic pollster โ€” a very smart fellow, Mr. Mark Penn โ€” saying that Democrats havenโ€™t been scared like this in a long time.

BUCK: โ€œVoters havenโ€™t been this afraid in a long time.โ€ You add all those big issues together, Clay, thereโ€™s nothingโ€ฆ What is the bigโ€ฆ? I will just note: What is the big move that Biden could do without, in the eyes of his base, betraying them? Thereโ€™s nothing. Heโ€™s not gonna do anything.

CLAY: Thatโ€™s the only thing I think, โ€™cause the Elizabeth Warrens of the world may get their way where the Democrats recognize that theyโ€™re staring down an oncoming train and that thereโ€™s no way to step out of the way of it, and so they just decide to push through even more liberal, left-wing bills because they know theyโ€™re not gonna be able to do it for the next two years.

BUCK: I think thatโ€™s what weโ€™re seeing. Weโ€™re gonna dive into the border situation and illegal immigration here in a minute โ€” and weโ€™ve kept our promise to you, folks. We are watching this closely, and every time we can tell you whatโ€™s going on there โ€” โ€™cause the whole country needs to know about it. You just filed your taxes. You better or else, right, โ€™cause the rule of lawโ€ฆ

Uh, there is no rule of law at our southern border. Itโ€™s a joke, itโ€™s a mess, and the Biden administration isnโ€™t just complicit. Theyโ€™re pushing this. Theyโ€™re making it impossible for Border Patrol to do their jobs and for us to actually have sovereignty. But, Clay, I think that maybe the whole Title 42 thing in the sense โ€” this may be getting ahead of where weโ€™re about to go โ€“ is they figure out, โ€œYou know what? Just open the gates.

โ€œWeโ€™re gonna get crushed in the midterms anyway. Open the floodgates. Weโ€™ll turn them into Democrat voters in five years or 10 years or whatever. The far-left base will be happy. Weโ€™ll regroup after the midterms; then there might be some sanity. But for right now, let everybody in who can get hereโ€ is the idea because Democrats really do want an open border.

CLAY: Thatโ€™s my concern, basically, is that they just go pedal-to-the-metal, recognizing that theyโ€™re gonna lose the House and that theyโ€™re gonna lose the Senate. Now, itโ€™s important to mention โ€” and weโ€™ll talk about this with Title 42 when we come back โ€” that there are a lot of Democrats, pretty much all of them in toss-up states โ€” Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico even which is maybe kind of floating around out there.

Clay and BuckThere are a bunch of Democrats that are saying, โ€œNo, no, no, no,โ€ to this Title 42 idea, and it makes me wonder how far left-wing might they go, because they basically given up on the chance of having any real success in the midterms and why not try and get things passed, in the meantime. I could see the Elizabeth Warrens of the world winning that argument.

BUCK: I think theyโ€™ve boxed themselves into a corner because anything that would stop the flow? Some of those things are what Trump was doing. You canโ€™t do that, right, Clay?

CLAY: No.

BUCK: You canโ€™t admit Trump was right on any aspect of the border? So what are they going to do? I think theyโ€™re gonna try to hide the numbers or hide the people rather who are coming in.

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