Dem Pollster Mark Pennโs Dire Warning for His Party
26 Apr 2022
BUCK: Weโre gonna dive into the latest on immigration, Title 42, getting removed or not, maybe. Got a judge who has said, โNo, no, no. Not so fast,โ and, ironically, this could actually benefit the Democrats and, honestly, the country against the Democratsโ protests and all theโฆ Weโll get into that, though, and the politics around it, the realities of whatโs going on at our southern border and of course some of the problems that we are already seeing that are happening because we donโt have an administration that believes in the rule of law when it comes to immigration.
But first there is โ I think youโre noticing โ a very real panic. Clay, theyโre not quite at the just, โRun for the exits! Get to the bunker!โ But the Democrats are definitely feeling right now like, โUhhh, itโs almost May. Mayโs gonna turn into June real fast. Not a lot happens in politics over the summer,โ and theyโre looking at the reckoning.
CLAY: Thatโs right.
BUCK: We just call it #TheReckoning in politics this fall that we are telling you โ and, by the way, we are pedal-to-the-metal. We are pushing all the way. A win that any Democrat on air at MSNBC isnโt basically in tears over is not good enough.
CLAY: (laughing)
BUCK: Thatโs theโฆ If there arenโt lib tears on MSNBC, we will not be happy with the results. Here is a Democratic pollster โ a very smart fellow, Mr. Mark Penn โ saying that Democrats havenโt been scared like this in a long time.
BUCK: โVoters havenโt been this afraid in a long time.โ You add all those big issues together, Clay, thereโs nothingโฆ What is the bigโฆ? I will just note: What is the big move that Biden could do without, in the eyes of his base, betraying them? Thereโs nothing. Heโs not gonna do anything.
CLAY: Thatโs the only thing I think, โcause the Elizabeth Warrens of the world may get their way where the Democrats recognize that theyโre staring down an oncoming train and that thereโs no way to step out of the way of it, and so they just decide to push through even more liberal, left-wing bills because they know theyโre not gonna be able to do it for the next two years.
BUCK: I think thatโs what weโre seeing. Weโre gonna dive into the border situation and illegal immigration here in a minute โ and weโve kept our promise to you, folks. We are watching this closely, and every time we can tell you whatโs going on there โ โcause the whole country needs to know about it. You just filed your taxes. You better or else, right, โcause the rule of lawโฆ
Uh, there is no rule of law at our southern border. Itโs a joke, itโs a mess, and the Biden administration isnโt just complicit. Theyโre pushing this. Theyโre making it impossible for Border Patrol to do their jobs and for us to actually have sovereignty. But, Clay, I think that maybe the whole Title 42 thing in the sense โ this may be getting ahead of where weโre about to go โ is they figure out, โYou know what? Just open the gates.
โWeโre gonna get crushed in the midterms anyway. Open the floodgates. Weโll turn them into Democrat voters in five years or 10 years or whatever. The far-left base will be happy. Weโll regroup after the midterms; then there might be some sanity. But for right now, let everybody in who can get hereโ is the idea because Democrats really do want an open border.
CLAY: Thatโs my concern, basically, is that they just go pedal-to-the-metal, recognizing that theyโre gonna lose the House and that theyโre gonna lose the Senate. Now, itโs important to mention โ and weโll talk about this with Title 42 when we come back โ that there are a lot of Democrats, pretty much all of them in toss-up states โ Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico even which is maybe kind of floating around out there.
There are a bunch of Democrats that are saying, โNo, no, no, no,โ to this Title 42 idea, and it makes me wonder how far left-wing might they go, because they basically given up on the chance of having any real success in the midterms and why not try and get things passed, in the meantime. I could see the Elizabeth Warrens of the world winning that argument.
BUCK: I think theyโve boxed themselves into a corner because anything that would stop the flow? Some of those things are what Trump was doing. You canโt do that, right, Clay?
CLAY: No.
BUCK: You canโt admit Trump was right on any aspect of the border? So what are they going to do? I think theyโre gonna try to hide the numbers or hide the people rather who are coming in.
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