CLAY: I wanted to make sure I mentioned how CNN covered their town hall. It is true insanity. This was CNN. They had this on as CNN Breaking News in the wake of the Joe Biden town hall.

TOWN HALL ATTENDEE: How will you address gun violence from a federal point of view to actually bring about change and make our local cities safer?

BIDEN: Now, I’m not bein’ a wise guy. There’s no reason you should. Have you seen my gun violence legislation I’ve introduced? As you know, because you’re so involved (pause) actually crime is down. Gun violence and murder rates are up. Guns! I’m the only guy that ever got passed legislation, when I was a senator, to make sure we eliminated assault weapons. The idea you need a weapon that can have the ability to fire 20, 30, 40, 50, 120 shots from that weapon — whether it’s… w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-whether a 9mm pistol or whether it’s a rifle is ridiculous.

CLAY: That’s Joe Biden talking about the crime which is out of control and we’re gonna talk about some tomorrow as well. And it reminds me a little bit of D.C. mayor Marion Barry who famously said, “D.C. doesn’t have a crime rate except for the murders.” When you say, “Crime’s down except for the murders,” it’s kind of an important part to not have a lot of murders. But what I wanted to hit you was CNN covering this town hall.

You heard us play a lot of those different cuts throughout the course of the show. In his CNN town hall, this is CNN Breaking News: “Biden tackled covid-19 vaccine his fancy and misinformation and delivered some tough economic love as he discussed pressing issues.” Does that sound like an accurate reflection of what we saw and heard from Joe Biden as CNN, quote, “reports” on their own town hall?

BUCK: Joe Biden, everything he says, he will continue to say — -and in the same way — for the duration of his presidency. Because everything that he’s been saying for 40 years as a Democrat is essentially the most mediocre pablum you could ever come up with. I mean, it’s just (impression), “Folks, we’re gonna… (mumbling) Middle class and fair shot and people sitting down, looking at the bowl in front of them and thinking ‘America.'”

You sit there and say, “What is this idiot actually rambling about?” But that’s everything with him all the time. Remember when he was supposed to be the foreign policy brain of the Obama administration? That was initially why he was the vice president. They just… Whatever they want to say about Joe, they’ll say about Joe. It doesn’t really matter.

CLAY: Yeah, and we’re gonna talk about this with Jim Jordan tomorrow in the second hour. I encourage you to listen to that conversation. But I think what you’re seeing is while Democratic Party claims that they care a great deal about disinformation and all of those assorted aspects, they are the disinformation masters. (chuckles)

I’m reading Harry Potter to my 6-year-old right now, and the Democrats in many ways have mastered the Dark Arts. If you’ve been reading or watch those films at any point, it’s really kind of amazing how they are so adroit and adept at accusing Republicans of things that they themselves are doing and doing more effectively. (laughing) I mean, it’s amazing.

BUCK: That’s a favorite tactic. The favorite during the Obama years that I recall was Obama always just smashing arguments that Republicans were making, except they weren’t actually making those arguments, but he would pretend. He’d be like, “Some people say everyone in America should starve to death and we all hate our own children, but I disagree.” That was the Obama move.

In the Biden era, the classic Democrat attack has turned into, “They’re undermining our democracy,” while — oh, I don’t know — a bunch of Texas Democrats are absconding from Austin and not allowing the state legislature to act or not allowing people to leave their homes and go to their churches during covid. I think the threat-from-democracy people are the ones who are always talking about it.