Clay Gets Blowback for Buck’s Batman Movie Take

CLAY: Buck, I can’t believe the amount of blowback I have gotten over your opinion of the new Batman movie. I occasionally do flybys of my mentions, and I sent you a DM that I got last night. First of all, some people are confusing us, and I’m being attacked because of your opinion of the Batman movie.

BUCK: Anytime there’s a lot of heat, folks, anytime anything is said on this show that upsets you, just remember it’s @ClayTravis on Twitter –

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: — or send it to his email because, I assure you, the only one of us who ever upsets you is the other guy.

CLAY: What is wild is we have one of the most opinionated shows in all of media. Every single day there are a hundred things that you could hear either Buck or I say, and you could decide, “Hey, you know what? I can’t believe they said this” or “I can’t believe they said that.” Almost none of it creates a stir. Your opinion on the Batman movie has just got people fired up beyond belief. You said it was… I haven’t even seen it. You said it was awful, and the Batman people are mad at me because you said it.

BUCK: It’s sort of like torture for the eyeballs. It’s 3-1/2 hours long. You’re like, “What am I even watching?” But, like I said, if you’re upset about the Batman movie review, @ClayTravis on Twitter, Clay will take all the heat for it. Don’t worry. Don’t get mad at me for it. I try to always give a recommendation of something that’s good if I’m gonna say something that’s bad.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So, I’ve been talking Clay’s ear off about this. I am not a Formula 1 race car driving fan. I knew nothing. I came to it, I knew NASCAR, the cars looked different and that was about it. I didn’t even anything about Formula 1, and I know it’s Netflix, and I know that Netflix is run by leftist lunatics, but it is really well done, the Formula 1 show.

There’s very little politics because it’s Formula 1 show. There’s a little bit. It does happen sometimes. There’s some discussion of, like, Black Lives Matter movement, stuff like that. But, in general, it’s about cars going really, really fast. Formula 1 is amazing and also super dangerous.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Which I didn’t know.

CLAY: I knew kind of both of those things, but I haven’t paid a lot of attention to that, although you continue to sing the praises of the show, and actually it seems to have impacted the actual F1 race ratings in a substantial way because it’s brought in a lot of people who otherwise would have never cared about F1 racing because they love this documentary and this story and how well it’s told.

BUCK: Yeah, it’s cool to learn about something new that you’ve never really experienced before and the intricacies of it and obviously Formula 1 they’re spending, the teams spend, like, over a hundred million dollars, I think, sometimes. There’s huge sums of money that are involved in this sport. Just to be involved in it is very, very expensive, and so it’s cool to learn something new.

I didn’t grow up playing football. I didn’t really understand that much about football. I grew up playing basketball, soccer, tennis, baseball. I wasn’t very good at baseball, to be honest. I would have… Clay, you would have had me batting like eighth on your Little League team.

CLAY: I cannot believe how many baseball games I have been — Little League baseball games I have been to — in the last three weeks.

BUCK: Give us what’s the best, like, Little League story you’ve got so far? By the way, do parents ever, like, yell smack at you from across the field? ‘Cause when I was a coach for a high school soccer team, parents at some of these schools would, they would talk stuff to me. I’m like, we’re both adults. Like, you’re not supposed to do that!

CLAY: I haven’t had any big issues. The umpires in general for Little League baseball — this may be officiating in general — a lot of youth sports the parents get way more involved. My theory on that is that parents invest way more money now in their kids’ athletic careers than they did when you and I were growing up, Buck, and certainly when people who are older than us were.

The kids are so much better because they’re more skilled, they’re trained at a higher level. But I think that makes the parents — given the money that they’re spending on the athletics — more angry about officiating errors than they were maybe 25, 30 years ago. So, there can be… I was at a Little League tournament recently where I thought two parents… Two parents had to be separated from getting into a fight.

If you’re at the level of 11-year-old baseball and you’re ready to throw down with somebody over cheering at Little League baseball games, you just gotta take a step back and realize what exactly you’re doing. They have these great signs where they kind of try to contextualize for parents, “Hey, your kids are not pros.

“These are umpires who are probably making $50 a game,” and I’m cognizant of it as a parent. You know, when bad calls are made, I have a natural tendency to react. But I couldn’t believe it when they almost had two dads, like, throwing haymakers at each other over an 11-year-old baseball game.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: They had to be separated.

BUCK: I got a yellow card once — the only time ever — as a coach for yelling at a ref. So, you know.

CLAY: You were coaching high school, though, right?

BUCK: High school. Yeah. High school. You know, I was 22 coaching 16-year-old kids, some of whom went on to be, like, legitimate soccer players. Yeah, so it was a different. These kids were my size. It was different.

CLAY: Well, when the games are competitive enough at that level where the officiating can swing it, it gets really frustrating. So I understand it more at the high school level and beyond certainly why the coaches would get involved.

BUCK: I was gonna say, “I never thought I’d be cheering loudly at home for some overpaid French 25-year-old kid who’s driving 200 miles an hour.” I’m like, “Go! Go, McLaren!” Anyway, I love the F1 show.

CLAY: Well, here’s what I gotta do. Over the next several days I’m gonna be watching this Batman movie so that I can come back and potentially regain the trust of everyone out there.

BUCK: I hope you like it. We will have —

CLAY: I didn’t know there was such a massive Batman/Clay and Buck overlap that there would be such antipathy over this opinion.

BUCK: People just abandoned Christopher Nolan at the first moment. I see how it is.

CLAY: That trilogy was incredible.

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