CLAY: It’s the 50th anniversary, roughly, of Watergate, the beginning of the end of the Richard Nixon presidency, and certainly everything that has occurred in terms of political scandals gets a -gate affixed to it. It’s become so commonplace. But Carl Bernstein, this obsession with trying to turn January 6th into the worst thing that has ever happened in the history of the country… Carl Bernstein says that January 6th was “worse than the Civil War,” the secession that we saw from Jefferson Davis, who, when he left to become the president of the Confederacy, prior to that had been a senator from Mississippi. Listen to this.

BERNSTEIN: We don’t know what Merrick Garland is gonna do, and there is a tremendous weight on his shoulders because this is worse than Watergate. The Justice Department now has to make a decision because it’s very clear that the president, Donald Trump, violated the law. No question. There’s no question about his seditious actions. The last sedition we had in this country on any kind of scale was Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederacy, and Trump even outdid Jefferson Davis! He committed — the United States under him as the chief officer of the United States government, he committed — it to trying to stage a illegal coup.

CLAY: Oh, stop.

BUCK: Outdid Jefferson Davis? Outdid the head of the Confederacy?

CLAY: We have made fun of the fact on this show that I am a huge Civil War history stuff. I even went to Civil War sleep-away camp! January 6th is nothing like the Civil War, and Jefferson Davis — who led the Confederacy as the president of a country that was at war at the time with the United States — is nothing like what Donald Trump did. First of all, the continued attempts to call this a coup is so outside the bounds of reasonable discussion that it is an insult to anyone with a functional brain that this would still be going on.