Biden Backs Killing Filibuster for Abortion, But Manchin and Sinema Say No Within Minutes
30 Jun 2022
CLAY: For those of you out there that are paying attention to the Joe Biden administration, Buck, what is amazing to me about Joe Biden โ and I donโt mean โamazingโ in a good way โ is heโs constantly coming out and arguing for principles or policies or political agendas that are shot down within 10 or 15 minutes of him coming out and advocating for them, and this happened again. Heโs in Germany, overseas, getting ready to go to Saudi Arabia and bend the knee and beg for them to produce more oil and gas.
Generally speaking, the long-standing American policy has been, you donโt attack domestic politics overseas because it makes America look weaker to be feuding with domestic politics-related issues when weโre on the international stage. Biden can barely talk at this point. I donโt even know if he recognizes what he said and how awful it registered for many people. But I want to listen to youโฆ I said he was in Germany. I apologize. Bidenโs actually in Spain right now. Not that it matters very much one way or the other where he is. But this was today in Madrid, Spain, at the NATO summit.
Here was what Joe Biden had to say about the Supreme Court at his press conference:
Biden: โ[T]he one thing that has been destabilizing [the world] is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States in overruling not only Roe v. Wade, but essentially challenging the right to privacy.โ pic.twitter.com/HUuJlOktOH
โ Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) June 30, 2022
BIDEN: The one thing that has been destabilizing is the outrageous behavior of the Supreme Court of the United States in overruling not only Roe v. Wade by essentially challenging the right to privacy. Weโve been a leader in the world in terms of personal rights and privacy rights, and it is a mistake โ in my view โ for the Supreme Court to do what it did.
CLAY: Biden then built on this and argued that he is now in favor of removing the filibuster for purposes of โenshrining Roe v. Wade as a federal rightโ through congressional action. In order to do that, however, his own party would have to support him, and almost immediately upon Biden saying, โHey, we need to change the filibuster rules to enshrine Roe v. Wade as federal law,โ Kyrsten Sinema from Arizona and Joe Manchin from West Virginia โ two Democrats that have consistently opposed much of Bidenโs agenda โ said they still will not change any of their positions on the filibuster. So enshrining Roe v. Wade as a federal right and eliminating the filibuster for purposes of this issue it appears is not going to happen. Your thoughts, Buck, as you saw all of this play out this morning and just blow up one more time in front of Joe Biden.
BUCK: Isnโt it amazing that Mr. Unity, Joe Biden, who promised to bring the country together, is talking about a โdestabilizingโ Supreme Court decision and, by doing so, destabilizing things.
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: This is a perfect Bidenism. He acts like he is a savior or defender of the system when in fact heโs the one kicking at the load-bearing walls, taking a few swings with the sledgehammer because his polls are in the dumpster and his party is failing and we can all see it and we all know it. So what does he do? The usual, right? Takes shots at the other side, the same talking points youโve heard before. Also, this โright to privacy,โ I guarantee you Joe Biden didnโt actually read the Supreme Court decision last night. Guaranteed. Thereโs noโฆ Heโs a, quote, lawyer, right? He went to law 50 years. This guy is not somebodyโs whoโs up on the latest jurisprudence.
CLAY: I think finished last in his class at Syracuse.
BUCK: Yes.
CLAY: If Iโm not mistaken.
BUCK: A distinguishedโฆ I think it might have been second or third-to-last, to be fair.
CLAY: Low ranking in his class at Syracuse.
BUCK: But not blowing anyone away with his intellectual prowess in his twenties โ
CLAY: Intellectual acumen. Yes.
BUCK: โ nonetheless, and that was Syracuse law school in, like, what seventies?
CLAY: I think way before the seventies.
BUCK: Sixties? Heโs old, man, I canโt even keep up.
CLAY: I would think it would have to be the sixties.
HYPOCRISY EXPOSED: When Donald Trump didnโt like a Supreme Court ruling, the media attacked him for questioning the Courtโs legitimacy.
Now that the Court gave a ruling they didnโt like, Biden and his media lapdogs are the first to claim the Court is illegitimate. pic.twitter.com/nmTPtkhiv3
โ Media Research Center (@theMRC) June 30, 2022
BUCK: Sixties. So the point here being, Joe Bidenโs got nothing. But I also think โthe right to privacy,โ this was the concoction, this was the fabrication that all of Roe is built on and was just completely dismantled. What is that right, exactly? Do you have a right to privacy to abuse your spouse because itโs behind closed doors in your home? No, you do not. Do you have a right to abuse your children because of a right to privacy?
This Joe Biden talking point and the whole regime that Biden has around him thatโs collapsing, along with the talking points, just shows you, Clay, how desperate they are. I said this before: Gavin Newsom is nowโฆ Theyโre just money machine goes, โBrrr! Send everybody checks! Just start sending people checks in California so they donโt turn on your party,โ in a period of high inflation, mind you.
CLAY: Yeah, thatโs the craziest thing. Californiaโs solution to inflation โ weโre not even making this up โ is to send 23 million, I believe it is, households $1,050. So, the way for the government to solve inflation, I guarantee you, is not by the government giving people more money. Buck, there are two things that jump out to me about this aside from the fact that Joe Bidenโs own party wonโt support his policy. Number one, this, to me, means that the abortion issue is not registering with voters, okay?
And what I mean by that is, if it were registering with voters on a high-intensity level, they wouldnโt be desperate to try to enshrine it in law right now while they have control of Congress. They would use it primarily as an issue for why people need to support โem. So I donโt think that the abortion issue is really registering like Democrats hoped it would. Second part: If this were to occur, as we have seen with Supreme Court justices, sooner or later what happens is abortion would become tax policy. Let me explain what I mean by that.
When a Democrat or a Republican president comes into office and typically has strong majorities in the House or Senate, what do they do? They change tax policy, the tax rates on capital gains โcause of different views of how the government should grow the economy โ by the way, Republicans are right. (laughs) All of the data reflects that when you stifle growth with high tax rates, you end up choking out so much growth. But youโre constantly shifting the tax policy based on whoโs in positions of power at that time.
If this were to happen, Buck, I think what would happen is abortion would constantly be shifting back and forth on a federal level because when Republicans got control of the House and Senate and the White House, they would pass laws that gave states the right, or they would try to put past their own federal legislation, and so youโd constantly be swinging from one direction to another, and it would basically turn abortion into the tax policy where one eight years, the policy is one way and then eight years later, itโs change in the other direction.
BUCK: And of course this would, speaking of destabilize, as Biden said, this would really destabilize any faith that people have โ
CLAY: It would be a total crazy thing.
BUCK: โ foundational rule of law, right? Because to your point, Clay, okay. The top tax rate federally, 39%, 35%, all right, the only certainties in life, death and taxes, right?
CLAY: Yeah.
BUCK: We know weโre gonna be paying taxes. If youโre a 35% guy fortunate enough to be last year and now, youโre a 39% guy, itโs annoying, but the shift that youโre talking about now that would happen in law would be โ
CLAY: Yes.
BUCK: โ well, letโs say a medical doctor who provided an abortion for somebody did a year ago is now considered murder, but after the fact, they canโt write in that prosecution.
CLAY: Youโre constantly shifting back and forth.
BUCK: โ so youโre gonna be now having people who say, the law now says what I did a year ago is murder and I can go to prison. We have Governor Noem on. I think in South Dakota you could face up to a life sentence nor abortion, I believe, or maybe itโs 35 years. Weโll ask about some of this but in some of these states these trigger laws are very serious. So then the federal law could come in, โOh, no, itโs fine! Everyone has a right to this for all three trimesters,โ and then Republicans take charge and itโs, โOh, no, actually you can go to prison for decades for this.โ
Cycles of that will destroy all faith in the rule of law, and everybody should understand that. We know that states have different laws. And they stay with those laws. The federal government coming in to make all 50 states keep shifting? Itโs just untenable. Thatโs why this idea they had of setting up abortion clinics in national parksโฆ What do they think happens when Republicans take control of the Congress?
CLAY: Itโs all emblematic, I think, of the craziness that weโre in. If you allow an exemption to the filibuster for purposes of abortion, Republicans are certainly going to, first of all, respond in kind on abortion. But eventually once you create these exceptions, the filibusterโs gone.
BUCK: Yeah, Democrats are such a bunch of whiny little brats on this. They wanted to use the exception of filibuster for H.R. 1, for voting rights; so important; so important.
CLAY: Thatโs right. Theyโre constantly trying to craft these exceptions.
BUCK: Everything they want is so important that itโs the one-time break in the filibuster. Seriously, itโs like weโre negotiating with little children who are being terrorists.
CLAY: It also is just going to create a huge mess. So the end result โ and Biden had to know this, Buck โ is that Sinema and Manchin arenโt changing their positions, and barring some totally unexpected Republican support for this filibuster change, then what Biden said in Spain earlier today was essentially wiped out as a policy imperative within 20 minutes, almost, of him saying it, meaning that heโs really just saying this to try to placate the left wing in his party, knowing, in my opinion, the practical reality of it occurring is virtually zero.
BUCK: I think itโs also bluster from Biden, right? I mean, this is just โ
CLAY: Yeah.
BUCK: โ what else is he going to say? What has he delivered for the left-wing base other than a lot of inflation? People donโt remember the checks they were getting six months ago, a year ago, right? That wholeโฆ Any goodwill from the inflation machinery that he put in place is gone.
CLAY: Yeah.
BUCK: Thatโs why now what is he offering? Heโs offering Jan. 6 โ which weโll talk more about the latest with that later on โ and, what, this?
CLAY: I think itโs such a well said argument. And this is one that I believe Republicans need to be hammering more. Buck, Biden failed with a House and Senate backing him. And not only did he fail in terms of creating the worst economy and maybe the worst overall environment in our country in most of our lives, the only reason itโs not worse is because members of his own party refuse to allow him to do what he wanted to do! Democrats were a disaster, but they were only protected from beingโฆ Whatโs even worse than a disaster? A cataclysm? I donโt even know. Itโs a good question. What is a worse word than a disaster?
BUCK: A Bidenism.
CLAY: (laughing) The only reason itโs not an apocalyptic is because they actually opposed what he was trying to do, Buck, and I donโt think Republicans are making that argument strong enough because Bidenโs gonna say, โOh, well, grrr, I didnโt want my own what I wanted to get done.โ No, if you had, everything would be worse. Everything would be so much worse if he had actually gotten what he wanted.
BUCK: And all of the things that he could do, and that the federal government could do to improve the situation in a material way โ to bring down the cost of energy, to bring down inflation, to increase economic growth, to secure the border, to bring down violent crime across the country, all the things that would work to do that โ Democrats are ideologically opposed to. They donโt like the solutions, so we keep suffering as a result.
CLAY: He told us all, Buck, we were gonna have a โwinter of deathโ and tried to make sure that 84 million people had to get the covid shot, and the only thing that stopped that from happening was the Supreme Court!
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