BUCK: Walls work, as the most obvious thing imaginable you can point to so many of them throughout history. Hadrian’s Wall, the Great Wall of China, the walls around Pelosi’s mansion in San Francisco, et cetera, et cetera. A lot of walls throughout history, and we were told for a period of time, under the Trump administration by the media that, “Walls don’t do anything at the border,” to which I was fascinated; so I went to the border. I went to the border at San Diego, Tijuana sector.

I went down to the Rio Grande sector and went to… Gosh, I can’t even remember all the places I’ve been along the border. There are four different spots I’ve been, all of which had some form of barrier in place. And every time, every time I was there I asked Border Patrol, “Hey, do you guys…?” and gals, of course. “Do you think this wall works?” And it’s a barrier, fence, sometimes double fence. “Does this help?” And they would all say, “No question this is helpful. There’s no doubt this is helpful,” because people will say, “Oh, well, they can still get through.”

Okay. Do you have locks on your doors even though a really dedicated burglar could probably still get through? Do you have an alarm system even though somebody who is skilled enough may in fact be able to get in? I mean, look, my own scooter. They broke the lock on my scooter and took it. Does that mean I don’t lock up my little Scooteroo on the streets? Of course not. Gotta lock it up. Here is Karine Jean-Pierre of the Biden regime telling everybody, “Yeah, okay. So we gotta fix the Trump wall in the Arizona sector. There’s some holes in it and there’s a lot of traffic going through of illegals, so we’re gonna have to actually patch up those holes.”

Karine Jean-Pierre says Biden is filling in major gaps in the border wall (i.e., building the wall) because he is “trying to save lives.” pic.twitter.com/q9KFOzluJf

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) July 29, 2022

BUCK: Ah, actually they’re patching up some places in the wall, if you want to know what’s going on here. They can say, “We’re cleaning up the mess,” they can have whatever talking points they want out of this White House, but guess what? It turns out that when you have one area that is just a highway for illegals and there is some structure there that is a barrier, you can make that a better structure if it has any holes in it — or actually, the real issue is gaps in it, and then it is harder for the got-aways. It is harder for the cartels to one run their drugs and their human smuggling operation, and it’s even harder for people to surrender to Border Patrol because they can’t get to the U.S. side to turn themselves in and pretend they’re asylum seekers. So, walls do work.

Not a shock, unless you’re a Biden voter, which, “Wait a second! They’re making Trump’s wall?” Yes. They’re helping out with a piece of Trump’s wall.

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BUCK: I had one other thing about the fences and border walls and all of that. As you know, we just heard a moment ago, I had the audio played for you of Karine Jean-Pierre saying (chuckling) that they’re cleaning up the mess of the Trump administration by building part of the wall. It’s really amazing. They could say whatever they want but they’re building part of Trump’s wall. And it’s because border walls, of course, work. They’re filling in some of these gaps here. And just so we can all understand how it is, ’cause you may still come across a lib who goes, “Well, I don’t think that they work!” and yell at you. Say, “Well, hold on a second. They do work, actually.”

Say, “I don’t know, buddy. You know, you get a big ladder, where you get some of those things that make the cuts in the fence, whatever those are, and you get right through.” I’ve been… I’ve seen arrests happen at the wall where people have tried to make a total run for it. They’re not surrounding. I have actually been there when Border Patrol has to pull up on a bunch of guys. It’s single, adult males sometimes in a group who do that, the got-aways, usually. But sure enough, you know what happens when you try to scale a fence that’s I forget how many feet it is, 18 feet tall or 20 feet tall or whatever?

It depends on the fence and where we are along the border. But you know what happens when you try to get up that and there are sensors and there are cameras? Border Patrol goes, “Oh, there’s somebody who’s illegally trying to scale the fence,” and you know what happens when the person tries to come down the other side — and they’re usually coming down slowly because if they don’t they can really hurt themselves? Border Patrol’s waiting for them. But if you have nothing there, if there’s just a line that’s not even a visible line really in the dirt and somebody can just make a run for it?

That difference, especially around urban areas of the country where there’s urban places along the border, right, like El Paso… I was at El Paso. On the other side of El Paso right there you can see Mexico very easily. And if they can get from the Mexican side across the border there, you’re in the city of El Paso in the blink of an eye, right? You’re actually able to get through very, very quickly. And once you’re there, once you leave, what is it, Juarez on the other side, right, to get into El Paso, you’re done. You’re now in the U.S.

Yes, Juarez across the way — which was, I think at one point, the per capita murder capital of the Western Hemisphere. So the drug cartel wars there were among some of the most horrific stuff seen anywhere in Mexico back in the early 2010s, 2011, 2012, around there. But of course the fence works, the wall works. It does also remind me of this time. I went out to observe many years ago some of the military counterinsurgency training at Fort Irwin. I don’t know how many of you have ever been to Fort Irwin, but it’s the nearest…

I mean, Barstow feels like a metropolis compared to Fort Irwin because that’s the closest city, and it’s not that close. They had a desert tortoise problem at the fort. Now, here’s what happened. You had this long road going into the fort, and they figured… Well, the environmentalists got very upset, and the military, Pentagon ended up spending — you could look this up; it’s all out there in the public — I think it was $70 million to try to deal with the tortoise, the desert tortoise issue. And the problem was that they had this road going into the base — I remember I got this briefing from the base commander about this.

Just, you know, kind of like, “Hey, here’s where the bathrooms are a, here’s where the chow hall is. And, by the way, let’s talk about the desert tortoise for a little bit.” So you had this road going in to Fort Irwin and you had the desert tortoise and the problem is that sometimes the military version and if they were in any kind of a convoy, the tortoise would go splat, basically. Which is bad. We don’t want tortoises to go splat. So what did they do? They built a little fence — kind of like a wall — alongside the road. They built this fence alongside the road. You think, “Problem solved,” right?

Well, actually, no, because, unfortunately, the desert tortoise isn’t the most maneuverable of animals, and to it would go into the fence and it would kind of get stuck, and then predators — particularly I think it was a species of hawk or vulture — would pick them off really easily. So you almost created this buffet line of tortoise in this fence all along this road going into this big military base. It’s huge too. I mean, they drop all kinds of ordnance out there. It’s a huge national training somewhere, and Fort Irwin’s a massive complex. So they had to get better with the fencing, and so then they actually created little tortoise tunnels.

And the tortoise tunnels were angled in such a way that they would go under the roadway so that a tortoise — even if it was leaning into the fence — would go under the roadway, would stay off the roadway, and this only cost us — along with plans to move tortoise out of the range areas, et cetera — something like $70 million. So fences work, but they’re not perfect, is the point, right? Whether you’re a human or a tortoise there are ways around a fence or there are ways the fence could be a problem.

But the Biden administration ,sure enough, down in the Arizona sector… We got Blake Masters joining next hour so I’ll certainly ask him about this. They are completing a part of the Trump wall because of course walls work. That was a remarkable time, right? When they were simultaneously yelling about the Russia collusion didn’t exist and shouting at you that walls work, it was, for me, somewhat reminiscent of some of the slogans, the absurd and mindless slogans that the Jacobin, the Jacobin revolutionaries were saying to each other in revolutionary era France. They are all about reason. You say, “Well, hold on a second. You’re all about reason? We gotta change the calendars, we gotta change the clocks, we gotta change, that doesn’t seem reasonable at all.” “Shut up!” “This is what we were told, and we’re smart. We’re the good people. So we do it.” It didn’t make any sense then, doesn’t make any sense now, but here we are.