CLAY: Some people in media are finding out, Buck, what you and I hear all the time, that trust in media is at an all-time low. And it just keeps getting worse. And the fact that journalists don’t realize this, the Blue Check Brigade, as I like to call ’em sitting around on Twitter all day, here’s NBC’s Katy Tur discussing the fact that everybody hates them.

.@KatyTurNBC: “The trust in media, in newspapers and television, is hitting an all time low. People don’t trust us. They don’t believe us, and it makes me wonder if this job —as I’m currently doing it— is effective, but if it’s doing more harm than good.” https://t.co/eUKLZPCUHm pic.twitter.com/PfjXakQThZ

— The Hill (@thehill) July 17, 2022

BUCK: Ooh, I have a good answer for it. Yes, she is doing more harm than good. Yes, the people who are a part of Democrat-aligned media who don’t tell you that that’s what they’re doing are lying to you, they are inherently engaged in dishonesty. CNN — MSNBC is a little bit more honest about its political leanings.

But NBC News, for example, NBC News is lib news. CBS, lib news, New York Times, lib news. If they were at least honest about it we could start to have a more forthright conversation, but what the public has seen is that this has been — it had to be trending in this direction for a long time.

Trump broke these institutions. They no longer could even cling to the fiction that they were nonpartisan, just down-the-center journos. Right? I mean, CNN turned into an anti-Trump network. That’s all it was doing all day long. And then they started to admit it. They started to say, you know, at a time of so much danger to the country, it would be immoral for us not to be opposed to half the country’s preferred president, which is exactly what they did.

CLAY: What also everybody out there saw is social media over time reveals you for what you are. And the idea that these people who you saw on social media behaving irrationally and directly in allegiance with often the Democrat Party, that they would claim that their newspapers were calling it fair, you all saw behind — it’s like the Wizard of Oz when suddenly you see, wait a minute, who’s actually manipulating everything? The great and powerful Oz.

Well, all of this media you saw, you saw behind the curtain and the reality of what exactly was going on. And I think so much of media is — and you know, Buck, ’cause you’ve been involved and certainly I have too — so many people all believe the same thing and they all live in the same place and their kids all go to the same schools and their social circles are also similar that they really in New York and L.A. have very little understanding or comprehension of what people in the rest of America live like, the so-called flyover country.

And we talk to people of all variety of persuasions all over the country every single day, and I think we have an understanding way better of our audience that most of these journalists do of theirs.

BUCK: Yes. The journalist class at the corporate media outlets is overwhelmingly comprised of people who — they had a pathway to certain liberal institutions — obviously, the colleges in the Northeast and some of the more elite on the U.S. News ranking schools out there. And they effectively thought that they need to explain to the rest of the country what’s really going on because they’re almost born to this, they’re the anointed.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And what you’ve seen is that a lot of people — I mean, you know, you did something before you got into media. I did something before I got into media. It’s important to have actually just showed up at a place where people were paying you money tied job and see how that goes for a while before you think that you should explain life to individuals all across the country, right?

You know, maybe spend some time in some places where there’s real deprivation, where there’s really risk in day-to-day life and then you get a very different sense of what reality is.

CLAY: Yeah. And it’s staggering to me how still tone-deaf — you mentioned Trump. Trump broke these organizations. But the true incredible irony is, they became everything that they told you Trump was.

BUCK: Yep.

CLAY: They became authoritarians. They refused to brook dissent on any issues. The media became the tyrant version of Trump that they claimed he was.

BUCK: They kept saying they were fighting authoritarianism. And if you look at any authoritarian regime, they don’t have 90%, 95% of the media against the regime. The threat of authoritarianism, my friends, comes from right now, where they’re all lapdogs for the Biden administration. That’s what we’re actually fighting against here on this show.