BUCK: The Biden Administration continuing to have a rough day. It feels like every day is a rough day for the Biden Administration. Joe is apparently very unhappy. This is the story that’s being put out there now. Kind of strikes me that some of this may just be spin. Joe Biden is shocked, shocked to find out that the American people think that he’s doing a crappy job and that his approval ratings at this stage are actually below the approval ratings of his predecessor, Donald Trump.

But keep in mind, Joe Biden has, effectively, a corporate media apparatus that 95 percent of the people and 95 percent of the time is giving him a back rub and participation awards, just because “no mean tweets” or whatever. Donald Trump had a media apparatus that completely lit whatever credibility they thought they had on fire, though it wasn’t very much to begin with, in order to create narratives of panic and fear at a time when the country was actually doing really well. We’re at peace. No huge war in Europe. Didn’t have forced inflation in 40 years.

You think back, what were the big, scary things about the Trump year? It was the fantasy of Russia coalition, which was essentially the bogeyman hiding under someone’s bed or in the closet. It didn’t exist really. But Democrats were terrified of it. And they had to come up with things to make the public think it was in such bad shape even though it was in great shape.

Biden is very upset now that people realize the emperor has no clothes, this whole thing is a joke. What are they going to do? We’ve been saying all along they don’t have a good narrative to share, they don’t have a good story to tell. So there will be a lot of focus on this January 6, which this has been the most predictable thing in American politics, I think, for the last 18 months.

And they’re going to make this not just about January 6, but also about Trump as much as possible to try to make the midterms about Donald Trump.

I’ve got to say these former federal prosecutors who show up in places like MSNBC and CNN have done more to damage the public’s perception of federal prosecutors as serious and worthwhile people than anything else you could ever conjure.

Here’s some former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner saying that the real target of the January 6th investigation is, you guessed it, Donald Trump.

KIRSCHNER: Clearly, Donald Trump is the ultimate target. It seems to me that what the DOJ is now doing is working its way up the criminal food chain. Why is it that we now have the kind of flurry of activity, could it be because the Department of Justice has gotten wind of precisely what the American people are going to see beginning on June 9 regarding the crimes of Donald Trump and his co-conspirators? And people are going to be screaming bloody murder, why haven’t they been indicted? It feels to me like all of a sudden DOJ is in full sprint anticipating what we’re all about to see.

BUCK: This guy is delusional, Clay, and in a couple days they’re going to have their January 6 prime time hearing. Is anyone going to watch.

CLAY: Nobody’s going to care. And I don’t mean that’s because nobody cares about January 6th. I mean they’ve had 18 months that they have dragged out January 6th.

They’re going to put this on in prime time, which feels like a desperate attempt for attention, in the middle of what is going to be a busy summer graduation season. People just have a lot of other things going on in their life.

Now, super left-wing people who are still obsessed with Donald Trump are going to pay attention to this. And there’s going to be a desperate attempt to try to connect Donald Trump to the midterm elections.

And indeed, Buck, one of the storylines that’s out there is that Trump may decide to declare his 2024 campaign officially underway. maybe before we even get through the summer months.

Now, there’s the dispute. There’s articles written from a variety of different perspectives. My advice on that would be for Trump to stay out of the fray, allow the midterms to happen. By out of the fray, I mean announcing a presidential campaign.

I think going out and doing rallies and endorsing candidates that he believes makes the most sense are imminently reasonable. But I just don’t think, Buck, there’s that many persuadable people out there who believe that this January 6th storyline is going to fundamentally change anything.

And I would just say this, with all of the leaks that have come out of that committee, do you expect me to believe that they kept some grand unbelievable, incredible, explosively revelatory details not public yet?

They’ve been leaking to the New York Times and the Washington Post and MSNBC and CNN, the usual suspects, about this investigation for over a year now, every little detail, text messages from media members. They tried to hold guys in contempt who haven’t been willing to testify. And I just don’t buy into the fact that there’s enough discipline on this committee that there’s something that we haven’t seen.

Now, I think they’ll try to address it, sizzle it up, try to sell it to all of the gullible and culpable and particularly anti-Trump media out there. I know there will be an aggressive attempt made here. But I don’t think there’s anything there.

I think, to use the phrase from the Obama Administration, this is now a nothing burger. People have moved on. They care about inflation. They care about the southern border. They care about, to some extent, the war going on in Ukraine and Russia right now. They care about the murder rate occurring in this country. January 6 is like the 30th or 40th most important thing, if that, in the country right now.

BUCK: I think they’ve created, and by they, I mean the Washington Post, the New York Times, MSNBC, CNN, etc., I think they’ve just created an expectation among their most consistent, hardcore viewers, which is completely synonymous with the Democrat base, the real left-wing Democrat base voter, they believe that this is important to them. They’ve been promised they will get these hearings.

And so in my mind, at best, they think with these hearings they’re speaking to 20 percent of the country. I think about 20 percent of the voting age population of this country that is far left democrat is essentially insane and unreachable.

They’re terrified of having kids because of climate change. Did you see Ezra Klein, because he has the superficial trappings of the intellectual, people are, like, he must be so smart, saying that the most common question he gets asked by people is whether or not it’s responsible for them to have children because of the carbon footprint and climate change.

I don’t know this guy, never talked to him, I want to ask this guy: do you hang out with lunatics? Do you hang out with people who are that deranged? Apparently, yes, because that’s the most common question he gets asked. Those people, what do you think the crossover is between, oh, my gosh, I’m so scared about having kids because of the climate change impact at my — out of 7 billion people in the world, my —

CLAY: Your individual decision to have a kid is going to change —

BUCK: To have sex, decline it. It’s irresponsible. The cross over between too scared to have kids because of climate change and think the January 6 hearings, which are going to happen in a couple of days, are prime time important for the saving of the republic, I think it’s 100 percent.

CLAY: It’s an overlap. It’s like two different circles that are the same color that you can’t tell are different. But this is just an easy question for everybody out there. We’re effectively into the summer. It’s going to be Thursday evening. People like to start celebrating the weekend a little bit early.

Who is sitting and watching a prime time congressional hearing focused on something that happened 18 months ago for a guy that isn’t even president right now and isn’t announced to be running in 2024 yet? It’s so backwards-looking.

In the say way, Buck, you and I have said, hey, elections really are, for non-incumbents, a referendum on the future, if you’re an incumbent you should be held responsible to whatever occurred on your watch.

My biggest concern about Trump is I think Trump will watch the hearings, and I think he will enjoy them. My concern with his campaign in 2024 is not the fact that he’s a better candidate than Joe Biden. He clearly is, but that was the case in 2020 as well.

It’s that Trump running lets Joe Biden or whoever the Democrat is that ends up as the standard bearer off the hook for how awful they’ve been in their job because we end up arguing about the 2020 election results as opposed to the concrete election consequences, which are what has happened with Joe Biden in office.

So 2024, to me, it wipes out everything January 6, everything 2020. It’s all about who’s got the better vision going forward and a referendum on Democrats having control of the government.

My concern is if you allow yourself to get dragged back into the past, that’s a more fertile terrain for Democrats to fight on. And I think that’s what January 6 is all about because it’s effectively — we saw Gavin Newsom do this when he tried to turn Larry Elder into Donald Trump. That’s the only campaign strategy that it seems Democrats have right now.

BUCK: This is definitely not going to work; hey, the economy is actually like, you know, it’s really good, guys, you just don’t know it.

HARWOOD: He was talking about this positive Jobs Report, which showed continued showing job growth, 390,000 jobs, no sign of recession, moderating wave growth, expanded labor force participation, which indicates some cooling of inflation pressures. So for the moment the White House thinks this is a report in the right direction and an economy moving in the right direction.

BUCK: CNN can try and spin all day on behalf of the regime, but the people that are looking at a doubling of gas prices in the last 12 months, they’re like, no, I don’t think so; it’s not going to fly.

CLAY: Not only that, I believe I’m correct that the new inflation data is coming out on Friday. So you’re telling me that on Thursday evening, Democrats’ focus is going to be 18 months in the past on January 6, that they are going to be having a hearing that evening, and the next morning, early in that morning, we’re going to get the newest inflation data?

Whatever happens on Thursday, inflation is going to be the story all day Friday, because it’s still, news flash, going to be awful.

BUCK: I just tell everybody out there, because I understand the sentiment. So the Democrats are going to do this whole “it’s about the sanctity of our elections and about the foundation of our republic.” And, yeah, obviously people should not have attacked cops that day — and it was not just a mistake, it was a blunder, because obviously, as we see, they’ve capitalized on the riot that day. It wasn’t an insurrection. The one riot that Republicans were actually responsible for from an entire summer of riots.

It’s not like the entire Republican Party had been calling for endless riots for months and months, as Democrats did for the months leading up to this.

But I would say it’s amazing how much the Democrats don’t understand: After they tried a soft coup against Trump with the Russia collusion lie for four straight years, basically, after their primary means of opposition to the Trump presidency was a concerted effort by the FBI, the Democrat Party, the intelligence community and the Democrat-aligned corporate media to create this Russian collusion lie, to get a special counsel to grind away at the Trump Administration, with the heinous political dirty trick, do you they think we want to be sitting around to be lectured about January 6th? I have a few responses but I can’t say them on radio.

CLAY: I think it’s going to be particularly tone deaf because, again, Thursday night, oh, my goodness look at how bad January 6 was. Friday morning, before most people are even at work, the latest inflation data is going to be out.

So whatever that storyline that they create on Thursday evening with their prime time January 6 hearing is going to immediately disappear as everyone reacts to what’s going on with inflation. It’s just gonna make them feel and seem even more tone deaf than they actually are, which is saying something.