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Clay and Buck

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Clay Predicts the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard Verdict

1 Jun 2022

CLAY: The Johnny Depp, Amber Heard trial verdict is going to be read at 3 p.m. Eastern. So that means it’s gonna come on right after we go off the air.

BUCK: Awww!

CLAY: Aw! We’re gonna have to talk about it. This is awful.

BUCK: Can I get your prediction, though, Clay? What do you think? Who won?

CLAY: I think the jury is… Yeah, good question. I think the jury is going to find both of these people relatively unlikable because they’re both super wealthy, regardless of which side you came down on, they did not have a good relationship, and it was toxic in both directions. So I think the most likely outcome is that basically neither one of them get much of an award for defamation.

It’s basically like a pox on both your houses. So I would expect that they’ll give some sort of de minimis award, maybe a hundred K to Johnny Depp or something like that and Amber Heard gets 40 or 50 K, because I do think the damages are more significant to Depp’s career than they have been to Amber Heard’s career, but I’m not sure that either party has proven defamation claims against the other party.

BUCK: So this is a little bit like Kissinger with Iraq fighting Iran: “I hope they can both lose.”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: This is a six-week trial. So, imagine, Buck, that you are taken out of your normal life for six weeks, you make $50,000 a year, and you hear from two people who are super rich and hate each other. Are you really thinking, “Oh, I really identify more with one super rich person than the other one,” or are you thinking, “Both of these guys and girls are toxic”?

BUCK: Also, I would just be so resentful having had to waste my time as a human being to sit there and sift through this.

CLAY: Six weeks!

BUCK: Although, you know what? Actually, I’m sure some of them will probably start doing some interviews, book deals. I’m not thinking about it from that perspective. It doesn’t matter in the cosmos who wins this thing. It doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of life. But they might be able to monetize it a little bit.

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