BUCK: We’re not letting it go. Just because the Democrat-aligned media doesn’t seem to think it’s a big deal that Hillary gave the order, for those of you who are a few —

CLAY: She ordered the Code Red.

BUCK: That’s exactly where I was going.

CLAY: Did I steal your line?

BUCK: It’s all right. It’s all right, Travis.

CLAY: It’s a great film. It’s a great film.

BUCK: Mr. Clay Travis. It is a great film. She did order the Code Red and we all know it now and it’s come out in court and Robby Mook is the guy who has said this now, ’cause they’re looking at this, and you could go to prison if you lie under oath, and so when they say, “Do the communications exist? Do you know? Did Hillary Clinton actually order this thing?” which is remarkable, because if you just line this up — and we’ll talk more about that in a moment.

If you were to line it up, our opposition at this stage to the Biden administration — when I say opposition, yeah, I oppose a lot of the ideas the Biden administration. If they had been super successful, I’d be sitting here saying, “Well, you know, we gotta come up with some ideas to maybe keep improving on their good stuff that they’ve done.” Fortunately for us, everything we said about how these were stupid ideas was correct and they’re ruining the economy and making all kinds of mistakes.

But it’s at least rooted in the results being bad. If you go back to what it was like at this stage going into the midterms for Donald Trump, the opposition to Trump was 90% that the Democrat elites hated him and Russia collusion, some version of “he’s a traitor, Russia,” and all this stuff. It was a lie. The whole thing was a lie and a fabrication, and we know this. The Durham probe is still going. At least it will get… I’ve always said this. Don’t expect anyone important to go to prison. Like, anyone who writes me, “Hillary’s going to prison!” No. No. She’s not. She’s not going to prison, folks.

CLAY: It might kill her as a candidate, though, because the Democrats, if Biden doesn’t run — and that’s a big discussion we could have, because I do think this is significant even though they’re trying to pretend it isn’t.

BUCK: So, it’s also fascinating to watch the way that, you know, different… It’s like in sports different teams match up well against certain teams even if —

CLAY: Yeah.

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BUCK: My confidence that Donald Trump would beat Hillary… If for some reason she became the nominee, I mean, I got a 90% confidence interval that Donald Trump will beat Hillary Clinton if he runs against her again. So I think the Democrats are probably, at some level, aware of that. But anyway, she is clearly, clearly behind in a meaningful way the Russia-collusion situation, which also in this era we live in, Clay, of… You know, they’ve brought back the disinformation czar.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Just so everybody knows, they haven’t given up. This is what they always do. They had to back off because Soviet Mary Poppins was not gonna get it done. But now they have… The spoonful of sugar was not gonna make the disinformation go down. But now they have Chertoff. The Biden administration has announced that Michael Chertoff, former DHS head, I think under the Bush administration — who is a coauthor of Patriot Act, by the way. Ew. I don’t know. He will now be the disinformation board head. This doesn’t make me feel better. Yeah, we made fun of Soviet Mary Poppins, but I don’t want any disinformation board inside the government. They shouldn’t be doing this.

CLAY: No doubt. And, by the way — and we need to continue to hammer this. I read the New York Times every day, Buck, ’cause I think it’s important to know what is being said by both sides of the equation.

BUCK: It’s the lib playbook. Gotta know.

CLAY: That’s right. You know they still haven’t covered Robby Mook admitting under oath that Hillary Clinton is the source of the leak? They haven’t written a single article in it, in the New York Times, not in the Saturday edition of the newspaper, not in the Sunday edition of the newspaper. Maybe it showed up Monday; I haven’t read the Monday edition fully yet.

But you want to talk about what disinformation is to tie in with what you’re talking about? It’s choosing what you can also cover or not cover. And if you’re a die-hard reader of the New York Times, you don’t even know that Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager testified under oath last week that she okayed the release of this information alleging that Donald Trump and Russia were connected. She was that source. Out there. You don’t know it.

BUCK: It’s the greatest political disinformation campaign in living memory.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And the Democrats who want a disinformation czar to be doing their bidding from within the government perpetrated against Donald Trump that disinformation — a soft coup by the deep state, by the Democrats.

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BUCK: “Hillary Did It.” That’s the headline in the Wall Street Journal of the weekend. I think that really gets to it. This is what we need to know here, friends, because for years we had a situation where Democrats were insistent that Hillary had no knowledge of this. There was Christopher Steele, and he was paid through a law firm but it was really based on some very important work inside the intelligence community and – No, that was all smoke and mirrors. It was all bullcrap, okay?

This was a political dirty trick run against Donald Trump that actually was used not only to send some of his associates to prison for, in some cases, incredibly minor infractions and very short periods of time, fortunately. But was also the primary means used to undermine the Trump presidency; to slow down the Trump presidency, and effectively the process of the special counsel was the punishment. The process was the punishment.

You had this specter hanging over the Trump White House of Mueller and Rachel Maddow, among others, built whole careers, it seems, for years on this having to do with the Kremlin, that having to do with the Kremlin. And we just want to tell you right now, it was all a lie. There was no Trump-Russia collusion. It never existed. And you’ve known that for a while. The Mueller probe obviously found nothing.

One of the reasons that I think Bill Barr deserves, actually, a lot of credit when he was the attorney general, was he saw that the then obstruction case when they had no collusion, it was gonna be, oh, but obstruction of the non-collusion from the Mueller report was supposed to take down the Trump presidency. He stepped in and said, “No, no, no, we’re not allowing that nonsense to happen here.”

And, Clay, now we have the additional information of Hillary Clinton. This is under oath, in court from one of her closest aides, one of the most important. Her campaign manager, Robby Mook, said that this was Hillary Clinton. This is now a point in time where you can just look at this one story and say, if you choose to believe the Democrat aligned media, you are choosing to be lied to and to be fed propaganda day in and day out.

Because, remember, not only are they Democrat propagandists on this issue and many others, they still pretend that they’re objective journalists, that they’re just speaking truth to power. They don’t even… forget about them just lying on this, Clay, right, they don’t even accept that they are partisans in this process.

CLAY: We criticize a lot of media. Take a moment here to just say, Buck, the Wall Street Journal is the bravest newspaper in America and has been throughout the entirety of this covid mess. We’re gonna talk to Dr. Marty Makary here in a minute. Thankfully, they were willing to feature people like Dr. Marty Makary on their editorial page. I am reading right now, Saturday morning, popped open the newspaper, right there, “Hillary Clinton Did It” is the Wall Street Journal’s editorial board article.

And then the subheading is, “Her 2016 Campaign Manager Says she Approved a Plan to Plant a False Russia Claim with a Reporter.” And I just want to read the first paragraph for everybody out there ’cause it just rams home this perfectly. “The Russia-Trump collusion narrative of 2016 and beyond was a dirty trick for the ages, and now we know it came from the top—candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton. That was the testimony Friday by 2016 Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook in federal court, and while this news is hardly a surprise, it’s still bracing to find her fingerprints on the political weapon.” That is the opening paragraph of the Wall Street Journal editorial board.

BUCK: And just to give everyone a sense of how far up and how definitive the lies were, a little of a throwback here, here is, for example, Nancy Pelosi a few years back during the Trump presidency saying straight up, I mean, there was Russia-Trump collusion.

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BUCK: The Trump-Russia assault on our democracy. That’s the sitting Speaker of the House, everybody. A shameless and disgraceful liar who, by the way, is now banned from getting communion by the archbishop in San Francisco. This should have happened a long time ago because she’s an abortion extremist in public life. I’ve been saying not only should she be banned from communion, they should excommunicate her, but they won’t do that.

CLAY: Here’s the deal. And I think you said it last segment, and we talked about it on Friday when this news broke while we were on the air. This is definitive proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that the biggest and most successful disinformation campaign in American political history was Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump alleging Russia collusion. Unless you think Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager is lying under oath about her giving the code red to release this information, then we have smoking-gun evidence now — beyond a shadow of a doubt, without a shred of uncertainty — that Hillary Clinton was behind this.

And that she directly and her campaign, while claiming that they were avatars of democratic excellence and that they were standing up for all the best things of American historical cogency, that in reality she was trying to destroy Donald Trump based on a lie and that she was the source for it. And, by the way, as upset as I think it’s fair to be at Hillary Clinton for peddling dirty campaign tricks, I’m actually far more angry at the media because it doesn’t surprise me that a politician who has dreamt her entire career about being president of the United States would engage in dirty politics in order to try to become president.

I wish everybody had great virtue, but that doesn’t surprise me in the American political universe. The fact that all of this media lapped up her lies and gave themselves Pulitzer Prizes and everybody got multimillion-dollar book deals and they spent years peddling this guy’s lie and that the New York Times, Buck — “All the news that’s fit to print,” supposedly the absolute apex of American journalism — still has not even covered the campaign manager under oath and the comments that he made, is an utter indictment of the idea that we have any journalist almost left in this country.

BUCK: If you believe that the media should operate under some integrity when it comes to fact and fiction, it is impossible to think that the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, MSNBC maintain any integrity at this point after what they did, on this one issue alone. Let’s all remember, because I know it feels like it was a long time ago, the Trump-Russia collusion story was for, really, three years, the single biggest news story that the American media covered, period.

This wasn’t just a thing. We’re not reaching back into the obscurity of history to find something. This was a national obsession of the Democrats for years, and it did, unfortunately, have effect on the Trump administration. It created a siege mentality for the Trump White House. Now that we see that Joe Biden is an imbecile, the people around him are like the faculty lounge lunatics who don’t know how the real world works and they’re ruining the economy and they’re making a mess of everything.

We also I think have a greater appreciation for Trump did have some really good ideas and was executing on them and didn’t have the full eight years that he should have had — whole other conversation — and in part you think about how instead of attacking his administration whether it’s the economy or whatever on the merits, they conjured up this massive lie. And the only explanation I can come up with now for how anybody can still read the New York Times and think they’re being told…

You’re doing it to see what the enemy’s playbook is, but for people… I read the New York Times a lot too, and the Washington Post, but it’s for that reason. I want to see what the lunatics are telling the lunatics. You can’t actually think that these people have any integrity, if they won’t come forward and say, “I’m sorry we got this wrong.” But part of me I think, Clay, is that they’re not sorry, because really at the heart of this, whether it’s Hillary Clinton herself all the way through many of the biggest news organizations in the country, they got away with it.

They used this as a weapon against Trump. Did they ever even really believe at the end of the day — some of them did, I’m sure — a lot of them just said, “Yeah, this is just like what they did to Kavanaugh.” Only a moron could have actually believed — Trump told me in 2018 in the Oval Office, Clay, he said this. “Listen, collusion is not even a good idea. It doesn’t make any sense. It’s not like this was some grand scheme that would have been brilliant.” He’s like, “This the dumbest plan on the planet.” The president said to me, and I’m like, “Yeah, sir, you’re right.”

CLAY: That’s all true, and I want to… The media’s failure here, New York Times in particular, it’s also a sign of where we are, Buck. And here’s what I mean by that. Yes, there should be accountability. Should be accountability for Hillary Clinton. But the media, there should be accountability. And do you know the people who should be holding the media accountable are? The audience that consumes that media, because they disinform that audience. But here’s the reality. The reason why the New York Times isn’t covering this story is because they know their audience doesn’t want to be told that they were wrong —

BUCK: Of course.

CLAY: — and that they are consuming an outlet that got something this big wrong because it directly attacks what they believe, which is we are the virtuous ones reading the real truth and all those red state rubes and all those Trump deplorables are the idiots. And here they are, the ones who were on the wrong side of the history.

BUCK: I think we’ve also entered very clearly the Harry Reid era of Democrat media, if you will. Remember when Harry Reid said he made this completely outlandish accusation — if anyone in the GOP has been paying their taxes I think for a long time, it’s probably Mitt Romney, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Probably sends a thank you letter to the IRS after he’s done paying his taxes. He said Mitt Romney hasn’t paid taxes in 10 years. And when he was finally pushed on that, of course, just wasn’t true — like, that demonstrably untrue — you know Harry Reid’s response was, right? “He didn’t win, did he?” That is the attitude of the New York Times, CNN, MSNBC, Slate, The Nation, The Intercept, all these different Democrats — CBS, NBC, ABC, all the news organizations — that supposedly are bringing people the truth. The people working there and who run these places, overwhelmingly their attitude is, “Even if we got Russia-Trump collusion wrong, worth it, because it was a weapon we used against Trump. When what else are we gonna say? All this no big war is happening and great economy and freedom going on is awful.” What else were they gonna say?

CLAY: Look, if they would just acknowledge their rank partisanship and how much of activists they are, on some level I would at least respect it. I mean, like, MSNBC basically does this. But we get this unctuous, smarmy lecture from the New York Times and the Washington Post with their ridiculous “Democracy Dies in Darkness” headline that they suddenly embraced when Donald Trump became president. And what they are peddling is the biggest form of disinformation in modern American political history, Russia collusion.