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He’s On to Something: Kim Jong-un Bans Skinny Jeans

9 May 2022

CLAY: Buck, I saw this story and I thought, “Hey, this is a good one to finish off the show with.” So Kim Jong-un, dictatorial, authoritarian leader of North Korea, has decided that he is going to begin banning certain fashions that he finds to be unacceptable in his country, and among those fashions… (laughing) This is a real story. Among those fashions — I saw this and I was like, “Hey, you know what? Maybe Kim Jong-un’s got a point.”

In general, I disagree with most of what he says, but he might be right on this one. He says that skinny jeans are no longer appropriate to be worn in North Korea, and so it got me thinking: If you could ban anything, if you were in total control all of country and you decided you want to get involved in what was and what was not permissible…?

He’s also, by the way, has banned dyed hair. He has banned particular hair lengths and clothing that features “large foreign wording,” in addition to skinny jeans. So, Buck… (laughing) This is a quote, by the way: “The Youth League patrols are cracking down on young people who wear long hair down to their waist and those who dye their hair brown as well as people who wear clothes with large foreign letters and women who wear tight pants.” So this is a major onslaught here of Kim Jong-un. What would you ban?

BUCK: Very strange, Clay, ’cause in this country the commies in places like Brooklyn are the ones wearing the skinny jeans in general.

CLAY: Right. Right.

BUCK: So apparently this is a commie in North Korea who’s saying, “No more skinny jeans!” I would say, if we’re banning… See, I don’t even know what’s in fashion right now, so I can’t even say.

CLAY: Join the club. Yes.

BUCK: I’d have to go back quite aways. I’m a sweatshirt and, like, roomy pants kind of guy with my Wolf & Shepherd shoes, which are fantastic.

BUCK: But I gotta tell you, man, there are some times in the past where I’ve been like, “No, no, no. This is bad,” in the recent past. And this is, like, one of those things where, when I share an idea, like — I don’t know — maybe, like, when you shared your Batman movie review for the most recent Batman and one of us gets crushed over it.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Okay, that was me, everybody. But for some reason some people thought it was Clay. Do you remember the gaucho pants craze for women? It was, like, maybe 10 or 15 years ago. It was, like, very baggy, loose pants, and they were called gaucho pants. That was the worst female fashion trend I think I’ve ever seen in my life. It would be like if you cut off MC Hammer’s pants at the calf.

CLAY: Oh, I remember those. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

BUCK: Those are the ugliest, dumbest things I’ve ever seen in my life, I said at the time. People said, “Well, you don’t know fashion.” I’m like, “Right, but I also just know reality.” The mom jeans — and this is not an offense to the moms out there. A lot of moms out there listen to this show, you know, they’re in better shape than you or me, and they’re wearing jeans that, you know, look like they’re leggings. But I’m just saying the mom jeans that are up high on the waist —

CLAY: The 1980s —

BUCK: — super baggy —

CLAY: The 1980s return to —

BUCK: Super baggy jeans don’t look good on guys, on girls, on anybody, right? That was a bad look. That was a bad trend.

CLAY: I would ban… Here’s what I would ban: I would ban turtlenecks on men. I think the neck thing in general.

BUCK: Wait a second. What if you put a chain over it, though, Clay?

CLAY: Like, the… Yeah. No. I am one billion percent anti-turtleneck. So I would be… If I could ban anything apparel in America today, it would be the turtleneck. No one looks good in a turtleneck. It’s like, “Well, how cold is your neck?” You know, again this also ties in, I’m even more pro-scarf than I am turtleneck. There’s never been a point in time where I was like, “Hey, you know what? I’m kind of cold, but if I had my neck covered, I would be warm.” Like, it doesn’t work that way, right? So I’m anti-turtleneck. You either can wear a jacket, a hoodie or whatever. But I would go with the banning of all turtlenecks.

BUCK: There was a time when the turtleneck with the suit blazer was a thing that you had to wear.

CLAY: Awful look, yes.

BUCK: Now — unless you’re a Bulgarian nightclub owner with, like, a big Gucci belt buckle on — you’re probably not doing the turtleneck-and-blazer thing, or if you’re a Bond villain. I think Bond villains can pull off turtleneck and blazer as a general rule. But I’ll tell you right now, there is some folks listening who are turtleneck and blazer guys. That’s mostly a guy thing. Do you feel this way about women’s turtlenecks as well?

CLAY: I don’t… No. First of all, when I’ve seen the women’s turtleneck, usually it’s a pretty tight shirt, right? So, like, it’s a good look on a woman. I don’t think it’s a… I am only anti-turtlenecks on men.

BUCK: I just learned my lesson, too, because I had a guy call into my show years ago, Clay, who said something along the lines of, like, “Yoga pants are one of the greatest advances of Western civilization the last, you know, hundred years or something,” and I didn’t even say anything. The amount of emails I got! I got crushed just for letting this guy say it on the air because women thought it was very sexist. So I just think people should wear what makes them comfortable.

CLAY: I love yoga pants. I’m gonna go pick up my kids this afternoon, and I will be, like, the only person not wearing yoga with pants at the kid pickup.

BUCK: We gotta get you some Lululemon for guys, Clay. They make it. You’re fancy.

CLAY: They don’t make yoga pants for men, do they?

BUCK: They make Lululemon pants, which is a yoga company for men.

CLAY: Oh. Yeah, right. But they’re not, like… They’re not, like, really tight.

BUCK: Do I own a pair? I don’t know. Can neither confirm nor deny. I don’t even know about this stuff.

CLAY: (laughing) Just as long as do you don’t any turtlenecks —

BUCK: (laughing)

CLAY: — and God bless yoga pants.

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