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Vile Racist Shot Up NYC Subway, But You Won’t Hear About It

13 Apr 2022

CLAY: Continued fallout as the subway shooter in New York City is still at large now 24 hours after that incident. They have now named him officially a suspect and his photo is out being distributed widely. We have a large listenership in New York City and surrounding communities. In the event that he is still in that area, I’d encourage you to go be looking at those photos so you are aware of what this gentleman looks like.

And, in general, Buck, I am opposed to focusing on shooters and giving them a great deal of attention. But most of the time the mass shooter is not at large like this man is. And so we spent some time this morning going through a lot of the social media posts of this man.

We may have a couple of audio clips to eventually share with you. But, Buck, he is a vile, racist human being. I think that there is a very strong likelihood that his shooting attack was motivated by his racism, but because he is a black man, I question whether any of this will ever see the light of day, just like we saw in Waukesha with what happened in that shooting — sorry — that awful devastating attack —

BUCK: Vehicle attack at the parade.

CLAY: — SUV, yeah. And just for a moment think about how this story would be being covered if this were a white guy. It’s a white supremacist attack. It is leading the news. Every video, every racial insult would be leading the news. I question in any way whether this is gonna receive coverage.

I’ve been making this argument for years, Buck. Think about how much different our media would be if instead of “white people are racist” being the overriding story that left-wing media wants to cover, imagine if a true picture of America was actually shown, which is there are white, black, Asian, and Hispanic people who are racist against other races. All races have racists. And they were the a minority and should be criticized and reviled by everyone.

It would change the dichotomy completely overnight, as opposed to just focusing on white racism as if it doesn’t exist anywhere else, frankly, in the world. That’s the way the United States media covers this, which is why I’m skeptical whether this will ever see the light of day.

BUCK: Did we ever find out the Waukesha motive? Of course not. He actually just pleaded not guilty I think pretty recently to 70 federal charges, including intentional homicide. So he’s facing life in prison. And the defense, just so everybody understands, the defense is saying — look — I understand that defense counsel is gonna have to come up with something. He pleaded not guilty, the last I saw. If that at has changed, we’ll update it. But the defense is that he got lost and panicked.

Now, the reality is there are a lot of eyewitnesses in Waukesha who saw him and there’s video of him actually zigzagging —

CLAY: Trying to hit people.

BUCK: — to hit more people. So the reality is he actually wanted to kill as many people as possible. And we are to believe that there was no ideological motivation for this whatsoever, that the hatred of white people at the Waukesha Christmas parade could not have even been a consideration.

Remember in the early days — we talked about it on the show — the media has a playbook now they run with this. “We can’t know… ” It’s just that they won’t say what the motive is. They will attack people like me, you, and others, who will analyze what appears to be the motive in the early stages. And when you’re talking motive you’re always speaking about state of mind, psychology of a criminal.

So you could argue you never know the real motive, you know, you never know entirely 100 percent. But it’s about a reasonable doubt standard, right? It’s about what we can know as people based upon evidence, experience, and reason. And they delay — and even attack anyone who tries to talk about real motive. The same exact thing is gonna go on right now.

You and I will talk about this. This guy’s clearly a huge racist and at some level, obviously, a lunatic. But you have to separate out, is he not responsible for-his-actions crazy, or just crazy evil but knows what he’s doing and is making a choice to be evil? I think this guy falls into the second category.

But there will be no national conversation about our tone of any kind of discussion here. There will be no greater media focus on how this came to be. They’re not gonna look at all of his relatives and checked and go into some deep dive about everything he had ever said that indicated that he is racist.

Now, Clay, they’re going to forget, to borrow from the greatest of all time, Rush, they’re going to be Drive-By Media on this. That is what they will do. But they hold off, they hold off everybody, and then they just drive away once the damage is done. They don’t care.

CLAY: And they say how dare you discuss in any way this guy’s motive. It’s racist of us to even bring up the racism of this guy. And, by the way, this is a string of attacks, by the way, that we can bring together. We mentioned Waukesha. How about the shooting of the mayoral candidate in Louisville?

Remember the guy got bail? I mean, this is a clear racist black guy, walks in, tries to assassinate a Jewish mayor in Louisville and gets bail, like, gets right back out on the street. BLM paid his bail and the story vanishes, Buck. Also the Capitol Police attack, remember the guy who drove the Capitol Police after January 6th shows up, he’s a black militant in some way, attempts to attack the Capitol, story disappears.

BUCK: And now we have to look at this and understand how it fits into the broader discussion going on in this country about crime in general. And they’re focusing in on the gun and they’re focusing in on, you know, historic inequalities when it comes to crime. We either hold individuals accountable for what they do as individuals or our entire criminal justice system becomes a joke.

It just becomes actually not a mechanism for justice but a mechanism for political science, which is what the left has basically done. This all fits into a broader storyline of what do we do when we find out that somebody is actually a threat to society, is a threat to those around them? This guy was on the FBI radar; so he had already come to FBI attention probably for saying, you know, deeply racist and violent and frightening things about white people.

CLAY: They interviewed him.

BUCK: Yes. That’s what I mean. They sat down with him. He’s on FBI radar. Now, you could say, well, if he didn’t break the law. Okay. But I’m also curious to see more about this individual’s past and history and what warning signs may have been either swept under the rug or people may have avoided entirely.

And ultimately, Clay, there’s a lie that is always repeated in the media, you’ll see it constantly, that all mass shooters, all mass shooters are white, you’ll hear people, you’ll read people in media that will say this. And you know what the actual truth is when it comes to mass shootings? It fits almost perfectly as a percentage of the population, when you look at the, you know, racial breakdown. There are Asian mass shooters; there are black mass shooters; there are white mass shooters. And it is proportional to their representation in the greater U.S. population.

And, you know, until we can actually have a serious look at what is going on in cities across the country, how we can stop all this, we’ve already learned these lessons. I mean, I think one of the grace frustrations, Clay, for New Yorkers in particular, we turned all this around, we know how it was done and then the left came in and said let’s stop doing it.

Actually let’s undo it and go against the actual enforcement of law and the holding of individuals accountable, irrespective of historical grievance or the left-wing narrative or whatever it may be. And getting this wrong matters because people die, people are, you know, bludgeoned on the streets, they’re robbed, stores are robbed in these flash mobs.

I mean, it should be embarrassing to the city of New York where I live and in Los Angeles and San Francisco and every other place that you can think of now that’s a major city that even in what are considered safe neighborhoods, Clay, basically everything in a CVS is under lock and key now.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Why is that okay?

CLAY: No, it’s a fantastic question, and it’s emblematic of the larger decline of safety everywhere. And I just want to play these videos, audio of this guy, to give you a sense — we had to cut and edit some of the words, but you probably won’t hear this anywhere else. But this is not a difficult thing to analyze here, Buck.

This guy is a racist, he may well be severely mentally ill. But I want you to think about how this would be covered if this were a white guy who had opened fire on the subway and if videos like this were out there. Listen to cut 25 as he discusses his racist philosophy.

CLAY: So that is him reacting, Buck, there’s video of him walking on the street screaming racial slurs at Asian and white people. That is him, it’s a YouTube video that he did. I can’t believe that he has any subscribers at all, by the way. That is him when he’s putting up a photo of Ketanji Brown Jackson, newest Supreme Court justice who is married to a white guy, being extremely upset that a black woman is married to a white guy.

This would be an immediate, based on all videos that I have seen — I did a deep dive this morning — this would be a media hate crime, this would be the lead story on CNN, MSNBC, you’d pick up the New York Times tomorrow and it would be, how did this guy get radicalized? Fox News is responsible.

BUCK: Oh, Donald Trump. It would be Donald Trump’s fault. If this were a white guy saying similar, hateful things about any other race — Asian, black, you name it — it wouldn’t only be the biggest story across all media outlets. This was a mass shooting in the in New York City subway.

CLAY: Still at large 24 hours later.

BUCK: He’s still at large, Clay, and there’s no panels discussing, did we miss something?

Or maybe, just maybe all the talk about white supremacy and a white supremacist, white nationalist America and essentially fomenting hatred toward white people and check your white privilege and all, maybe that’s not constructive. Maybe that’s a bad idea. Maybe it’s actually kind of racist to do that. No panels about that. No discussions on CNN or MSNBC. Not a surprise.

CLAY: I’m also gonna play this one. Again, this is bleeped. This is him recording himself walking on the street screaming racial insults at people in I believe it’s New York City. Listen to this one as well.

BUCK: All right. All right. It’s honestly so ugly I don’t — you know, we — sorry about that, everybody.

CLAY: I think it’s important because I’m not sure, Buck, that anybody else will even share these videos or that audio with their audience. This is the guy who opened fire on the New York City subway. And it’s gonna get — I guarantee you — swept under the rug just like what happened in Waukesha, just like what happened to mayor of Louisville getting shot, just like the Capitol Police attack.

BUCK: Just like Stop AAPI Hate. This guy is clearly an anti-Asian racist.

CLAY: Correct.

BUCK: And that campaign evaporated. Why did the Stop AAPI, Asian-American, Pacific islander? Did I get that right be the acronym?

CLAY: I think that’s right.

BUCK: Anyway, Asian-American, Pacific islander, why did that campaign go away? Because after the media said, oh, my gosh.

All these white people are so violent toward Asians, it turned out that a majority of the hate crimes committed against Asians in a lot of major American citizens were committed by black men, not by white guys; so the story evaporate. Just statistics, folks, just actual numbers, actual data, and the story went away.

I want to come back just into the broader crime issue a little bit here, Clay, as well as what their — ’cause the gun focus from Biden, right? This week we’re supposed to worry about —

CLAY: That’s the other pivot. Oh, this guy is not responsible for his actions. How in the world did he have a gun? You know that’s what’s gonna happen.

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