BUCK: Clay and I just want to make some sense of what’s really going on here. You know it’s politics; it’s not science. You know that. That’s clear already. Where does good old Joe Biden think that he sees the politics right now? What is his view, his version of all of this? He says, essentially, that he thinks they’re moving to… Let’s see. Play clip 23. We’ve got it.

NBC’s Lester Holt: “Do you acknowledge…a restlessness and leaders bowing to the political winds?”

Biden: “Oh, I do. Omicron and the variant, all the variants have had a profound impact on the psyche of the American people.” pic.twitter.com/hH8axPfKfK

— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) February 11, 2022

BUCK: Clay, the missing of promises and weddings and funerals and all, now they want to talk about how…? They made us do all this stuff for the last year that was totally unnecessary. You could argue it was unnecessary from the very beginning. For what?

CLAY: I love this, too, because first of all, Joe Biden is not leading. So when you’re asked is it too soon, what should be going on, and you don’t really give an answer, we were talking off air, Buck, before we started the show how many blue states left have not begun ,to lift restrictions? I mean, just in recent vintage history right, this week we got New York, we got California, we’ve got Massachusetts, Delaware, Nevada, all these states that were won by Democrats in 2020 are effectively ending their restrictions.

And this morning when I woke up, there was a headline from the New York Times, and it said, “Follow the Science?” Question mark. This is the New York Times! Opening paragraph: “The CDC describes medium-rare hamburgers as “undercooked” and dangerous. The agency also directs Americans to avoid raw cookie dough and not to eat more than a teaspoon or so of salt every day. And the CDC tells sexually active women of childbearing age not to drink alcohol unless they are on birth control.”

The point is “follow the science” is something that almost no one does on every issue, right, and really what the CDC should have been given some deference to is balancing risk-reward. And we can be upset at the experts, and I am really upset at the experts, the Faucis of the world, the Leana Wens — the “experts” in quotation marks here — the Rochelle Walenskys, all these people, Buck.

If you wonder why no one trusts or watches @cnn here’s their health “expert” arguing against herself on covid. Enjoy: pic.twitter.com/6QwmQwsFsS

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) February 10, 2022

But, to me, I’m angrier at politicians because, when you really boil it down, what you are voting for is a politician’s judgment, and you can’t just — as Joe Biden tried to do there as well. You can’t just avoid making decisions as a leader by saying you’re going to defer and “follow the science,” because the science, as you and I both know, has been messy throughout and that completely obviates the need of you because we vote for politicians.

We don’t vote for Dr. Fauci, unfortunately. I’d love to see him removed from office. We don’t vote for the CDC director. These are people that are enabled and empowered by politicians, which is why we have to hold them all accountable and have a destructive midterms for Democrats in terms of actually making there be some consequences for their abject failures here.

BUCK: The New York Times coming out now among many other outlets, Clay, making arguments that we have been making —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — going on now two years, certainly a year, year and a half, depending on the specific argument we’re talking about. And what everyone is seeing right now is the realization — and I do think it is sweeping across the country — that somehow the bureaucrats who want to literally tell you what temperature to order your cheeseburger have been able to shut down your church, mask up your kids, shut down your business.

Make you get one shot, two shots, three shots, maybe four shots. The people who tell you oysters can kill you — technically, true but so can drinking too much water too fast, by the way. You can look that one up. Those are the people who have been in charge of every aspect of our society under the promise that they were going to “flatten the curve,” which they failed to do, “stop the spread,” which they failed to do, save large amounts of human life, which they also failed to do.

So what exactly have we gone through? You sit here and you say, what was the tradeoff, Clay? I mean, Fauci is gonna be walking around guaranteed the next six to 12 months, particularly the next 6 to 9 months before the midterms. They’re talking about awards for him. You’re gonna see Fauci walking around with more medals than the generalissimo on his chest because they have to pump this guy up because he became their front for all of these actions.

CLAY: Yeah. And you’re right. And we talked about this yesterday. It’s starting even earlier than I thought it would, but the clear goal here… Don’t mistake what’s going on. This is a definite narrative pivot in favor of arguing, “We declare victory, we won,” and they’re going to pretend that they actually have managed to succeed against covid.

You’re gonna tried to see Biden take a victory lap. He tried to take a victory lap, Buck, last year. Remember July 4th, when he tried to declare independence from covid, and then you had the Delta variant and then you had Omicron? So who knows. There may be another variant coming down the pike that could create a major issue for everyone.

But as we’ll talk to Dr. Marty Makary about, at this point almost everyone has either had covid, is vaccinated, or in some way has some form of immunity against it and so that’s I think probably the lasting benefit of Omicron is it effectively ended any argument that we were gonna do away with covid. Now, I didn’t see this happening so quickly where every Democratic state collusion, it feels like…

All of these Democratic governors who had been locking down their states — Connecticut, Illinois, New York, California, you name it — all of a sudden they came out this week and effectively started to end all of their mandates. Even though, as you pointed out yesterday, Buck, we’re over two times as many cases of covid today as we had last year at this time, and also there are more deaths on a daily basis right now than last year at this time.

BUCK: Isn’t it amazing how many times you’ve heard even just over the last six months…? We know they said they know how to stop this virus. No, they don’t, actually, and we’ve really known this from the beginning. The history of stopping aerosol used viruses in human beings is not one of state success. It’s not a… The virus does what it does; it spreads.

People try to deal with it; their immune systems, hopefully, can fight it. They promised us if we listen that they would avoid this whole winter that we went through. I think that’s part of why, Clay, people are just saying, “Hold on a second. Look at what just happened. Look at what we went through this year alone under Biden.” More deaths under Biden than under Trump. How is that possible, given the vaccine?

CLAY: Way more. Way more. And no end in sight. And remember how out of touch Joe Biden has been regarding covid. Buck, when he took office, he said if everybody would just wear a mask for a hundred days, covid would go away. And people just pretend that that never happened, right? They never bring up these arguments. Remember he said in July, as recently as July of last year, “Hey, if you get the shot, if you get the covid vaccine, you won’t get it and you won’t spread it.”

Even long after it was clear that that was still occurring, he’s continued to try to argue this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated when the data doesn’t support that in any way. And I think all the moms have finally had it. I think this argument that the kids are not being impacted, we finally have won, and you’ve got the mom revolution, which I think is gonna sweep through the country and destroy Democrats in the midterms.

BUCK: Yeah. The closest thing… I think this should be said: The closest thing that we have had had to the freedom convoy in America is the mom revolution at school board meetings and at schools in general — and we mean dads too, obviously, but the parental revolution.

CLAY: Moms are driving. I went as a dad to speak but the ones that, by and large, have really gone viral, I think moms connect with everybody in a way that dads might not with the righteous indignation. Does that make sense? Like when you watch a dad and he’s angry I don’t think it connects in the same way that an angry mom does, if that makes any sense.

BUCK: Yeah. I totally think that the optics of this also with the Biden regime, it’s one thing when they tell you and me, “Shut up, peasant, wear your mask.” It’s another thing when a mom who has a child who perhaps has some developmental delays or is having trouble in school is saying, this is hurting my kid. And surly bureaucrats who have been paid to sit at home for months and months on end during the pandemic ’cause they’re so scared tell the mom to shut up. That’s a different thing, right? That hits differently, I think, for a lot of people.