BUCK: A lot of the suffering that’s occurring across the country right now is the result of Democrat machinery and apparatuses that are inflicting bad ideas, acting on bad policies, and then don’t change because it’s not about the outcome. It’s about the intent, right? So it doesn’t matter to the Democrat Party that shutting down schools is disastrous and wasn’t necessary and doesn’t promote health and doesn’t stop the spread. That’s what teachers unions want, and they’re betraying children and they’re betraying the very educational mission they’re supposed to have.

But teachers unions are important. The machinery is important to the Democrat Party. The machinery of prosecutors’ offices — and welcome back to the Clay and Buck show. The machinery of prosecutors’ offices across the country and increasingly people we are recognizing as the Soros-backed district attorneys have caused a tremendous amount of suffering, very real suffering.

You know, it’s one thing when you talk about inflation or you talk about the unemployment rate and they can say, “Well, it’s not our fault” or “It’s better than it was.” When people are being bludgeoned in the street, when someone is let out on bail immediately and then goes on to commit a mass murder in Waukesha, Wisconsin, and we still haven’t heard what the official motive is there, have we?

Exactly what we thought all along. They didn’t want to talk about what was a mass-murder hate crime. Instead, they just said, “We don’t know. We don’t know, and then we’ll talk about something else. But we have these district attorneys in places like — Clay and I have talked about it many times — Larry Krasner in Philadelphia, Chesa Boudin in San Francisco, Kim Foxx in Chicago, go down the list.

And now we have a new district attorney in Manhattan in America’s largest city, and this guy has already right off the bat shown everybody exactly what they should expect. Alvin Bragg has said in a memo that his office will not seek “a carceral sentence,” also known as “prison time.” This is now the word. Anytime you hear someone start talking about ending mass incarceration, “the carceral state,” this is the language of the left in the realm of criminal justice.

It’s a tell right away. Had you even heard the term “carceral”? This is like three or four years ago, if you heard someone say “cisgender,” they were effectively telling you that, you know, they voted for Hillary and Biden or Bernie and they like tofu a lot and they are left wing and they wear Birkenstocks. Right? There are certain tells you have through language. “Carceral state” is something you talk about as a left-wing person.

Clay, here’s what Alvin Bragg is now saying — as the new district attorney in New York — they will not seek prison time for. They will not seek it for a number of offenses, including some with at least the threat of violence like armed robbery. “The rule is that only in extraordinary circumstances,” he wrote in this memo, “based on a holistic analysis of the facts, can you actually accept these rules,” meaning that they do not want people to go to prison for these things unless there’s an extraordinary circumstance.

So the people bringing the charges… In some ways, this is even worse than a very left-wing judge because the actual machinery of bringing the charges in the first place so the public even knows about it is in the hands of people who are being told if someone sticks a gun in a New Yorker’s face and says, “Give me your car, give me your wallet,” and they don’t actually shoot them, maybe we shouldn’t send that person to prison. Clay, to call this madness after what we’ve seen with defund the police, the massive rise in violent crime across the country is an understatement. But this is left-wing Democrat ideology now. This is about belief, not about facts.

CLAY: And it’s also as I point out, I think it’s significant to understand what’s happened here. All of this soft-on-crime political shenanigans is predicated on low crime rates, because being upset about the amount of time that criminals are imprisoned is a luxury of low crime rates. And what we are seeing now is skyrocketing crime rates.

BUCK: We’ve seen it for a long time to be fair, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So how we get here is the low crime rates. But we’re at high crime rates now.

CLAY: We have seen from 2019 to 2020, Buck, was the largest single-year increase in murders on record for the FBI. Nearly 30%. And we’re going to grow from 2020’s all-time highs to higher rates in 2021. And the crazy thing here is, Buck, the one thing that Joe Biden might have gotten right in his political career was the 1994 crime bill, which if you go book and look, was a seismic step towards putting criminals behind bars.

And as you just read and analyzed what the DAs all over the country with going to be doing, remember criminals know what is going to happen too. So you are sending a message to criminals to encourage them — in some ways — to commit crimes because they know the punishment, if they are caught, when the vast majority of them will not be caught, are going to be relatively insignificant.

I think what you’re headed for is a war between oftentimes Democratic mayors — ’cause I think Eric Adams is not gonna be happy about this. Remember London Breed in San Francisco basically said she was tired of all of this crap. I think you’re gonna see a war between mayors — internal war, Democrats — between mayors who understand how failed these policies are and district attorneys funded by George Soros who are still trying to argue against putting people in prison.

BUCK: We should look at what the justification is for this as well. Now, remember, some of the primary changes. We always talk about defund the police, and that covers a whole lot of stuff ideologically speaking. Yes, it’s of course money for cops. But when someone says they’re a defund-the-police advocate, they’re also about “ending mass incarceration.”

That’s the key phrase they’ll say. You’ll say, “What is that? Are you telling me we have a lot of innocent people in prison?” No, they’re not actually saying we have that many. It’s not that a huge portion of the people that are serving prison sentences are innocent. It’s that the system itself shouldn’t be putting them in prison because it’s too harsh, it’s too mean, and there’s “disparities” involved.

This is actually from that memo that he put out. The district attorneys that work for… These are the ADAs, the assistant district attorneys that work for Alvin Bragg in New York, have to look at what “a carceral sentence does to potential future barriers to convicts involving housing and employment, the financial cost of prison and racial disparities over who is prosecuted and gets time.”

That is where we’re heading here, folks. I mean, you have to understand, they’re basically saying because — and let me point it out to everybody this way: Ninety percent of violent crime in this country is perpetrated by men. Men are the ones who serve prison time for violent crimes. Now, we could sit around and say, “Oh, you know, that’s…”

CLAY: Sexist. You could argue that our incarceration rates are sexist because men are wildly over-punished relative to population, based on just pure male-versus-female population.

BUCK: And yet we also all know that men are the ones who are actually committing the crimes and need to be punished for it. It doesn’t matter what the percentages are. There’s no quotas for crime. And what you see with the Soros-backed left-wing prosecutors is, “Well, because there are disparities in the system just about the overall percentages of who’s in prison, there must be racism.

“There must be…” I mean, I guess there’s not sexism, but there must be other disparities that have to be addressed. And so the way that they’re addressing it is by suggesting that the public’s interest in safety will be served by letting somebody who’s an armed robber, for example, out. Clay, we’re talking about no prison time.

CLAY: Yeah, I know.

BUCK: It’s not even a reduction. No prison time.

CLAY: It’s crazy. And, by the way, to your point on sexism, look, there are right now… You can look at murders. We like to talk about murders ’cause we know they happened. It’s hard to hide a dead body. So the most violent crime that can be committed is a murder. Men between 18 and 24 are the biggest proponents of murder, the biggest culprits of murder, the people most likely to do it.

But you know what? Six percent of the population is black men, right? Black men make up on her half of all murders that are committed in the United States. That occurred, right? We know that crime occurs. So sometimes the reason why there is a disparate treatment — I know this is gonna blow people’s mind — is because the people who are responsible for it… Just as you said, Buck.

When it comes to men are more responsible for violent crime than women, there is a large percentage of murder that is occurring committed by black men. Are we not supposed to punish them because of their race? Are we supposed to be upset? We have to look at the data — and this is what the whole broken windows concept was. Find the neighborhoods where the crime is and go try to stop it from happening. That needs to happen everywhere.