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Clay Breaks Down All of the Super Bowl Stories

13 Feb 2023

Clay joined Bill Hemmer for a conversation about the Super Bowl, bringing his keen sports eye to the stories we all should reflect upon as we Monday morning quarterback after the huge Chiefs’ win.

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Clay on Spy Balloons, 2024 GOP, and Social Media Limits

13 Feb 2023

Clay joined Fox News Sunday’s Shannon Bream and America Newsroom’s Bill Hemmer to nail down the latest on the Chinese spy balloons that have finally gotten Joe Biden’s attention. Plus, a conversation on Big Tech’s latest lurch into our business.

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Clay’s Super Bowl News Duel With Brian Kilmeade

13 Feb 2023

On Fox News Channel, Clay hashed out the Super Bowl with Fox & Friends sports guy Brian Kilmeade.

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Brookings Institution Ranks This Show as One of the Foremost Purveyors of Misinformation

10 Feb 2023

The New York Times has teamed up with the Brookings Institution to smear this program and its predecessor, the great Rush Limbaugh.

They claim that the Rush Limbaugh Show/Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show are the #3 purveyors of misinformation in the American audio universe.

This comes on the heels of the first major mainstream media report on the increase in heart attacks among young people “since covid.” What’s astounding is the article doesn’t even MENTION the possible impact of the covid vaccine! And we’re the ones peddling misinformation?

This show and conservative media in general has been way ahead of the curve on covid, the Hunter Biden laptop and other topics, which the Democrats and media have been lying to you about. We’ve been proven right time and time again.

On Friday’s show, Clay invited the researchers at Brookings to come on this show and tell us what they heard here that was wrong and why. But we’re not holding our breath for them to show up.

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U.S. Shoots Down Object Off Coast of Alaska

10 Feb 2023

Breaking news as our show was ending today. The Pentagon announced they’d shot down an object off the coast of Alaska.

A “high altitude” object that the Pentagon says was smaller than the Chinese spy balloon that Biden just said was not a “major breach.” It seems like we’re in the midst of a Cold War with China with a clueless president. Scary times.

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Sen. JD Vance Warns Against Underestimating Biden

10 Feb 2023

CLAY: We are joined now by the final guest for the week. He is JD Vance, recently elected senator from Ohio. And Senator, first of all, thanks for making the time for us. I want to start right here. I was just talking about Joe Biden saying — and this is a direct quote from him — “Anyway, not a major breach,” when directly asked about the Chinese spy balloon that traversed the entire United States. Doesn’t it seem like that’s kind of a major breach to you, and if it’s not, what in the world would Biden consider to be a major breach?

SEN. VANCE: Well, it is a major breach, and I actually attended classified briefings yesterday. So I’ll be a little bit careful about what we learned and what we didn’t learn or what we still don’t know. But I will say, having sat through that brief, I came away with two thoughts. One, it confirmed my view that we should have shot this thing down the moment it entered North American airspace — which, remember that it started out Alaska. We were aware of that on January the 28th. It went through a major chunk of Canada — completely unoccupied, uninhabited territory, maybe sparsely populated parts of Canada — where we could have easily shot this thing down and we should have.

The second thing is, it was a major breach. In fact, we don’t fully know what the Chinese learned from it, but we know that the balloon had intelligence-gathering capabilities. We know they learned a lot about some important American military installations. And we know that we actually aren’t fully aware of exactly what they learned. And that’s a big problem, right? You don’t want a foreign balloon of America’s biggest adversary floating overhead for days without being fully aware of what they’re gathering. So it was a major problem that should have been shot down. I think Joe Biden is being really, really careless when he tries to downplay this. He should level with the American people. I would actually respect Biden more if he came out and said, “Look, this was a mistake. We should have shot it down earlier, and it’s a big problem, and it suggests a major escalation from the Chinese.”

CLAY: You just got elected from Ohio and you wrote a fabulous book, Hillbilly Elegy. I bet you saw James Carville go on MSNBC and call Marjorie Taylor Greene “white trash.” You guys are around the… We’re around the same age, you and me. I’m from Tennessee. You grew up in Kentucky, in Ohio, in that area. You know that that is among the most pejorative terms out there that you can toss on someone. He also said she dressed like white trash. When you look at Democrats basically becoming the party of the woke, white college educated, I’m curious how you would respond to that, because Carville helped to get Bill Clinton elected in ‘92 and ‘96. He’s a Louisiana guy. I’m stunned that he would go on… You can have lots of issues with people, variety of backgrounds, but to call her white trash, it just felt like such a window into what Democrats have become and even that Carville himself has become that.

SEN. VANCE: Yeah. I have a few thoughts about this play, and I could probably talk about this for longer than you have time. But first of all, James Carville calling somebody white trash? I mean, isn’t that the ultimate pot-calling-the-kettle-black moment?

CLAY: (laughing)

SEN. VANCE: The second reaction I have is, you know, Marjorie, as you may know, is a good friend of mine. I think she doesn’t get credit from the media for actually being much more thoughtful than they realize and a much bigger leader, I think, in our movement than people realize in the future. But, look, this is why Democrats lose working-class white people — that’s my entire families — because they speak about us with such incredible disrespect and derision. And by the way, Clay, there is no group in America that you can get away talking about like that —

CLAY: Yep!

SEN. VANCE: — without losing your job or losing your livelihood. The double standard, people are aware of it, and it’s why all of this talk about white privilege and all these other things is completely bogus, because people know that if you are a middle class, working class white person that the media can talk about you like you’re a sewer rat and they’ll get away with it. And that’s a big double standard.

CLAY: And you see it in particular, because Ohio’s a perfect window into that, right? Ohio used to be a toss-up state, and because Democrats have become so derisive in the way that they talk about so many people in the state — people who have to work for a living, blue collar — I don’t even know how they can get back that group. Right? I mean, I. I know what. Maybe it shouldn’t have been staggering to me, but to go on MSNBC and say it so explicitly? It was just crazy to me.

SEN. VANCE: Yeah, no, it’s a big part of the reason why they’re suffering politically. Look, people want to have basic respect from their political leaders. This is America, after all. We are not ruled by kings. We’re ruled by nobody. We’re led and governed by our fellow citizens. And if you don’t have respect for people, how can you possibly expect to earn their votes? It’s interesting to compare what Carville said to Biden’s State of the Union address, where, look, there are all of these problems with it. He was doing a victory lap on the economy. That’s a disaster. He didn’t even mention the Chinese spy balloon. He didn’t sound great; he didn’t look great.

We can go through all the problems. But the one thing that I think Republicans have got to be careful about with Biden is that while a lot of people don’t like his policies, they don’t hate him at a personal level. He talked about forgotten towns and he talked about bad trade deals, the loss of manufacturing, the loss of dignity that comes along when you lose a job. I thought that was actually pretty effective politically. But the problem with Biden and the Democrats is they are completely led and surrounded by people like James Carville, who really hate a big chunk of the population in Middle America — and you can’t run from that and you can’t pretend it isn’t there when you’re a Democrat.

CLAY: You’re talking about 2024. As we look forward, I believe you have endorsed Donald Trump for 2024. In your mind, is it pretty much a foregone conclusion that Biden is going to be the guy for Democrats? And if so, what does that tell us about the Democrat Party?

SEN. VANCE: You know, I don’t know, Clay. It’s crazy to me that it’s anything close to a foregone conclusion because he clearly is not the same. I met Joe Biden once in 2016. Reasonably briefly. He’s just a fundamentally different person than that seven years later. So, it’s shocking to me that he could lead the country potentially for another six years. But he sounded like a man during the State of the Union who was going to run again. So I do think he’s the likely Democratic nominee. And, you know, I think Trump is the likely nominee. I think he’s certainly the frontrunner. Obviously, I’ve endorsed him. But I think we’re going to have a tough primary on the Republican side. At least I expect that we will.

CLAY: When you look forward and think about what’s going to happen, you saw the State of the Union from Joe Biden, and I bet you even picked up on the fact that he sounded a little bit like Donald Trump.

SEN. VANCE: Yep.

CLAY: I mean, he didn’t sound anything like the Joe Biden who has governed the first two years. What happens for the next two years? You’re now in the Senate. What can get done, what should get done in the remainder of the Biden regime?

SEN. VANCE: Well, look, I think that Joe Biden realizes politically that the border is a disaster. And this is one area where, you know, I think it’s the most important crisis that we face as a country. And if Biden is willing to meet us halfway or any way, it’s where we should be most willing to cut a deal for the American people. If we can stop or at least reduce the flow of illegal migrants, of illegal drugs, of criminal activity across the border, we should do it. I think it would be good for Biden politically, but I don’t care about that. I just want to stop the border crisis.

And I think that’s the most important thing that we can do. I think there’s maybe some room to work on what we’re doing with China, on beefing up our industrial capacity. You know, we need to be manufacturing weapons that we could use, God forbid, if we get into a conflict with China two years down the road, five years down the road. Right now, our country is not capable of producing the weapons systems we would need for any potential future conflict. Again, you hope that it doesn’t happen.

But the best way to prevent it from happening is to make sure you’re ready for it. I think there are potentially ways to work with Joe Biden on that. But look, by and large, the Democrats are already running for reelection in the Senate. We’re not working all that hard because the Senate Democrats have us in a lot of recess because they’re trying to defend their political territory. They’re not thinking about governing. So I don’t think a whole lot is going to get done. We can prevent the bad, maybe get some things accomplished on the border and China, but that’s the posture for the next couple of years.

CLAY: I know you’ve probably not had much time or experience with him, but John Fetterman was elected at the same time that you were. He’s been in the hospital now for two nights. He’s in there for a third day. What has your experience been like with John Fetterman, and what do you think about his potential health prognosis so far as you can tell?

SEN. VANCE: You know, at first I wish the guy the very best. You know, he’s got some serious health problems. It’s been very clear in communicating with him, the little that I have, that he has some serious hangovers from the stroke. But on the one hand, look, we can pray for his recovery — I certainly have and will continue to do so — and on the other hand, acknowledge the unbelievable dishonesty of the media where when people raised his health as a potential problem for him serving, the media, shot it down, did not investigate it, did not really ask the questions that should be asked of anybody after a serious health consequence or emergency, whether they’re Republicans or Democrats. So, I think the fact that John continues to struggle is sad. I also think it’s an incredible indictment of the media. They should have been on top of this from the very beginning. The people of Pennsylvania should have been made aware of those problems, and a lot of them weren’t because the media didn’t do their job.

CLAY: No doubt. All right. Easy question for you to close out here. I imagine you’ll be watching the Super Bowl. I imagine you’re also still ruing the fact that the Cincinnati Bengals lost in the way that they did to the Kansas City Chiefs. What happens? Who wins? Why?

SEN. VANCE: Well, look, Clay, I think that if the Kansas City Chiefs are playing not just the Eagles but with the referees on their side like they did against the Cincinnati Bengals, they’re going to win a massive Super Bowl victory.

CLAY: (laughing)

SEN. VANCE: You know, the Eagles can’t beat both the Chiefs and the refs. I have I have poked some of my colleagues who are from the Kansas City area about this. But I will never get over the officiating of that AFC Championship Game, and I gotta be honest: I don’t really care who wins, but I’ll certainly be watching like everybody else.

CLAY: By the way, as a big Bulls fan, what did you think of the Cincinnati mayor’s proclamation? We played that I think, on Monday of maybe a couple of weeks ago. It’s one of the craziest proclamations I’ve ever seen. For people who don’t remember, the Democrat mayor of Cincinnati basically gave the most trash talking thing that I’ve ever seen any politician put out there. I would think people in Cincinnati are still kind of fired up about that because clearly the Kansas City Chiefs players took note because Travis Kelce was ripping the mayor, which I’ve also never seen after game.

SEN. VANCE: (laughing) Well, you know, obviously as a Democrat; I’m a Republican, but I admire the fire in the belly because, look, a lot of us were pissed off about this. I am not, Clay… I have never, I think, in my life as a sports fan, complained about the officiating as much as I have the last couple of weeks. I’ve just never seen anything like it.

CLAY: Yeah, I know. It was a mess. There’s no doubt at all that it was a mess. Well, we’ll talk to you again soon. Appreciate all the work you’re doing and thanks for making the time with us here on this Friday.

SEN. VANCE: All right. Take care, man. Have a good weekend.

CLAY: Yeah, for sure.

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Sen. Johnson Responds to Biden Attacks: Not Only Is He a Liar, He’s a Hypocrite

10 Feb 2023

CLAY: We’re joined now by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Senator, I know we’ve had you on since you won reelection in November, but Joe Biden seems to enjoy attacking you by making up stories about you. I know you’re used to that, but he traveled to your state and made some claims about you. What did you consider to be the biggest whoppers — and I hope you’re having a good weekend, early start to your weekend. Thanks for coming on with us.

SEN. JOHNSON: Well, great. Hope you’re doing well. Well, I think the president might have just forgotten the fact that I already won reelection and he doesn’t have to worry about attacking me for another five or six years.

CLAY: (laughing) You’re going to be in office for longer than he is. I feel good about that.

SEN. JOHNSON: But what’s amazing, I actually really appreciate what Fox News uncovered, is back in 1975, Senator Joe Biden was proposing exactly what he has, for example, accusing Rick Scott of saying. He proposed sunsetting every government program every four years, and talked repeatedly about freezing Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. So, I mean, not only is he a liar. He’s a hypocrite. So, he comes to Wisconsin — he did this in the campaign and just did it again yesterday — basically saying that I want to cut or end or put Social Security on the chopping block. I’ve never said that. It’s a complete lie. What I have said is I want to save those programs, and I’ve said the way to save them is we need to start reducing the out-of-control deficit spending. I pay attention to our massive debt, and it is that deficit spending in massive debt that is the greatest threat to Social Security — and politicians like Joe Biden, who now as President Biden, simply will not take a look at federal spending and start reining it in and start prioritizing it.

CLAY: So there’s a lot going on right now. I know we were hoping that you would have control of a committee, that the Republicans would take control of the Senate. But the House has really been unveiling a lot as it pertains to Twitter, misinformation campaigns, and everything else out there. And I want to I want to ask you about this question in particular, because I was hammering it yesterday, and I know it’s something that you would consider to be incredibly integral as well. So, we know that the FBI’s had the Hunter Biden laptop since December of 2019. We also know — smoking-gun evidence — that they were providing briefings to big tech companies, arguing that for them to be prepared for Russian disinformation potentially connected to the Hunter Biden laptop.

To be fair, we don’t know whether the FBI agents giving those briefings had also been privy to the investigation into Hunter Biden’s laptop. What we do know, Senator, is that some people at the FBI — we don’t know how many — would have known that the laptop was real and would have been in some way either allowing or encouraging the briefings to Big Tech to suggest that the laptops were not real. And I know that involved you as well and what the FBI acted. Who do we think was the puppet master here trying to rig the election in 2020 based on the Hunter Biden laptop, and are we ever going to know who inside the FBI basically ordered these code reds?

SEN. JOHNSON: Well, one of the reasons I called for in my testimony the House investigators to call and interview every one of those 51 intelligence officials that signed that that “information operation” letter. Okay. I remember that they said that the Hunter Biden laptop “had all the earmarks of a Russian information operation.” No, that letter was an information operation that interfered and had an impact on our election to a far greater extent than anything Russia ever could have hoped to accomplish. So, first of all, we need to find out who masterminded that letter. But you know what? One thing, I think Chuck Grassley kind of took this part of his testimony, really focused on the sabotage of our investigation into the Bidens.

And it was multiple actors. I mean, we had Democrat senators setting us up. We had the FBI setting us up, giving us unsolicited briefings that were nonsense. They told us nothing. I knew that I was being set up. They did later leak it to smear me in 2021 and impact the Wisconsin election as well. So, what is key about that December 2019 date is, yes, the FBI definitely had that information. We have whistleblower telling us that they were told, “Do not look at that laptop.” Okay? But we have evidence, you know, a little piece of the puzzle. That’s the point that I point out in my testimony. When the FBI left the computer shop, somebody — one of the agents — said basically, “You know, it is our experience that people who don’t talk about these things, don’t get in trouble.”

And I said, “That was the opening salvo in a ten-month operation to sabotage. Any revelation that the laptop existed or any bad information.” So, I mean, people have to really think and focused on that. The FBI spent ten months working, giving us unsolicited briefings. You know, basically, you know, by the way, we were off of that computer the day after our report dropped in September, but we didn’t take possession of it because we do our due diligence. We went to the FBI. “What do you know about this?” They never told us what they knew about it. They gave us the runaround for weeks until Paul Mac Isaac or John Paul McIsaac gave it to Rudy Giuliani and the New York Post.

So people really have to understand the gravity of what the FBI was doing, how pervasive this was, how the media played a part of this Democrat senators played a role in just using Russian disinformation. They’ve been using it for years, starting with the Hillary Clinton emails, the DNC hack. We still, to this day, don’t know was that really Russia that hacked into that? But it sure worked effectively, didn’t it? So, I don’t have all the information. I just have I have so much suspicion. There’s so many things that indicate a massive diversionary operation.

CLAY: Amen. And I’m glad you — I mean, we are ecstatic that you — won reelection to be able to ask so many of these questions as a sitting senator. But I want everybody out there listening to us right now to understand, look, at Twitter and Facebook and all these different tech companies they have a lot of people, I think, that were carrying water for government for Democrats. We all know that. But what is scarier to me, Senator, is the rig job that you just talked about from inside of our own government, our own taxpayer-funded FBI. There is a cabal. There is a collusion that is going on there.

We don’t know how many people there were, but they made a calculated decision inside of the FBI to try and rig the election by arguing the Hunter Biden laptop wasn’t real, when they 100% knew — at the top of the food chain in the FBI — that it was real. And those same people, by and large, Senator, are still there. And we’re going to have a new election cycle coming up in 2024. I don’t know how anybody in the American public with a functional brain can be confident with those same people in positions of power when really they’re the puppet masters, is what I’m calling them. And you can say, “Oh, look at how the Twitter and Facebook people are dancing.” You know, they’re the puppets. But who’s the puppet master? We still don’t know, and that’s the essence of what we have to get to, right?

SEN. JOHNSON: It is the global left en masse. I don’t think that’s what our side has really understood well enough yet, is how pervasive, how literally global this is. And that’s what I tried to point out in my, you know, ten or 12 minutes worth of testimony yesterday is the pervasiveness of this.

CLAY: Yes.

SEN. JOHNSON: I mean, all of the actors. It is the left. And they have infiltrated every institution of our country. They started with universities. I mean, the Saul Alinsky Rules for Radical playbook. I mean, it’s been following that for decades, and they’ve been very effective at it. So when you control universities, you’re teaching journalists, you’re teaching our educators, indoctrinating our children, you control our media. And so they get away with falsely accusing conservatives of exactly what they are doing, and so we need to come to grips with how unbelievably effective they are, how effectively they’ve infiltrated all of our institutions of power, how they control the narrative.

We’re not winning this. It’s not a level playing field. It’s not a fair fight. And when we have our elected officials, you’re pretty well kowtowing to the left as well. You know, signing on to their massive, out-of-control deficit spending. It gets pretty frustrating from my standpoint, not willing, really willing to admit, you know, how far behind the eight ball we truly are and how our freedoms are so are so severely threatened. Listen, I appreciate, Clay and Buck, but you know how effective you’ve been and how you’ve been outspoken about the freedoms taken away during the pandemic. You’re one of the few. I mean, there aren’t many people — there are many people in Congress, really — screaming about what happened with the pandemic, but you have your eyes open. We just need to open up a whole lot more eyes.

CLAY: Amen. And I’m still furious about it. Buck’s out on his honeymoon right now. You know, hopefully he’s resting up so he can come back ready for the fight. I’m still fired up about so many things. But just last week, Senator, we had — and I said on Friday of last week, I never would have believed that this would be the topic that we would lead the show with. We had a Chinese spy balloon go all the way from Alaska across the entire United States and then exit off the South Carolina coast.

What in the world is going on that we allowed that to occur, and how was it normalized in any way that a foreign adversarial country is allowed to have a spy balloon that they control and we just permit it to happen? I mean, sometimes crazy things happen and I think we get used to them existing. I can’t believe that that happened and that basically people are like, “Well, it got shot down once it was in South Carolina. No big deal.” To me, that’s an unbelievable act of aggression by China, and I thought Biden’s response was incredibly weak.

SEN. JOHNSON: Well, one of the points I’ve been making — the major point — since this story is broken is why did it take so long for the administration to start talking about this?

CLAY: Yeah.

SEN. JOHNSON: So, you know, one of our huge advantages is we have an open society. Now, it’s also a disadvantage, but we need to utilize that open society. And what I’ve witnessed now that I’m in Washington, D.C., I’m not of this world. I’m an accountant. I’m a manufacturer. But now that I’m there, we go over classified material. These… You know, information is power. And so certainly within the administrations, and Congress is just willingly giving up its constitutional authority to the executive branch. And they take it. And one of the the ways they maintain power is they control all the information, which is why it’s going to be very difficult for the House to get information out of the FBI.

I mean, you’re already seeing the legal fight there. They’re just giving Comer and Jordan the middle finger. They’ll continue to do that. But we need to be more transparent. We need to force transparency of these administrations. And in terms of this balloon, we should have been made aware this immediately, the administration should have talked about, “Hey, you know, we have now detected this,” and then laid out, you know, if there’s a rationale for letting this come across so we can track it. Tell the American public about this. There’s no reason to keep this stuff secret. But they keep a secret because they keep information and they maintain the power. We need to demand greater transparency across the federal agencies.

CLAY: Last question for you — and it’s far less significant than everything we’ve been talking about so far. Who wins, Chiefs, Eagles Super Bowl Sunday.

SEN. JOHNSON: You know, I’m not a prognosticator. You know, I don’t make those predictions. I just hope for a really good competitive game. I really don’t care who wins. It’s not the Green Bay Packers there, so I don’t care.

CLAY: (laughing)

SEN. JOHNSON: I just want a really fun game to watch. That means it’s a close game and a fair game, and not decided by a stupid call. I want to see excellence. I want to see the competitors compete, and I want to see a good close game that somebody wins. I don’t want to see somebody lose it. I want to see somebody win it with just excellence.

CLAY: Outstanding. Have a good time up in Wisconsin. We’re excited to have you for six more years and we appreciate you giving us some time on this Friday.

SEN. JOHNSON: Enjoy the game. Take care.

CLAY: Will do.

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What Are Your Super Bowl Plans?

10 Feb 2023

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Biden Breaks with Super Bowl Tradition, Won’t Talk to Fox

10 Feb 2023

Every year for the Super Bowl, the president of the United States sits down with a journalist from the network broadcasting the big game. This goes back to 2004, and ends this year: Joe Biden is refusing to do the conversation because the interview is on Fox.

KJP put out a statement claiming that Fox cancelled it, which is just spin.

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Biden Says the Chinese Spy Balloon Was “Not a Major Breach”

10 Feb 2023

Our incompetent president has commented on shooting down the Chinese spy balloon. He says, it wasn’t a “major breach.”

Really? Then why did you shoot it down?

And why did your administration say it was too dangerous to shoot it down and let it traverse across the entire country — including across vast sparsely inhabited areas — before shooting it down?

Can you imagine if Trump did this and then said it was no big deal? They would have called Trump a traitor. They would have impeached him. Would Ronald Reagan or George H.W. Bush say this wasn’t a “major breach” if the Soviet Union did this during the Cold War? It’s inconceivable.

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