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CBS News Blames Covid — Not the Shot — for 30% Increase in Heart Attacks Among Young People

15 Feb 2023

The covid fanatics still will not broach anyone questioning the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. So when CBS News found a shocking increase in heart attacks among young people, naturally the culprit wasn’t the covid shot but the virus itself.

Talk about the risks — point out that Joe Biden lied when he said one shot would protect you from death forever — and you’re labeled a science denier, a heretic, a threat to America.

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Clay on Tiger Woods Playing at Riviera This Week and Future of PGA Tour and LIV Golf

15 Feb 2023

Clay joined Fox & Friends to discuss Tiger Woods hitting the links, the Professional Golfers’ Association of America in the years ahead and its upstart competitor out of Saudi Arabia, LIV Golf.

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Brookings Smeared Us, Refuses Our Invitation to Come on the Show and Explain

14 Feb 2023

Last week, the left-wing Brookings Institute fed a study to the New York Times smearing the Rush Limbaugh Show and the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show — as its successor in the timeslot — as top purveyors of disinformation. So, we invited them on this program to explain exactly how they reacted this conclusion, but they refused.

It’s a total rig job to prevent you from finding this program. That’s how the sausage is made, which is why Clay spent time taking all of you behind the curtain.

Clay posted a point-by-point takedown in a Twitter thread which you can find here.


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Vivek Ramaswamy on Battling Wokeism and Running for President

14 Feb 2023

CLAY: We are joined now by the author of Woke, Inc. and also the founder of Strive. He has been fighting battles that are significant about all this woke craziness and also the ESG. Also, the other book, Nation of Victims. Vivek with us now. Thanks for taking the time to join us. Do you feel like we are winning the battle against wokeism or do you feel like the woke virus is still spreading?

RAMASWAMY: I think it is still spreading, but it has reached a steady state. So we went through a couple of years where it was just spiking; now it feels like we’ve actually stopped its momentum, but we’ve just reached, unfortunately, a new steady state where we just assume that this has to now be part of our culture — to assume that you have to, at least in some way, take into account the person or someone’s skin color. When you’re making a hiring decision — in some way, assume that your gender identity is an important part of what we need to teach kids.

And so in a certain sense, I think that we’ve lost the medium-term battle as we’ve just accepted these new norms. But I don’t think it has to stay that way forever. I just think one of the things the conservative movement needs to do better in pushing back against this. This isn’t just to push back, but to actually offer an affirmative alternative vision of identity and American identity, and I think that that’s part of what we’ve been missing for why we haven’t been able to dilute this to irrelevance so far.

CLAY: No doubt. Nikki Haley kind of hinted at that in her announcement today. I know that you’re thinking about running for president as well. Why would you run if you do run and what did you think of Nikki Haley’s announcement today?

RAMASWAMY: So, actually, I haven’t had a chance to see her announced the speech, so I don’t want to comment on it without seeing it. I’m a bit busy with a few other things today. But look, to me, I just think that we live in a moment where my generation — I think most Americans actually — are so hungry for a cause. They’re hungry for purpose and meaning and identity at a point in our national history where the things that used to fill that void — things like faith, patriotism, hard work, even family — have receded.

And that’s what creates this black hole of an identity that my generation — I’d say “our generation” — suffers from. And I see that as an opportunity for the conservative movement. I think if we can fill that vacuum, fill that void with a vision of American national identity that runs so deep, that is how we dilute the poison to irrelevance. And, you know, in my mind, if you look at people my age or younger and you ask them, “What does it mean to be an American in the year 2023?” What do you get? You get a blank stare in response.

And I just think that the Republican Party can do better. It can deliver a powerful answer to that question. And then if we do that — and only if we do that — can we then face the actual challenges we face on the global stage, like the rise of Communist China abroad. And so that’s going to be, you know, I think the central point of… I think it should be the center point of this race. If I enter it, that’s exactly why I would be the one entering it. But, you know, it’s less about the question of the Who to me and more about the question of the what and the why.

What agenda do we stand for? Why do we stand for it? And just to revive basic rules of the road in this country like merit, the idea that you get ahead not on the color of your skin but in the content of your contributions. Free speech and open debate. That, too, is part of what it means to be American — that the people we elect to run the government — How about this one? — are the people who actually run the government rather than a cancerous federal bureaucracy that metastasizes like a cancer. These aren’t even partisan ideas, though I identify as a conservative.

These are basic rules of the road of what it means to be American. And if we can answer that question, then I think we’re well on our way towards a national revival. And, you know, to tell you the truth, this isn’t the 9-9-9 Plan or a Social Security reform package, but I can put in a binder in hand to another candidate to pursue. I think that these are the kinds of ideas that you have to believe in deep in your own bones. You have to have played a role in originating yourself in order to actually fully realize this vision, which is why I’m taking this so seriously.

CLAY: We’re talking to Vivek Ramaswamy, great author, and as you are talking with him, contemplating his own run for president. You mentioned this idea of diversity and inclusion, which has metastasized. I think that’s well said into a situation where many people are being elevated above their talent level. I think the Biden administration is a perfect example of that.

RAMASWAMY: Mmm-hmm.

CLAY: I’ve got a poll question up right now. I’m curious how you would and can’t take all three. I think the only reason Kamala Harris got the VP job is because she’s a black woman, I think pretty much the only reason is, well, Mayor Pete is in this administration is because he’s a gay guy, and I think Karine Jean-Pierre is the White House press secretary because she’s a gay woman. All of those individuals have failed. Right?

RAMASWAMY: Mmm-hmm.

CLAY: They’re doing very poor jobs at the job of which they have. Which one of those do you think has done the worst job so far?

RAMASWAMY: Ooo, that’s. That’s a very. So I would give you Mayor Pete. Mayor Pete has done the worst job, because thankfully, Kamala Harris has stayed away from doing work as much as she possibly can. People complain she didn’t go to the border. My view is the less work she does, the better it is for the country.

CLAY: Yes.

RAMASWAMY: So in a weird way, her not doing anything substantive was actually a great form of national service. But I think Pete has been in a very different position. I mean, you look at the software glitches that caused planes in this country to not be able to fly. You look in my home state where I’m talking to you now from in Ohio. Trains literally falling off tracks, potentially creating environmental and public health disasters, but talking instead — I mean, I’m not making this up — days ago about “construction diversity,” instead; obsessing endlessly about climate change when you know what the things if people are going to die of in this country and that community in Ohio or elsewhere, it’s not going to be climate change.

It’s going to be cancer from that from spills — chemical spills of infrastructure — that’s rotting and being poorly managed. And I just think that, look, if I did take a take a run at this for the 2024 cycle, I’m going after, I think, some of the sacred cows of our time. I think affirmative action is one sacred cow. I think this climate religion is another. I think we need to take both of them to the slaughterhouse. And the reason that we’re not doing it is because we’re hiding behind this identarian view of rewarding people and putting them in positions of power because of the genetic characteristics they inherited from the day they’re born, rather than whether or not they’re good at the job.

And I think there’s a separate problem altogether. You know who you didn’t ask about was Joe Biden who is the person who we actually elected to be president of the United States. And so the sad part is people who are really running the show are this managerial bureaucratic class underneath him. And that’s the real problem, I think, about merit in government. At the very least, let’s make sure the people we elect to run the government are the ones who actually run the government rather than this managerial class that’s then staffed by people who are put their positions. Voters aren’t Voters weren’t ready to elect Kamala Harris whether or not she was a black woman, but are appointed to those positions in part because of these non-meritocratic criteria. That is a big part of the problem.

CLAY: Last question for you, Vivek — and I appreciate you hanging out with us here. You were talking about the lack of purpose, the fact that there may not be necessarily, especially among young people, a cohesive idea of what America is. I’m going to talk on this tomorrow. But I was reading this morning in The Wall Street Journal — and I just want to hit you with these numbers. This is the percentage of high school students in the past year who experienced “persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness.” Fifty-seven of girls in high school experienced that, and 30% of girls say they seriously considered attempting suicide. I mean, those are staggering numbers. They are continuing to skyrocket.

RAMASWAMY: Mmm-hmm. Staggering.

CLAY: My theory is, Vivek, that it’s connected to social media, especially for teenage girls. How do we change this?

RAMASWAMY: So, look, you’re hitting on these are exactly the themes that motivate me to maybe take this next step. There’s this wave of depression, anxiety, a mental health epidemic. Why do you think that is? It is because we as human beings are wired to be called to a higher purpose. And so when we lose that sense of purpose and meaning, we’re lost. Then we tell that next generation — the next thing that’s actually even worse about this is we tell them — that you can’t talk about it in the open. So now you have a loss of purpose.

On one hand, you have a culture that teaches these kids that they can’t actually share their true thoughts in the open. That’s the new censorious culture that we live in. And then against that backdrop, what is social media do? It takes those and picks up those insecurities and puts them on algorithmic steroids. In my view, is, look, if you can’t smoke an addictive cigarette until the age of 18, I don’t think you should be able to use an addictive social media product, at least until the age of 16 either.

CLAY: Yeah.

RAMASWAMY: That’s not a partisan point. But I think that it’s something that even the principled libertarian — I used to identify as a libertarian, I don’t anymore. But even a principled libertarian would say that that doesn’t the principle of liberty doesn’t apply to these kids. Kids should not be able to use addictive, toxic products, at least until they’re fully developed, at least age 16 for social media. But that’s still just symptomatic therapy. That’s still a Band-Aid. The deeper cancer is the loss of purpose, the loss of meaning, the loss of identity. I think we in the conservative movement can do better, and I hope we’ll play a role in whatever way I can in leading us to do better in filling that void of purpose and then creating a culture where we’re actually able to have open conversation again in this country rather than this culture of thought suppression and censorship even in the next generation.

CLAY: Great stuff, as always. How can people find you, Vivek, if they’ve liked what you’ve said today?

RAMASWAMY: They can find me on Twitter at @VivekGRamaswamy. You know, it’s spelled the usual way (chuckles) and the VivekRamaswamy.com has some information on my on my books, and stay tuned. You know I’m going to be making a decision in the relatively near term.

CLAY: Appreciate it, my man. Have a good day.

RAMASWAMY: Thank you, guys.

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Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders Covers All the Issues

14 Feb 2023

CLAY: We are joined now by Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the governor of the great state of Arkansas. Woo pig sooie! And right off the top, hard-hitting question. I understand that you are a Chiefs fan, Sarah, Governor Sanders. And I want to know Patrick Mahomes has two Super Bowls. How many more do you think he’s going to win?

GOV. SANDERS: Oh, that’s a good question, I think. You know, if he stays healthy, he and the Kansas City Chiefs have a pretty big future ahead. He’s young and he makes the game so fun to watch. My husband grew up in Kansas City and his family is still there. And when we started dating, we made an agreement that I would take on all the Kansas City professional teams if he would take on the Arkansas Razorbacks. And so it’s worked out really well for me. The Royals have been to a couple of World Series. The Chiefs have been to the Super Bowl a few times. And so, it’s been a great time to be a Kansas City sports fan. And the Razorbacks, we’ve had some good moments. So, you know, I’m a diehard believer that every season is going to be the season and I’m trying to convince him of that every year a little bit more each time. So, we’re all Hogs and all Chiefs and Royals at our house.

CLAY: For people who haven’t been there, listening to us right now, to Fayetteville, Arkansas, it is a fabulous town, beautiful surroundings. The University of Arkansas, a fantastic university there. And going to games either to watch basketball or football in Fayetteville is really a heck of a trip. It’s one worth making. So, that’s a…I know you’ve been to a ton, but I would imagine you would endorse that as well.

GOV. SANDERS: 100%. I would say you haven’t lived until you’ve been to Arkansas and experienced an SEC match-up. It is spectacular. Obviously, I’m pretty biased, but I don’t think there’s anything better than a Saturday football game in Fayetteville and cheering on the Razorbacks. I love our coach. I think he’s brought so much energy and excitement to the program and would fully endorse anybody coming to visit for basketball, baseball, football, all of the above. Fayetteville’s a really great town. And you know, it’s nice to live in a state, in a way, where we don’t have professional sports teams. It’s like the one unifying thing. Everyone is a Razorback fan. We love the Hogs and we love this.

CLAY: No doubt. And you’re about to get Oklahoma and Texas into the SEC as well, which is going to be a really fabulous rivalry going forward. And certainly, the Hogs have produced a lot of guys out there like Jerry Jones, for instance, who’s a monster Razorback fans, owns the Dallas Cowboys. So, those Arkansas-Texas connections are real. All right. Let’s go to South Carolina, which also has an SEC football program, the Gamecocks. They’ve got a good one in Clemson as well. And their former governor, Nikki Haley, announced earlier today officially that she is running for president in a video release that came out. I imagine you know Nikki Haley pretty well, Sarah. She said before, “Hey, I’m not going to run for president against Trump.” She now is running for president against Trump. What are your thoughts on her campaign? What do you think about the announcement? How do you see that playing out?

GOV. SANDERS: You know, I have a good relationship with the governor and running for office no matter what it is, whether it is at the highest level of running for president or on the local city council or mayor’s race level, it’s a really personal decision, one that only that individual in their family can make. So, I never question anybody’s reasoning for getting into a race. And I feel like you have to go to the place certainly that you are called to do. My dad was told many times he had no business in certain races and went on to win in some places, certainly as governor and did very well when he ran for president. And so, I think it’s a really personal decision and one that you have to make for yourself and certainly wish the governor well. I’ll always love having more strong conservative women voices in the conversation.

CLAY: How do you think Donald Trump is reacting now that she’s officially in the race? You know him pretty well, too.

GOV. SANDERS: Look, he’s the most dominant voice in our party. That’s not going to change overnight and I don’t think it’s changing any time soon. He’s still hands-down the most influential person in the Republican Party. And I don’t think anybody’s challenging or changing that anytime soon. And I think he knows it and no one’s taking his microphone away.

CLAY: All right. So, I don’t know if you were tipped off on this or not. I don’t know if your staff was listening or not. But literally the last part of the show before you came on, Bob in Saint Louis called in. I don’t know if we have Bob’s audio, but I told him I would ask because he said, “Will you please ask Sarah Huckabee Sanders this? Will she be Donald Trump’s vice presidential candidate?” He wants you to be the VP. This again, Bob in Saint Louis. Now, that might have been before he knew that you were a big Kansas City sports fan, because there’s a little bit of rivalry between Saint Louis and Kansas City for people out there who know Missouri well. So, how would you respond to Bob in Saint Louis, who wanted me to ask you if you will be Trump’s vice presidential candidate?

GOV. SANDERS: Look, I’m having the time of my life. I’ve been governor for one month, and I’m really excited to be here in Arkansas and doing things for the people of my state. And I’m looking forward to serving in this role for eight years if the people of Arkansas will have me. So, so far, we are off to the races doing amazing things very quickly. And my only focus right now is on doing a good job here and delivering on all the things that I campaigned on over the last two years.

CLAY: That’s a good answer. That sounds like the answer that you might give from the desk there, or the, I guess, the rostrum in the White House. Karine Jean-Pierre is there now. I know there’s a certain I would say bonhomie, and that’s a word probably that’s never been used before on this show. I don’t know why it came to mind, but sort of a confederation of just people who understand how difficult that job can be. Right? As the White House press secretary, I think they used to pass a flak jacket back and forth. Whether you were a Democrat or a Republican, you’re still kind of in the firing line, basically from the media. How would you assess Karine Jean-Pierre’s performance as an advocate for Joe Biden’s administration?

GOV. SANDERS: You know, I think she’s in a really tough position. I mean, one of the big differences that she and I have is I had a good story to tell. President Trump was doing phenomenal things. Our economy was booming. The country was securing the border. Our allies actually respected us. Our enemies actually feared us. Things were very good under President Trump. And that’s the total and complete opposite of what she has in front of her. As you know, inflation is up again. The economy has not rebounded in the same way under President Biden.

Just here in my home state of Arkansas, we’re paying more than double for gas under this president. Our electricity costs are up, our grocery shelves are empty. The people around the world certainly do not respect us. In fact, I think they are laughing at us on a regular basis. And our border is probably the weakest it’s ever been in history. So, her job in many ways is much more difficult because her story and her facts are really, really hard to sell. And I had the opposite and having a really good story to tell under President Trump. That being said, I think that she could probably do a bit better job on learning some of the facts and disseminating those out to the American people.

CLAY: We’re talking to the governor of Arkansas, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. You had the… well, let me ask you this before. If the Chinese spy balloon had been coming across the country and Donald Trump were president, what would have happened?

GOV. SANDERS: It would have been shot down immediately and we would have never made it into U.S. airspace. That would not have been (garbled) and it certainly wouldn’t have happened multiple times over the course of a week. I mean, it’s unbelievable. Their unwillingness to defend our skies, defend our border and defend the people of this country.

CLAY: No doubt. All right. You had the ability to respond to the State of the Union address. That’s an incredible honor. You were selected to respond to what Biden argued in his State of the Union. What was that experience like? What has the feedback been since you had the opportunity to deliver that address?

GOV. SANDERS: It’s an unbelievable opportunity. It also can be a bit risky. But, you know, I’m incredibly thankful that I had the chance to tell the Republican story and offer what I think is a very sharp contrast to what Joe Biden put out in his State of the Union. To me, it’s really simple. And I laid this out in the speech. We’re at a crossroads in our country that we’re deciding between normal and crazy. And I think that is one of the simplest and also most accurate ways to describe, kind of, the crossroads that we find ourselves in. And the feedback has been very positive from what I’ve seen. And I’m, again, just thankful that I had the opportunity to go out and tell the Republican message and offer what I think was a very sharp contrast to Joe Biden.

CLAY: We mentioned the University of Arkansas and how fabulous Fayetteville is. You are in the process right now of working education in with legislation that would create an education freedom account. What does that mean? What should be happening there, in your opinion, in our education space?

GOV. SANDERS: Well, we’re doing a number of things. We’re putting forward and look forward to passing and signing into law the most comprehensive education reform package anywhere in the country, offering educational freedom accounts that allow parents and empowers parents to make the best decision about where and how their children are educated. We’re also offering transparency in our curriculum and getting rid of things like CRT and the indoctrination of our school kids. At the same time, we are raising teacher pay to go from one of the lowest in the country to one of the highest. Making sure we’re rewarding the hard work of our teachers and also offering additional incentives for our teachers who are going above and beyond and really succeeding in educating our students. A massive focus on literacy and changing the game for what that looks like in our state. We have not done, in my eyes, an acceptable job when it comes to making sure every child in Arkansas can read. And we’re going to change that through the Arkansas learns plan and I think set the standard for what education can look like across the country.

CLAY: Last question for you. It’s Valentine’s Day. Do you have advice for men out there that might have just realized it’s Valentine’s Day at you know, what is it, 1:15 Central Time, 2:15 on the East Coast? How would you advise them to scramble and make sure that they have covered their Valentine’s Day basis?

GOV. SANDERS: I would say, make a plan. It doesn’t have to be elaborate, but have a plan put in place. My husband did a great job, actually went a day early and we had dinner last night, which was very nice.

CLAY: That is a veteran… by the way. Sorry to cut you off, but that is such a veteran move. Go before it’s actually Valentine’s Day and make it clear that you’re doing that. And now that you finish that story, because that’s one that I think is a tip that a lot of married couples for sure, out there could take advantage of.

GOV. SANDERS: Yeah, he absolutely killed it. And, you know, I think most of the time, at least for me, we appreciate just the effort and the plan. And he did exactly that. And tonight, we’re going to trade off and he’s going to take my daughter out for a Valentine’s Day. And I think I’m going to take our two boys. My guess is his Valentine dinner evening will be a little less crazy and chaotic than mine with a 9 and 7-year-olds.

CLAY: I tell my wife, we’ve got three boys, but I think I’m like 90% of the difficulty that she has, even though the boys are also chaotic because she’s basically got four, I tell her she’s living in a frat house. If she ever wondered what that was like. Now she knows already.

GOV. SANDERS: She’s gotta be a true saint. A true saint.

CLAY: Governor Sanders, thank you for the time. She is a true saint, that’s for sure. Thank you for the time. Congratulations, belatedly on the big win in Arkansas. And Bob in Saint Louis is going to be really excited when you’re Trump’s VP.

GOV. SANDERS: (Laughter) Thanks so much. And tell him, “Go Chiefs!”

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Which Biden Administration Diversity Hire Is More of a Disaster?

14 Feb 2023

Unlike the NFL, the Biden White House focuses not on ability but on who checks the most boxes for race, gender, skin color, and nation of birth. Who’s the best example of this by being the worst at their job in the administration?

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This Clip from The View Is So Dumb It’ll Make Your Head Hurt

14 Feb 2023

Clay shared the dumbest of the dumb on television, The View, as they resurrected the demonstrably false claim made by everyone who’s ignorant of football — which is the ultimate meritocracy — that despite the NFL is racist.

Not only is a black player the highest paid in the league, but black players have been charged with rape, theft, and even double murder and kept right on playing, because the league only cares if you can compete.

Those are just a couple of examples Clay shared. Tweet us yours @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email. Plus, remember to subscribe to the iHeartRadio podcast so you don’t miss a minute.

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The Biden Regime Lied: Inflation Still 6.4%

14 Feb 2023

The new numbers are out and inflation remains at 6.4%. That’s killing American families every time they buy groceries, gas, or anything we need to live.

Despite Biden’s State of the Union lies, wages aren’t even close to keeping up.

The Democrats and the Biden regime have been lying to the American people, promising inflation was only temporary.

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Nikki Haley Announces Run to Be Somebody’s VP

14 Feb 2023

The former Republican governor of South Carolina and U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, has announced that despite her promise never to run against Donald Trump for president, she’s doing just that. Here’s her announcement:

The numbers in this poll remain largely unchanged for Haley, as in nobody but Trump or Ron DeSantis has a real shot at being the nominee. It seems that Tulsi Gabbard would bring more than Haley, as a former Democrat and veteran. Clay breaks down all the possibles in the audio link above.

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Valentine’s Day: A Holiday Where Things Can Only Go Wrong (for Men)

14 Feb 2023

Clay lamented the no-win situation that men face on St. Valentine’s Day, warning that tens of thousands of unsuspecting guys out there will get dumped at the Outback Steakhouse tonight — perhaps even before the Bloomin’ Onion arrives.

Clay makes every day Valentine’s Day at home, as he tells his wife, “Because you get to be married to me.” You can try this yourself, gentlemen, but results may vary.

You want to talk about sexism in America today? Just as nobody cares much about Father’s Day but the country comes to a full stop for Mother’s Day, there’s literally no pressure on women to make February 14th special. How is this allowed? It should be simpler:

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