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Liberals Remain Covid Crazy

4 Jan 2023

Masks today, masks tomorrow, masks forever! That’s the left’s anti-scientific obsession, with little care paid to how this idiotic policy fails to save lives and damages the educational development of children.

Oh, by the way, remember when Democrats flipped out over President Trump’s travel ban on China — where the virus originated — calling it racist and bigoted and worse than Hitler? Well, when Democrat Joe Biden does it, it’s just common sense.

What do you think of the left’s obsession with face coverings? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Fight for the Soul of the GOP: Who Will Be Speaker?

4 Jan 2023

It’s Day 2 of the search for a Speaker, with Congressman Kevin McCarthy — the GOP leader — struggling to find enough votes to put him over the top. Clay & Buck break down what this means for the next two years of Republican governance.

Whose party is this? Does it belong to McCarthy, Trump, or someone else? For whatever it means, the former president is going heavy in his support for McCarthy.

This story continues to develop, and we consider to monitor it.

What do you think the GOP’s messy battle in the House means for the stop-Biden agenda? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Clay Discusses the Damar Hamlin Injury with Megyn Kelly

4 Jan 2023

Clay visited Megyn Kelly’s show to talk about the tragic injury on Monday Night Football.

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What’s the Secret Strategy of the House Speaker Battle?

3 Jan 2023

For the first time in a century, the vote for Speaker of the House could drag into multiple ballots. Congressman Kevin McCarthy came on this show and expressed a strategy boiled down to this: If not me, who? Steve Scalise? Elise Stefanik?

The answer could be other Republicans, or in a real shocker, the Democrat minority leader, Hakeem Jeffries, who even some Republicans are willing to support.

What do you think the messy vote for speakership means for Republicans going forward as a roadblock to Biden’s disastrous policies? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Forensic Expert Joseph Scott Morgan on Arrest in Idaho Murders

3 Jan 2023

BUCK: We wanted to update you with the latest on this case of the four college students who were brutally murdered with a knife in Moscow, Idaho. We know that there is an individual in custody. We want to know how were they able to find him — to the best of our ability to figure this out — and what is the, at this stage, gravity of the evidence against him, the totality of it against him? Joseph Scott Morgan is with us now. He’s a distinguished scholar of applied forensics. Joseph, appreciate you joining us once again. I know you got a chance to speak to Clay. Tell everybody where this stands right now. How were they able to track this individual down based on the news reports, based on what we’ve seen?

MORGAN: Hey, fellas. How are y’all? Happy New Year. Thanks for having me back. You know that the reality is, is that they have some type of physical evidence at this point in time, that’s going to be a biological tie back on the subject. My understanding, at this point, there’s been a lot of back and forth relative to DNA evidence. We don’t know exactly how they acquired it. We’ve heard that the scene was just saturated in blood. So I think that that’s kind of a starting point for us. We don’t know at this point, obviously, if he was injured in this assault.

Remember, this is a sharp-edged weapon that this fella was using. And many times, in my experience, at least, you have these events where subjects will cut themselves, and you’ll have this kind of what’s referred to as co-mingling of blood. And if that’s the case, they would have had to have separated out all of the DNA profiles. You know, obviously you’ve got known profiles. You’ve got these four victims, the four young people that were killed. You know now there were the two down in the basement. I’m sure that they probably did cheek swabs or mucosal swabs on them.

They’d be eliminated any of their intimate partners. And then, you know what? It was unknown from within the house. At that point in time, it gets a bit more complicated. They have to try to suss that out and try to understand who this unknown is and talk around the campfire — at least at this point in time — that we’re kind of hearing is that they may have used genetic genealogy here, which, you know, they’re looking for common ancestors, essentially somebody that has submitted a DNA sample to one of these companies to try to figure out their past.

BUCK: Can I jump in just to make sure that I’m clear?

MORGAN: Yeah.

BUCK: So you’re saying then, Joseph, it is possible. I know you’re not saying that, but you’ve heard that the break in this case may be related to somebody doing Ancestry.com, 23andMe, etc., and they’re able to track from that. Is that the theory?

MORGAN: Yeah. Yeah, I think that’s the drift right now. You know, there are those cases that are out there, because this guy is not… The subject, the accused, is not in a database. He’s not in CODIS. You know, he’s not a prior sex offender or anything like that. So you didn’t have a profile on board. So you start with an unknown at this point in time. I thought — I think many of us were thinking in my field, at least, you know, we’re kind of kicking around some of my colleagues and, you know, kind of thinking about this — sometimes you’ll have these cases where, you know, they’ll put a team on you and they’re watching you; they suspect that you might be this person.

They have unknown DNA at the scene and then you leave a cup laying around or straw or a napkin, you know, and — you know, guys — once you throw that away, you throw in the trash, it’s no longer yours. They collect it and they run it. But, you know, it just seems like they’re sitting on top of this. And they probably have known for a while, I would imagine. But they have a lot… This biological material is very, very dense. So it took them a bit of time to kind of work out the profiles in this. But it would seem this, along with some other forensic evidence that’s going to come to light, I think we’re going to hear about it in the next couple of days.

CLAY: So, first of all, thanks for coming on again. We got great feedback. Joseph Scott Morgan When you see it appears that this guy, this suspect, was basically getting a Ph.D. in forensics and therefore may have been almost training to be a serial killer —

MORGAN: Yeah.

CLAY: — or have been driven into a life of potential crime based on this attraction to a dark side in some way. Would that help to explain maybe the difficulties that have initially ensued that this guy was basically aware of some of the criminal procedures that would be undertaken? In other words, for people, like in your world of forensics, you probably would be way better at committing a crime because you know how people have gotten caught.

MORGAN: Right.

CLAY: Does it surprise you that the guy would maybe be coming out of this study in this field — for people who don’t know, he’s purportedly, that suspect, a Washington State grad student basically getting a doctorate in criminology and forensics.

MORGAN: Yeah. Well, yeah. Let me draw a fine line here because it’s in criminology and, you know, there’s this idea that’s kind of floating around out there in criminology, forensics people are saying we’re not at all. And, you know, he’s more of a behaviorist.

CLAY: Okay.

MORGAN: That’s kind of what he was studying when he was at DeSales, you know? Yeah. He knows something about behavior. But keep in mind, you know, in all of these academic institutions like this, they’re a theoretical environment. Okay? In forensics, plot should be applied. You know, even the university I teach at, we teach applied forensics and that is, you know, you go from A to Z in a process, a scene. He does not have that kind of background. Now, he has a morbid curiosity, I think, in criminal behavior. The criminal mind always sorts things.

After he’s watched by playing a television, he’s probably fascinated by all of this, and how bad guys minds kind of work. But he does not know the nuts and bolts of forensic science. And, you know, if he went in, prepare to do something — if this subject went in, the accused went in to do something — he’s always going to miss something. Trust me. Because, again, there’s so much physical evidence here and we have ways in my field, my colleagues, of kind of rooting out at a molecular level these things that are specific tiebacks to any individual that was in that environment.

CLAY: Basically you told us — yeah, I’m sorry to cut you off. But you were like, any time you do anything, you leave a trace behind. That’s kind of the bible of forensics, right?

MORGAN: Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

CLAY: So even if you were a genius criminal, it’s impossible to have a quote unquote perfect crime scene. Right, because there’s always something that’s being left behind. Is that accurate?

MORGAN: Yes. Yes, it is. You know, there is no perfect crime. There is just absolutely not, because there’s always a human factor in it. And it might be our own, you know, self-love — our desire, our lack of focus — that’s going to trip us up. Science will always… (laughs) Science will always catch you in the end, because it’s an absolute when you begin to talk about numbers and all these things. It’s not a theoretical kind of construct. We’re basing things on numbers and “Do they add up?” And, you know, when you start to get out into the areas of DNA, you know, we’re talking about one in a million, one in 10 billion, you know, depending upon what kind of sample you have that has been run.

This is not even… It’s more accurate than even fingerprints, if you will, and certainly back in the days when we were just using, relying on things like blood typing — you know, the rare blood is like a neg. I think that’s like one in 240 people. You know, now you’re into the one-in-some odd billion. Okay? So that kind of… When you start going against those numbers, and you look at that and the ability of the people that work in the field now, it’s a tough mountain to climb, guys.

BUCK: Joseph Scott Morgan, distinguished scholar of applied forensics. You can listen to his podcast on iHeart, the Body Bags podcast. Joseph, as this continues to play out, we’ll have you back. Thanks for being with us.

MORGAN: Please do, guys. Happy New Year to everybody.

BUCK: Yes, sir. You too.

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WSJ Editorial Goes There: Covid Shots Fuel New Covid Variants

3 Jan 2023

Allysia Finley in the Wall Street Journal, echoing what we have been saying for some time: “Public-health experts are sounding the alarm about a new Omicron variant dubbed XBB that is rapidly spreading across the Northeast U.S. Some studies suggest it is as different from the original Covid strain from Wuhan as the 2003 SARS virus.”

Meanwhile, Biden is still clinging to this idoitic notion of shots forever.

And if you dare ask any quesitons — which is the basis of scientific discovery — you’re an enemy of the state.

Remember, we have it on record what all these people said, despite the fact that they try to deny it and never apologize for getting it wrong.

Almost like it is going to be two Americas.

Are you done with getting the covid shots or still going dutifully for every new jab? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Child Abuse in Paterson, NJ Public Schools

3 Jan 2023

In blue states, Democrats leading dysfunctional cities are still clinging to the anti-science notion that masks — which just means anything you want to put over your face — are protection from covid. This despite the fact that something like zero heathy young people have died.

What do you think about forced masking up in schools? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Controversy Rages After Damar Hamlin Collapses on MNF, Charity Raises Over $4M

3 Jan 2023

A shocking incident cut short Monday Night Football yesterday, when Buffalo Bills safety Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field against the Bengals in Cincinnati after going into cardiac arrest. He’s now in critical condition, and some are asking how it could have happened, while others are making it all about the fact that Hamlin happens to be black.

The fan community has come to Hamlin’s aid. You can do so, too, if you have the necessary means.

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C&B’s Movie and TV Picks from Christmas Break

3 Jan 2023

Happy New Year! To kick of 2023, Clay & Buck returned with an installment of their movie picks. Click above to listen. Still floating atop the box office is Avatar 2.

Here are some other timeless classics you can enjoy:



Check out more of Clay and Buck’s recommendations for film, TV and books here. What films did you enjoy over Christmas and New Year’s as we swept into 2023? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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DeSantis Declares Florida “Land of Sanity”

3 Jan 2023

Floridians gave their governor, Ron DeSantis, a 20-point blowout reelection victory. The message was clear: They want more of the science-based, freedom-based, constitutional policies he brought to a nation suffering under left-wing problems like inflation, crime, high taxes, and malaise.

What do you want to see Governor DeSantis deliver in his second term? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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