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The Democrats’ Jan. 6th Lies Have Succeeded, So They Won’t Stop

6 Jan 2023

The fact that leftists are celebrating January 6th like a secular holiday with zero pushback from the right shows just how much hay they’ve been able to make out of politicizing an event that was mostly people taking selfies, and yet they’ve been allowed to put on par with the Civil War, Pearl Harbor, and 9/11.

The left can hardly hide their glee, despite the sad faces they paint on for TV and the pretense of neutrality from party members.

This is the narrative that Democrats are setting in steel. This riot, however, will be sent down the memory hole.

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C&B VIP Video: Biden and Trump Make Big Border News

5 Jan 2023

Biden made a big speech on the border and President Trump countered with a controversial proposal he says he’ll employ if he’s elected. Watch Clay and Buck cover it all.

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Rep. Dan Bishop Explains His Vote Against McCarthy

5 Jan 2023

BUCK: The ruckus on the House floor continues — who will be the next Speaker? We have somebody who can give some special insight to this because he is right there right now in Congress and about to vote. But he’s joining us for a couple of moments here to tell us what’s going on. Congressman Dan Bishop is with us right now. Congressman Bishop, appreciate your being with us, sir.

REP. BISHOP: Hello. Glad to be with you. I just missed my name (laughing) — a little bit fast, but I can go up and vote at the end, which you can do that. But I’m glad to have a chance to speak with you all.

BUCK: We really appreciate you making the time as this vote is underway and you’re going to be casting your vote. And let’s start with the most pressing question. How are you going to vote on this eighth ballot and why, Congressman?

REP. BISHOP: (laughing) The suspense must be killing everybody. I’m going to vote for Byron Donalds of Florida, and the answer is because the institution of the United States House needs to be changed. It needs to be put to work for the American people, not for D.C. We cannot continue Nancy Pelosi-style governance here in the House.

CLAY: So how does this play out? So we’re on, I believe, the eighth vote right now.

REP. BISHOP: Yeah.

CLAY: If you are still going to vote for Byron Donalds, that would suggest that the 20 or so of which you are a member who will not support the current, expected Speaker here. How does this end? Like where do where do we go from here? How do you see this playing out?

REP. BISHOP: You know, from sampling the media and interviews and inquiries I’ve had, that’s the question seems to be on everybody’s mind. And I understand that it is. And the answer is that I don’t precisely know. But that is the beauty of the process we’re engaged in, and a lot of people are wringing their hands, or you see on some places out on media, “It’s chaos!” It’s not chaos. This is how Congress operates, and so we’ve had three days — that the nation will certainly endure — in which we’ve been in…

You know, there’s something on there’s a spectacle on TV about votes that American people aren’t accustomed to seeing, and there’s a lot of work that’s going on in the background and has been for months to do what I said at the top, which is to change this place and make it work, because at least in my sense, I don’t know that many people — I’ve not encountered that many — who say, “You know what? Congress works exactly as it should. It’s basically solving the American people’s problems and keeping things working well.” I don’t think anybody thinks that. I’ve found about 90% of the people think otherwise.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Congressman Bishop. He’s on the floor right now — or, I should say, in Congress right now up on Capitol Hill — and about to be casting his vote on the floor. He will be casting it for Speaker of the House, for Byron Donalds, not for Kevin McCarthy; we’ve established that. Congressman Bishop, of course, of North Carolina for everybody out there, what is it that…? What is it that would be different? Let’s say, let’s just say for the purpose of discussion, that Congressman Donalds is successful eventually — and, who knows, could be on the 50th ballot given how things are going. If that were to happen, how would Congress be different than a Kevin McCarthy speakership?

REP. BISHOP: Here’s the clearest way that I could even say it. Two weeks ago, we passed, rammed through the House after coming out of the Senate with 18 Republican votes, a $1.7 trillion omnibus — put together by a handful of people in the dark, in the back rooms — that has all sorts of horrible stuff in it. I’ve detailed it in a long Twitter thread that went viral — some of it, what you can — 4,800 pages. They put it out two days before we pass it, right before Christmas, ram it through “or else the government’s going to shut down.”

That would stop, and we’re working on stopping that regardless who the Speaker becomes by changing rules and processes. But those can always be waived by a majority vote on the House floor, and so what you really need… The best way to guarantee change is to have a person who will lead you to change. But if you can’t get that, then you’ve got to do the best you can to build processes and build pressure so that you follow through and do the right things. It is a tough call, but it’s really important that it succeed.

CLAY: So you’re voting for Byron Donalds, you said, although you haven’t got to cast that vote yet on the eighth ballot here as they search for a Speaker. But yesterday I believe it was, Cori Bush, Democrat from Missouri, attacked him based on his race.

REP. BISHOP: Right.

CLAY: I mean, it was basically blatantly racist for being up as potentially a Speaker candidate. I believe you spoke on the floor earlier to address that issue. What did you say and what did you think of what Cori Bush said about Byron Donalds, the man who you intend to vote for as Speaker of the House?

REP. BISHOP: I put it out there in my in my speech nominating him on the first ballot of the day, and what she said about him in a tweet, she called him “a prop,” and you’d need to know Byron Donalds to know how absurd it is. He’s not a prop, and this is — and the reason I spoke of it today, and of one other incident that has occurred is — utter illustrations of Washington, D.C. that people are completely familiar with. They’ve seen it for years and years. That grotesquely racist trope is used constantly by the left here. It’s got to stop. We’ve got to quit doing things exactly the same way in the same order and expect different results, and I just think it’s reprehensible. And calling it out, just like doing this is the kind of thing that men and women of courage are going to need to come here and do and (chuckles) I got to tell you, if you don’t have courage here, it’s never going to change.

BUCK: Congressman Bishop, can I ask…? There’s some reporting from earlier today that McCarthy had agreed to a number of specific asks from members of the Freedom Caucus who had been voting against him and voting for another candidate. A whole range of things, a vote on term limits, whether somebody could vote for effectively — what is it, a no-confidence vote to remove the Speaker? Is there a future you could see in which if certain assurances are given and promises are made, you could see Kevin McCarthy win despite the opposition against him because there would have been concessions made that would deal with some of the concerns of the Freedom Caucus. Or is it no way, no how you and other members — to your knowledge — are going to actually vote for McCarthy when this is all said and done?

REP. BISHOP: You know, I think the important thing is that there are a number of risks to be managed. You’ve got to solve the problem of fixing the place for the American people. Beyond that, I don’t have pre-conditions. It just has to get fixed. So I wouldn’t say I’m gonna, I wouldn’t say I’m not, because I think we’ve gotta preserve the possibility to do something that’s new.

CLAY: Representative Dan Bishop talking with us. You mentioned all the work you did, and your staff did, and I appreciate you for the work you did on the omnibus bill and what you put out there — even though, ridiculously, 18 Republicans in the Senate went along with that bill, and we talked about your work and your staff’s work on this show, as in a lead up to that 7 trillion. You’re seeing a lot of people voted for right now. Do you believe that whoever the Speaker is should be a currently serving member of the House? Because I saw where Matt Gaetz, for instance, put Donald Trump forward as the Speaker of the House nominee. Do you believe that it should be somebody who is currently a member of the House of Representatives, or do you think that an external candidate could make sense?

REP. BISHOP: I am open to every possibility that will get the job done, and so — and I hate to do this, but I’m about to miss my opportunity to vote.

BUCK: No, no, sir. You’ve gotta go vote.

CLAY: You gotta go. Yes.

REP. BISHOP: All right, guys.

BUCK: So, yes, I understand. Congressman Dan Bishop, thank you so much for speaking to our audience across the country about this pivotal issue.

REP. BISHOP: Definitely.

BUCK: Go do your constitutional duty, sir. Appreciate you joining us here on the program.

REP. BISHOP: Thanks a lot.

BUCK: Thank you very much.

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Former Navy SEAL Shawn Ryan Responds to Biden on the Border

5 Jan 2023

BUCK: First time on the show, our friend Shawn Ryan is joining us now. He’s a former Navy SEAL and CIA contractor and host of the Shawn Ryan Show podcast. Shawn, thanks so much for being with us. Appreciate it.

RYAN: Thanks for having me. Thanks. Good to be talking to you guys.

BUCK: You know, first off, I wanted to have you react to this. You know, Biden gave this speech earlier today about immigration. And while we were talking a lot about asylum and the app that apparently now all the illegal immigrants are going to use to try to whatever. Point is, there’s a lot of other pieces to this as well, including the cartels and the fentanyl and how the lawless border allows for all this to happen. Here’s what Biden said about fentanyl specifically. Play 23.

BIDEN: For example, since August of last year, Customs and Border Patrol has seized more than 20,000 pounds of den… deadly fentanyl. That’s enough to kill — kill — as many as 1,000 people in this country. Twenty-thousand pounds of fentanyl. It’s a killer.

BUCK: I mean, 20,000 pounds of fentanyl could kill, I would just guessed more like hundreds of thousands, or maybe even a few million people. But, nonetheless, Biden doesn’t seem to want to do anything, Shawn, about the cartels. What do you think could be done? How do we secure the border when it comes to this threat?

RYAN: I mean, I think number one would be taking the reins off our Border Patrol agents. Number two would be putting a wall or some type of a structure up. I mean, a lot of people say, “That’s not going to stop anything,” to include a lot of the cartel-type experts who are talking about how they’re getting these things in. But I mean, just looking at the way… I mean, walls do stop things. It’s at least going to slow the traffic down. You know?

CLAY: Shawn, when you… Yeah, it’s always fascinating when people say, “Walls don’t work,” and then you find out that they live in a gated community.

RYAN: (laughing)

CLAY: It’s like, well, you know, it does… Explain. I’d love to hear the next follow up. Like when somebody says, “Walls don’t work,” and then you have the over-the-top follow up, “Well, why do you live in a gated community then?” Trump has come out with his own plan, and it basically would involve declaring the drug cartels a national security threat to America, which would allow us to basically treat them — my understanding is — like terrorists. Is that an irrational act? A rational act? What could we do if we really wanted to decide, “Hey, these cartels are public enemy number one.”

RYAN: I mean, you have to be able to send them a very stern message. And with the way our Border Patrol guys, their hands are tied behind their back, you know, and they’re scrutinized by the media. They’ve completely demoralized that entire agency. You know, and so they have to let these guys do their job in order to have any effect on this at all, you know, and you know, Buck, what bothers me the most is — well, maybe not the most, but — where all this is coming from. It’s not just the cartels.

BUCK: Yeah.

RYAN: The Chinese are enabling the cartels with all this fentanyl. That’s who’s training these guys to make the world’s deadliest fentanyl. And they’re already starting to transition. They’ve made the transition from heroin to fentanyl. Now they’re going to make another transition from fentanyl to this next thing, which I don’t think they’ve named it yet, but it’s already comin’ through the border.

BUCK: Do you think, Shawn, at this point, given how much money the cartels are making…? We’re speaking to Shawn Ryan of the Shawn Ryan Show, everybody, former Navy SEAL. Shawn, given how powerful the cartels are, we know that they’re able to pay effectively mercenaries off the global market to work for them to even train some of their sicarios. What do you think it looks like if we decided to get much more involved in the Narco War in Mexico, assuming the Mexican government would even allow that, do you think that we could make a real dent there? I mean, if the Mexican government said, “You know what? Fine. We’ll allow our special operations to train even more extensively,” I know there’s training that goes on already, but much more extensively “and even engage in joint missions on a regular basis,” do you think that could degrade the cartels in a significant fashion?

RYAN: Absolutely it would. You know, the thing that people don’t realize about these cartels is they’re very militaristic. It’s not… If they could go back to, you know, say, when we were fighting Taliban, Al-Qaeda, you know, they’d blend in with civilian population. These cartels are trained militaries. They’re pulling people off the street, they’re handing them an AK and a uniform, and they have their own turf wars going on inside Mexico, which is an all-out… It’s an all-out front. You know, and so if we interdict some of those areas, that’s going to disrupt a lot of the activity.

CLAY: Shawn, you’re a Navy SEAL. You’re a badass. You know, a lot of badasses as well. When you see how woke our military has become, what kind of conversations do you have with your fellow past and current Navy SEALs, and how much frustration is there with military leadership in general, in your experience?

RYAN: I would say on a level of 1 to 10, it’s a level 10. The conversations I have with the guys that I served with, they’re both out and wrapping up their careers. Most of the guys that I was in with are wrapping up their 20-year careers by this point. And, you know, once again, they’ve demoralized the entire military. Nobody wants to go into Special Operations. The guys that are in there, nobody wants to stay in Special Operations. Everybody wants out because of the woke agenda that’s coming into to all of the teams.

CLAY: How could you solve it? We get that question all the time, like how frustrated so many people in the military are with the culture that currently exists. Let’s say that you got to be in charge, you and your buddies at the Navy SEALs and you could go back in and de-wokeify the military. How would you do it? What would need to occur?

RYAN: You know, I mean, I try to look at both sides of the fence here. And if they do need more diversification in the military, then okay. So be it. What I would do is go to the combat-effective units and say, “Does this help with the mission? Is it going to help to bring this wokeness into the SEAL teams, into the Green Beret teams, into the JSOC teams?” No, it’s not. It’s going to create frustration. It’s going to create anxiety. It’s going to break up the team dynamic. What people don’t understand about Special Operations is the team that you’re with, you know them better than your family. You spend a good 300 days a year with the gents on your team and 50 days a year with your family, and so when you inject something that’s out of the norm, that puts guys in an uncomfortable situation, that completely destroys the team dynamic, and that team dynamic is (audio drop). That’s what drives everything. It’s the trust that the team has with each other, and that’s why they’re able to carry out these, I mean, next-to-impossible missions.

BUCK: Shawn Ryan Show, everybody, is really strong stuff. I mean, he does sit-downs long forms with warriors, Navy SEALs, Green Beret. He did a long form, Clay, with Erik Prince. That was fascinating. He’s done some great stuff over there, so I’d recommend people check it out. Shawn, thank you for your service and thanks for joining us here. We’ll talk to you again soon.

RYAN: Thank you, Buck. We’ve got to get you on the show too, soon.

BUCK: Any time, sir. Thanks for being with us.

RYAN: Cheers. `

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“Who Won the Game?” Phenomenal News on Damar Hamlin

5 Jan 2023

An incredible, inspiring turn in the recovery of Damar Hamlin, sent into cardiac arrest by a hit during Monday Night Football’s Bills-Bengals game. Who could have hoped for anything this great?

What do you think of Hamlin’s first comments since sustaining his injury? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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We’re Never Letting This Go

5 Jan 2023

The left has made a fetish out of forcing people to wear pointless masks, which do not protect from covid or make you look smart, not to mention all the damage they do to young people. Since they’re never giving up on this anti-science position, Clay & Buck will be talking about masks so long as they continue to draw (free) breath.

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Super-Chilling Details Emerge on Idaho Murder Suspect

5 Jan 2023

DNA on a knife sheath linked suspect Bryan Kohberger to the four Idaho student murders, one roommate saw a masked man, and other new details were released into police documents, answering some questions Clay & Buck have but raising a lot of new ones.

What do you think of the latest super-chilling details in the Moscow Murder Mystery? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Does It Matter Who’s Speaker?

5 Jan 2023

As the endless voting drags on to decide who will lead the House of Representatives, Congressman Kevin McCarthy of California seems no closer to closing the deal. Does it even matter who gets the job?

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Trump’s Bold Proposal to Fight the Cartels

5 Jan 2023

President Trump has returned to his signature issue — ending the invasion from the rest of the world — with a bold proposal to deploy the U.S. military to protect our borders the same way we protect those of other nations around the world.

What do you think of the former president’s proposal? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Biden Solves Border Crisis: An App for Mass “Asylum”

5 Jan 2023

With the border a mess, Clay & Buck call for an examination of birthright citizenship. But President Biden’s solution is high-tech and sexier: Just create an app where anyone who wants to come to the U.S. illegally can get in here as easily as playing Candy Crush!

Biden also trotted out yet another word game. It’s not “amnesty” if you call it something else!

Plus, now Title 42 — which is the only thing preventing us from being overrun — is now the problem. You cannot make this backwards talk up.

The rule of law is being eroded each and every day.

Biden also demonstrated once again that he has no clue what’s motivating the surge of illegal immigration.

What do you think of Biden’s attempt to spin his way into keeping the border wide open? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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