Clay Breaks Down the Latest Twitter Files Drop

9 Dec 2022

Clay joined Hannity, along with former Trump adviser Stephen Miller, to discuss the blockbuster Twitter Files Part 2, which revealed what we all already knew: Twitter was shadow-banning conservatives.

Thanks to Elon Musk, we now have the receipts. It’s one of the biggest crimes in American political history.

Yet another “right wing conspiracy” proven to be 100% accurate. The next step @elonmusk needs to be a sortable database of all popular public figure accounts so people can search and see which accounts were being manipulated and how.

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) December 9, 2022

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Jeff Smulyan on His New Book and the Future of Media

8 Dec 2022

CLAY: We are joined now by media giant — I’d like to be referred to that one day — radio industry veteran Jeff Smulyan. He has done an amazing job as the CEO of Emmis Communications. He’s got a brand-new book, Never Ride a Rollercoaster Upside Down: The Ups, Downs, and Reinvention of an Entrepreneur. And I love this, Jeff, and thank you for coming on with us. You say there’s a fine line between a genius and an idiot. Uh, some people would say we walk that line — sometimes straying in both directions — on this radio program every day. What have you found in business about that fine line?

SMULYAN: Well, I’ve said, you know, that there is a fine line, and I’ve been on many sides many times, both sides. And I, in the book, I have a chapter “Idiot to Genius,” which is the start of WFAN, which is the first all-sports radio station. And all of our guys said it was the single stupidest idea of all time. Jim Lampley called it the Vietnam War of Emmis, and it was kind of a disaster. And since it was my baby, I got needled about it. They called it Smulyan’s Folly. And then one day it turned around.

We put Don Imus on the air. We had Russo and Francesa. And the next day it was a national success. And I went from idiot to genius. And then after that, we bought the Seattle Mariners and I was kind of the boy wonder out there, and I was signing autographs and doing all sorts of interviews, and everybody loved the marketing and the new look of the team. And I was a genius. And then when it didn’t work, I became an idiot. I always said, “There’s nothing worse than being an idiot in front of 40,000 people every night.” So that’s life.

BUCK: Go ahead. Go ahead, Jeff.

SMULYAN: No, I just said that that’s what I’ve learned about life. That’s why it’s a roller coaster. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. You’ve just got to, you know, grit your teeth and smile through all of it.

BUCK: If someone’s coming up to you and they say, “You know, I think I want to either start a business or take a big risk,” you know, an expansion. So, some form of entrepreneurial shift or elevation. If someone’s like, “I want to do this –”

SMULYAN: Yeah.

BUCK: How do you advise them? Because I know we get a lot of people listening who maybe already have a business or are thinking about starting a business. And they might sit back and say, “Oh, I don’t know. Should I really do this?” What do you say when people come up to you as somebody who have tried things and had big successes but also taken big risks?

SMULYAN: Well, and that’s why I wrote the book. I think… Listen, I think if you believe in something and you love it and you’re willing to, you know, put it on the line and have that kind of passion, I think you can be successful. You aren’t always successful. But I think, you know, if you want to do something, you care passionately enough about it, you’ve got to do it.

CLAY: You started sports-talk radio —

SMULYAN: Right.

CLAY: — and people out there listening know that I came from the sports talk radio universe. You also owned the Seattle Mariners at one point.

SMULYAN: Right.

CLAY: I’m curious. Buck and I were just talking. This DeSantis versus Trump battle reminds me of Alabama versus Auburn. It reminds me of Ohio State versus Michigan. Conversations that can take place depending on those marketplaces every single day — Yankees-Red Sox is another good one — where that rivalry is so passionate, it fuels the conversation all the time.

SMULYAN: Right.

CLAY: What did you find about sports, talk radio? And a lot of people dream about it, but what was it like owning a pro sports franchise?

SMULYAN: Well, one of my favorite lines is somebody once said, “Every man in America once owned a major league baseball team except the 28 guys who do.”

CLAY: (laughing)

SMULYAN: But I loved it. We made a lot of friends. I was proud of the work we did in Seattle. I always said we weren’t rich enough to own the Mariners. I joked and said, “You really had to be a billionaire on the Mariners or the Kansas City Royals,” but if you had a good paper route, you’d get on the Yankees or the Dodgers. You know, it was just… The economics were wildly different in those days, but I loved it. I’m really proud of some of the things, the stuff we invented in the ballpark — situational music, movie clips and contests and games — you see everywhere now. But it was absolutely revolutionary then.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Jeff Smulyan, and he’s the founder and CEO of Emmis Communications. His book is Never Ride a Roller Coaster Upside Down — good advice, by the way — The Ups, Downs, and Reinvention of an Entrepreneur. Jeff, what are the trends that you see right now in media? I mean, we’re talking to you right now on radio stations across America, but we also have a website, ClayAndBuck.com. We’ve got podcasts going. We’ve got streaming video. You know, Clay built a digital sports business at OutKick. We both do hits on TV at Fox. What do you see as the trajectory right now? Streaming is a big part of the conversation. Subscription service is a big part of the conversation. Where do you see it all going?

SMULYAN: Well, it’s all fragmented so much. And I think, you know, the biggest challenge of streaming is can you find enough subscribers? Can you find an economic model? It’s easier with talk than it is with music because you have giant music royalties, which is why Spotify went into podcasting, you know, so they didn’t have to pay the royalties. It’s a fragmented world. If you follow the streaming services in video, there’s a big question as to whether the regional sports networks can survive because so many people have cut the cords.

We have, you know, 300 and what, 40 million people and everybody’s got, you know, fragmented places they go. And it’s hard to know how it will shake out, only that it’s totally different, and you have to sort of be flexible enough to adapt. I think you guys have done a brilliant job, you know, putting your content in a lot of different places. It may work in some places. It may not be profitable in others. But I think we’re in an era where you just have to experiment with a lot of different things.

CLAY: We get the question a lot, Jeff — and I appreciate you coming on and the book sounds really fascinating. If you were talking to a young person today and Buck said, you know, you’re interested in entrepreneurship. But if you were interested in moving into media —

SMULYAN: Right.

CLAY: — what would you tell them is the most important thing they should be learning in order to train themselves going forward?

SMULYAN: Well, again, I think there’s two things. I think, number one, the most important thing is your word. When you work with somebody, if they know your word is good and they trust you, that helps you an awful lot in any enterprise. I don’t care whether it’s starting a job or being married or having kids or having friends. I also think, again, you have to have the passion. I tell people starting out when you get a new job, volunteer for more stuff. The more people can count on you and the more you are willing to go out and do things, the more you move up the food chain.

CLAY: No doubt the book is fabulous. We need to have you on maybe somewhere down the line. Again, we appreciate all the support you’ve shown for this show. And we would encourage everybody out there to go make sure that they check it out. The book again: Never Ride a Rollercoaster Upside Down: The Ups, Downs, and Reinvention of an Entrepreneur. On the way out, I’ll let you say this. You obviously have an incredible uplifting sort of mindset about you. How much of your success do you think is internal based on the energy that you put out into the world for everybody out there in terms of their own lives?

SMULYAN: Well, I think it’s internal because I think you have to have a spark. Although I’ve said… Somebody said, “What does it take to be an entrepreneur?” I said, “Look, we’re all the entrepreneurs of our own lives.” You know that… We really are. I think part of the internal part of it is I’ve been fortunate to work with people my whole career who I just love and who make me look smarter that I am every day, and that helps a lot.

CLAY: No doubt. Jeff Smulyan is the author. We encourage you to go check out his book. Thank you for the time today, sir.

SMULYAN: Thanks. Thanks, guys. It was great.

BUCK: Thank you.

CLAY: No doubt.

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Tell Us What You Think: Blame Trump or MAGA Forever?

8 Dec 2022

After author Ann Coulter brought the heat in her interview, Clay & Buck turned to this great audience to get their opinions on President Trump’s future. Do we move on or stick with the MAGA train? You can hear the range of opinions in the audio link above.

The one and only @AnnCoulter did not hold back today on the future of the GOP and Donald Trump- https://t.co/G4IW2COyf8

— Buck Sexton (@BuckSexton) December 8, 2022

Here’s the moment the world started turning on their radios:

I’m coming up on the Clay & Buck show in MINUTES!

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) December 8, 2022

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Bombs Away with Ann Coulter: It’s Trump! It’s Trump! It’s Trump!

8 Dec 2022

BUCK: We have a special guest joining us, the one and only Ann Coulter. She is, of course, the author of 13 New York Times bestsellers and has a Substack and a syndicated column. So subscribe to Ann’s Substack for video content and her column there. Ms. Coulter, I hear from a little a little voice in the background that it is your birthday. So happy birthday, first and foremost to you.

COULTER: Thank you! Yes, that’s because I tell everyone weeks in advance. (laughs)

BUCK: So, we’re pleased to be part of your celebration today. So, Ann, I wanted to ask you, you know, we have these stories going on every day now, it seems — at least, you know, Fox is covering it. Clay and I talk about it. The border is so bad and so dystopian when it comes to lawlessness, constant illegal crossings. And it’s all really… Well, I shouldn’t say all, but it’s primarily through asylum requests. Right? So it’s not even “Oh, if only we would catch these people.” They’re turning themselves in in huge numbers and saying, “I want asylum.” None of them are going to get asylum, but they’re pretending like this is the whole scam. Then they get let into the country. They stay, they don’t get — no one gets deported. Basically, under Biden, I thought this should be a bigger issue in the midterms. Why don’t people care more about this? Do they care more about this? What do you think?

NEW: An enormous single group of nearly 700 migrants crossed illegally into Eagle Pass, TX during the pre dawn hours this morning, almost all of them single adults. Several busloads of migrants had been transported away by Border Patrol by the time our team got on scene. @FoxNews pic.twitter.com/clt1WQ52jl

— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) December 8, 2022

COULTER: Oh, it’s a huge vote-getter. It’s a problem, though, getting Republican politicians to talk about immigration, because — as you’ve heard me banging on about for years — the donors want the cheap labor. They want to open borders the same way the left does and they got politicians’ ears. I mean, that’s what was so great about Trump’s 2016 campaign. Once the campaign was over and he won the election, everything he was ever going to accomplish had been accomplished, and that was just showing politicians — I don’t care if they’re Republican or Democrat. The country, ordinary voters — not the ones who have billion-dollar lobbyists in Washington — are desperate for there to be a wall along the border, for illegal aliens to be deported, for there to be fewer legal immigrants coming in.

I mean, year after year after year, Americans are polled on this. Do you want more immigration, the same, less immigration? They keep saying less and the politicians keep giving us more. So, yeah, of course it’s a huge issue. The other reason that it really came up much in the midterms was that the man who accomplished everything he was going to accomplish as of election night 2016, demanded that all of these Republican candidates make the stolen 2020 election their number-one issue now. I mean, clearly, the midterms were crushed by Donald Trump — and, oh, speaking of which, I want my bet with Clay Travis. Please remind him of that.

BUCK: What, lose the bet? I forget. Which one was that?

CLAY: I don’t’ know This is a new phone. Who is this? I’m not… I’m not even sure who this is.

COULTER: (laughing) January?

CLAY: What is the bet? Is this the Herschel bet? Is this the Herschel bet?

BUCK: Oh, it was Herschel Walker. Yeah, it was Herschel Walker. I remember.

CLAY: I made a mistake. I told Buck as we finished the first hour, I was like, I think I lost a big bet to Ann but maybe she won’t remember.

BUCK: Ann, can I ask you, you know, I put out a poll. I was just curious. I put out a poll on Twitter and it got like 60,000 votes — which it’s not scientific, but a lot of people weighed in — and it was about responsibility for what happened specifically in Georgia. And I put Herschel Walker, Donald Trump, Mitch McConnell or just write-in basically. A lot of people wrote in with different names —

CLAY: Who was the most responsible for the loss was the question, like, those were the options.

Who is most at fault for Walker losing a clearly winnable Senate seat in a state that the GOP otherwise dominated?

— Buck Sexton (@BuckSexton) December 7, 2022

BUCK: Yeah, responsible for the loss in Georgia. How much does leadership really matter? I mean, we had Kevin McCarthy on the show yesterday. I get more angry emails about Mitch McConnell probably than anyone else in America — like more than, you know, Nancy Pelosi or you name it does. Is that the problem? Does it make a big difference? How do you see all that?

COULTER: Well, coincidentally, I wrote about in my column this week. It went up yesterday morning. No, there’s no question Trump is 100% responsible for Herschel Walker. I mean, it wasn’t like it was Herschel’s lifelong dream to run for Senate. In March 2021, it was Trump who put out a statement, “Oh, Herschel would be the best. He should run for the Senate. He’ll be unstoppable. Just as he was on the football field for my U.S. Football League. Run, Herschel, run!”

And why did Trump think that Herschel Walker would be a fantastic candidate with everyone knowing he has a string of illegitimate children throughout the South? Well, he’s a fine guy. I did everything I could, by the way, to lose that bet with Clay Travis. I was promoting Herschel. Obviously, he’s better than any Democrat, but why are you putting out problematic candidates? Oh, yeah, because he was on Celebrity Apprentice and played for Trump’s defunct football league. That’s how Trump picks candidates. (crosstalk)

BUCK: We were taking some incoming bombs on this one. Go ahead, sir.

CLAY: No, look, I mean, I worked hard, and we’ll have to I will take you out to dinner, but I’ll probably be involved, too, because I definitely lost. I worked as hard as I could for Herschel to win. Same thing as you did, Ann. I wanted him to win desperately. I was pretty crushed — I’m not going to lie — that we lost Georgia, that we lost Nevada, that we lost Arizona, that many of those candidates did. I think the fact that Fetterman won is maybe the biggest indictment of the American electorate that I have seen in some time.

And also a further endorsement of the fact that if you have a D beside your name, unlike Republicans, Democrats just show up and vote party line because a lot of Republicans split their ticket, you know? Brian Kemp won by seven and a half points over Stacey Abrams, who was a well-funded candidate. Every other Republican won in the state of Georgia other than Herschel. But Republicans, they lost because they switched their vote.

COULTER: Yeah, yeah?

CLAY: So Buck made a good point and I gave you credit for this.

COULTER: Wait a minute. I disagree with everything you just said.

CLAY: Okay. Okay. You disagree with everything? All right.

BUCK: Wait, but I made a good point, so can we remember the good point and then Ann disagrees?

CLAY: All right. You would disagree with everything I just said. Tell me what you disagree with.

COULTER: I mean, clearly, it was the candidate. Your own facts say that! Yeah, Kemp won. Sorry. Governor of Georgia, Brian Kemp whom — and the secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger — who were the two Republicans Trump hates more than any other in the entire nation! He spent money, primary Republican governor of Georgia, and the Republican governor of Georgia won that primary by 50 points.

CLAY: Well, I’m saying, yes.

COULTER: The voters are trying to tell us: “We are done with Trump.”

CLAY: Yes. What —

COULTER: “We are done with him,” and as for Fetterman —

CLAY: What I’m saying (crosstalk) Yes. I think we’re agreeing. What I’m saying is Republican voters.

COULTER: As for Fetterman, it was 100% Trump again because he was encouraging… It was Mastriano, the guy running for governor. He was a nut. His number-one issue — as Trump recommended insisted on pressuring Republicans to say — was “the stolen election.” Mastriano was at the Capitol on January 6. He wanted to try women for murder for having abortions. You got to run candidates like that. No. Oz could have won that race. Mastriano dragged him down.

That’s not even interesting. How about:

Trump or Obama? (Obama loses fewer seats for Repubs)

Trump or Avenatti? (Avenatti scams supporters less)

Trump or Jeb!? (Jeb! more likely to build the wall) https://t.co/jOcbWyER9k

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) December 8, 2022

CLAY: Okay. So we agree on some of that. I guess what I’m saying is it’s Republicans in many of the states splitting their tickets that actually cost Republican candidates, right, because…?

COULTER: No! It’s Trump!

CLAY: Okay.

COULTER: It’s Trump! It’s Trump!

CLAY: So, but you’re your analysis is that Trump is causing that to happen. So, what I was going to build on here…

COULTER: All the Republicans in Georgia won!

CLAY: Yeah. I get it. I —

COULTER: They’re not splitting their tickets for governors, attorney general, secretary of state but if you’re going to keep pushing the ideas of this narcissistic moron infant, yeah. Republicans are going to keep saying, “Please just send us a normal Republican. Please, please,” and, by the way, I was shocked at how well — despite my bet with you, I was rooting like mad for Herschel Walker. And I thought Republican voters, you know, God bless them, they kept Trump away this time. And Kemp, the popular governor of Georgia, campaigned for Herschel. I thought it was going to be 45-55. It was really close. So I don’t think you can blame Republican voters in Georgia. They came out and voted for the Republican, even though it was not… He was an imperfect candidate, let’s put it that way. Okay.

CLAY: So what I was going to say, by the way, just bombs in every direction.

BUCK: I was going to say, we got to call this segment with Ann “Bombs Away,” or, like, “Get into the Bunker.”

CLAY: Yeah, which I respect, throwing bombs here. Buck had a thesis. I think he gave you credit for it, was that the reason why the politically correct era in the nineties ended was because O.J. was found not guilty.

BUCK: Well, I did give her credit because we sent her the clip.

CLAY: Yes, that’s right. So how do we break the woke virus in the United States? One of the reasons why I was so crushed by both 2020’s outcome and 2022, Ann, is it felt like a perfect time to destroy the Democrat Party for their woke virus and yet they continue to win and the woke virus gets crazier and crazier. How does it end? How do we lance this boil? How do we rid the body politic of this absurd woke virus?

COULTER: You know, it’s funny, I’ve been thinking the exact same thing. That is the thesis of my book, Mugged, and I go through just rampant crime, much like we’re going through right now in seventies, eighties. We come upon the nineties, and if you were alive during the O.J. verdict, you will remember this. There was a moment, one, when O.J. was found not guilty and black Americans throughout America — Howard University; you know, fast food places, historically black colleges across the country — cheered, cheered. Everyone had seen the trial had nothing to know that O.J. was, in fact, guilty. Cut off some of his ex-wife’s head and killed Ron Goldman. And to see black people cheering the acquittal of… I mean, I think O.J. is hilarious on Twitter. I don’t know if you follow him.

CLAY: Oh, I do, and Ann —

COULTER: But —

CLAY: — not to cut you off here, but you know that there are tons of 20-something girls sleeping with O.J. now in Las Vegas? I have friends out there. He goes out all the time and girls just throw themselves at him, many of whom were born after the double murder.

COULTER: Well, other than the double murder (laughing) he’s a pretty cool cat. Yeah.

CLAY: He is pretty entertaining on Twitter.

The unqualified will bring us down. pic.twitter.com/MPRRyV2vDW

— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) October 29, 2022

COULTER: And that woke America up. It used to be exactly the way it is now, the wokeness the way it is now. You know, you constantly have these blowhards, “Well, I think the problem in America is systemic racism.” That phrase didn’t exist yet, but, “Oh, it’s white racism,” and that’s when it was the greatest thing that ever happened to black Americans, because it was just like, as I say in the book. It was like a subway card that didn’t work anymore, pulling this racism B.S.

And I’ve been wondering, what is it going to be? Is it going to be (laughing) maybe this Brittney Griner story today. But if you want to stop losing because it really did suck. This should have been a red wave year. This should have been a red tsunami wave.

CLAY: Yep.

COULTER: You have to start telling the truth to your listeners that Trump is a big, fat loser. He lost 40 seats in the House for us in 2008 (sic). He lost the election — his own election — in 2020 when there was a red wave across the country! (crosstalk)

BUCK: Well, Ann and I still have a bet because I think Trump is still going to be the nominee. So, I think we’re going to be in a very —

CLAY: Alright, so, Ann, what…? So, I guess the question is —

COULTER: You have to tell the truth to your listeners!

CLAY: Well, look, I mean, I think we’re going to have a big —

COULTER: As long as Trump is… Hmm?

CLAY: We’re going to have a big battle in 2023, and I think it’s going to be between DeSantis —

COULTER: There’s not going to be a big battle! Trump is so dumb, but you are ginning up these few and far between dead-enders. Did you see that president announcement speech?

BUCK: We’re not beating up anybody. (laughing)

COULTER: You’re giving Trump cover.

CLAY: I think it’s going to be Trump versus DeSantis.

COULTER: You’re giving him cover. You’re telling them they’re part of a large group. No, they’re not. No, they’re not. They’re slightly bigger than QAnon. (crosstalk)

BUCK: Okay. Well, this whole, this very large group is actually going to be sending us emails for the next two days about how, you know, that…

COULTER: QAnon is very active.

CLAY: I will say this. Let me just say this. I think that Buck and I are going to provide a forum — and this is important — for a real debate about what the future of the Republican Party should be. And it’s going to be like everybody gloves off, throwing punches. And what I respect about Ann is she doesn’t tiptoe up. She’s not pretending to tell you what exactly she thinks, and I think this is the real conversation. This is why I like people who think when DeSantis and Trump, if it happens, get into a ring, that it’s going to be a really nice, well-organized boxing match.

BUCK: It’s going to get ugly.

CLAY: You’ve got to throw up, it’s going to be gloves and they are going to try to gouge each other’s eyes out. And you have to — everybody out there listening — has to get ready for that. It ain’t going to be a genteel affair.

BUCK: And to be fair, Ms. Coulter, we call a lot more balls and strikes here on the Trumpster than —

COULTER: Yeah, Fox News.

BUCK: — a lot of the other folks in the radio world. I will tell you.

COULTER: Congratulations. (laughing)

BUCK: (laughing) But it is true that we actually were willing to say.

COULTER: You go (laughing) right than Kellyanne Conway.

BUCK: I heard Kellyanne Conway.

COULTER: Not something to brag about.

CLAY: So how does this play out then? And, in your mind, you don’t. But can I have a bet? I think we both have steak bets on this. I’ve already lost a steak bet to the extent that I have because I said Herschel was going to win. I really thought he was. How does this play out in ‘23, in your mind?

COULTER: I think there are so few people who are still supporting Trump, though they tune in to Fox News and your radio show and think they’re part of some large group now with their pathetic Deadheads following them around. Look at the pictures from his presidential announcement address. Look, I’m sure they… I feel about them the way I feel about Jimmy Swaggart followers. Probably the followers were lovely people, but I have about ten more minutes of patience with them. They have got to wake up. (crosstalk)

BUCK: Ah, no. We got we’ve got to bring along all the… All the Trump voters are our family and we got to all mobilize together here. But, and we actually are out of time. So, we want to say happy birthday and people can write Ann at her Substack.

COULTER: Can I say one more thing very quickly?

BUCK: We literally have like 20 seconds. But, yeah.

COULTER: I supported Trump right after he announced, 2015, introducing him. I don’t know anyone who supported him in 2015 who still supports him now. No, these are all the Johnny-come-lately. We support him for the issues and he betrayed us.

BUCK: Okay. Check out Ann Coulter’s Substack, everybody.

CLAY: I love the flamethrower.

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Remember Ripley in the the Aliens franchise? Trinity in The Matrix? How about Sarah Connor in Terminator? The list of female protagonists goes on and on, even if they aren’t all as badass as that. But the pampered leftist actress Jennifer Lawrence thinks she’s some kind of Rosa Parks for female proteagonists.

Jennifer Lawrence says there were no female action heroes before she did “The Hunger Games” so please take a moment to mourn for Sigourney Weaver who apparently never existed https://t.co/7hL3O3GwVK

— Not the Bee (@Not_the_Bee) December 7, 2022

This is really something, the bubble she lives in here.

“We were told girls and boys could both identify with a male lead, but boys cannot identify with a female lead,” Jennifer Lawrence says of taking on the role of Katniss in #TheHungerGames. https://t.co/TqYPwDLCC4 pic.twitter.com/1qyqqkh8aX

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The left is implicated after a top donor to the Democrats, Sam Bankman-Fried, has been exposed as a corrupt con artist, so don’t expect them to do anything but cover it up.

BREAKING: Chairwoman of the House Financial Services Committee, Democrat Maxine Waters, confirms she does not plan to subpoena Sam Bankman-Fried to testify on the collapse of FTX which cost depositors billions. pic.twitter.com/OYuS9jZo80

— Charlie Kirk (@charliekirk11) December 7, 2022

If this had happened, can you imagine?

Sam Bankman-Fried nearly sponsored Taylor Swift tour for $100M: 'He's a fan of Tay Tay' https://t.co/6XQsKydlR0 pic.twitter.com/OwxhXQO9KS

— New York Post (@nypost) December 8, 2022

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Joe Biden has made an awful trade, choosing to free an arms dealer nicknamed “the Merchant of Death” for a mediocre WNBA player.

If you’re wondering who Victor Bout is, watch this. Also contemplate this, can the United States ever keep a Russian behind bars now that Putin knows the trades we will make if he takes one of our citizens prisoner? pic.twitter.com/f6OzelB1bc

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) December 8, 2022

There’s pushback and it’s encouraging.

GOP rips Brittney Griner deal for stranding Paul Whelan in Russia: ‘Celebrities over veterans?’ https://t.co/mo7lY9dyMh

— Fox News (@FoxNews) December 8, 2022

You may recall Viktor Bout’s story from one of the better Nic Cage movies.

The idiot teachers’ union head who kept your kids out of school only sees that Griner is a lesbian, by the way.

The school union head imbecile who fought to ensure your kids stayed out of school for years just said the quiet part out loud. The reason Joe Biden made this awful trade is because Griner is gay & black and his identity politics obsessed left wing base demanded it. https://t.co/YhK56v82tI

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) December 8, 2022

Meanwhile, a U.S. Marine is still being held on totally bogus charges. His name is Paul Whelan — and yes, his family says they support freeing Griner, but what else are they gonna say?

Paul Whelan tells CNN: “I am greatly disappointed more hasn’t been done to secure my release, especially as the four year anniversary of my arrest is coming up. I was arrested for a crime that never occurred. I don’t understand why I’m still sitting here.”https://t.co/6KMof1iQLl

— Greg Price (@greg_price11) December 8, 2022

About the best you can say about this trade is it’s not as bad as Barack Obama trading five terrorists — some of whom are now running the terrorist state of Afghanistan — for an Army deserter.

Deja Vu all over again. #BritneyGriner #BeauBergdahl pic.twitter.com/bJXfaamlbh

— Smart Cookie (@SmartCookieAZ) December 8, 2022

This is about — at its core — this woman is an American citizen. All this other stuff that leftists are bringing up should not factor into the thinking of the U.S. government at all.

“You can’t allow… a black female icon treated like garbage & America do nothing about it.” -Van Jones on Britney Griner.

Again, bizarre. Why is her race or gender relevant?

I’m glad she’s free, but we still have a Marine captive. He’s less important because he’s a white guy? pic.twitter.com/xvz5vorL9f

— Jason Rantz on KTTH Radio (@jasonrantz) December 8, 2022

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Dr. Makary Delivers a Dose of Covid Sanity

7 Dec 2022

BUCK: We got Dr. Marty Makary with us now of Johns Hopkins University medical school. He’s been such an important voice of sanity on covid, covid policies and all the rest of it. Dr. Makary, appreciate you coming back.

DR. MAKARY: Good to be with you, Buck.

BUCK: Let’s start with long covid, because there’s been some reports out recently of, “Hey, maybe long covid, not really what we thought it was.” But I’ve also seen some people suggesting not even really a thing. What do we know?

DR. MAKARY: Well, people do get fatigued and feel a little tired weeks after they’re sick no matter what they’re sick with. And what we’re learning is that long covid does not happen in 20% of everybody with covid, as the CDC warns us, but a study from the U.K. found it’s about 3% of people when you look 12 weeks after they were sick. And another study that just came out found that if you came in with some upper-respiratory infection like the flu or RSV, that you had the same rate of long-haul symptoms three months out as you did from covid. So, this tells us that this giant covid industrial complex is something that the CDC and NIH are fixated on, but it may be in part, the medicalization of ordinary life. Now we know you can lose your sense of smell a little bit longer and we know some people get brain fog unique to covid, but it’s not like lightning that strikes people at a rate of one in five Americans, like the CDC says.

BUCK: So, definitely exaggerated and also more in line with what people would see in other respiratory infections as well, right? So, if you get a really bad case of flu, you might have some lingering symptoms. Dr. Makary, I also want to ask you about the Princeton University study that is getting a fair amount of attention right now on masking. First of all, is this a really good and serious and honest study and what does it tell us?

DR. MAKARY: It’s a pretty good study. It basically says that when you’re dealing with highly contagious viruses like covid, that all the mitigation is basically postponing the inevitable. Now, maybe that made sense for a little bit when hospitals were overrun. But, at this point it’s basically telling us that you can do everything you want and you’re going to get covid at some point in your lifetime. And that study did not even factor in something we call immunity debt, which means when your immune system is sheltered from being in lockdown and being isolated and wearing a mask, you’re more susceptible. That’s the theory of immunity. And that’s why many people think we’ve got this massive epidemic of flu and RSV going on right now.

BUCK: Yeah. So, can you explain more on this one? You know, even my family in New York has gone through what feels like a few rounds. They’ve got… there’s a grandchild involved. My parents are elderly and everyone’s been getting sick multiple times this fall and going into winter, all with upper respiratory infections. What is this immunity debt concept again?

DR. MAKARY: So, the immunity debt concept says that when you’re normally living your life, your body and immune system are exposed to low levels of viruses and you build up some immunity. Even though you’re not really sick or you have a minimal illness, you get kind of a transient infection. You hear people say that their wife was sick, but they never got sick. Well, your immune system, though, did get beefed up a little bit because it was around it. So, when you put people in lockdowns and isolate them and, you know, shut kids out of school and then put them all in masks, their immune system is not exposed to that low level pathogen exposure. And the idea is the immune system weakens and then when a virus really crops up like it is right now with flu and RSV, they get hit really hard.

BUCK: Speaking to Dr. Marty Makary of Johns Hopkins University Medical Center and Dr. Makary, the vaccine side effects that we’ve for a long time, and this brings in the social media discussion, I think as well. You weren’t allowed to talk about vaccine side effects to share data, certainly not to share personal anecdotes about any believed vaccine side effects that a person may have had. What do we know about the vaccines and side effect profiles that they have, now that we’re more able to have that discussion and have more data than ever before?

DR. MAKARY: Well, we’re learning a lot more and one of those studies that is telling us what we’ve been missing has been from Germany, where they actually looked at people who died suddenly, immediately after the vaccine. And in five autopsies, they found that the vaccine was the definitive cause of the death. These were people who didn’t come into a hospital. They were found dead. And it tells us that dying from the vaccine is a real confirmed thing. Now, it’s rare if you’re super high risk and you know, you have not had covid in the past, it’s worth it to get the vaccine to lower that risk.

But when you’re talking about a healthy child or a 25-year-old athlete, that’s when the risk benefit ratio is really in question. Now, public health officials say, “Don’t look at these nuances, stop asking questions. Just, everybody get it. We have to have a simple message in order for the dumb public to understand.” That’s literally what they said and I documented it in a piece titled “Why America Doesn’t Trust the CDC” in Newsweek. That’s their philosophy. It’s very paternalistic. But the reality of that —

Dr Jha says its “crystal clear” that a healthy young male needs a bivalent (4th) Covid vax dose but..

he can’t tell you how many *healthy* children have ever died of Covid &we have no biv trial data. How can he know the risk:benefit calc without the data? https://t.co/8dKZmMIlvS

— Marty Makary MD, MPH (@MartyMakary) December 3, 2022

BUCK: Is there anything, by the way, that makes you think that the CDC is going to get better? Is there any reason to believe that there will be any effort to actually improve things?

DR. MAKARY: I think it’s going to get worse because a lot of people in Washington are using their only solution to every problem, and that is give them more money, build up the bureaucracy. For example, the CDC has had a center for data forecasting and then they added a whole other center for data forecasting, bringing in some big-name people. So, now we have two centers for data forecasting. They totally missed monkeypox. They totally missed RSV and the flu that are overrunning hospitals right now. So, what do we do, make a third center for data forecasting? I mean, this is the absurdity of throwing money at the CDC, which, by the way, could not even come up with a covid tracker. It was one Johns Hopkins grad student who came up with the Johns Hopkins tracker at our university that did more work than 21,000 employees at the CDC.

BUCK: What is the sense within the medical community in your mind right now that there should be some real introspection about groupthink about policy failures, getting things so wrong so many times over a two year long period. And, you know, what is it going to take for people to feel like they can walk around and no longer be in the grip? You know, some people walk around, they’re still in the grip of fear with regard to covid because their doctors are telling them to still be scared.

DR. MAKARY: Well, doctors themselves are scared. They’re worried about their promotions. They’re worried about their NIH funding. They’re worried about being seen as a pariah. You know, a bunch of us don’t care. I don’t care. I don’t care if I get fired. I believe in speaking truth. Life is short. I’ve taken care of enough people at the end of life to know you got to speak your mind. But a lot of doctors reach out to me and they say, “Gosh, everything you’re saying I agree with, but I can’t say anything. I’ll get in trouble. My communications department will hound me. My professional society will expel me.” The California Department of Health is taking away licenses if somebody disagrees with them. So, unfortunately, I don’t see how we’re going to challenge the groupthink unless more doctors just speak openly and honestly.

BUCK: Dr. Makary, where can folks read your work, again?

DR. MAKARY: I post my pieces on Twitter, and the piece in Newsweek is titled, “Why America Doesn’t Trust the CDC.”

BUCK: Dr. Makary, always appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much.

DR. MAKARY: Thanks, Buck.

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