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Does Fauci Have Any Semblance of Decency?

23 Nov 2022

In the audio link above, Clay & Buck continue to hammer Tony Fauci’s legacy of tyranny, authoritarianism, and madness on covid policy.

Don’t let the door hit you on the way out. The only time we want to hear from you again is under oath before Congress answering for your lies.

Fauci’s goodbye yesterday was just infuriating.

The Biden administration simply cannot confront our problems in health.

What do you think of the way this little Smurf — and the ongoing masking — has harmed America? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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“Mx. Aldrich,” the Nonbinary They/Them CO Nightclub Shooter

23 Nov 2022

In the audio link above, Clay & Buck review the revelation that the killer who massacred patrons at Club Q — who the media has been calling a right-wing Republican Trump supporter, and using that to blame everyone who doesn’t vote Democrat — is a “nonbinary” they/them.

Now the left is claiming that this guy is doing this to defend himself or troll the court, but, no, he’s been on this road for years. Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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Ice Cube Was Cold to Covid Shot Mandates

23 Nov 2022

In the audio link above, Clay & Buck discuss how the rapper Ice Cube balked at the covid mandate, and gave up $9 million rather than take the jab. Here’s Mr. Cube:

What do you think of Mr. Cube’s stand for freedom? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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C&B’s Favorite Thanksgiving Meals, Games, and Traditions

23 Nov 2022

In the audio link above, Clay & Buck discuss their favorite Thanksgiving traditions, how not to get injured in post-meal Thanksgiving football games, and what food they pass along as suggestions for the dinner table.

Pop culture Thanksgiving flashbacks:



What are your highs and lows of the tryptophan festival on Thursday? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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24/7 VIP Video: Good Riddance to the Hated Fauci

22 Nov 2022

At long last, the arrogant “I am science” bureaucrat Tony Fauci is riding off into the sunset on his high horse. Watch Clay and Buck go into detail about their past and present extreme dislikes of Dr. Fauci.

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Vice President Pence Discusses His Memoir, So Help Me God

22 Nov 2022

CLAY: We’re joined now by former vice president, Mike Pence, who’s got a new book out that is being well received. And, as we start with you, Mr. Vice President — I appreciate you giving us the time. We’ve been talking, Fauci’s just bad —

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: You bet, guys. Thanks for having me on.

CLAY: Yeah, no doubt. The book is So Help Me God, released earlier this month. Fauci just had his final press conference

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Yeah.

CLAY: — as he is in the process of retiring. I’m sure you knew that was going on. We were just talking about it. Everything in hindsight is often 20/20. In retrospect, what could you and the Trump White House have done better to not allow Dr. Fauci to — what I think is, quite frankly — drive us right off the cliff of insanity in terms of how we should respond to covid? He said that people should still feel very proud if they’re wearing masks. He said that, as you get ready to gather with Thanksgiving family that continuing to get covid tests could make sense. Those are just some of the things he said not years ago, but just a few minutes ago at the White House.

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Right.

CLAY: Do you have any regrets? Do you have anything that you would change about Dr. Fauci in particular and covid?

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Well, first, just let me say what a privilege it is to be on with both of you. A great fan of the show —

CLAY: Thank you.

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: — and was honored to have the opportunity to write my autobiography, So Help Me God, that came out about a week ago. It’s a story of growing up here in Indiana. It’s a story of being raised by a combat veteran and a first generation Irish-American — starting out as a Democrat, joining the Republican Revolution — and then through decisions that I made, beginning with the decision to put my faith in Jesus Christ, the decision to marry Karen Pence — we were able to serve and advance the conservative agenda in the Congress and in the governorship here in Indiana and then as vice president.

I’m incredibly proud of the record of our administration, and I’m proud of what the American people accomplished during covid, guys. There’s a couple of chapters in my book, one of which is entitled Only in America, where I really pay tribute to the extraordinary compassion of our health care workers, the extraordinary generosity and innovation of American businesses. I mean, from the time I was tapped to lead the White House Coronavirus Task Force, guys, I was really inspired by what the American people were doing. But in those early days when I became the leader of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, it was a fairly small group.

The president organized it a month earlier, and it included Dr. Tony Fauci and some other medical experts that would grow. But one of the first decisions that I made was to add the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of Agriculture — Larry Kudlow on our economic team — because I knew that the advice that we were going to give the president could not just be the advice of the clinical doctors. It had to be balanced and take in the whole interest of the American people. And as I write in So Help Me God, you know, in those early days, I know that Dr. Fauci…

When we didn’t know what was coming, when we didn’t understand the disease and Americans were anxious. We were reinventing testing, we were manufacturing billions of supplies and over 100,000 ventilators in 100 days. I think in those early days, Dr. Fauci was a comfort to millions of Americans, and he always stayed in his lane. That’s how I put it in my book. I mean, he was invariably the first person to say, “Look, I’ll give you the scientist’s perspective, but I understand the president’s got to consider a lot more,” and that was one of the reasons why one month into our efforts to essentially buy time and slow the spread, we worked to open up America again in states like Georgia and Florida led the way, but —

BUCK: Mike, when did you realize, though, that Fauci was actually a partisan and the absolute worst and hoping to deep-six the presidency that you were a part of?

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Well, early on, I must tell you, I didn’t perceive it that way. In fact, I thought President Trump and Fauci as a couple of old New Yorkers had a good working relationship. But things began to shift, you know, toward the end. And I must tell you, it grieves my heart that the Biden administration lost more Americans in their first year with covid — with all of the tools that we left behind, including vaccines, more Americans — than we lost in our first year when we, for the most part, had none of those tools.

But I do think it was part and parcel of the Biden administration essentially putting Dr. Fauci in charge of the national response. You know, there’s the old saying that, you know, when you’re holding a hammer, everything’s a nail. And I wasn’t surprised that the Biden administration abandoned our commitment to therapeutics, abandoned our commitment to opening up states around the country, and largely turned all of its focus on vaccines and ultimately and wrongly mandated vaccines for Americans.

That was partially turned aside by the conservative majority on the Supreme Court. So, as I said, I think, you know, it saddens me that the Biden administration, in so many ways, squandered the progress that we made. And putting Dr. Fauci in the lead of the Biden administration’s response, I think explains their focus on concentrating everything in Washington, concentrating everything on vaccines — ultimately mandating vaccines — instead of taking the whole of America, federalist approach that we took in our administration.

BUCK: We’re speaking to former vice president Mike Pence who’s got a new book out, So Help Me God. Vice President Pence, tell us this. You know, the midterm election, there were some bright spots.

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Yeah.

BUCK: There were the votes in the aggregate, but there wasn’t the Red Wave that we needed. And it seemed that there were a number of points of… “Failure” might be too strong a word for some people, but I think for others it’s not strong enough. Clearly there were some problems; in some places, we came up short.

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Yeah.

BUCK: How do we fix that?

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Well, guys, look, there… (sigh) Thanks for saying that. You’re the first…. (laughs) You’re the first show. Not surprisingly, that said that there was a Red Wave some places. I mean, you look at the governors’ reelections in places like Texas and Florida and in Georgia, where they had probably the most formidable Democrat candidate in the country, and Stacey Abrams raised $100 million and Governor Brian Kemp, you know, won decisively in the fall. And my friend Lee Zeldin came up short in New York. But he actually brought with him four new Republicans elected to Congress from his state of New York.

That could be our new margin of a Republican majority. So, I really do believe there were there were pockets, there were places. And the common denominator to me, guys, is that, you know, candidates that were focused on the future, that were focused on the challenges facing the American people today — which are border security and crime and record inflation and high gasoline prices, candidates that were focused on the future — did quite well. But candidly, those campaigns that were focused on the past, including relitigating the past, did not fare as well.

CLAY: We’re talking to former vice president Mike Pence, his book out last week, So Help Me God. Donald Trump announced on Tuesday of last week, same day your book came out. In the evening, he announced that he was going to be running for president 2024. I know that there were several people speaking out in Las Vegas who might be interested in potentially running in 2024 as well. You are among those. When would you think is the right time for you to officially decide if you are or are not going to run in 2024? What kind of timeline do you have in terms of making that decision?

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Well, first I’m always humbled to be asked. And as I write in the book, So Help Me God — back in 2010, I had (garbled cell) for national office. I ultimately prayed through it with my wife, spoke to friends, and we felt called to come home here to Indiana and serve as governor of this great state. And that decision was one of the great honors of my life and led to opportunities to serve as your vice president as well. So, what I can tell you is that with two in active duty military in our immediate family, we actually haven’t been together for the last three years.

But this Christmas, everybody is going to be home in Indiana, and Karen and I are going to take time — as we always have — to sit down with our kids, their spouses and talk to friends and continue to listen to the American people. And I always tell people there’s two kinds of people in politics. There are people that are driven and people that are called. And if you read So Help Me God, you’ll hear that I’ve been both. I’ve let my ambition get ahead of my values in the past and the way that, as a Christian, I feel called to represent myself in the public square. But for the last 20 years, we’ve tried to follow a calling, guys, and so we’re going to pray through it, give it careful consideration. And sometime after the first of the year, we’ll just discern what our next calling might be. But I promise to keep Clay Travis and Buck Sexton posted.

CLAY: I appreciate that.

BUCK: Thank you.

CLAY: As part of that, do you think Joe Biden will run, do you think he should run for reelection, and does his choice in any way impact your own choice?

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Well, the thing I’ll tell you emphatically is Joe Biden and Kamala Harris should not be reelected as president and vice president.

CLAY: No doubt.

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Guys, I knew they’d be bad. I didn’t know they’d be this bad, this fast. But then again, you know, I mean, literally from day one, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been dismantling the very policies that created the prosperity, the border security, the strength of our economy that we had in those first three years of the Trump-Pence administration. Literally a gusher of spending that launched the worst inflation in 40 years, a war on energy after we achieved energy independence that has now set in motion the gasoline prices as we’re going into a Thanksgiving weekend.

And of course, I’ve been down to the southern border in Arizona many times in the last two years. Five million people have come into this country illegally in the last two years after we had reduced illegal immigration by 90%. So, you know, whatever President Biden decides to do and whatever we decide to do, I’m going to be working my heart out to make sure that that we do not get four more years of the disastrous record of the Biden-Harris administration. We’ve got a good start in the House of Representatives with a new Republican majority. But the next step is to win the Senate, win the White House, win statehouses around the country, and I believe we will. I think we’re at the beginning of a great American comeback.

BUCK: The book is So Help Me God. Vice President Pence, the author. Sir, appreciate you being with us. We’ll talk to you soon.

VICE PRESIDENT PENCE: Guys, thanks for having me on. I so appreciate it. We’ll talk again soon.

BUCK: Yes, sir.

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Florida Surgeon General Dr. Ladapo, Author of Transcend Fear

22 Nov 2022

BUCK: We have Florida Surgeon General, Dr. Joseph Ladapo with us now. He’s got a book out, Transcend Fear: A Blueprint for Mindful Leadership in Public Health. It’s been out for a couple of months. Dr. Ladapo, honor to have you on, sir. Thanks for making time for us.

DR. LADAPO: Hey, thanks for having me on. Happy to be with you guys right before Thanksgiving.

BUCK: Yes, sir, and one thing we are not thankful for is Dr. Anthony Fauci’s leadership during the pandemic.

DR. LADAPO: (laughing)

BUCK: You may have seen him giving his farewell speech of sorts today from the White House. What I mean is, you’re a Harvard-trained M.D. You are the surgeon general of the state of Florida. You’ve looked at the data for your state of over 20 million people extensively. When Dr. Fauci says that you should be proud to mask up when you walk into places, that people should consider masking, that they should all get the vaccine, that the vaccine will keep anyone from dying — and there’s a whole lot more we could say. What do you say as a medical professional?

DR. LADAPO: I say that I am stunned by Dr. Fauci’s inability to adapt to data. You know, in his comments he said something about how it’s too bad that people aren’t getting these covid-19 vaccines — for the people who aren’t, most people have — but for the people who aren’t. He hates to see them get infected. (laughs) Well, then he really ought not want them to get it because (laughing) as is very plainly clear, their protection from infection wanes rapidly. And that he’s still not acknowledging that and still playing mask charades, mask… I don’t know. Whatever this silly masquerade is with masks, it’s just a testament of why he cannot leave fast enough.

CLAY: Dr. Ladapo, appreciate you joining us. This is Clay. Dr. Fauci also said that he thinks people should test for covid before they get together with their friends and family for Thanksgiving. It is two days until Thanksgiving. I can guarantee you that the Travis family will not be testing before we have Thanksgiving dinner. You’ve got, I think, two kids, maybe three. Will the Ladapo family…? You are obviously an esteemed physician. Will you be doing covid tests before you sit down for Thanksgiving dinner?

DR. LADAPO: (laughing) The only thing that’s going to be tested this this week is going to be my patience, because our three boys are going to be running all around pumped full of yummy pumpkin pie from my wife and all that good stuff. You know, this it’s really sad. He has a right to believe that, of course. But it’s just a testament to how sad his vision of life is. You can’t just enjoy the beautiful time with people you love and care about. You have to think about testing and, what, maybe even masking or whatever else he’s suggesting before Thanksgiving? It’s sad. And yeah, I feel… In some ways, I feel bad for him that that’s how he sees Thanksgiving. I mean, it’s just sad.

BUCK: Speaking to Florida Surgeon General, Dr. Ladapo, and his book is Transcend Fear: A Blueprint for Mindful Leadership in Public Health. Dr. Ladapo, have a lot of doctors come forward — I mean, I would assume it’s easier for them in Florida than it is in other places. I’m in Florida right now — and said that they’re going to stand against some of the madness, that that they’re not going to pretend like the establishment experts got everything right and that we should all still go into every hospital with a little cloth mask on all the time and all this stuff. I mean, have you seen a change in the mentality of a lot of your fellow physicians over, let’s say, the last year or so, as we’ve really seen everything that we were told by the Fauci apparatus and the Biden administration just not actually happen? I mean, everything fell apart.

DR. LADAPO: I’m going to give you what I think might be a surprising answer, and that answer is no, and the reason it’s no is because it’s not new. Most of the doctors over the past year who have opposed these policies, they haven’t changed. They’ve known that we’ve done many trials of masks, and they just have generally not been effective. They’ve known that the vaccines aren’t doing a good job at preventing infection, but they are afraid to speak because of the repercussions. And that’s really the issue. That’s what’s behind it. And there are consequences. And it’s it’s a very real thing.

You’ve got boards of medicine trying to strip doctors of their license, not because of anything they did with their clinical care, but because they said the quote-unquote “wrong thing” on Facebook or Twitter. And that’s the reality. That’s the reality that that physicians are living with. I’m sure you’re familiar with the California law that was passed restricting — essentially threatening to punish — doctors for saying the wrong things about one specific issue, which is covid-19. So unfortunately, no. People’s opinions haven’t changed. But even more unfortunately, a lot of doctors who are totally opposed to what Dr. Fauci has been saying are still afraid to speak up.

CLAY: Dr. Ladapo, I’m sure you have seen — speaking on that fear — California has tried to pass a law and you moved from California to the free state of Florida if I remember correctly. California is trying to pass a law that could create consequences for medical professionals who speak out against whatever the preferred science is at the moment. I’m just curious, in general. You probably remember when Fauci said, “I am the science.” Isn’t science about questioning everything? How quickly have we forgotten that that’s the primary goal of scientists is to rigorously question everything, lest you believe things that are untrue, and how scary is it that we’re trying to pass laws now to essentially keep medical professionals from ever questioning the consensus opinion?

DR. LADAPO: Well, it’s terrible. It’s terrible. And that is exactly… I mean, that is at the core of science, is asking questions and debating and bringing evidence and seeing how things shake out. Being curious. Those are core tenets of science and of the things that motivated people like me and many other people to pursue science. And unfortunately, what’s happening in California is they’re trying to rewrite reality to match their dystopian fantasy. And that’s essentially what’s happening. And hopefully, people will just realize that it’s total nonsense that they’re doing there.

BUCK: Speaking to Dr. Joseph Ladapo, surgeon general of the state of Florida. Dr. Ladapo If somebody was willing to…? Let’s say somebody out there thinks, you know, wearing two masks because Fauci says two masks are great; it’s going to keep them safe. But they’re at least willing to look at what data you have access to, say, when it came to mask mandates in schools. We’re two years into this. What could you point them to, what could you tell them about the real numbers that you saw in Florida during now two full years of data collection when it came to schools that required masks versus schools that did not?

DR. LADAPO: The Florida data has definitely been supportive of this, the fact that, in schools, these masks are doing basically nothing. And there are other studies. There’s a doctor in California, Dr. Tracy Hogg, that’s done a ton of research on masks. She’s debunked one of the CDC studies where the CDC reported that the masks were effective when they compared a couple school districts. But then she looked and found that basically actually, if you look further, they were only… It only looked that way because of the specific period of time that the CDC looked. Why did they look during that time only?

Who knows? It’s not that they were trying to put their finger on the scale, is it? So, it’s really nonsense. The air goes around, guys, if you’re in a room. Whether you wear the mask or not, the air is coming out and there’s even a randomized clinical trial that shows harms — believe it or not, harms — associated with cloth masks and health care workers. So it’s just a total barrel of nonsense, just complete nonsense, this mask obsession, and it cannot die soon enough. But unfortunately, many of my colleagues are trying to revive it this winter.

CLAY: Yeah. And so that’s the question that Buck and I have been asking. How does this end? And that’s the question we would ask Fauci if he would ever come on with us. You’re saying, hey, this this holiday season — I believe this is now the third Thanksgiving we’ve had, basically, since covid started, if I’m doing the math correctly — Fauci saying you still need to take a covid test. You should still be wearing masks.

If you’re doing this in year three of covid, how does it ever end? Will it ever end? And are you concerned — I think you are just based on the way that you answer that question, Dr. Ladapo — that we can’t just live and let live because the people who are still wearing masks, if they could, would demand that all of us wear masks, including 2- and 3-year-olds, the minute that they have the power to do so.

DR. LADAPO: Well, you’re you are dead-on there. There’s no question about that. And I think people first of all, I think people just need to really be acquainted, comfortable with the scientific data from clinical trials. These advocates always point to these observational studies of the CDC quotes, but clinical trials are really the gold standard, and these masks have done terrible almost in all of these clinical trials. So people need to feel comfortable, first of all, that they really…

On a scientific basis, they are doing little to nothing. And then the second part is just deciding that you’re not going to participate in these charades. And that’s what needs to happen. And I think if enough of us do that, they’ll stop trying to work their — weasel their — way back in with their mask recommendations, which later become strong recommendations, which later become mandates, and all the nonsense that we’ve seen over the past two years.

BUCK: Florida Surgeon General, Dr. Ladapo, his book Transcend Fear: A Blueprint for Mindful Leadership in Public Health. Dr. Ladapo, thanks for being with us.

DR. LADAPO: Hey, thanks so much, guys. Happy Thanksgiving, guys.

CLAY: You too. No doubt. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well. And thank goodness that if you live in Florida, you’re still going to have some freedom. But think about how crazy this is. There is no end to this covid insanity, which is why Buck and I continue to hammer it here, because they’re coming for you. They’re coming for you with masks. They’re coming for you with the vaccine mandates. As soon as these things come up again in terms of cases, they are going to chase you and they are going to demand that you submit. We know this and it’s starting to happen already.

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What’s the Most Overrated Dish at Thanksgiving?

22 Nov 2022

Listen to the audio link above as Clay & Buck break down the items they will pass on if it’s offered up on the dinner table this Thursday.

What do you shove to the side of your plate at the holiday feast? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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@NHL Twitter Account Drops the Gloves for Transgenders

22 Nov 2022

Clay & Buck in the audio link above question the absurdity of the National Hockey League’s Twitter account deciding to push women in men’s sports, and denying the science that men have penises and women vaginas.

What do you think of the NHL backing men who think they’re women and women who think they’re men? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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We Applaud the Army Veteran Who Took Down the CO Nightclub Killer

22 Nov 2022

Clay & Buck praise the brave military veteran who stopped the Club Q gunman as he gunned down patrons. His name is Rich Fierro. Together with his wife Jessica they run Atrevida Beer Co., the first Latin-owned brewery in Colorado run by a female Head Brewer. This veteran deserves some props for his heroism. Let’s make this guy, not the killer, famous — and absolutely not use this as political weapon the way the left does.

This is a redux of the attempt to cast the illegal alien, Green Party leftist — so mentally ill that he thought he was Jesus and lived under a tree — who attacked Paul Pelosi as some right-winger.

What do you think of the way the left is using the dead in this shooting to smear their political foes? Tweet us your take @ClayAndBuck — or, if you’re a 24/7 VIP, send us an email.

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