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Imbecile! Joy Behar Attacks Governor DeSantis

29 Sep 2022

While those of us with brains and hearts are focused on Hurricane Ian in Florida, there are unfortunately gonna be imbeciles on TV who immediately try to make this a political issue.

This is a religious belief for lunatics, that climate change actually responds to politicians’ belief or disbelief one way or another. But trust the science.

Hurricanes have been hitting Florida since time immemorial, basically since Florida became a geographic reality, but imbeciles won’t let facts stand in the way of their savaging Governor DeSantis.

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Our Thoughts and Prayers Remain with the People of Florida

29 Sep 2022

We wish everyone in Florida who’s been impacted by Hurricane Ian — and everyone in the path of its remaining fury in South Carolina, the Georgia coast and specifically Savannah, as well as parts of North Carolina — a speedy recovery.

This is gonna be one of the top-five hurricanes to ever hit the Florida peninsula.

There’s massive water damage in addition to the wind from what Governor DeSantis calls a 500-year flood event. It’s essentially a tsunami flood event coupled with wind stronger than a tornado.

Temperatures are gonna be hot, up into the eighties or nineties. People do not have power and as there are all sorts of dangers associated with this storm.

If you want to help, the website to do so is FloridaDisaster.org.

So far it has been, from a leadership perspective in the state of Florida, calm, cool, and collected under very trying circumstances for the governor and all the first responders.

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24/7 VIP Video: Dems Destroyed NYC’s Brand, Mayor Adams

28 Sep 2022

You might have seen NYC Mayor Eric Adams take a swipe at the good people of Kansas yesterday.

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Genius Meteorologist Joe Bastardi Issues Multiple Warnings on Hurricane Ian

28 Sep 2022

CLAY: We want to bring in now Joe Bastardi who has been covering storms like these for a very long time. He’s got a book: Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War. Most recently, he is the chief forecaster at WeatherBELL Analytics, LLC.

Joe, thanks — I know it’s been a crazy day for you certainly as we track this storm. What should our listeners both in Florida and beyond know about the latest on this storm?

BASTARDI: Well, first of all, this is what the Good Lord above made me to do, and we actually — I actually posted a blog — it got up on Wednesday but it was written Monday on CFACT. I don’t know if you guys… I post quite often there on CFACT trying to get people ahead of the game on the weather.

And the title of the blog on Wednesday was “Attention Governor DeSantis.” And part of the reason I wrote that because we were, even then, before this was even developing, we were saying, telling our clients, this is coming for Florida, it’s gonna be a major impact storm.

And you wonder, “Well, how the heck you saying that?” It’s because of old time pattern recognition. I’m 67 years old, my dad was a meteorologist, he taught me that you should have a functional working knowledge of what the atmosphere is doing before you go rely on computer models.

So, we got away ahead of the storm. And one of the biggest things about this storm I’m emphasizing to everyone is while Governor DeSantis has done a unbelievable job mobilizing this army, the army needs to be fed and the supply chain situation in the country for people recovering here is not good.

It’s not like it was three or four years ago. While we’ve got the electric crews and all these people staging and they’re in there, when you start considering the logistics of “What about windows blown out?” and “What about the idea that this is not just done here even though it will be a lesser intense storm?”

This is gonna be a major, perhaps devastating, impactful storm from Jacksonville up toward Charleston as far as the coastal communities go. And it won’t be the amount of wind. The wind will probably be 75, 80 miles an hour.

But the fact that in those areas — and I want to talk about those areas for people, because everybody’s focused on Fort Myers. We still are focusing yesterday, you know, Fort Myers, Naples, in there.

We start focusing yesterday further north because there’s a second battle coming here. It’s already starting because, guys, this big cool high in the Northeast, this storm, northeasterly winds already piling water up from Jacksonville into Savannah and Charleston.

The tides are coming up, and then this is gonna come off the coast probably near Cape Canaveral tomorrow afternoon, tomorrow night, and then come north between Savannah and Charleston, I think, later Friday. So, you’ll have the water that’s two, three, four feet above normal, and then the storm surge coming up.

And so, we want to be concerned about that area. This is a done deal as far as these areas are gonna be devastated. And you know, people that I talk to a week ago, some of my friends down there saying “You gotta get out of there and stay out of there.”

And the reason why is the recovery — it may not be, you know, three, four, five days. You know, Charley it was four days, but Charley was a much smaller storm as far as stature goes, as far as the size. And it ran through Florida.

This thing is gonna crawl five to 10 miles an hour, it’s probably gonna break non-thunderstorm wind speed records. You know, you get a thunderstorm, you get these, you know, big, strong wind gusts. But, you know, places like Orlando and even up the I-4 corridor, all these places are going to probably have wind gusts over hurricane force and not just for five, 10 minutes.

They’ll be 12, 18 hours where the wind will be gusting. It won’t always be over hurricane force, but it’s a very, very slow-moving system. Those of you who have been in a hurricane especially on the East Coast. we’ve had no land-falling hurricanes in Long Island and New England — Sandy went to the south of course in New Jersey — but we’ve had no land-falling hurricanes in 32 years in the Northeast.

And for those of you remember hurricanes because they used to hit once every seven years. Hurricanes were much more frequent from the thirties on into the early nineties. They move fast. Even in Florida they usually are moving pretty fast.

When you get something that moves slow like Harvey did — Harvey got trapped by a cold upper trough, the same way the upper trough of low pressure is capturing this storm and making it move slower. When they move slow like this, it’s a relentless pounding.

It’s not only — it’s a psychological thing. It’s like being in a trench and you can’t come out for a long time. So, we were trying to get people out of there even if they were in areas where, “Well, my building can take 200-mile-an-hour winds.”

That’s fine. But what if you’re still without water seven, eight days behind? And that is a product of what has happened with the supply chain in this country.

CLAY: Okay, Joe. So, thanks for coming on. Joe Bastardi. You said you’ve been using and using your knowledge, you’re 67 years old. What does this storm remind you of in terms of a hurricane that other people out there listening to us right now might have experienced? Where is the analogy that you would draw as to what it may be like when it is finally here and finished?

BASTARDI: Well, it’s a slower moving version of Donna in 1960, right? Florida hasn’t been hit — guys, this is only the sixth time since 1965 a major hurricane has crossed the south coast of Florida. And the 50 years before that there were 16 hurricanes.

I can reference the ’47 hurricane, I can reference the Cape Sable hurricane, which came across near Cape Sable, went out then turned around and hit Savannah, right? I can reference those, but who remembers those?

And that’s one of the problems that you see the reason why people get after me in this climate change thing is because they’re relying on the fact that nobody knows these things. So, when you know and understand that, you can communicate with people.

So, there simply hasn’t been a storm like this since we were back in the 1940s when Florida looked like, you know, railroad tracks crossing it. Now, we had Andrew of course, and we had Charley. But Charley was a small storm that moved quite fast, all right?

This one’s gonna take its time, and in addition, because it’s gonna take its time and get back over the Atlantic….and this is something my company has been —

For those of you watching what’s going on, on Twitter. Some people that follow me, you’ve been watching our track and then the hurricane center goes to our track, and this morning we made a big deal about intensity, and I see their latest bulletin is it’s back up to 65 miles an hour again off the Florida coast when it goes into South Carolina there too.

So, as far as the reference goes, the slow movement of this storm is very unusual. It’s not climate change because it’s not because it’s big — it’s moving slow because a trough of low pressure has captured it in the upper levels of the atmosphere.

BUCK: Joe, just to be clear — and we got Joe Bastardi with us now, who’s sharing his expertise in exactly this, hurricanes and what’s going on right now in Florida — it sounds like you’re saying this is the most destructive force hurricane that we have seen in a hundred years. Is that —

BASTARDI: The totality of it, okay? See, there are many, many different problems here, guys, okay? Think about this. The St. John’s River, all right. It flows north. Doesn’t flow south like most rivers. You say “So, what?” right?

Well, if you get two feet of rain in the river basin area and, meanwhile, Northeast winds are jamming a coastal surge into the inlet where the St. John’s River empties into, what’s going to happen when the coastal surge meets the flood surge coming, in this case, downstream, which is north, right?

So, you have one set of circumstances after another here, but it was all — you could see it coming. That’s what really bothers me about this whole thing. The pattern recognition said…you know we had Earl, then we had Fiona develop in a certain place, and you could see.

Western Caribbean, here it comes, you could see it down the road from 10, 15 days away, as plain as the nose on my Italian face. And the reason we knew that is, previous storms had developed in there, okay. You got Wilma that developed in there.

For instance, Charley developed this there, it had similar patterns but the difference now is in the endgame of the storm and the logistics of trying to clean up after the storm. And it’s moving up the I-4 corridor.

Charley went up the I-4 corridor, but it was a very small storm weakened dramatically and it was in and out in six to 12 hours. This is coming up to Orlando, it’s going to Cape Kennedy and those areas, and then getting out to the water and coming back north.

Each storm — you know, when I bring up storms, each one, it’s like a family, going to a family reunion. Every member of the family is not the same so you have to deal with the unique situation that the storm is in. The genesis of this was very easy to see. Where it’s going to go. And say, well, it was easy to see. Just go look at what was said by my company, okay, and from how far out, right?

CLAY: So, Joe you’re saying obviously it’s going to be really, really bad to the west coast of Florida and that’s where people are focusing on right now. But you’re telling us as this storm slowly moves across Florida, that places like Orlando and then up on the Atlantic coach, the Jacksonvilles, the Savannahs, the Charlestons, they’re gonna, in your mind also deal with some substantial damage from this storm.

In other words, it’s not just going straight across Florida back out into the Atlantic. It’s gonna sweep up around Atlantic coast to the south and hit a bunch of these places too.

BASTARDI: I would say it’s gonna move north — I think Orlando will probably have their highest wind gust on record from a tropical cyclone. I don’t think Jacksonville beats what happened in 1964, like Tampa, Jacksonville doesn’t get hit by major hurricanes because of the configuration of the coastline.

Jacksonville got hit one time, 1964. Dora is their benchmark storm. The benchmark storm in Savannah is 1947. I don’t think it’s gonna beat that. I don’t think it’s gonna beat Hugo in Charleston or Gracie in Charleston.

But it is going to be a top 10 impact event for those areas also. Obviously, for this area of Florida it’s probably gonna be ranked as number one, although if Donna came today to that area, right? People don’t remember, 1960 with Donna was every bit as bad as this, right?

But it moved right through, then it hit North Carolina, then it went up and hit New England, and every state from Maine to Florida had hurricane force winds. In this particular case, this will be confined to the Southeast.

I don’t really think this gets much further north in the mid-Atlantic states, and when it does, it will just be a regular nor’easter. Won’t be a big problem. But the second part of the storm is going to be a significant, major event later Thursday into Saturday morning.

BUCK: Joe Bastardi, chief forecaster as WeatherBELL Analytics. His book is The Weaponization of Weather in the Phony Climate War. Joe, we know you’re super busy. Thank you for sharing your expertise with this. We appreciate you being on.

BASTARDI: Yeah, thanks for having me. I’ve always wanted to be on with you guys. Always been a big fan. God bless you. Enjoy the weather. It’s the only weather you got.

CLAY: We might have to talk to you later again this week —

BUCK: He’s got expertise in weather and great radio. There you go.

CLAY: He’s a genius, clearly. But, I mean, real the historical knowledge there, incredible discussion. We may have to talk to him later this week or early next week about the lasting impact here. But again, right now Ian coming ashore into Florida and it sounds like a lot of you listening in very many different communities throughout Florida and also Georgia and South Carolina are gonna be substantially impacted by Ian as well.

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Senator Paul and Riley Gaines Join Forces to Save Women’s Sports

28 Sep 2022

BUCK: Kentucky senator Rand Paul is with us now and University of Kentucky swimmer Riley Gaines, who tied with Lia Thomas in the 200-yard freestyle of the NCAA women’s championship. Riley Gaines also with us. I thank you both for joining us. Appreciate it.

SEN. PAUL: Thanks. Thanks for having us.

GAINES: Thank you, too.

BUCK: So, Senator Paul, what is this initiative that you’re pushing here or just this campaign? I know we’re gonna have an ad you released today up at ClayAndBuck.com on just the fairness of allowing women only to compete in women’s sports. What do people need to know?


SEN. PAUL: You know, my wife and I saw Riley Gaines on television being brave enough to stand up for women in sports and that really only women — I know this is a radical idea, but that only women — should be in women’s sports. (chuckles) And we thought, my goodness, what a brave young woman who swam at University of Kentucky — my home state, All-American, this great champion, and she’s brave enough, despite all the sort of cyber threats of bullying and repercussions if you do this. She’s been brave enough, and there hasn’t been many that have done it. Most of them have been cowed into silence. But the thing is, somebody has to stand up. So both my wife and I said we want to endorse what Riley Gaines is doing, and as a consequence, Riley Gaines said, well, she wanted to endorse what we were doing; so it worked out very well.


BUCK: Riley, I wanted to ask you, how has this been for you in terms of, first of all, how did the University of Kentucky, how has it been handled by your school? And also, have you gotten a lot of other female swimmers or just female athletes in general who have reached out to you privately to say, “Thank you for what you’re doing”?

GAINES: Yeah. What the (audio drop). I’ve had so much support from my university and really across the state of Kentucky. I think this speaks volumes. I didn’t realize initially when speaking out that so many girls across the country are silent. So what I’m dealing with is truly an anomaly, and so I’m so grateful for everyone in the athletic department. Mitch Barnhart, oh, my gosh, I can’t say enough good things about him. But in terms of getting other people messaging me privately, that’s exactly what it’s been.

There’s been a lot of messaging privately, and of course, it’s because people are scared, especially girls within the Ivy League. They are so emotionally blackmailed. People at their schools within the athletic department are telling them that they will never get into grad school; they will never get a job. Their school has taken their stance for them, and if they so choose to speak out and any harm comes to any sort of transgender athlete, they are solely responsible. And so, these girls are silenced, they’re intimidated, and feel like they’re in the wrong for thinking (crosstalk).

BUCK: Can I ask you, Riley, just in that moment when you were in the NCAA women’s freelance 200-yard championship and you’re telling me you tied way six foot four male, who now goes by Lia Thomas, did people…? Like, were they expected you — and I mean, the people that were really there at that time, the officials running the race and the other team and your team, they were expecting you — to be okay with this?

GAINES: Well, I initially didn’t even want to swim the race. I know there’s great movement behind striking something, and so I thought to myself, “I’m not gonna swim this race. I’m gonna stand on the block,” and so I went to an official and told them, hey, what happens if I don’t swim? He said, “If you don’t swim, it is next person up. He said we will not reserve your spot and there will be someone swimming in that lane.”

And so at that point, I don’t want to sacrifice everything I’ve worked for to give it to someone else and not make a difference. And so I told myself, “Okay, fine, I’ll swim, but I’m not going on the podium.” But then of course we tied, and I thought to myself, “This is all happening so quickly.” But I thought to myself, “Maybe if I get on that podium with Lia Thomas people will see the direct comparison between a six-four biological man and a five-five woman.”

Penn nominated transgender swimmer Lia Thomas as their NCAA woman of the year. Hell of an accomplishment to be woman of the year after only being a woman for a couple of years. https://t.co/gW3acTQ1Jl

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) July 15, 2022

BUCK: Can I just say, you must be a heck all of swimmer. It’s amazing that you tied with a six-foot-four man who’s a college swimmer.

GAINES: (chuckles) I think there’s some speculation there in terms of if Lia Thomas was trying as hard as possible because if Lia had been going times that Thomas went earlier in the season, it would have been… Thomas would have won.

BUCK: Ah, I see. Interesting.

GAINES: So, what a mockery.

BUCK: Well, you’re still the best female swimmer in the country in the NCAA 200-yard freestyle so you’re actually the champion in that event.

GAINES: (chuckling)

.@RandPaul has joined swimmer @RileyGaines in the fight to keep biological men out of women’s sports. @MariaLeaf reports.https://t.co/X7lp48qZ0s

— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) September 28, 2022

BUCK: Senator Rand Paul, can I ask you, is this a matter of…? What happens here with this? Yes, you’re running this ad; we’re gonna have it up at ClayAndBuck.com. People should know more about this. Riley is speaking out. But is this a matter of federal legislation? What has to happen now to protect women’s sports?

SEN. PAUL: I think first we have to publicly talk about it and show that this isn’t normal, this isn’t acceptable, and it’s not fair. I think we have to win the public argument. But there’s also other avenues. The NCAA makes rules, the Olympic Committee on Swimming makes rules, the amateur committees makes rules, and people have to push back. If they don’t push back, they’re just gonna let men take over women’s sports. Imagine if there were five of these Lia Thomases that showed up that were former men’s swimming — been on the swimming the team in college on the men’s team and switch over and they take all the first top five places?

Can you imagine what happens? Well, we have to win the argument — I think the argument’s on our side — then people need to be mothers and fathers of daughters who are swimming saying, “We’re not gonna let this happen,” protesting the amateur rules, the Olympic rules, the NCAA rules. And then is there a possibility government gets involved in maybe. Different state governments are looking at this now. A lot of these universities receive state funds. That was the argument for Title IX in the first place is that if they’re receiving state funds, the state funds would come from taxpayers equally, maybe men and women should have to be treated equally in sports.

There’s some logic behind this, and so the state legislature may be a recourse and ultimately maybe the federal government. If people know me well, they know I’m hesitant to do anything that begins at the federal government. It ought to begin privately first, then locally, then state, then maybe up here. But I’m open to all avenues. But I do want the argument to be had, and I don’t want people to be shamed and to quietly just sit at home and say, “Rumble, rumble, rumble. This is unfair,” but not actually speak out. So, I’m proud of you Riley Gaines for speaking out, and I want to see more of this. I’m hoping she’ll be an example to another generation of young girls coming up and also to other world class athletes competing at that level, that they shouldn’t just give away their sport to men.

BUCK: Senator Paul, I’ve also got to ask you. You’re a doctor. We often have you on the show to talk about Fauci and the covid… We say “the covid madness.” Now I think it’s really the covid wrongness. I mean, they’ve effectively been wrong about everything. And a lot of doctors were mobilized in that effort to be wrong on a matter of — many matters of — public policy. I see a lot of MDs now popping up here and there saying, “Men and women? Not really a lot of biological difference actually.” It just feels like there are people who are destroying the respect and the credibility of medical professionals in pursuit of any number of things, but this is one of them, pretending that there isn’t a biological difference between men and women and that’s right in sports. It matters in a whole range of things.

SEN. PAUL: Yeah, I think when they say things like that that are so clearly refutable just by looking at people and looking at the sheer size, but also there’s all kinds of statistical evidence. I think it’s the top 400 boy runners of the 200 meters are faster than the fastest girl college 200 meters. So, it just is. It’s not something to denigrate women. It’s just they’re different sizes, different size of muscles, different size of lungs. And to say there isn’t is just to be anti-science, to be a flat-earther.

And so I don’t think they can win this argument. That’s the problem even with the covid people. They come out with things that the common man has read enough to know that they’re not being honest with us. It’s the same thing here. They’re gonna tell us Lia Thomas has no advantage being six-foot-four. You know, and so that’s just… (laughing) Nobody believes that, and so they lose their credibility. I don’t think they win the argument. I think they lose their credibility. But it still requires people to speak out and point out their hypocrisy and inconsistencies.

BUCK: Riley, for people who want to support you or any initiatives that you’re doing to try to get the word out, where should they go?

GAINES: Well, I am cochairing a new federal PAC Called NinePAC. The website is NinePAC.org. It mentions what this PAC is in place for. And of course, if people are willing to donate and give back, that’s a great way to help protect biological women in sports.

BUCK: Senator Rand Paul and Riley Gaines, both of Kentucky, thank you so much. Appreciate it.

SEN. PAUL: Thanks, guys.

GAINES: Thank you.

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CLAY: We head now out to the great state of Colorado. We’ve got a lot of you listening out there, our Denver affiliate where we are number one in the entire market, KDFD. Grand Junction KGLN, KNZZ. Aspen, not a bad place — KNFO FM; and Loveland KCOL.

All of you, we appreciate you listening in the state of Colorado, as I said, and we are joined now by Heidi Ganahl, who is making a big run in Colorado to turn that state back into a red state. And we’re trying to emphasize and focus on so many of these battleground states and elections that might not be getting enough attention.

And Heidi, we know how busy you are running your campaign, but thanks for coming on with us. And one of the topics that Buck and I have been talking about a great deal is the rise in crime. And Colorado, particularly the Denver area, is seeing a surge in crime due to the Democrat failed policies on crime. What are you seeing there? How would you change it?

GANAHL: Well, thanks, Clay. I so appreciate the time. Love you guys and all you do for our cause and just being a voice for those of us that don’t have one, especially out in Colorado where our state has taken a terrible turn in the last few years under Jared Polis.

We are number two in fentanyl deaths in the country here. It’s just flowing across our border because Polis made us a sanctuary state and he decriminalized fentanyl. So, that’s feeding a lot of the crime. But we have all the wrong stats on crime.

I mean, you’d think he were talking about Chicago. We’re number one in auto theft, number one in property crime, number one in bank robberies here in Colorado. So, it’s just a hot mess here.

BUCK: Now, Jared Polis you mentioned — and Heidi, it’s Buck — thanks for being with us — that he declared a sanctuary city. He made in 2019 possession of up to four grams of fentanyl a misdemeanor? I mean, I think that’s… usually when people think of decriminalization, they think of marijuana. Decriminalizing fentanyl possession? That seems like something people need to know about.

GANAHL: It’s terrible. I mean, we are just losing kids left and right. We call it fentanyl poisoning ’cause it’s not really overdose. They don’t really know the Xanax or the Adderall they’re messing around with is laced with it.

I’ve had so many families come up and talk to me about losing, you know, their loved ones, their kids, their sisters, their brothers. And fentanyl is just everywhere in Colorado. Law enforcement said unfortunately their hands are tied because we’re a sanctuary state they can’t coordinate with ICE to stop from flowing across our southern border of Colorado.

And so, it’s everywhere. And it’s fueling a lot of the crime and the homelessness. Homelessness is terrible here. It’s taken over Denver, Durango, Grand Junction. And the governor drives by Denver every day — he lives in Boulder — and sees what’s going on. Hasn’t done, you know, a lick to fix it.

It’s just not getting handled here in Colorado. So, I call myself a mom on a mission. I’ve got four great kids. I want to turn our state around. I’m the only elected statewide Republican in Colorado right now. So, I’m excited. We’ve got a great shot to kick out Jared Polis and to get our Colorado back.

CLAY: Heidi, we’ve talked to a lot of moms, we’ve had a lot of them — you may have heard ’em some on this show — running all over the country who are just fed up. I’m a dad, frankly, who’s fed up. But so many suburban moms in particular — you just mentioned that you have four kids — it seems are open to the message based on crime, based on inflation, also based on, frankly, what’s going on in our schools.

What are you hearing from other moms as you run around the state of Colorado? We should also mention, by the way, that you are going to be having the first debate against the governor there tonight in Pueblo, Colorado, KCSJ is our affiliate there. What are you hearing from moms, and what are you expected to do in this debate tonight?

GANAHL: Well, just like what happened in Virginia, parents across Colorado are really ticked off, including me. They flipped 10 school boards last year. And we’ve got an incredible parents coalition. We’ve got a great — mother coalitions that are helping us.

But at the end of the day, I think parents are going to be who flip Colorado. We’ve got one of the highest suicide rates for kids, one of the highest drug addiction rates for kids here in Colorado. Obviously, fentanyl plays into it.

You know we have school shootings here and the governor and Democrats have decided to pull school resource officers out of schools here. So, I call Colorado one of the most dangerous states for kids now, which is just terrible. That is not who we are here.

BUCK: We’re speaking to Heidi Ganahl. She’s running for the governor’s office in Colorado. Heidi, tell us about inflation in your state specifically and how it ties to the policies of the Polis administration.

GANAHL: Well, we are number one — another great award — in inflation in the country. 15.6% since Biden took office. And a lot of that is due to Jared Polis’ tax-and-spend policies. He’s added 85 new taxes and fees. He’s grown the size of government here in Colorado by 25%.

He’s added 4,000 new full-time employees into the agencies and done over 500 executive orders. So, it’s comical to me when he goes on the mainstream media and talks about how moderate he is or he’s libertarian.

There is nothing moderate about Jared Polis. He is doing very extreme things here in Colorado, and he wants to run for president to do it to the rest of the country.

CLAY: So, when you look at this race, you also have a really competitive Senate race. Many people are not paying attention to Colorado. Sometimes that can work to your advantage. What are you seeing on the ground about the independents potentially moving towards the Republican Party and this being something of — ’cause I think it’s gonna happen, Heidi — a Red Wave?

Like, we’re a little bit less than six weeks away from this election. Are you seeing it growing as a you travel around the state?

GANAHL: It is. You know, I say we’re gonna have to win by hand-to-hand combat on the ground. Like, we are door knocking, going to rallies, having town halls, we’re meeting voters where they are. And we’re not just talking to Republicans — we love our Republicans, but we’re talking to unaffiliated voters who make up 45% of the voters in Colorado.

And we’re talking to Democrats too. I went to the Cider Festival in Morrison right by Red Rocks last weekend and I talked to probably 20 different Democrats, and not one of them would commit that we were voting for Jared Polis. They’re as upset as we are about inflation, about crime, about homelessness, and about fentanyl.

BUCK: Where can people go, Heidi — I mean, this is a winnable race for you. You are running a great campaign so far, and it would be so fantastic to have some sanity in the governor’s mansion for Colorado, a great state that has been governed poorly in recent years. For Coloradans who want to get involved, want to help, where should they go?

GANAHL: They should go to HeidiforGov.com. Like I said, I’m a mom who cares about education and school choice. I’ll a small business owner. I built Camp Bow Wow, the franchised company, all over the country and helped entrepreneurs.

And finally, I’m the daughter of a police officer who cares about law and order. I miss the old Colorado, and I want to get it back. I’m gonna be on the front lines fighting as hard as I can for the next 40 days to make that happen.

BUCK: Heidi Ganahl. Good luck to you. Thank you so much. Appreciate you making the time.

GANAHL: Thanks, guys. Have a great day.

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