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Clay & Buck’s Interesting Discussion of “Quiet Quitting”

29 Aug 2022

So “quiet quitting” is a phenomenon in workplaces across America. The Wall Street Journal wrote about this over the weekend.

It seems to be at least spoken about more openly as a post-pandemic phenomenon. People in jobs who decide that they’re gonna do the bare minimum and be a little bit testy with management about whether or not they’ll say one minute past 5 o’clock. There’s some nuance here. There’s interesting discussion.

Terence Thomas Kevin O’Leary — nicknamed “Mr. Wonderful” — is a Canadian businessman, entrepreneur, and television personality on Shark Tank. He warns against the whole idea of quiet quitting.

@kevinolearytv Comment your thoughts! Quiet Quitting is one of the dumbest ideas I’ve ever heard! #kevinoleary #quietquitting #careeradvice #work #entrepreneur #career ♬ original sound – Mr. Wonderful

If you don’t want the job of your boss’s boss, maybe it is time to look for a new job, but this isn’t the way you’re going to advance your career.

We’ve all had jobs where we cannot wait to get out of there. It doesn’t mean showing up drunk or doing a lousy job. That’s going to get you “quiet fired.” But you can look for a new job while you have your current job.

@johnsfinancetips Quiet quitting #quietquitting #newjob #fintok #moneytok #johnsfiancetips ♬ original sound – John Liang

It’s a character-building experience, but it’s also one where the character only gets built if you leave at some point. If you stay, it becomes soul crushing. Clay and Buck shared their best, worst, and shortest job experiences.

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The Trump Document Story Is a Huge Distraction

29 Aug 2022

BUCK: The main story on Fox News right now is about the DOJ saying that they have finished assessing the Trump docs seized from Mar-a-Lago and there are next steps in the legal process. Clay, I want us — before we dive into where the Democrats are, the latest Biden polls — I think we get to that in just a second — but a concern that we talked about last week I think is even growing for me now. I want to know what you think.

The longer we’re talking about the Mar-a-Lago raid at this point, the less we’re talking about the obvious failures of Democrat policy that the voters, independent voters, et cetera, need to know about. At this stage they’re either gonna not prosecute Trump, which means all of this is for what, exactly?

A political hit? A distraction tactic? Which I think it certainly is. An overreach? Yes. But if they don’t prosecute him, we aren’t gonna see anything come of this other than the news stories we’ve already had. And if they do, we’re in an entirely different political environment before the midterms, at least. It will just upend everything.

I think it is unlikely that they will do so. So, do you think we’re effectively in a place now where — I know they’re doing a damage assessment of the classified documents. Here’s the damage assessment, Clay. There was no damage, okay? We could all move on with our lives unless they’re gonna prosecute Trump for this. What do you think?

CLAY: I think that Trump is a huge, colossal distraction for midterm turnout. And let me explain what I mean by that. There’s no doubt that many people are ardent Donald Trump supporters. But, by and large, the most ardent Donald Trump supporter does not come out when Trump himself is not on the ballot.

2018 was the Democrats picked up 40-some-odd congressional seats. I know the Senate was not bad — Republicans actually picked up. But you look at what was going on in the Georgia race where we lost two Senate seats that has cost us trillions and trillions of dollars.

Frankly, if we just win one of those two Georgia Senate seats then there’s no way that Joe Biden is able to spend, I think a fraction of what he has managed to spend. And, Buck, this is my biggest issue with Republicans as we come closer to 2024. The analogy I would use is from the world of sports.

Republicans decided all we have to do is kneel on the football. Biden at the border, Biden with crime, Biden with inflation, Biden with overall — Afghanistan, Ukraine, everything Biden has touched has turned to crap. The Bidas Touch, as we call it. But you still have to stand for something.

And my concern is, what are Republicans standing for as we roll into the midterm? I don’t really think they’ve made a case. And if you’re not making a case, then you’re opening yourself up to attack from the other side. And I think it’s fair to say the Democrats have gone on attack. Now, it’s not necessarily an effective attack.

Semi-fascist is not the way that you would necessarily want to bring the country together. But if you break down where we are, Buck, I think the Dobbs decision has brought a lot of fervored enthusiasm out of particularly suburban women in the United States. I don’t think that Republicans have responded very well there.

And I think the Democrat base is super excited about the idea that they’re finally gonna get Donald Trump, and it’s distracting them. And let me just say this. I think the collapse in gas prices relatively speaking, from $5 down to whatever it is, 3.75 or so, I think for most people that tracks the overall Biden approval rate. And I think he’s gotten a bump. 3.75 is still way too high, but it’s not $5, and it makes people feel better.

BUCK: Been saying this from the beginning of the year because Republicans got used to there being so much damage politically to — there was self-inflicted right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I mean, the polls were horrible. Everything was coming apart.

CLAY: You said it. You said we hit bottom. I can’t imagine it getting worse. In about mid-June Biden hit bottom. He couldn’t go any further. He hit the rock soil of his support, 35% or so.

BUCK: And the problem that we face now is, when people feel like things are improving, they often forget about how bad they were beforehand, right? So, we saw a similar phenomenon when the Obama administration got started. It was always — they picked the worst month of the 2008 Great Recession and would compare everything they were doing to that.

Look where we are now, look where we are now. People would point out; this is the slowest recovery from a recession — under Obama it was the slowest recovery since World War II. Just a function of numbers. But they would say, look at the jobs then, look at the jobs now.

The Biden administration is benefiting from the fact that they bottomed early enough that they’re now transitioning into a phase where they can say, just give us more time. “See? We’ll get it right. We’re fixing it.”

Now, I think that’s total crap. I think the border and crime and the economy and the major issues that people care about are, you know, the very, very top issues are areas where Democrats really have no good answers. But this is also why I think Joe Biden’s gonna run again, everybody, because, as long as things are better than they were when Biden came in to office, the pitch will be, see?

We’re moving in the right direction, right? Remember — I think it was Obama’s — Obama’s phrase was, the car was in the ditch, and we took the car out of the ditch, and this was the whole thing in the 2012 election against Mitt Romney.

So, Republicans — your analogy about kneeling on the football is exactly right, and I was worried about this. I was worried about the complacency. And we see it all over the place. Republicans need to go on offense. Joe Biden, the uniter, is calling Trump voters semi-fascists, everybody.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: He’s just a step away from saying if you voted for Trump, you’re a Nazi. This is Mr. Grandpa the uniter. And Republicans are where? Who’s making the case?

CLAY: I think you’re a hundred percent right. And look. The case is relatively straightforward. The case is everything Biden has touched has turned to crap. At a minimum, Buck, at a minimum the Republican case is, we need to take back the House and the Senate so Biden can’t make things worse.

This was the pitch that should have worked if things hadn’t gone crazy in Georgia. Buck, I was just down in Atlanta this past weekend speaking to a lot of fired up people in the state of Georgia. I still believe if you had to put your finger on one state that is the most important for Republicans to win back, I think it’s Georgia.

Traditionally red state, Stacey Abrams against Brian Kemp, Herschel Walker against the Reverend Raphael Warnock. Gotta win both those seats, gotta win the governorship and keep it, and gotta take back the Senate. And, Buck, that is a powerful message. Biden has done an awful job.

They have rammed through whatever they can in a 50-50 Senate with a narrow margin in the House. They’ve been far left wing. They spent trillions of your dollars. This most recent — and I still think we need to talk about the trillion dollars, potentially, in costs over the student loan move.

Biden has governed recklessly, and he has governed poorly. And at a minimum there needs to be a check on his power, and then we can have a big debate about Biden or Trump or whoever it is in 2024. But this election is about keeping left-wing Democrats from running roughshod over American values.

And we’ve gotta win, and we’ve gotta win big. And I think we’ve really gotta do a better case of making the argument for why this has to happen. And it can’t be defending Trump at Mar-a-Lago. It just can’t be the focal point of the Republican midterm strategy.

BUCK: Yeah. If we circle the wagons from now until Election Day on the Mar-a-Lago issue, we’re gonna lose the Senate for sure, and we’re gonna maybe just squeak out a House victory. We have to be circling the wagons on, “Hey, guys, they were wrong about everything,” which we’ll get into in a second —

CLAY: How about covid?

BUCK: That’s right. That’s what I’m saying.

CLAY: I’m so angry about it that it’s kind of disappeared as a story all of a sudden.

BUCK: Yeah. Completely has evaporated from the news cycle even though, you know, and we’ll break this down. You think of a place like Washington, D.C. The mayor of D.C. decided that students would need vaccines to go to school this fall. I mean, that’s what Washington, D.C., is doing. They have now backtracked on that because, Clay, under the current rules 50% of black 12- to 15-year-olds in the public school system in D.C., half of them —

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: — would have had no educational opportunity. Not even remote learning because there is no remote learning setup now. It’s get the shot or you can’t go to school. Half the 12- to 15-year-old black population of D.C. school age students can’t even go to school under their rules because they won’t get a shot they don’t need that’s already —

CLAY: That doesn’t work.

BUCK: That doesn’t work, and it’s already on shot number — what is it for the kids? At least number three at this point, right? I mean, it has to be.

CLAY: The shots they’re demanding people get have zero impact now, Buck. Zero.

BUCK: And the fact — we’ll get into this in a second — they’re not even finishing human trials of the boosters now. They’re just saying, yeah, we think — looks good to us. No big deal.

CLAY: We’ll have human trials but they’ll just be on all of you —

BUCK: We are the human trials.

CLAY: — it will be after you get the shot. Yes.

BUCK: That is right. The experiment is in real time with all of us. I don’t know what it is. I mean, to the point, Clay — ’cause you’re right. I’ve seen the polls too. The issue for me always with post-Dobbs is that this is the first time there’s gonna be any sense of public referendum on the issue; so, I do believe the Democrats are deeply invested in, oh, you know, because of Dobbs.

But, yeah, in some places clearly there are some particularly suburban moms who are — I’m not sure suburban moms; suburban women — who are speaking out on the issue and perhaps that was in New York State, that congressional seat you talked about was an issue.

CLAY: Evidently, was the entire race.

BUCK: Yeah, he ran, you know, big on that issue. That was a tight congressional seat, though. Now we’re looking at people forgetting, I think, about what was done. Their kids have had — when I say they, I mean millions of parents across the country and in swing states, have had their parents irreparably harmed by covid policies that Democrats unilaterally imposed and continue to impose.

Millions of kids are in districts and in school zones where they now have effectively decided that parents can’t really know about transitioning kids, that they change their name. I mean, this is happening all over the country different places. Transitioning 12-year-olds?

I think parents need to know more about this. The issues that Glenn Youngkin focused in, in Virginia just a year ago will still have salience. But you know what Clay? They want us talking about Mar-a-Lago.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I really believe now, ’cause the other issue that motivates Democrat voters and I think is a problem for independents is that whole Trump circus. You know, they don’t want to deal with it right now. He’s not on the ballot, which is true. So, why are we all getting involved in this?

Tell people who can’t pay their mortgage Democrats are making this harder for you, not “Trump didn’t actually, you know, he did declassify, he didn’t break the Espionage Act.” I think the people that can’t pay their bills, that’s not gonna cut it.

CLAY: I think you’re right. And I think it squares — we need to talk — the timing is a little bit complicated because Biden hit his low right as gas prices peaked, which also simultaneously was as the Dobbs decision came out.

So, I wonder somewhat whether Democrat approval ratings increasing is pegged a lot to gas prices coming down, because, again, 3.75 stinks. But if you were paying 5, it feels better and inflation is so awful, I think a lot of people have gotten used to it.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We agree that this Trump story is going to fade, probably, unless there’s an indictment that’s brought, which would be a whole different level of crazy. And I just don’t think Merrick Garland is going to do that, at minimum, before the midterms.

One thing I was thinking about a lot over the weekend, Buck, the Department of Justice, as you mentioned, says they’ve already reviewed all the documents, found some that were attorney-client privilege. This effectively appears to be over, to me. National Archives got whatever documents they need.

They’re filed correctly now. There’s nothing else hanging out there. Why did Trump keep these documents? Think it’s interesting conversation. What was the reason? ‘Cause this was a slow-moving, long-lasting demand and back and forth with the National Archives. I don’t think there’s any doubt, Buck, that he believed he was entitled to be able to keep them, and I think he got people told him that.

But above and beyond that the only real rationale I can come up with is he believes that he has documents which go to Russia collusion, Ukraine, something of that nature, and we wanted to have proof of it because he didn’t trust that the government would maintain these documents if he didn’t control them.

BUCK: I’ve been told that —

CLAY: Does that make any sense to you at all?

BUCK: I’ve been told that by people who worked in the Trump White House, that that is what this was about, that they believe that he wanted to keep his own record of this, which, for somebody who may run again, you can understand why that would be very useful, right?

You don’t want to be relying on the National Archives to give you evidence of a massive deep state federal government plot to undermine and destroy your presidency. That is the best possible explanation for it. I would also note that the 15 boxes — I mean, you gotta assume it’s probably thousands of pages of documents.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So, there are thousands of pages, and they said, “Oh, there’s over a hundred that are classified,” to which you would want to point out, I think, okay. But did he declassify those?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Did he have a right to take them? If he did, what are we even talking about? It’s not like he just took everything classified he could for no good reason.

CLAY: I also wonder if he might have made copies of any of these things and how that could factor in.

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NY’s Unelected Governor Tells GOP to Get Out

29 Aug 2022

You’re not New Yorkers if you voted, basically, for Trump. Listen to this:

Buck is a lifelong New Yorker, born and raised New York City. This statement by Kathy Hochul — the Democrat governor of the Empire State — is just now starting to get attention, but she told Republicans to “jump on a bus and head down to Florida where you belong.”

Hochul’s people are saying that she meant the politicians that she named there and not everybody who voted for them, the disdain is the same really either way. And it’s funny to hear an unelected governor, who never won any votes to get into this role, talk about other people as “dictators.”

We have no patience for people who live in New York or California or any blue state who have forgotten the madness of, let’s say, “Cuomo Chips,” or forgotten the outdoor dining shutdowns during covid.

This is also the exact opposite of what’s going on with Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, who’s traveling down to Florida right now begging everybody to come back because the overall tax rolls of New York City and New York State are being drastically impacted by the departure of the people who are most able to leave, which are frequently the highest earning, highest paying tax earners in the entire region.

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C&B 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Show Prep

29 Aug 2022

  • New York Post: Hillary Clinton posts dance floor pic in support of Finnish PM Sanna Marin
  • New York Post: Lindsey Graham warns of ‘riots in the streets’ if Trump is prosecuted
  • Federalist: The Short Life (And Amazingly Fast Death) Of The FBI’s Mar-A-Lago Play
  • Federalist: Redacted Mar-A-Lago Affidavit Confirms Biden’s DOJ Fished For A Crime To Pin On Trump
  • BizPacReview: Tucker breaks down how the FBI is ‘actively working on behalf of the Democratic Party’

  • UK Daily Mail: Republicans’ fortunes are falling: GOP is now predicted to retake the House by just EIGHT seats in new battleground poll – with Biden’s approval ticking up to 45% as independents are split over Mar-a-Lago raid
  • Breitbart: Dead Heat in Wisconsin: Poll Shows Tight Governor, Senate Races in Badger State
  • Breitbart: Democrat Leaders Increasingly Demonize Republican Voters — Not Just Politicians
  • Wall Street JOurnal: If Your Co-Workers Are ‘Quiet Quitting,’ Here’s What That Means. Some Gen Z professionals are saying no to hustle culture; ‘I’m not going to go extra’

  • Breitbart: ‘Terrible Policy’: Ex-Clinton Adviser Paul Begala Despairs at Biden’s Student Loan Forgiveness
  • UK Daily Mail: Bernie Sanders says Democrats criticizing Biden’s student loan ploy are ‘CORRECT’ because the plan could have gone ‘further’ and not just benefitted some of the top earners
  • Gateway Pundit: Census Bureau: 3.8 Million Americans Will Likely Be Evicted in Next Two Months #BidenEffect

  • New York Post: FBI put the Hunter Biden story right in Facebook’s lap – Miranda Devine
  • HotAir: FBI: No, we would never have told Zuckerberg to bury the Hunter laptop story

  • Daily Wire: ‘Vote Republican:’ Joe Rogan Tells Americans To Swing Red After ‘Serious Errors’ Made During Pandemic
  • Daily Wire: Joe Rogan Calls Psaki A Liar, And Likens Her Ex-Trump Counterpart To Michael Jordan
  • HotAir: Illinois offering permanent vote by mail option
  • PJ Media: Whoa, Did Biden Admit Elections Have Been Stolen?

  • Daily Wire: Report: COVID Boosters Could Be Authorized For Use Before Human Testing Is Completed
  • JustTheNews: ‘Fraudulent’ death certificate data at heart of college COVID mandate lawsuit

  • New York Post: NYC struggling to house busloads of migrants as hotel, intake center plan falls apart
  • Breitbart: 35 Shot, 8 Killed, During Weekend in Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s Chicago
  • PJ Media: CIA Admits to Losing Dozens of Intelligence Assets Around the World

  • HotAir: CNN: We’re really trying to be less of a Democratic mouthpiece
  • Breitbart: Energy Crisis: One in Four Britons Will Not Turn On Heating Over Winter Months – Poll

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    Andrew Tate Speaks the Truth on Covid Hypocrisy

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    BUCK: We were just talking about “The Fauch” and covid. Did you see this? Just as way of little backstory here, I had been thinking that we should have Andrew Tate on the show in recent weeks, and we hadn’t been able to. We wanted to get him. We just weren’t able to track him down, and we didn’t really assign the team to do the full chase-down. He was on… Now, he says some controversial stuff, but I think controversial is often interesting, but not everything that he says is something I or Clay would agree with. But a lot of it is actually quite sound, and what he said on covid, I thought, was really good. Did you see this last night on Tucker’s show?

    CLAY: Yeah, I know he was on, but I haven’t heard it specifically.

    BUCK: So here he is talking about the two-tiered system. This is on Tucker’s show last night, Andrew Tate. And if he’s listening or one of his friends is listening and get us in touch with him. We’d gladly have him on the show because he has been effectively canceled from the internet, like just… They gave him the full Alex Jones treatment in terms of he’s off YouTube, his payment process, everything. Everything. But he saw covid for what it is.

    BUCK: It’s totally true. And it’s also a reminder that there were people who were so power hungry and, honestly, so stupid that they were yelling at people to pull their masks up above their nose on the plane. There were airline employees. I was… I was, uh, you know…

    CLAY: Reprimanded.

    BUCK: Thank you. That’s the word I’m looking for. He was reprimanded numerous times for mask beneath the nose while on a plane. The people who did that — a guy one time and a woman one time — they should be embarrassed at how stupid they are. And I will not back down from that. What they did was appalling.

    CLAY: And there remains, as we finish off tweak, I just want everybody to think about this, an extreme classist divide, even today in terms of who’s wearing masks. You watch the Nancy Pelosi, high-level charity events, the high-level fundraising events that Democrats put on; overwhelmingly, the wait staff is still wearing masks. And to his point, if you’re rich enough to have a private plane, you don’t have to worry about wearing a mask while you flew. That was for the peons. That was for the people down below.

    BUCK: Gavin Newsom signed a restaurant closure order and went to the fanciest restaurant in California the next day —

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: — with 12 people and then tried to be like, “Oh, it was partially inside, like, partially outside.” I don’t think so.

    CLAY: Remember Justin Trudeau flew to Costa Rica with his family without wearing a mask while everybody in Canada still has to wear masks. I mean, it’s just crazy.

    BUCK: If you had to pick Trudeau or Gavin Newsom in a long car ride for six hours?

    CLAY: Gavin Newsom, ’cause I think he’s more of a fraud. Probably be more fun.

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    Must Watch: Rabid Fox Attacks Woman, Fails to Kill Buck’s Pet Dream

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    BUCK: We’ve got approval for it so we’re gonna be doing Animal Thunderdome, which will be a lot of fun. You know, you see that local news story about a guy whose five-foot-long iguana gets loose and attacks the mailman’s ankle or something. We’re gonna be talking about it on Animal Thunderdome. Getting bitten by an iguana, by the way, seems somehow worse than being bitten by a dog, even though I guess they both hurt.

    CLAY: Did you see the woman get attacked by the fox? You’ve been talking about how friendly foxes are.

    BUCK: Clay —

    CLAY: It was a rabid fox.

    BUCK: The fox was rabid.

    CLAY: Yes. True.

    BUCK: Any animal that becomes rabid can become aggressive. My dream of owning a fox as a pet is not yet done because of the rabid fox.

    CLAY: Has Carrie heard about the dream of the fox pet?

    BUCK: I’m working on it with her. I’m working on her.

    CLAY: You’re engaged. It’s not just something you could take up on your own. You gotta talk through it with the fiancee, with the soon-to-be-wife.

    BUCK: I think she would describe my desire to have a pet fox as amusing but weird. And, you know, like, some guys are really into playing Final Fantasy on PlayStation or whatever. Other guys want a pet fox. I don’t know what to tell you. It’s stuff that happens out there. So —

    CLAY: I’m just saying rabid fox attacked that woman, grandma has a good right leg, otherwise she might be dead. I don’t think it would have killed her, but she did really punch —

    BUCK: There’s video of her fighting it off, and that thing is a mean little thing.

    CLAY: Vicious. There’s no other way to describe it.

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    Biden Goes on Offense — Where Are the Republicans?

    26 Aug 2022

    BUCK: Democrats — sure, they’ve been telling this — pushing this narrative of, you know, the big Biden summer and the comeback and all this stuff. If you really look… You have to look at people that care about the economy as a function of their money and whether things are getting better or getting worse, when they’re making money for clients, whether their business will function well in the months ahead or whether we will be in for some rough times. The storyline is not good right now, folks, economically.

    We are in what would be a recession by all accepted — previously accepted — definitions, but we know they changed the definition of recession when the actual data came out. We feel like we’re on the edge right now of what will be a recession that is unavoidable in its impact, right? We’re gonna feel like things are getting more expensive, jobs will be lost, all of that. This could very well happen. And so, they want everyone talking about everything else. And one thing I will say for Democrats is, you almost have to admire, Clay, the shamelessness.

    They’ve done a horrible job. They were awful on covid. They are terrible on crime. The border is — and this is without exaggeration — the worst it has ever been in the history of this country. The U.S.-Mexico border when it comes to lawlessness and fentanyl and illegal immigration and everything. And inflation is terrible, the economy’s on the brink of not just like a little recession but maybe a really bad one. And they’re going on offense. Here is Joe Biden, who’s just straight up saying, MAGA Republicans, I guess which means that Republican who voted for Trump, no respect for them.

    BUCK: Doesn’t respect the MAGA Republicans. Clay, he referred to MAGA Republicans as semifascists, which we discussed earlier. Democrats going on offense. It’s the talking points, it’s the attacks. Republicans have gotta start swinging back a bit, have gotta start making some noise, have gotta start running some aggressive ads. I think there’s a little bit of a complacency that we’ve been warning everybody about that’s crept into the GOP. Old man Biden’s taking swings. He doesn’t know who he’s swinging at, and he’s unsteady and he’s gonna fall down doing it, but he’s taking swings.

    CLAY: He just had a two-week vacation, and he decided to have a rally. You know where that rally was? Rockville, Maryland. They basically flew him… I don’t know if he was in a helicopter. I would presume they flew him out in a helicopter there. Maryland, obviously, is one of the strong points of the Democrat coalition right now, even though Larry Hogan is the Republican governor he was talking about.

    But they barely even took him outside of the Beltway. In fact, I think Rockville still inside the Beltway. They didn’t put people out there — 20 minutes outside of where the White House is, basically. And the swings that he’s taking are not just in trying to, again, equate everything to Donald Trump, which, to your point earlier, political calculation-wise, yes, it has rallied Trump supporters, the raid at Mar-a-Lago has.

    But what has been shown pretty consistently, Buck, is, Trump supporters show up to support Donald Trump. They don’t necessarily show up in 2018. They don’t necessarily show up in the special elections in Georgia. And it remains to be seen whether they’ll show up in aggressive numbers in 2022. And the reason why I bring that up is, Biden is — you’re a hundred percent right — on offense. The Penn Wharton review of his potential student debt overrule — I don’t want say “cancellation” because, I mean, basically taking it on taxpayers —

    BUCK: We could say bribe. I like bribe.

    CLAY: Bribe is good. Bribe’s a good word. It may cost a trillion dollars, a trillion dollars. And he did it without passing it legislatively. Because what they’re trying to do now, Buck, speaking of being on offensive is, they’ve come out and said, well, what about the PPP loans? Well, first of all, that passed the legislature, whether you agreed with it or not. Secondly, the reason why PPP loans existed was because the federal government and many state governments were mandating that you couldn’t run your business, and they wanted to try to keep everybody on payroll as opposed to the unemployment rate skyrocketing even higher than it did.

    BUCK: Is anyone really, in public life…? Pundits, news people, are they really so stupid that they don’t know the difference between the situation of PPP and the student debt, you know, bribe issue? This would be like saying if the government tells you you’re not allowed to leave your home for food, why does the government have to bring food to you? Well, because they’re not letting you go get food, right?

    They’re not letting you go earn a living; so, that’s why people… Now, that was a horrifically stupid decision, but it is understandable why the government didn’t just let people all go under, go bankrupt, right? The loan issue here, it’s just amazing. I don’t know. I honestly feel like some of the dumbest people you could find in America have some of the voices that the libs listen to the most. It’s astonishing.

    CLAY: And if you’re out there saying a trillion, well, I thought initially it was 300 billion, and then I thought it was 500 billion. And we’re talking about the Penn Wharton — this is University of Pennsylvania study. Karine Jean-Pierre was pressed on this. And this is pretty amazing because this is basically how my wife answers questions every time she goes out and buys a lot of stuff. How much did you spend? Well, listen to this and then I’ll build on it. Listen.

    CLAY: If you don’t know how much it cost, how do you know it’s paid for? That was the question that I think Jacqui Heinrich was pressing KGP on there. And you may not have heard that opening question, but let me just reiterate again. She asked a very simple question. If you don’t know how much it costs, how do you know that it’s paid for? It reminds me of a lot of conversations with my wife comes back shopping with all these bags and everything, “How much did this cost?”

    “I saved you a lot of money. It was on sale.” “What was the total cost?” “Don’t worry. It’s all paid for.” This is what happens when someone is spending a lot of money and they don’t want to tell you how much they spent. Buck, you’re getting married. There’s a lot of men out there who have had the conversation, “How much did this cost?” “Well, it’s all paid for.” It’s just one big circle, and it doesn’t end well.

    BUCK: It’s remarkable that there’s no shame at all from this White House for the statements that they make about all this stuff. I mean, here is Biden, for example, despite all of the analyses, all of the assessments out at this rally in Maryland? Yeah, I guess they gotta keep him close to home in case it’s nap time.

    CLAY: Yep.

    BUCK: Here he is saying that the Inflation Act will reduce the deficit by 300 billion dollars. Play 19.

    BIDEN: Guess what? You hear Republicans always talk about the deficit, right, about big spending Democrats? Well, guess what. When the last guy was president, he increased the debt by $2 trillion in tax cuts. Not a penny of it paid for, okay? Well, guess what we did? We reduced the deficit. The Inflation Reduction Act lowers the deficit by 300 billion over the next 10 years. And that’s on top of the $350 billion I reduced the deficit last year and the $1.5 trillion reducing it this year.

    BUCK: Remember when he kind of just started screaming? You can tell it’s almost gonna come out, it’s almost babble.

    CLAY: It’s such a lie. It’s such a lie.

    BUCK: The comparison of where the debt is — or, rather, what the deficit is — to what it was under covid is so transparently dishonest, right? Shutting down the country and then having emergency spending almost like we’re in a war, essentially, they created this war against the virus paradigm. Doing better than that is not something to be… It’s like what he said about the jobs, though.

    “To our credit, not a joke, not a joke, you know, we created 70 million jobs!” All their numbers are bullcrap, folks. And if it was true, the part of this that drives even crazier is everything in that bill falls into one of two categories, essentially. I mean, they’ll say, oh, better negotiated prices, you know, bringing your prescription drugs down. Not gonna happen, not gonna work. But it’s all… Giving money to things that Democrats like, and taxing you more.

    And a lot of the tax burden is actually gonna fall on small business owners. That analysis has already been done. The notion this is all gonna be paid for by the rich fat cats. No. You and I have talked about this with everybody so many times. That’s not how it goes. But what else are they gonna say, “We suck at this, and all our ideas and decisions are terrible”? No. Instead, like I said, they’re going on offense. I just wish Republicans would get there.

    I am not seeing fire in the belly, man. I am not seeing people come forward and say, this administration is a disaster. Joe Biden is a nincompoop 30 years ago. Now he’s a dementia addled nincompoop. He’s in charge of the country? This guy is a joke. He’s a clown. Look at the people around him. It’s like the social justice warrior Department of Wellesley College is running the White House. What are we even talking about here, folks? The fact that there are Democrats in close races in these purple states, it’s insane. Independents, what are you seeing here? What could you possibly be in favor of?

    CLAY: I think a big part of it is Republicans basically decided they had this race won and started kneeling on the football, to use a sports analogy.

    BUCK: Running out the clock. Totally.

    CLAY: Did not keep making cases. I think there was a big surprise that Biden suddenly got his, whatever it was, the Inflation Reduction Act. That’s gonna spend more money, that that got shoved through at the last possible moment. And I think Mitch McConnell candidly has mismanaged much of the Senate strategy. And the Senate strategy has been Biden’s a disaster. Just let him light himself on fire and kind of stay back and watch the Democrat plans burn. Problem is, they’re throwing punches.

    And a lot of Republicans are standing there getting hit, and those punches are landing, and there’s not a lot of punches coming back the other way despite the fact you’re not going up against a heavyweight champ. In fact, you’re taking punches from one of the weakest fighters of all time. Based on his record Joe Biden has an unmitigated disaster, but somehow Republicans have allowed him to start to define the playing field.

    And I mean, he just spent a trillion dollars, potentially, with the stroke of a pen. He doesn’t have the constitutional authority to do it. And that adds on to, to your point, Buck, the border, the massive increase in murders, the fact that we’re dealing with the highest inflation in 40 years, and that he just keeps throwing more fuel on the inflation fire. And yet Republicans can’t seem to get out of their own way.

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