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Sen. Ron Johnson on the Trump Raid and His Senate Race Opponent

10 Aug 2022

CLAY: We are joined now by a man who will shortly be on the ballot in Wisconsin. He now knows his opponent. He is Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. We are number one in Milwaukee. We appreciate all of you listening up there. We know that you are gonna give all the support that you can to Senator Ron Johnson. Senator Johnson, before we get into now knowing your opponent and the campaign that you are about to embark upon aggressively, what was your reaction when you saw the news about the FBI raiding Mar-a-Lago, President Trump’s private residence?

SEN. JOHNSON: Well, guys, I hope you’re doing well. I wish I could say I was shocked. I probably was a little bit. Certainly outraged. But on reflection, I guess this doesn’t surprise me. I have been investigating the corruption within our federal government agencies for years. I’ve seen the corruption up close and personal. Again, I don’t want to make this about me.

But the fact of the matters is, the FBI provided me an unsolicited briefing — a secure briefing — in August of 2020, the same month that we now know through whistleblowers that they were hatching this scheme to downplay the derogatory information of Hunter Biden and basically deep six that investigation. I knew it was a bogus briefing. I knew it was a setup. And of course, it was, because about nine months later they leaked to briefing that the Washington Post to smear me.

So, again, you know, I investigated the Hillary Clinton email scandal. We’re the ones that released the Peter Strzok-Lisa Page texts. I investigated the FBI for their corrupt investigation into the Russian collusion hoax. I subpoenaed the FBI. They slow walked it. They really didn’t give us squat. We did everything we can to uncover… I know President Trump was trying to declassify information. Didn’t declassify information; we have never seen a single page of that.

So I am well aware of the corruption at the highest level of the FBI within the Department of Justice, within intelligence agencies. Remember that one famous text in December of 2016 from Peter Strzok to Lisa Page that said, “Think our sisters,” intelligence agencies. “Think our sisters are leaking like mad. Scorned and worried and political, they’re kicking to overdrive.” I think they revealed what they were going to be up to for the next four years, and it’s now into it’s sixth year of diversionary operations, corruptions, doing everything they could to destroy Donald Trump. And quite honestly, guys, now they turned their attention to me and they’re trying to destroy me.

BUCK: Senator Johnson, it’s Buck. Do you think the FBI fixable? People ask me as one who used to work in the CIA, do I “trust the agency,” or do I “trust the FBI”? I say, “No.” Then they ask me, “Well, what can we do about it?” and I say, “Well…” Senator Johnson what should I say? ‘Cause I worry that these institutions are rotting from the top down.

SEN. JOHNSON: I agree with you. I think we need something on the order of a Church Commission to look into all of these agencies — and again, I don’t say that with any kind of glee whatsoever. These are institutions. These are departments and agencies that the American people should have confidence in, whether we’re talking about the federal health agencies, whether we’re talking about our intelligence agencies, our Department of Justice, the FBI. They have given the American public no reason to trust them.

Now, I realize half the American public probably does because they’re satisfied with partisans in charge of all of these agencies. But, I mean, just the outrage of what they did at Mar-a-Lago. I was listening to an interview with Christina Bobb, one of President Trump’s attorneys. You know, she was talking about how President Trump welcomed the FBI in earlier, in June. “Take a look. You think I’ve got something? Here you go. Take a look. See what I’ve got.”

A warrant and, you know, 20 dozen vehicles — or 20 vehicles — and 30 FBI personnel is what the estimate was to show up as opposed to working through his attorneys and maybe the next step would be a subpoena? But to show up with a warrant is so unwarranted, it is so uncalled for, it is just so outrageous. This ought to concern every American. But we’re so divided that it’s only concerning about half of America.

CLAY: Yeah. Senator, I don’t know if you heard Rand Paul’s comments where he said that Merrick Garland — and certainly future Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy has said the same. This feels almost as if it is impeachable in nature. Now, we don’t know exactly what the warrant says, at least not yet. But Merrick Garland made the decision to allow his FBI to investigate a former president and a potential future presidential candidate in a manner that has never occurred before in the history of the United States. Doesn’t the American public as a whole deserve to know way more about his decision-making, and isn’t in general his position as attorney general very much in question at this point in time?

SEN. JOHNSON: I think it certainly should be. I think Christopher Wray’s position ought to be in question. There’s so much we already know, guys. It was my staff that uncovered the redacted — the classified footnotes — to the FISA report which completely contradicted the statement by Bill Priestly of the FBI in the main body of the report saying that the FBI had no idea that there is any kind of Russian influence on the Steele dossier. But they did!

And it was revealed in the footnotes that they redacted, that they classified. And basically, the FBI knew as early as October 2016, certainly by January 2017, that absolutely the Steele dossier was contaminated by Russian disinformation. Now, under Christopher Wray, as late as March of 2018, they briefed the Senate Intel Committee saying that no, we think the Steele dossier has integrity.

So the FBI knew all of this. The intelligence agencies knew these things, and yet they allowed the Mueller probe to continue? They briefed the Senate intel? I mean, what else could you call that other than corruption? And again, Chuck Grassley and I start investigating Hunter Biden, and they brief us in August, a couple months before we issue our report to basically take us off the trail.

BUCK: Speaking to Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Senator, what should the response to all this be for the American people but also for you and your colleagues in the Senate if you do manage to get the majority going in after the midterms here. What does could be able to looking for the abuse of the apparatus by Democrats?

SEN. JOHNSON: Full-blown investigations. But the problem is, they hold all the cards. So when we… Again, I subpoenaed the FBI. I basically didn’t get squat. I’ve been told by people in those agencies that, “Yeah, you were slow-walked.” They knew this administration was coming to an end. They did everything they could to end the Trump presidency. So they slow-walked. They didn’t comply with the document request, the subpoena.

But what they always say is, “Oh, we can’t get that to you because there’s an active investigation; it could harm our investigation.” So, again, they hold all the cards. They know where all the bodies are buried, figuratively speaking. They know what they need to have hide. And they just don’t give it up. They are above the law. They are the law. That is why it is so unbelievably dangerous what they are doing and what they have done.

People need to wake up! You know, on a nonpartisan basis, people have to understand how dangerous this is when you have our law enforcement agencies acting in this way, trampling on people’s rights, trampling on people’s freedom, and being completely unaccountable. But guess what? That’s what they are right now. They are completely unaccountable.

CLAY: Senator Johnson, I know you don’t have an official opponent given the fact that Wisconsin primaries were yesterday. What can you tell us about your opponent and what do you expect for this campaign season to look like?

SEN. JOHNSON: Well, my opponent was chosen by the Democrat elite. They cleared the field. We had one of his opponents spent $12 million, and all of a sudden a couple of weeks ago, he just stepped aside as did everybody else. So, you know, the Democrat Party elite, they don’t have much respect for Democrat voters here in Wisconsin. They chose the most radical leftists, okay, somebody who spent close to $600,000 having the state patrol chauffeur him around when he became lieutenant governor.

Somebody who incited the Kenosha riots by falsely claiming that it was a police vendetta against Jacob Blake. Again, these police have been completely exonerated because Jacob Blake pulled a knife on him, was trying to basically kidnap children. But our lieutenant governor — my opponent now — basically said that that was a vendetta by the police against this individual.

You know, he is the most radical leftist of any potential opponent, but now the mainstream media is trying to paint this guy as some kind of moderate who’s gonna appeal widely to Wisconsinites, at the same time as they’re trying to paint me with he have pejorative possible. I even had an opponent… I’ve had the worst opponent. I’ve had the mainstream media trying to take me out for 18 months.

And, you know, just behind President Trump, I’ve been the number one target. I’ve been tormented. I’ve been lied about. Everything I say has been distorted. And it’s not gonna stop. It’s gonna continue over the next three months. So, if you want me to save the Senate seat, if you want me to do these regulations — because let’s face it, I’ve been the one leading the charge to investigate the corruption of the deep state — RonJohnsonForSenate.com. I’m going to need a lot of help and support. It’s approaching $50 million they’ve already spent trying to destroy me politically, and it has an impact.

CLAY: We’re gonna do everything we can.

SEN. JOHNSON: It has an impact, and the media is part and parcel on that.

BUCK: We have a big audience in Wisconsin —

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: — and they are mobilizing, Senator Johnson, and they should get out there. Everybody listening in the state of Wisconsin, please get out there and support Senator Johnson ’cause the Senate is gonna be crucial, and it’s gonna be down to two seats or so, I would say, in the end. That’s what we’re looking at here. Senator Ron Johnson, always appreciate you, sir. Thanks for being with us.

SEN. JOHNSON: God bless you. Take care.

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Rand Paul: We’ll Look at Impeaching Merrick Garland

10 Aug 2022

BUCK: Let’s set a marker right here, because I think we’re gonna see that this was — and we thought from the very beginning — an abuse of power.

People right now are saying, “There will be accountability if they did that.” Oh, yeah? Accountability in this context — the beginning of accountability, the start of accountability — I would argue, Clay, is the attorney general has got… Now, Biden’s never gonna fire Merrick Garland, obviously. They can impeach-and-remove him, and he should at least get that process in motion after the midterms, if this is what we think it is.

CLAY: I give credit to Kevin McCarthy because almost immediately he said, “Clear your calendar, preserve your documents,” and I’m paraphrasing there, to Merrick Garland in a message that he put out in the immediate aftermath of the raid on Mar-a-Lago. And I agree with Rand Paul, who I think laid it out quite well there. If this, is as we believe it is, a total overreach of government power against one of the top adversaries of the current political dominant force, the Biden administration, this is impeachable. I don’t think there’s any doubt at all about that and that’s why we need to see this warrant, and we need to see it now.

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DOJ Source to Newsweek on Trump Raid: “Spectacular Backfire”

10 Aug 2022

CLAY: Mar-a-Lago. We’ve been talking a lot about the raid. I don’t know if I necessarily believe everything in this story that I am about to share with you because it’s from Newsweek. And, Buck, I don’t remember the last time that Newsweek broke a story that mattered. Do you? Like, when? I remember back in the day Newsweek even during the Clinton impeachment trial and I think Michael Isikoff, as I remember —

BUCK: My friend Josh Hammer runs their editorial page now. They’ve gone a little… They’ve moved away from crazy left; so, I don’t know if they’re breaking news stories quite yet, but I do know their editorial page has gotten some sanity.

CLAY: Yeah, I met Josh, he was down at the Sunshine Summit, I think.

BUCK: That’s right.

CLAY: Good dude. All right. So, I am reading from Newsweek. This story came out earlier today, right before we went on the air. And it says — and the headline is: “Exclusive: An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding and Where,” and it says, “The raid on Mar-a-Lago…” This is the opening the paragraph from the Newsweek story: “The raid on Mar-a-Lago was based largely on information from an FBI confidential human source, one who was able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents, two senior government officials told Newsweek.

“The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI’s deliberations and were granted anonymity,” which makes sense, “in order to discuss sensitive matters…” They say that, and this would be a colossal miscalculation if these FBI idiots really thought this. They say that they believed that by doing the raid while Trump was not at Mar-a-Lago and while he was at New York, that they would keep the raid, quote, “low-key,” and that instead, it turned into a “furious response.”

The Justice official that they quote anonymously here says, “What a spectacular backfire.” He’s a quote from that Justice official, Buck: “I know that there is much speculation out there that this is political persecution, but it is really the best and the worst of the bureaucracy in action. They wanted to punctuate the fact that this was a routine law enforcement action, stripped of any political overtones, and yet [they] got exactly the opposite.”

BUCK: This is what I’ve been telling you everybody, Clay. Do not assume the other side has some strategic genius making these decisions. Joe Biden is the president, everybody. Look at who runs the Democrat Party. They are delusional about Trump. They have terrible judgment about anything involving Trump. And there may be an effort now to blame on the bureaucracy, another thing we have to keep in mind, what was really a politicized decision from the top.

In essence, oh, it’s not that Merrick Garland and Biden and other senior officials at the DOJ wanted to do this to send a message against Trump. It’s that now that it’s backfiring on them, it’s, “Hey, it’s just a bureaucracy doing its job, man. No big deal here. Nothing to see.” So, that is a narrative I think we have to be aware of as a possibility. But here’s something you want to know. You’re asking, bringing up, “What if it’s a letter from Kim Jong-un?” Okay.

CLAY: I was just trying to give an idea of something that we knew existed that they want in the archives. Yeah.

BUCK: Here’s what you could see something. ‘Cause there’s really two possibilities here: Something that is politically devastating for Trump that they found in these boxes which I think the chance of that is the chance of me getting into the press box and calling the whole game for Alabama v. Texas — or UT Texas, right? UT Austin. That’s not gonna happen. The other possibility, though, ’cause they kept saying this in the initial phases, is the classified information piece of this.

Now, it may be the case that in these documents… It’s very easy, by the way, to… You’re moving that volume of documents from the White House, it’s very easy for some things to get in there that might have been marked classified that are declassified by Trump but not marked that way. Remember, he has real-time declassification authority. Hillary Clinton did not, as secretary of state, which is an important —

CLAY: Didn’t we also have…? Sorry to cut you off, but didn’t we have one of Trump’s top assistants who said that most of these documents had been declassified in the paperwork?

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: He came on our show, if I remember correctly.

BUCK: So, what they may have here… We’re talking about Kash, when Kash Patel came on.

CLAY: Kash came on.

BUCK: I could reach out to Kash and ask him about that.

CLAY: That would be good to have that conversation again with him.

BUCK: But let’s say there is one document or a handful of documents that are legitimately marked let’s say top secret and are not being held in the proper storage. The Democrats may decide to dig in on that is, “This is a felony, this is a violation of the Espionage Act,” that is the only thing that I could see them… Now, I don’t think that’ll play, really, because, first of all, this stuff’s under lock and key at Mar-a-Lago. The Secret Service is there. It’s not on a server where someone can hack into it. No one got access to this. And then the issue becomes, Trump isn’t going through this himself. Hillary Clinton was —

CLAY: — really hard to prove. Every crime, Buck, requires mens rea and actus rea, by and large. You have to have the intent to commit the crime and you have to have done an act in furtherance of that crime. Do we really think that Trump was trying to subvert American democracy by hiding classified documents?

BUCK: No. And the difference with what I was saying with Hillary is that she was looking at and operating that email account personally. She was the one reading the emails and engaging in the reckless attempt to hide from public scrutiny her email communication. She didn’t have a classified email address at the State Department. And this is crazy. But Donald Trump isn’t in charge of reviewing personally 15 boxes of documents? Does anyone think for one second Trump is there like, “This probably classified; this probably not classified”? No. So —

CLAY: There’s no way he’s packing the boxes when they’re leaving the White House.

BUCK: Yeah. This is what I mean. Even if there’s something that’s classified in these boxes, that would actually be a White House transition bureaucratic mess-up. They might try to say, “Oh, but Trump is ultimately responsible.” Give me a break. So, that’s where I think they may try to take this to cover up the fact that it was an intimidation raid.

CLAY: So, this Newsweek article… I got one more quote and then I got a theory I want to get your reaction to. Quote from the Newsweek article: “They were seeking to avoid any media circus. So, even though everything made sense bureaucratically and the FBI feared that the documents might be destroyed, they also created the very firestorm they sought to avoid, in ignoring the fallout.”

Okay. Let me ask you this. If Trump doesn’t release the statement that he released on Monday evening that his place had been raided by FBI agents, that they even broke into his safe, remember they had previously gone to Mar-a-Lago and examined these documents, Trump himself even walked by and said “hi,” they say. They locked — padlocked the basement door. Does this raid even become a story if Trump doesn’t put out his statement Monday evening?

BUCK: Wait. There are 30 people there; so, people would have known about it.

CLAY: What I’m saying is, we didn’t know… I don’t remember the story being written about that they had federal agents and people go and visit Mar-a-Lago before to look at these boxes and these documents. In other words, what I’m asking is, did Trump own the story in a way that they thought Trump would not by putting out that statement about the fact that this raid had occurred, and they were thinking —

BUCK: In their minds it was, “Hey, just business as usual, sending 30 FBI goes to Mar-a-Lago to go through stuff.” See, Clay, I worry that this is now the after-the-fact narrative that they’re gonna try to push. We didn’t think this would be thermonuclear in politics. We didn’t think this would be DEFCON 1. Like, how dumb can they really be?

CLAY: I think they’re really dumb.

BUCK: — asking, how low can they go?

CLAY: Well, the reason why I’m asking it is, Trump broke the story that this happened. CNN wasn’t sitting there at the front gate running cameras when the FBI agents arrived. MSNBC didn’t break this, the New York Times didn’t break this, the Washington Post didn’t break this. Trump broke this story when he put out his statement on Monday evening. So, my question is just, did Trump outsmart the FBI and the Department of Justice and the apparatus by doing something that they didn’t anticipate he would do in going public and attacking them before anybody at…?

Remember, there was no other story out there. Think about how often we know — to your point, every time — when they showed up at Roger Stone’s place with guns, oh, CNN was miraculously there at 5:30 a.m., like they were tipped off. There’s nobody tipped off that this raid was happening. This news didn’t get broken by a Biden-friendly source. It was Trump putting out his statement that set off the raging conflagration of a story.

BUCK: There are a couple things. It is very interesting, actually, how this went down with regard to the timeline and who found out about it and when. As you and I recall, Mar-a-Lago, the members there, guys walking around, you’re used to seeing Secret Service and everything. So, unless you were really aware of what they were doing, very unlikely; so, the only people that are really gonna know what’s happening with the search in that, ’cause it also is in the private quarters. It’s not… You know, there weren’t throwing over the tables where the guests are sitting and saying, everybody, you know, hit the deck.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So, they wouldn’t have necessarily said anything. And the media wouldn’t be close enough ’cause they’re not gonna be allowed into the actual area, there’s a big — there’s a checkpoint there. So, they wouldn’t get close enough to actually show anything. And I think on this one they probably recognize that a tip-off in advance of this would then make it impossible to run the, “We’re just law and order. There’s no politics here” narrative. I think they realize the Roger Stone raid was Democrats loved it, but it was a blunder, it was a blunder. It showed their hand.

CLAY: So, I just want everybody out there to think about it. All day long those agents are conducting the raid at Mar-a-Lago. We don’t find out about it, if I correct, Buck, until around 6:30 Eastern when Trump put out his statement on TRUTH Social.

BUCK: So, they were there for all day. No one actually knows it’s going on, and my question for you out there — and I think it’s worth thinking about is, did Trump totally snow them under and take advantage of their stupidity in a way that they didn’t anticipate? Just tossing it out there to think about because he broke the story.

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Outrageous! D.C., New Orleans Mandate Covid Shots for Public School Kids

10 Aug 2022

CLAY: Buck, I don’t know if you have seen this data. I think you have. I think you were tweeting about it recently too. I saw it, and I was furious about it. We fought as hard as we can for kids not to have to wear masks in schools, for schools to just be open, for kids to be able to play sports, all of those things. You listen to the shows; you know that we’ve been on the front lines of that. In fact, it’s been about a year.

We need to go track down the audio and play it again of how controversial it was, Buck, when I spoke at my local school board about the fact that masks were totally unnecessary, and everything that I said has been proven true even though people were furious. “How dare you go and speak out at your local public school board,” and remember Merrick Garland, of course, labeled those school board parents domestic terrorists and decided they were gonna investigate parents who said things they didn’t like.

I was flabbergasted, stunned beyond belief when I saw this story. Washington, D.C., Buck, is requiring the covid shot for kids that are 12 or older in order to go to public school. The city of New Orleans is even more stringent, maybe the most stringent policy in the country right now. I have no idea how it happens in a red state like Louisiana. I don’t know. I believe they’ve got a Democrat governor. But how in the world are the senators and the governors in Louisiana allowing New Orleans to do this, Buck?

They’re requiring covid shots for all kids ages 5 and up to be able to attend school in New Orleans, public school this fall, and I’m sure schools are going back soon in New Orleans because kids go back — my kids are already back — earlier in the than other places in the country. Buck, only 52% of kids have the requisite covid shots in New Orleans, around a similar number in Washington, D.C.

Overwhelmingly, this means that these policies are going to keep minority kids, by and large, who have lower levels of covid shot rate, from being able to actually go to school. How is this not one of the top stories in the entire country? How are most of our listeners out there, who aren’t in Washington, D.C. or New Orleans, hearing about this for the first time I bet just now on this program?

BUCK: Because Democrat media knows going into an election that this is not a place where they win with independents. This is not a place where… They don’t want to have this fight right now. They want the blue localities to take these actions. But they don’t want people to know about it. It’s a bit similar with the border. You will not see between now and Election Day coverage of what is going on at the border.

How many people knew that the DHS officially ended Remain in Mexico in the last week? Didn’t get much media coverage at all, right? They don’t want to talk about these things because we’re getting into the phase here where people’s perception translates into votes, and so there’s gonna be a lot of manipulation and a lot of refusal to cover topics that are not positive for Democrat political purposes, that aren’t gonna help them fool enough people into thinking the Democrat Party is not own open-borders party, is not still a vaccine-mandate party. The fact that they mandate these vaccines for children… You know, Denmark, just as we’ve discussed, said that they’re not giving the shot to anyone under 18 anymore.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And we’re making kids get this shot. It is crazy, but it’s about compliance, and also think there are a lot of really emotionally unwell Democrats on the issue of covid. And I mean, there are millions and millions of people who… The same way that Trump broke people politically, covid broke people emotionally, medically; turned them into hypochondriacs, incapable of reasoning, incapable of thinking through these complicated issues and policies and procedures.

And for them I think the idea is, “We gotta keep this going as long as we can or else we have to face up to what we’ve already done.” If they make kids get the shot for the next year, the next two years, they’ll say, “Oh, the virus has morphed away from being dangerous so I guess now we can…” If they stop now, everyone gets to say, “Well, hold on a second. Why did we have to get the shots a year ago for kids? Explain that one.”

CLAY: Yeah. And I hope, Buck, first of all, if you’re a Republican and you’re listening to us right now and you are in New Orleans — congressperson, senator — how in the world are you not having press conferences about this insanity going on in New Orleans? And if you are a Republican in Congress, given the oversight that Congress has over much of what occurs in Washington, D.C., how are you not beating the drum over this insanity of the covid mandate going on for kids 12 plus in our nation’s capital? That is outrageous.

BUCK: I worry. I think even a lot of people who are center-right are just saying, “Ugh. I don’t want to… Covid, let’s forget about it let’s not talk anymore.”

CLAY: Yeah. I know.

BUCK: There has been no accountability for the people who got everything wrong, okay? This is the way our election cycles work. The morons who shut down your business, who closed your church, who mask up your kids, who masked you up on planes, they are Democrats, and they have gotten away with it up to this point. So we can either let people think, “Oh, this fight is over; let’s not worry about it,” or mobilize and slap it down, ’cause they’re not done. As you’re pointing out, it’s not over.

CLAY: Yeah, and I think this is reason enough to go out and vote in November so that you can get Rand Paul sitting across from Dr. Fauci, because Republicans have control of the Senate. So you can get Kevin McCarthy — and we had Congressman Jim Jordan on yesterday — so that they can hold Dr. Fauci accountable in the House as well. We need these guys grilled. We need them held responsible. We need them to pay the piper for what they did to our country, to our kids, and to everyone out there. And the only way you can do it is by voting red in November and absolutely ensuring a monster landslide.

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Biden Ends Remain in Mexico, As Eric Adams Fumes Over Busloads of Illegals

10 Aug 2022

BUCK: The Remain in Mexico policy has been officially ended by the Biden administration; so, this is a moment where you have to say, “Hold on. The Trump administration figured out a way to bring down the numbers of illegal migrants coming into the country, dramatically bring it down because they disincentivized false or flimsy claims of asylum because it’s no longer possible with Remain in Mexico.”

It would no longer be possible if you’re in that program to just be released in the American interior and either never to show up or maybe only show up for one hearing but not the deportation hearing. So, the scamming of the immigration process is made harder by Remain in Mexico. No surprise to anybody I’m sure, the Biden administration has just announced, we’re done with that, no more Remain in Mexico. So, the incentives right now remain very high for illegals to break our law and come into the country across the southern border.

Whenever journalists go down there and they ask the migrants why are you here, it’s a combination of “Biden promised us we could stay, Democrats say that we’re owed this”; so, we all know what the calculation is in their minds. So, they’re coming in unprecedented numbers. We’ll probably have the highest numbers of illegal migrants coming into the country this year that we’ve maybe ever seen, when all is said and done.

And so Governor Greg Abbott of Texas has gotten sick of this because it is, despite what the libs pretend, an obvious drain on resources. It is also illegal to deal with all of the migrants coming in to the country, costs city and state budgets. So, if the Democrats want so many illegal migrants — and they obviously do — why not put them in Democrat strongholds like New York City and Washington, D.C.? Now there has been some pushback on that?

Because, like so many other things we see, the reality doesn’t line up with what the Democrats had promised us. So, there are thousands and thousands of illegal migrants who are now in the shelter system in New York City and the shelter system in Washington, D.C. They need welfare. They need free medical care. And it’s amazing ’cause we always are always told that illegal immigrants in the country are all just gonna start companies and grow GDP and it’s gonna be amazing. There’s no downside, at all. But the Democrats are now complaining about having more illegal migrants, Clay. And so, this has pushed Mayor Eric Adams to the point where he is now saying — and I just wish he would focus on crime in New York and stop doing the celebrity stuff.

CLAY: — AG focus on crime instead of trying to depose Donald Trump?

BUCK: He is saying that he’s considering taking New Yorkers in buses ’cause they’ve been bused illegal immigrants sent to New York from Texas, he wants to take New Yorkers in buses to campaign against Abbott.

ADAMS: I already called all of my friends in Texas and told them how to cast their vote. And I am deeply contemplating taking a busload of New Yorkers to go to Texas and do some good, old-fashioned door knocking because we have to — for the good of America, we have to get him out of office.

BUCK: I hope that he’s kidding and is not so stupid that he thinks that that would do anything. But I’m not sure, actually. I think he may, in his mind, think that that would be — that sending a busload of Democrat, you know, lib New York activists to Texas is gonna really threaten Abbott’s reelection process. Good luck with that one.

CLAY: Beto has really kind of faded off the scene after his interruption of the press conference in Uvalde. And you guys know out there, I love looking at gambling markets. Right now, Greg Abbott is an overwhelming favorite to be reelected in Texas. So, I love the message actually that Greg Abbott has managed to create on a national level because initially, Buck, this idea that he had of, “I’m gonna put illegal immigrants on buses and send them to Washington, D.C., and send them to New York City.”

I think a lot of people thought, “Oh, that’s never gonna get any attention. There’s no significance that’s gonna come from this,” and actually, what you’ve seen is Muriel Bowser, the mayor of Washington, D.C., and Eric Adams, the mayor of New York City, Buck, they’ve ended up begging for help because they can’t handle this influx of illegal immigrants. That’s despite the fact that they claim that they want to be sanctuary cities.

And what you’re seeing is it doesn’t take that many illegal immigrants arriving to really throw into an uproar these big cities like D.C. and New York. So, to me it crystallizes what people down along the border in Arizona and Texas have been arguing to us for a long time which is thousands of people coming across the border every day is a really big deal in terms of our ability to provide security. And I’ll just mention, we added 87,000 IRS agents. What’s the total number of people…? I think it’s like 30,000 that work at the border, Buck, in an effort to try and restrain all that illegal immigration. Wouldn’t you like to have seen a lot more border agents to influence and implement our laws, as opposed to doubling the size of the IRS?

BUCK: On a broader philosophical level, too, if people can be in the country illegally — and it’s Democrats now, at the top of the party on down, think that that’s a righteous act, that violating our sovereignty, coming into the country illegally, staying here illegally and bringing more and more people illegally, that this is a good thing. Yet they want us all to pay these very exact and onerous taxes, and if we don’t, you’re a bad person, maybe you should even go to prison.

So, you can be in the country illegally and that’s entirely fine, but if you mispay or underpay or underreport your taxes which has — for any individual — it’s so interesting, isn’t it? There’s aggregate crime on the one hand. There’s aggregate crime on the other, right? Millions and millions of illegals, lots of people what aren’t paying taxes. But any one individual — this is what they’ll say — you really to want send that one person back?

So, the one illegal they’ll say should be able to stay here, but if you don’t pay your taxes, even though it has zero impact on the federal budget, it has zero impact on any other American’s actual rights, but they have to send a message that the law is the law, they’ll send your butt to prison. So, when does the law count and when does it not count? That’s what I want to know.

CLAY: I just continue to point out, too, the U.S. Open up in your neck of the woods in New York City is about to start soon. Novak Djokovic could cross the border illegally and come right into America without having to get tested at all for covid and theoretically get on one of those buses that Greg Abbott is driving up to New York City and legally, at least according to Eric Adams and everybody else, be in the United States. Why wouldn’t he be eligible to play in the —

BUCK: I don’t think the Open would let… I think the Open would say —

CLAY: Based on the laws that are in play right now, you don’t have to take a covid test in order to cross our southern border. I just think it would be amazing if Novak decided, “Hey, I’m gonna come into America for the U.S. Open, I’m gonna try to increase my majors, they won’t let me fly in because I’m not getting the covid shot; that’s stupid. But if I walk across the southern border illegally, they’ll probably let me in the country, and then I’m just gonna head up to New York City, I got my tennis racket and my backpack, I’m gonna go play.”

BUCK: I don’t —

CLAY: It is really funny.

BUCK: I mean, it would require some legwork, require some effort. But the whole thing is so stupid that it defies belief that we’re even still at this point where people — the fact that we have vaccine mandates for anything, for anything in this country related to covid is total madness, as now it’s apparent beyond any real argument or debate because individuals…

Look, if covid’s so scary, everyone should be able to make that choice for themselves. But Djokovic, I give him a lot of credit, man, ’cause he’s also, for everyone, if you don’t follow tennis, he’s one of the best that’s ever played, maybe the greatest tennis player of all time — some people would argue that — and he’s right at the edge of, if he wins a couple more majors he’ll be the greatest player by major wins of all time, and he’s risking a major win ’cause he doesn’t want to get the covid shot.

CLAY: He might well have won Australian Open, might well have won the U.S. Open. He’s probably not gonna be allowed to play in either this year. According to Statistica in the last year of 2020 — this is the last year they updated — there were 19,740 agents employed by United States Border Patrol. So, we are, in one year, going to quadruple the number of Border Patrol agents that there currently are.

And we’re gonna hire that 87,000 IRS agents. I mean, that’s just wild to think about. Nearly 70,000 more new IRS agents than total Border Patrol members we have. That’s crazy to think about. All right. When we come back, Buck, I got a crazy story for you. And it’s sad, and it’s unfortunate and relates to covid policy and kids. I don’t know if you’ve heard this yet or not. But I think it’s gonna blow your mind. And it certainly blew mine.

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Tone-Deaf Dems Have Fired Up the Trump Train for 2024

10 Aug 2022

CLAY: Reports are out there that MSNBC star (chuckles) Joe Scarborough may be offered $20 million to go to CNN. He currently appears on a morning show that is not very highly watched on MSNBC, and he’s got a lot of really bad takes, Buck, including…

BUCK: (laughing) Yes.

CLAY: We talked about it earlier. I’m not sure sure I’ve seen anything galvanize Republicans more around Trump since November 2020 than the reaction to the FBI raid on his private residence at Mar-a-Lago. Meanwhile, Joe Scarborough sees this same reaction and says, “Trump is destroying the Republican Party.”

That’s what he said yesterday or today, whenever it was. He’s an idiot. Listen.

SCARBOROUGH: If Democrats ten years ago could have put together a plot to destroy the modern Republican Party and find a guy who could win in 2016 but then lose the House and lose the Senate and then lose the White House — and then, two years later, pick carpetbaggers who are crazy kooks who really aren’t gonna do well in the general election — nobody can be that smart. I mean, Trump is doing more than destroy the Republican Party than Teddy Kennedy ever dreamed of doing.

CLAY: I don’t know how tone-deaf they are, honestly, with how poorly Democrats play outside of New York and L.A. I really don’t think they have any clue.

BUCK: Republicans should take some advice here insofar as whatever Joe Scarborough tells them they should do, do the opposite of that thing. Whenever he says, “This is going to play really well in the heartland,” do the opposite of what Joe Scarborough is telling you to do. And he leaves out in this analysis. It reminds me when they used to do, “Who’s committing all the terrorism in America?” They would have the chart, and you go that chart doesn’t seem… Oh, they’re cutting 9/11 out of it.

CLAY: Yeah, right.

BUCK: And then all of a sudden, they look at the other terrorism that occurs. Libs love to do that, by the way. It’s a constant graphing trick that they do, graphics trick that they put up. It reminds me of this where you leave out Trump came into office beating Hillary Clinton and the entire Democrat machine and handing Republicans the House and the Senate as part of the Trump wave! That needs to be a part of the discourse too. It can’t just be, “Yeah, there’s a once-in-a-century pandemic and Republicans have a bad year at the end of Trump’s first term because Democrats terrified and mentally destroyed everybody.”

CLAY: And it wasn’t even a bad year! You know, 75 million votes, winning almost the House, gaining seats. If things hadn’t gone awry in Georgia, which is the one thing I think you could point to and say —

BUCK: That’s the inexcusable loss.

CLAY: Yeah. That’s the one where you can point to and say: Trump cost two seats in Georgia. But outside of that, I don’t buy into anything that Scarborough’s saying here.

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What Did They Look for in Melania’s Closet? Letters from Kim Jong-un?

10 Aug 2022

BUCK: We told you yesterday about the news that broke of an FBI raid on former president Trump’s home in Palm Beach. Clay and I were sitting there with President Trump just this last, what was it, February. And it’s quite a facility. And they showed up, about 30 FBI agents. And we now want to tell you some of the details of this. And just remember, in the background of this discussion they were saying, just wait for all the facts. This is all by the book, you don’t know what’s in the warrant, which I think is all an attempt to try to tamp down the anger, the righteous anger that people feel about what was done to Donald Trump here.

So, here’s what we know about this one, about what happened. First of all, according to Eric Trump — who runs the Trump Organization now, one of Donald Trump’s sons and also one of his lawyers, Christina Bobb — this is what we know.

They refused to hand over the warrant initially. So, they just said, “We have a warrant.” They wouldn’t give a copy of the warrant, which I do not believe is standard process. They kicked the lawyer, Christina Bobb, off the property, out of Mar-a-Lago, made her wait at the end of the driveway. It’s a pretty long driveway. So, think about this. They’re telling you not only are you not allowed inside the building where the search is going on or the structure where the search is going on, they also insisted that she go about almost, what, a hundred yards, 50 yards from the house.

They wanted cameras, surveillance cameras, security cameras inside the facility turned off. They didn’t want people to see what they were going for. They searched for hours, including in President Donald Trump’s private office, they searched an area in the basement where they were keeping records under lock and key. They searched Melania’s wardrobe; so, they went through Melania, the former first lady’s closet.

CLAY: Let’s just pause there for a minute, Buck, ’cause I saw that detail. What in the world could they be looking for in Melania’s closet?

BUCK: That’s the question.

CLAY: Right?

BUCK: They did it because they could. They did it because they were sending a message. They want to show that, “No one’s above the law. Not even Melania’s lingerie cabinet is above the law, sir.” That seems to be the belief here.

CLAY: Yeah, I just I saw that detail and it jumped out of me because — and you say, “Well, you gotta search every to make sure that nothing’s hidden there.” Okay, first of all — and this is the very first question that I had when you called as soon as this news broke, Buck. I said, “What could they possibly think that they are going to find in this search that is so incriminating that they’re going to bring criminal charges based on what they uncover?”

BUCK: Let’s assume that there was a smoking gun as we’ve said, and that would be something like handwritten letter from Putin to Trump. “Trumpy Trump, I love you, I’m glad we sole the election together 2016 — signed, Russian dictator, Vladimir Putin.” Let’s just say something that would be tough for us to explain, right? That would be a hard one if that existed. Of course, it doesn’t exist but just for our thought exercise here. Are they locking it up in Melania’s closet?

CLAY: Are they hiding it in her bra drawer? I mean, seriously, would that be the place to keep it?

BUCK: They broke into a trump safe. As we discussed with Andy McCarthy yesterday, who’s on Fox right now talking about it because he’s one of the best guys on the subject you can find anywhere about process and federal procedure in an incident like this. Usually, you take custody of the safe and you get a separate judge weighing in to say that you can actually break into it. They’ve apparently already said they didn’t find anything in the safe.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So, they broke into his safe. Nothing in there. I mean, let’s all be very clear. They are treating former president Trump like Pablo Escobar here, right? This is outrageous. There was no need for this. They already had the National Archives back and forth with Trump and his lawyers. They took 15 boxes of material they thought should be presidential records.

Clay, I think this is about…as crazy at it is, ’cause the libs are emotionally destroyed by Trump, including Merrick Garland. I think he’s an anti-Trump loon. This is about presidential records. “Nobody’s above the law.” Clay, he’s got the attorney general for the state of New York suing him civilly. He’s had to plead the fifth today. How many garbage investigations of one person that uncover no criminality have to happen before we all realize this is a witch hunt and this is persecution?

CLAY: It’s a very fair question. And I’ve been sitting around just trying to think. First of all, we need to see the warrant, all right? This warrant that this far-left-wing activist judge signed. What did they specify that they were trying to find? And remember, I think it’s worth going over this, there has to be probable cause, there has to be reasonable and particular descriptions inside of that warrant of exactly what they are looking for.

The only thing that I can think of — and, you know, I think I sent a text to you about this. Remember when there was talk that Kim Jong-un was writing all these. I think Trump even described them as big, beautiful letters, that he was writing the North Korean dictator to Trump? I don’t think we’ve ever seen any of these. And I remember — am I crazy or were they like oversized Publishers Clearinghouse, like, sized letters? Do you remember, like, the envelope being huge, like, Trump held it up once?

BUCK: I honestly don’t. I don’t.

CLAY: Somebody out there verify that I’m not totally remembering this is crazy.

BUCK: Trump does describe everything he likes as big and beautiful, to be fair —

CLAY: I think that physically the envelope, somebody on the staff has to back me up on this — physically I remember the envelope being absurdly large and Trump was holding it up. It looked like, you know, like a briefcase size envelope, if I remember, one of these letters from Kim Jong-un. Could they be trying to seize these letters from Kim Jong-un because Kim Jong-un liked Trump, evidently, and say, oh, look, the North Korean dictator was saying that he would help Donald Trump try to —

BUCK: Clay, now you’re calling your hole-in-one on the 12th hole, okay, buddy?

CLAY: I’m just trying to play out here something that we know existed, something that theoretically would be… I would like to, a hundred years from now, know what those letters actually said.

BUCK: But I don’t think it’s that complicated. And again, this is my assessment. I don’t know, but I’m pretty confident. I mean, I would definitely… We can’t keep track of all our steak bets. We’re gonna have the staff here write them down. But what I think is most likely is they saw a procedural. This is why I brought up the Logan Act. They saw a pretextual reason to do this, and they’re desperate and they hate Trump, and they’re delusion about how this is going to play out.

They have terrible judgment about what the response of most of the American people, not even just Trump supporters will do, ’cause even some Democrats are a little queasy over this one. This does set an obvious, really bad president. It might have just been “Trump’s not above the law; so, we’re gonna slap him down with this. We’re gonna show that he’s reckless with classified information” or something like that. And a fishing expedition. Meaning, Clay, maybe they think they’re gonna find… It’s not that they even, to use your Kim Jong-un letter, they’re looking for that letter, but they’re looking for an excuse to look for letters like that one that they don’t even know exist. You know what I mean? They’re just looking to see what they can dredge up from anywhere.

CLAY: And the thing that would support your argument there is the idea that they’re going through Melania’s clothes. Look, nobody wants to have somebody who is a federal agent ever going through their home, but what possible reasonable and particular details could have meant that they can go through Melania Trump’s, all of her clothes, all her belongings. She’s probably got a ton of shoes if she’s anything like my wife. What are they thinking that they’re gonna find there? Like, Trump was gonna be, like, “Oh, let’s go hide this incriminating letter in Melania’s dresses!”

BUCK: Can I ask you this?

CLAY: It’s crazy.

BUCK: I mean, do you think that Letitia James, the attorney general for the state of New York…? New York is a mess. New York City has crime problems, all kinds of serious stuff and even the mayor here has his said the criminal justice system, the mayor as said it’s a disaster. Letitia James, the attorney general for the state of New York, is pushing yet another investigation of the Trump Organization. Yet another, “Oh, we’re gonna get him on some civil charge of fraud” or something. Do you think she actually thinks she’s gonna win or is the process the punishment? I think libs are addicted to process punishments for anything Trump-related because this is who they are.

CLAY: I think process punishment. I also think it’s probably the best political branding possible for her. This is unfortunate. I think a lot of these DAs, I think a lot of these attorney generals, they want to end up in bigger office than the office that they have now. And the best way, if you are a Democrat, that you can establish your bona fides right now with the Democrat Party is by going after Donald Trump in a legal process. I mean, they were ready to make Michael Avenatti the Democratic nominee for president just ’cause he was representing Stormy Daniels.

BUCK: One way that I knew — and I took a very hard line early, very early on, on the Kavanaugh situation, about how he was clearly innocent and this was a setup and it was grotesque what they did to him was I said, “All right, the first person comes out, the second person comes and it’s even weaker, then the third person comes out and she’s crazy, and those were the ones that they vetted.”

Then there were lots of other, “Oh, Kavanaugh raped me in Hawaii in 1942.” It’s like, he wasn’t even born. There are literal crazy people out there. And I said, “Okay. So, what’s more likely? That these are politically motivated allegations or that there happens to be one that’s true in a sea of lies?” Look at Trump. Trump taxes, Trump emoluments clause, Trump sexual assault, Trump-Russia collusion, Trump-Ukraine phone call. All of it goes to nothing. We’re to believe that now suddenly they’ve got him? No, they’re just crazy.

CLAY: That’s a good argument. And to your point also, I love to bring this up, and even for left wing people, they pause on this. Name something that was beneficial to Trump that the New York Times —

BUCK: Got wrong? Yeah, the media became a anti-Trump organ. That’s clear.

CLAY: — or if you were just incompetent, right, if you were just bad at your job as a journalist, there would have been some story out there that was a hundred percent untrue that Donald Trump saved 18 puppies from being put into, you know, the pound and being thrown into a river and drowning. And then would be like, “Oh, I don’t know about this 18-puppy story, maybe it didn’t actually happen.” There’s not one story that was positive for Trump proven to be false. There’s tons of negative stories proven to be false. It’s a pretty clear example of bias.

BUCK: I think there’s a corollary to that too. One thing we saw in the Trump era — and this… I would say this is true of journalists and this is true of the weaponization of the bureaucracy and the DOJ notably against Trump. Clay, when people get things wrong, they are usually supposed to be apologetic, correct it, and a little embarrassed, right, professionally.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I hate… I mean, something I had to correct recently I said on the air. I hate having to correct things, but I correct things, I’m embarrassed. When the libs either through an investigation or through a media story, to your point, are wrong about Trump, it’s fine, because it served the purpose, which was to attack. It’s not about the truth. It’s about attacking. That’s all you have to know about where these people are coming from.

CLAY: There were giant, oversized envelopes. I was not a crazy man. There are pictures — our staff has tracked them down — of Trump holding up the Kim Jong-un envelope with the letter. It was truly a big, beautiful letter, potentially.

BUCK: No one thinks those only were read by Kim Jong-un and Trump and I don’t even know how good Kim Jong-un’s English is.

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Don’t Trust the FBI! Look at What They Did to General Flynn

10 Aug 2022

CLAY: One thing we haven’t discussed about this raid, Buck, I want to know way more about this judge who signed the warrant that allowed these people — these FBI agents — to storm the gates of Mar-a-Lago. Increasingly, as more details come out about this guy, he seems like, Buck, an incredible partisan. His name is Bruce Reinhart, according to reports. He is an Obama campaign donor who appears to be a rabid partisan. There are more and more videos coming out of him defending Democrats no matter what.

And so, I want to know. He also, as we said before — and I hate to get involved in the “this person represented that person,” because remember John Adams represented the British Redcoats who fired on the patriots in the Boston Massacre. I’ve represented murderers. Who you represent doesn’t always say everything about you as a lawyer.

But when every single thing you’ve done, Buck, is basically associated with being a Democratic operative and then you happen to end up as the judge who gets this warrant to sign, the entire process of obtaining this warrant feels to me, very fishy. Forum shopping in the extreme, knowing that this guy would sign off on anything because he hated Trump, I feel like that’s where we’re going with this.

BUCK: I do also want to remind everybody of who we’re dealing with here when it comes to their ethics, their judgment, their honesty. What is the deep state, what are they really all about, what are they willing to do? General Michael Flynn served his country for over 30 years. The United States military, he was the incoming national security adviser for the Trump administration.

As we now know and they tried very hard to hide it from us at the time, the outgoing Obama White House used the Logan Act — we all remember this — as a pretext for sending in a high level DOJ figure, Sally Yates, used the Logan Act as a pretext to send two FBI agents in to sit down with the incoming national security adviser and then claim that he — based on their handwritten notes, by the way, not an actual transcript of the conversation — lied to them about a phone call that was 100% legal for him to have engaged in.

And the Logan Act, Clay, has never once been used to prosecute a person successfully in the history of the country. And Sally Yates goes, yeah, let’s send them in there under the Logan Act. Let’s say what we can get away with. Comey said this too. Let’s see what we can sneak in there. Those same individuals just with different names but the same mentality, same roles, exists under the Biden administration. And I think that is the mentality that they’ve applied here for the Mar-a-Lago raid, stretching the law to its maximum, bad faith, pretextual, oh, but anything to defend our democracy. They’re shameful. I mean, remember the Logan Act phenomenon? People ought to look that up.

CLAY: And look. Buck, the other thing I would say… We’re gonna talk to Julie Kelly later this week I believe and she’s been doing phenomenal work about the January 6th defendants. She’s also covering right now the situation in Michigan. Remember where they trumpeted the big story about, oh, there was a plot to kidnap and assassinate Governor Whitmer up in Michigan and this is why we have to be so concerned about domestic terrorists. She tweeted, blue checks.

The FBI would never plant evidence. This is something I’m really concerned about with the raid that’s going on right now at Mar-a-Lago. We know that lawyers weren’t allowed to witness the raid. We know they made them stand outside while the raid was going on. I believe we’re gonna talk to Miranda Devine tomorrow who has a really good piece up in the New York Post about some of the details surrounding this raid.

Right now, the Whitmer defendants this morning are arguing that an FBI informant planted explosive materials in the truck of a defendant so the FBI could confiscate the evidence upon arrest. Buck, are you trusting enough of the FBI that you think it’s beyond any doubt that they would behave in a way where they would plant evidence? I’m not… For the FBI already?

BUCK: I worked for the CIA. I had a TS clearance for many years, I was in the federal bureaucracy and in rooms where highly sensitive government operations and it was all being discussed. And as to your question about the FBI, Clay, I would advise anyone in this country right now if the FBI says, hey, I just want to talk to you, the answer is no.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: The answer is talk to my lawyer. No, we just want you to be helpful, we just want to know, do you know this guy who maybe did this thing who might have been around Trump or somebody who might have showed up for that protest on January 6. The answer, no matter what the topic is and the FBI says, “Hey, can we talk to you?” “No, talk to my lawyer.” That’s how much I trust the FBI.

CLAY: If the FBI ever knocks on my door with a search warrant, I’m throwing double birds up at ’em and I’m going straight to my phone to get my lawyers. I tell people that all the time, too, Buck. Look, be very careful talking to authorities when they are trying to claim to you, hey, this is really simple, we just want to clear this up —

BUCK: Trying to help you out. Trying to help you out. We’ll get this done in a minute.

CLAY: Yeah. There are so many people right now who have gotten entrapped with that exact opening. You should always talk to your attorney —

BUCK: General Flynn ran the Defense Intelligence Agency, Clay, and they got him. He got got.

CLAY: I don’t trust the FBI at all. I don’t trust them to conduct an investigation, I don’t trust them to conduct a raid, and I especially don’t trust them in anything surrounding Donald Trump. And I think all of you are with me. They are untrustworthy, period.

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Order 66: FBI Agents Seize GOP Rep. Scott Perry’s Phone

10 Aug 2022

CLAY: Confession: Big Star Wars guy. Not as much the newer movies but we’ve watched them all. Probably not a surprise when you got three young boys in the house, all the Star Wars movies. We talked a lot about the 1980s movies on this program.

BUCK: Greatest trilogy of all time, Clay? I’m gonna put you on the hot seat here, sir: Greatest movie trilogy all time?

CLAY: Ooh. Greatest trilogy movie of all time. I would probably go the original Star Wars.

BUCK: That’s what gonna say.

CLAY: Yeah. Godfather III killed the Godfather trilogy as being the greatest of all time, I think.

BUCK: I go Indiana Jones.

CLAY: Indiana Jones? Indiana Jones is up there. I think Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade is maybe the greatest movie that’s ever been made.

BUCK: Wow. Bold.

CLAY: And when I say that — bold call — but I’m talking about if you’re 6 years old you can watch that movie and love it and if you’re 80. I’m not talking about, like, “Hey, let’s compare it to Orson Welles back in the day to Citizen Kane or something like that,” but just pure enjoyment.

BUCK: I’d also throw in Lord of the Rings trilogy. I read Tolkien growing up or The Hobbit and the trilogy. And I remember even as a very young kid thinking, “How can this not have been made into a movie already?”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You know, so.

CLAY: Yeah, that is a phenomenal trilogy. The Back to the Future trilogy. Back to the Future 1 and 2 it’s got a little bit of The Godfather to it because Back to the Future 3 was much worse, but the Back to the Future trilogy was really good. Point on why I’m thinking about all the trilogies here is Scott Perry — who is a congressman, member of the Freedom Caucus — was on vacation with his family yesterday, and he’s at the beach with his family. And they show up, FBI agents do, and demand that he answer questions. And when he refuses, they take his cell phone from him.

And when I saw this story, this story also broke, Buck… Every day it’s like stories break when I’m sitting in the carpool line to pick up my son at the end of football practice. When I saw this happen, my very first thought was — and I’m not kidding about this — it feels like in Star Wars when you see Emperor Palpatine, who is about to become the evil authority figure taking over the Empire, say, “Execute Order 66.”

Now, Buck knows it. I was texting with our Producer Al; she had no idea what it was. But she asked her fiance, Gerard, who immediately knew. My wife is a big Star Wars person; I was mentioning it to her, this analogy. It actually fits kind of scarily. And if you’re not a Star Wars person, Order 66 was the Emperor — as he’s taking over complete and total power — says, “Execute all the Jedis,” basically. Everyone who had power to stand up against the evil empire was wiped out. Now, Buck, one of the greatest scenes of all time in the Star Wars — and spoiler alert: Yoda does not go down in the Order 66. I’ll allow you to describe for people out there what happened.

BUCK: Oh, the Yoda back flip and double decapitation of his assassins is one of the better moments I can remember from all the Star Wars movies. And I do think a lot of these pop culture moments that you have in these he really powerful films or really popular films do come from some historical analogy. I mean, for example, were you a…? You’re a Game of Thrones guy, right?

CLAY: Oh, love it. Yeah.

BUCK: So much of Game of Thrones. If you are familiar with the War of the Roses in England and you’re familiar with some of these Scottish and England back-and-forth over… Anyway, the red wedding has a historical precedent.

CLAY: One of the great shows of all time in television history.

BUCK: But the Order 66 does remind me a little bit of — and I think it probably was inspired by — though I’m just guessing — the Night of the Long Knives by Hitler back in 1934 when the SS just went in and took out anybody who wasn’t totally on board from within the Nazi and German political hierarchy. So it was a purge within the power circle that existed. So it wasn’t… You know, they were already purging people and assassinating people who were standing up openly. But these were, in some cases, individuals who just weren’t on board enough or were a threat to Hitler’s power. The In the Garden of Beasts book —

CLAY: Great.

BUCK: — I highly, highly recommend that.

CLAY: I have read it as well. Yes.

BUCK: Remember, it builds up to the night of the long knives. That’s essentially the major moment over the course of the book. But I just think it’s so interesting because what did they say in the newspapers the next day? “Oh, we were preventing political violence and a coup; so, we just had to make some ‘arrests,’” and you have to put “arrests” in quotes, obviously.

CLAY: When you start to define words differently, you say, “What is a woman? What is a recession?”

BUCK: “What is a raid?”

CLAY: “What is a raid?” and you are arguing that words are being misused if they in any way are a negative factor associated with your political arm, there is an element of totalitarianism that is at play. And as I was looking at the Scott Perry — not arrest, but — seizure of his phone, my thought was just, who’s next? They are executing what feels like a direct attack upon the strongest members of the Republican Party who are standing up to Joe Biden and his authoritarianism.

And I just want you to think about what the reaction would be in the media, Buck, if, when Donald Trump was president, the FBI had shown up and seized AOC’s phone or if they had shown up and raided Joe Biden’s house and Hunter Biden’s house. Every single Democrat media member at the Washington Post, at MSNBC, at CNN, at the New York Times would be accusing Trump of attempting to become a dictator and using the FBI as his own personal police force. They all would be saying that.

BUCK: I do think that the double-standard issue and the hypocrisy allegation against Democrats is important as a baseline for our discussions, but I think what we’ve also seen is they just don’t care. We pointed… We’ll say, “What if…?” and they respond, “Well, Trump is an existential threat to our democracy,” right? So maybe this is a place we can turn into what we know about the raid now.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Which is increasingly pushing in the direction of what our first impulse was, which is, “This is just a political hit.” Wasn’t it Talleyrand who said, “It’s worse than a mistake. It’s a blunder”? I think Democrats are now waking up the reality that they are — you cannot trust their judgment on anything. No one can trust their judgment on anything involving Donald Trump.

CLAY: I think he thinks that as well, Buck, and we’ll talk about this ’cause I think at the top of the next hour and on into the show. We can also open up phone lines. Buck, what I am seeing is a rallying behind Donald Trump the likes of which I have not seen in years. Now, running up to the election itself, I think most people out there remember the enthusiasm, the fervor, the amount of crazed support that existed for Donald Trump in November of 2020.

I haven’t seen anything like this in nearly two years. The wind, so to speak, is behind the back of Donald Trump. I think that, to your point, Democrats massively overplayed their hand, and reasonable people — who may not even be huge Trump supporters — that are listening to us right now are saying, “I’ve never wanted him to run more than I do right now after that FBI raid.”

And, Buck, there’s reports that some of Trump’s advisers said, “Screw it. Go right to Mar-a-Lago at this exact moment and declare that you’re running for president in 2024.” He didn’t do it. He said, “The time is still not right, but it’s coming,” and I think there’s a lot of people who maybe weren’t as excited to be to the Trump train who are really pretty fired up right now.

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BUCK: Was it a hit on a political rival, the raid at Mar-a-Lago? Going after Donald Trump for the most pure political malevolence here. That as the motivation for what happened I think automatically people that have been paying attention for the last five or six years, that’s the assumption. And the facts certainly are already pointing in that direction. This was Third World-dictatorship nonsense on display from the Biden regime. Karine Jean-Pierre of the West Wing was asked about this, and here is what she said.

BUCK: I think they talk about Trump a lot from this White House, Clay. And I just would note — we’re gonna have to remind everybody of what they were saying versus what the Democrats will be saying. Initially it was, “There needs to be a very high bar. The bar needs to be very high. This a very serious action,” because there I think the one level trying to dampen down the anger. People are pissed off about what happened here.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: People are really unhappy.

CLAY: Rightfully so, yes.

BUCK: Rightly so.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: You’re seeing it, I’m seeing it, peeping reach out. Just give it a week or so and they’re gonna start to say, “Well, you know, in the National Archives is not the most important agency for this kind of an action, but, you know, the law’s the law.” Just give it time. I think that’s where this is headed.

CLAY: Well, that’s certainly where it’s headed. And what I’m bothered by is Biden said, “Oh, I don’t comment on the Department of Justice investigations or…” That’s not true at all. He’s commented on things all the time. I mean, Biden just came out, they had the story out of Albuquerque about the four Muslim men who had been shot.

And Biden tweeted about the fact that he hoped that they were able to find the person who was responsible for that. Now, he won’t comment about it further because the person who was evidently killing the Muslim guys in Albuquerque, that story will disappear. Did you see the story, Buck? It’s just another Muslim guy who was angry about, evidently, who his daughter was dating or some such thing.

BUCK: Why is that so much less newsworthy than what it was in the first 24 hours. We should all wonder about that.

CLAY: The idea is, “Oh, it’s some far-right-wing domestic terrorist.” Joe Biden would have been on an airplane to fly to Albuquerque immediately to talk to the community there and help them heal and everything else. But Biden came out with the border, Buck. He still hasn’t been to the border. But he came out and immediately condemned the agents that were supposedly whipping the Haitian immigrants in that photo, but long before there was any investigation that was associated with that.

He has come out and anytime the narrative fits his preferred view of the world, he regularly weighs in. He said almost immediately about the January 6th defendants that they all needed to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law and basically has allowed his Justice Department to hold people in solitary confinement. I believe we’re gonna talk to Julie Kelly later this week about some of those shenanigans that are going on. And so this idea that Biden doesn’t comment on investigations?

BUCK: It’s not true. It wasn’t true when they used to say that during the Obama administration as well. I think it’s really hard for people to stomach, Clay, that we’re not allowed to question election results because that’s a “threat to democracy,” but weaponizing the DOJ, that’s fine. That’s not a threat. It’s a much, much bigger threat to democracy.

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