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Why Would We Believe the WaPo Nuke Documents Story?

12 Aug 2022

CLAY: The Washington Post is arguing that this was a necessary raid because there were nuclear documents, classified, that were being kept inside of Mar-a-Lago. Now, this is a pretty significant shift from the initial story that they told us, which was this was a National Archives level investigation and that it was predicated on the idea that the National Archives needed to get back some of the documents that had been under Trump’s purview when he was president and that some of those were confidential and needed to be back.

Well, now suddenly — maybe, I would submit, because of all the criticism they’re getting — they’re saying, “No, no, this was under the influence utmost important. We had to go get these documents dealing with nuclear armament because of security issues and how important they were.” But if that’s true, why did they wait 18 months after Donald Trump left the White House to suddenly need to stage a raid? Some of you might say, “Well, they didn’t know that he had those documents.”

Well, shouldn’t the government know if there are important confidential documents that are missing before we get 18 months down, and shouldn’t they have found those documents when they visited and were allowed to have access to everything in June at Mar-a-Lago? This does not add up. And I’m gonna continue to go after the Washington Post when we come back because “Democracy Dies in Darkness.” It also dies when the Washington Post is doing reporting these days.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: I mentioned I was gonna go after the Washington Post here. And I do think that is a big part of the story right now surrounding the Trump, Mar-a-Lago raid that was personally approved by Merrick Garland who should, should have to step back and recuse himself from any investigation of Donald Trump if there was actually any truth and justice in our Justice Department right now, that would be necessary.

But what’s interesting about the Washington Post is how much they’ve gotten wrong. And I think we’ve got a boy-who-cries-wolf scenario really in play when it comes to the Washington Post, MSNBC, CNN, and certainly the New York Times. When you’ve gotten everything wrong, just run through the list. And this is a good argument that I would like for you to put in your back pocket and use for your persuadable friends who may be suffering from some tinge of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Think about all the things that those outlets that I just ran through have gotten wrong about Donald Trump. First of all, Russia collusion, a hundred percent a lie, all of it made up. They spent years telling you it was gonna bring down Trump. Was all made up. Remember the Steele dossier, the idea of the golden showers, the idea of what Trump did in Russia and all the compromising info that Russia had on Trump? The Steele dossier was a hundred percent made up.

Russia paying bounties on U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan does not appear to be true. Remember Trump in the wake of Charlottesville, they tried to tell you, he called neo-Nazis “very fine people.” That’s a hundred percent a lie if you go look at the transcript. How about when they tried to get you with the idea that Trump said you needed to either drink or inject bleach to fight covid. Not true.

The tear gas getting fired outside in Lafayette Park to clear off the protesters so Trump could walk out with a Bible for the photo-op. That’s not true. They told you that Hunter’s laptop was all disinformation, and they wouldn’t even allow the New York Post Twitter account to exist. That’s all been proven to actually be true. They told you that January 6th was an insurrection and an attempt to overthrow the government and that they had killed many different police officers.

All untrue. Ashli Babbitt was the only person who died there. And then, of course, they told you that Trump choked a Secret Service agent and tried to grab the steering wheel of his Secret Service vehicle. If you had heard all of that and it had all been proven to be untrue, all about Donald Trump, the question that I would ask you, maybe the media’s just competent and they just get everything wrong. But if almost all of that had come from anonymous sources, would you start asking whether those anonymous sources might be telling you the truth?

And let me just ask you this. And this is I want you to put in according to our back pocket, and I want you to deploy, in discussions with your friends, your family, some of whom might be reasonable, if the media just got all those things wrong, which they did, and I just ran through with you, how much did they get wrong that benefited Trump? If there wasn’t major bias at play, wouldn’t there occasionally be a story in the Washington Post or the New York Times or CNN or MSNBC that was a hundred percent wrong but made Donald Trump sound better?

That story hasn’t existed in seven years. Just think about it. There’s never been a story, “Hey, there was a little kid, and he was starting to have, you know, like, an asthma attack, and Trump saw him in the crowd, and he rushed his Secret Service agent over and they saved that little kid’s life. And if Donald Trump hadn’t been doing his rally and hadn’t pointed out that kid, he would have died.” And then it comes out that that story wasn’t true at all, but it was a positive story about Trump.

There hasn’t been any story at all Trump was out driving in his Beast vehicle and he noticed that there was a dog on the side of the road that had had puppies and the dog was in danger of getting hit by a car, and he stopped his motorcade and he said, let’s save those puppies and get that dog out of danger. And then it comes out that it’s not true. Those stories have never happened. And I would submit thousand that there are all sorts of super… Like, every time Joe Biden goes and gets a new ice cream flavor we hear about it.

“Oh, look at Joe Biden, man of the people! He goes and got a new ice cream flavor. What flavor did you get, Joe?” There’s all sorts of fluff stories out there. How, in seven years of covering Donald Trump with a fine-tooth comb have the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, and MSNBC never falsely reported something that was positive for Donald Trump? If they were just incompetent and they just got things wrong all the time, wouldn’t he this get something wrong in his favor?

Wouldn’t they be like, “Hey, you know, they raided Mar-a-Lago, and you know what they found? They found out that Donald Trump has been pen pals with a bunch of kids all over the country, and he’s been writing them daily, weekly, monthly, and this is just the most beautiful stories that you’ve ever seen. These were kids who otherwise would have never had any hope in life and they happened to write Donald Trump asking him to become a pen pal and he started doing it.”

And then it turned out not to be true, but it was a really positive story about Trump. Wouldn’t there be one? If there wasn’t bias in play wouldn’t there be one story that you could point to that made Trump look amazing that later ended up being wrong? Instead, every single story that we get is a negative one. So, I’m sorry if, after hearing that Donald Trump was getting prostitutes in Russia to give golden showers — don’t look it up, kids — all over a bed ’cause he didn’t like Barack Obama…

Then I’m skeptical that he took nuclear documents to Mar-a-Lago and they’ve been there for 18 months and the nation is in such danger because of it that for 18 months the government couldn’t get around to trying to recover them and then they suddenly stormed the gates of Mar-a-Lago and had to get ’em immediately. I’m sorry if I just don’t buy the Washington Post telling me that story.

Because they’ve been the boy who cried wolf for so long, and everything that they’ve gotten wrong has all been in favor of Donald Trump being an awful person. Nothing positive about Trump at all. I just ask you to take that to your friends. Say, yeah, you know, it’s indisputable they’ve gotten a lot wrong. Have they ever gotten anything wrong that benefited Trump? The answer is no. And if you’re incompetent on one side and not incompetent on the other, that’s called biased. And we know Democrats love to talk about bias because everything is systemic racism. We got systemic bias against Donald Trump. They just pretend that it didn’t happen.

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Recuse, Garland! We Can’t Stand for This Third World Dictator BS

12 Aug 2022

CLAY: We begin where we have been all week long with the latest on the Trump investigation, the Trump raid, the unprecedented — I believe, frankly, unconstitutional in many ways — persecution of Donald Trump that we are seeing by his former opponent in the 2020 election, Joe Biden, and his the Department of Justice. Now, I’m gonna walk you through everything, because I know the timeline here has gotten somewhat confusing. I’m gonna walk you through everything, and then I’m gonna tell you why it matters to such a large extent and where I believe we are headed.

So let’s start here. Yesterday, as we finished Thursday’s show, we were waiting on Merrick Garland to come out and address the media. He actually appeared 40 minutes late for his own press conference. It was only a couple of minutes. There was not very much information that was provided. But I found the most significant aspect of that press conference to be — for the first time — Merrick Garland admitting that he had personally directed the warrants to be filed with the South Florida judge. Listen to Merrick Garland make that statement.

CLAY: All right. Let’s go ahead and cut it off there because we know that he’s gonna continue to say nothing of any substance there, and we continue to enforce upon you and encourage: Don’t do anything dumb. The FBI is looking for opportunities right now to make you look like a January 6th insurrectionist. And we’ve already seen some of this potentially occurring in Cincinnati. Don’t act out violently, period. Okay. Let’s start here. So Merrick Garland said he personally approved this raid. What does that mean, and why not important? I’m gonna tell you.

Let me also update you first with this timeline. So this is significant and I don’t believe it’s being discussed enough. Trump and his lawyers had been in discussions with the National Archives about alleged presidential documents for months. In fact, in June, representatives of the National Archives and the government came to Mar-a-Lago to see what documents Donald Trump had in his possession there. While they were there, Trump came down, said hi, and said, “Let me do whatever I can,” effectively, “to help you in this process.”

That was in June. There had been a very easygoing, conciliatory relationship between anyone in the government and Trump over these documents. Then we hear nothing for months. In fact, back in June they said, “Hey, can you padlock this door more? Can you provide greater security?” They did it at Mar-a-Lago. That was in June. Then we hear absolutely nothing, got a Trump people — and in August, we have all of these FBI agents on Monday storm the gates of Mar-a-Lago and spend nine hours inside of Mar-a-Lago.

They sent Trump’s attorneys outside to wait in the parking lot, outdoors. They insisted that they had complete run of the place to examine any and everything there, including going through Melania Trump’s clothes, according to reports. Nine hours that they spent. This is an unprecedented raid. Never in United States history has a situation like this occurred. Now there is a discussion — and maybe it’s going to happen during the course of today’s show, in which case we will break it down for you — over whether some of the details surrounding this warrant are going to be released.

Well, Merrick Garland said yesterday, “We’re fine with releasing some of these details.” The problem is that some of them will probably be crossed out and censored as a part of arguing that they still impact national security, but he said the government had no issue with doing that. Late last night, President Trump said that he was fine with this issue. Oh, by the way, Merrick Garland said they would have no comments whatsoever about this investigation into Donald Trump and the raid that he ordered that is off the charts, unprecedented legally.

Well, then the Washington Post within a couple of hours came out with a story saying that some of the documents there had to do with nuclear weapons and, as a result, they had to act with alacrity. Now, what’s interesting about that is the warrant was obtained on Friday. They didn’t go in until Monday. The Washington Post has been wrong. It cited two anonymous sources in this nuclear weapons report. They’ve been wrong about everything with Trump for basically seven years, especially when anonymous sources are involved, and so I am incredibly skeptical of the likelihood that this story is true.

Well, early this morning Trump fired back on TRUTH Social and said:

Okay. So that was Trump on TRUTH Social. That is basically the background of where we are right now. It’s possible that we will get more information about these warrants during the course of today’s show, and of course I will update you instantaneously if that information comes down, so you can always stay tuned to us to get those updates. That’s the background, and it’s rather complicated. But let me tell you now where we’re going and why this is so significant. And I want to start right here.

Merrick Garland said yesterday that he personally approved the raid that happened at Donald Trump’s residence. Why is that significant? I want you to think about this for a minute with me. In addition to the fact that we have never seen a raid like this on a former president, we are in banana republic, Third World country-level investigatory behavior right now because Merrick Garland is the top Justice Department official for Joe Biden.

The man who ran against Donald Trump in 2020 and at least thinks that he’s going to run against him in 2024. We’ve never seen this in our nation’s entire history. Do you trust the top competitor of Donald Trump to be investigating Donald Trump to determine whether or not he broke the law? Look. The idea that Merrick Garland is not recusing himself from this investigation and this entire process is a stain on our nation’s history.

And the fact that that I may be the only person pointing this out to you in all of media should have you questioning, “Wait a minute. Why in the world are we allowing the number one top because one of the official of Joe Biden to investigate his top political opponent?” Look, as lawyers, it’s not only impropriety that leads to recusal. It’s the appearance of impropriety. How in the world can anyone believe that Merrick Garland…?

Especially given the FBI’s already history with Donald Trump and the Department of Justice’s history with Donald Trump, how can anyone believe that he can conduct an impartial investigation of his employer’s — ’cause Joe Biden’s his employer, of his employer’s –top rival for the presidency? The fact that Merrick Garland is in any way involved — and he said yesterday, “I personally approved this warrant.” How is he allowed to lead an investigation into the top political rival of his boss?

This is next-level banana republic crazy. How in the world is no one else other than me almost in all the media saying, “Merrick Garland, regardless of what you think, Democrat, Republican, independent, he can’t conduct this investigation. He is too biased!” His entire job status depends on Joe Biden being president. If he wants to remain attorney general going into a next term, the only way he gets that job is if Joe Biden wins. The only way he continues to have the power and influence and authority that he wields right now is if Joe Biden takes down Donald Trump.

And we’re going to allow him — with a clear incentive structure on his own job predicated on Trump going down — to conduct this investigation? And that doesn’t even consider potentially his own motivations personally, which are, he may well have been radicalized by the fact that he didn’t get to sit on the Supreme Court, which was his lifelong dream, and then Donald Trump won the presidency and Merrick Garland’s nomination by Barack Obama was never acted upon.

Do you trust him to be an impartial observer of justice when his number one brass ring, the thing that he had spent his entire career striving for was to be on the Supreme Court and he didn’t get it? So, as a backup plan, he gets to be attorney general, and you think he’s gonna be fair to Republicans and to Donald Trump in investigations? We’ve never seen anything like this. That’s why the independent counsel exists. Ken Starr investigated Bill Clinton.

Whether or not you agree with it — and I understand why Trump was mad about it — Trump’s attorney general, Jeff Sessions, immediately recused himself from Russia because he said, “I can’t conduct an impartial investigation.” That’s how we got the Mueller report. That’s how we got the Robert Mueller investigation. This has been commonplace for years. The idea that the Justice Department, when it is directly involved through the presidency, in the investigations that it is undertaking, cannot conduct an impartial investigation.

So how in the world is every Republican not beating the drum that Merrick Garland has to recuse himself here? How in the world does anyone with a functional brain who has a legal background — and I’d like to put myself in that category — not also recognizing this clear-and-present conflict which demands recusal from Merrick Garland, who is a biased, without precedent already — this investigation itself to raid a former president is unheard of.

But how in the world are we letting him personally approve any decisions made associated with this investigation? These are big questions that aren’t being asked and isn’t being discussed about anyone out there. And you should be asking yourself, “Why is that? Why are Republicans like Mitch McConnell leading the Senate not coming out and saying, ‘Hey, you know what?

“’Let’s go ahead and ask Merrick Garland at a minimum to recuse himself.’” Why is this not one of the top arguments right now in all of America? Why are you just hearing it right now from me? It’s crazy! It’s banana republic. It’s Third World dictator-level BS. We shouldn’t be standing for it. I’m gonna continue to break down more, tell you more significant details about this investigation, why it matters.

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Clay Discusses New CDC Guidelines, Novak Djokovic

12 Aug 2022

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C&B 24/7: Clay & Buck’s Show Prep

12 Aug 2022

  • Wall Street Journal: FBI Recovered Eleven Sets of Classified Documents in Trump Search, Inventory Shows. Trump allies claim the former president declassified the documents recovered from Mar-a-Lago
  • Washington Post: FBI searched Trump’s home to look for nuclear documents and other items, sources say. The former president said on social media that he won’t oppose a Justice Dept. request to unseal the search warrant
  • American Greatness: FBI Won’t Let Facts Get In the Way of a Good Story – Julie Kelly
  • FOXNews: Donald Trump fires back at AG Merrick Garland over FBI’s Mar-a-Lago raid: ‘Release the documents now!’
  • Breitbart: Blue State Blues: Merrick Garland, from Victim to Bully
  • Breitbart: Donald Trump Mocks Claim He Had Classified Documents on Nuclear Weapons at Mar-a-Lago
  • Breitbart: Reminder: Joe Biden Senate Papers Still Hidden from Public
  • New York Post: Woke elites control the institutions meant to serve us

  • PJ Media: POLL: Mar-a-Lago Raid Backfires Spectacularly on Democrats
  • Daily Wire: Voters Split On Mar-A-Lago FBI Raid; Trump Gains 2024 Support: Survey
  • HotAir: Wiped, with a cloth: Are mentions of Hillary Clinton now verboten on Twitter?
  • New York Post: Hunter Biden laptop repairman John Paul Mac Isaac says FBI agent threatened him to hush up
  • New York Post: Mulvaney: Someone ‘very close’ to Trump told FBI about Mar-a-Lago docs

  • FOXNews: DeSantis’ new Gadsden flag Florida license plate ‘symbolizes a dangerous far-right extremist ideology:’ NPR
  • HotAir: Ron DeSantis: the anti-Biden on woke Academia?
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  • JustTheNews: CDC drops quarantine for students exposed to COVID-positive people
  • HotAir: Denmark outlaws the COVID vaccines for children
  • PJ Media: Such Hubris: You Won’t Believe What Fauci Thinks He Symbolizes

  • New York Post: Whole Foods founder John Mackey: Liberals are forcing companies to back their political agenda
  • New York Post: Biden’s inflation perversion, AP’s racial profiling and more
  • FOXNews: Support for Manchin-Schumer spending bill could be final blow for 5 most vulnerable House Democrats
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  • New York Post: More buses with migrants sent from Texas arrive in NYC
  • New York Post: Migrants use charity cash to flee NYC when they can’t get into shelter
  • Daily Wire: More Than 70% Of Americans Believe Kids Will Be Poorer Than Their Parents
  • FOXNews: NY Times staffer wanted to check with Schumer before running Sen. Tim Scott op-ed, Bari Weiss says. Weiss spilled more drama on the liberal bias within the New York Times during her podcast Wednesday

  • UK Daily Mail: NYC could become the first American city to implement a $23 congestion charge fee for motorists entering its busiest areas from next year
  • UK Daily Mail: New York City’s most prolific criminal! Serial thief with 167 arrests appears in court after he was caught stealing 48 items worth $430 from Rite Aid – and is denied bail for the first time
  • JustTheNews: Newsom pushes desalination, rain capture, cutting red tape, as California dries out
  • ZeroHedge: UK To Reverse “Accidental” Ban On Edible Insect Farming

  • Breitbart: Disgraced Tavistock Trans Kids Clinic Faces Lawsuits From 1,000 Families
  • Daily Wire: Left-Wing Org Combines K-12 Radical Gender Theory With Anti-Cop, Anti-Capitalist Rhetoric
  • UK Daily Mail: Putin’s biggest fan Steven Seagal calls himself a ‘diplomat’ as he appears on Russian state media and defends visit to Donbas prison where Ukrainian POWs were burned alive

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    Clay on Fox: Garland Admitted He’s Investigating His Boss’ Chief Rival

    11 Aug 2022

    Clay jumped on Fox with Martha MacCallum and Joe Concha to react to AG Merrick Garland’s statement on the Mar-a-Lago raid and his biggest takeaway from the (very little) Garland had to say.

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    24/7 VIP Video: Did the Raid Just Unite the GOP Behind Trump in ’24?

    11 Aug 2022

    The Biden Regime might have just made Donald Trump stronger than ever before.  C&B speculate on whether the raid on Mar-a-Lago could clear the field of any potential primary challenges to Trump in 2024.

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    Garland Ices Out Clay and Buck, Delays Press Conference

    11 Aug 2022

    CLAY: We are still waiting for Merrick Garland’s press conference, which was initially scheduled for 2:30 Eastern. Coming up on 20 minutes late for that. It’s possible that we’re not going to get any of that for you, in which case we’d encourage to you keep hanging on for Sean Hannity coming up next on many of these same stations, as we wait to see what, if any, information of any consequence Merrick Garland is going to give us. We think that it’ll be mostly bland. Will he take any questions? I guess the answer would be, no. Mostly bland, blaming people for being angry about this raid. But maybe we’ll actually get some form of news.

    BUCK: I think you’re gonna get boilerplate about how, “We do our job without fear or favor, and the Justice Department operates without political consideration,” the usual smarmy, Merrick Garland razzle-dazzle, you know, the usual two-step. I think that’s what you’re gonna see. But they know that this whole, “Oh, yeah, they just raided a president’s home on Monday,” that’s not gonna fly. You don’t just do that and then act like it’s business as usual.

    Really…. Miranda gave us some really interesting context, Miranda Devine just now, about how they went when it’s so low-key. You know, in terms of time of the year, Mar-a-Lago is basically shut down now, Trump is up at Bedminster where we were hanging out a couple weeks ago. And so did they really think that they could sneak this one under the radar? Was that really the plan?

    CLAY: That’s what we started talking about yesterday, Buck, because, remember, Trump was the one who broke the news that this raid has happened.

    BUCK: But there’s basically nobody there. I was thinking… I forgot. Mar-a-Lago, Clay, usually has members everywhere, you know, some of our buddies are hanging out down there. I mean, last time I was there I was high-fiving Mike Lindell. Like, you see people, right? Nobody was there this time.

    CLAY: Yeah. And the fact that they made the Trump attorney stand out — reportedly, had to stand out — in the parking lot as this nine-hour-plus raid was going on, I just… I feel like somehow, some way, the bureaucracy overrated how quiet this was gonna be, or in some way didn’t recognize how significant what they were undertaking was. And that’s why the most interesting part of this, to me, could be if Merrick Garland walls himself off and said, “I’m not…

    “I wasn’t involved in the decision. The FBI made the choice, that they had evidence that they needed to procure.” That would be interesting because it would suggest that this was such a mess, such a mushroom cloud that people are trying to start to scurry to avoid being caught up in this explosion. I don’t know that we’ll get that. And again, I find it hard to believe that Joe Biden didn’t know, that Merrick Garland didn’t know. Certainly, we know Christopher Wray had to know.

    BUCK: So then who made the decision? Are we gonna believe that a relatively low-level, like head of the Palm Beach FBI? I guess would be in West Palm, wherever it is, field office, Palm Beach County FBI?

    CLAY: Yeah.

    BUCK: No way.

    CLAY: It seems highly unlikely that somebody that far down the food chain could decide to do this. Again, we’ve talked about this. You would have to have high-level contact with the Secret Service in order for this raid to take place.

    BUCK: Yeah, and that’s not even —

    CLAY: I can’t imagine incidents occurring at the highest possible level.

    BUCK: And that’s not even reassuring in its own way because, as I said, this is so politically volatile for the whole country, that it should be… You should have the attorney general looking at this and saying, “Guys, if we’re going in there, there has to be an ironclad reason. It has to be 100% by the book and it has to be explainable to the American people.”

    CLAY: It can’t just be, “We’re gonna try to get Donald Trump over classified documents that are still in boxes inside of Mar-a-Lago,” because, again, there’s no way that the intent, if it’s random boxes… I mean, I used as an example if you’ve ever moved, how often does it take forever to even know where anything is packed? Trump was not involved in packing the boxes that were packed up to leave the White House.

    BUCK: Yeah, and if anything, they should just have a different process than for the exit of a former president to make sure that there’s somebody body to identify them. I’m sure they’ve already looked over this stuff. You know, about this not something that has any… The boxes of possibly classified documents for obvious reasons have no criminal implications for Donald Trump himself, as a matter of holding and holding national defense information in violation of the Espionage Act. If that’s their game here — and, Clay, I don’t know, maybe it is. If that’s their game here, the DOJ’s credibility’s in for a world of hurt beyond what we’ve already seen. People are gonna say, “You just can’t trust these clowns at all with anything.”

    CLAY: And think about how far we would have fallen down the criminality floodplain here. We would have gone from, “This guy had direct interaction with Vladimir Putin, who stage a default coup to allow himself to be elected president,” to, “Well, some of the boxes that had random paraphernalia from inside of the White House were classified and shouldn’t have been still locked up in a closet at Mar-a-Lago.” It’s a pretty big difference in criminality.

    BUCK: The government, as a matter of course — and I know this firsthand from being a classification originator — massively overclassifies tons of stuff. They are constantly marking things in a way that goes way beyond whether there’s actually any sensitivity, you know, ’cause a lot of it becomes a judgment call. “Does this create sensitive issues for government relations? Classified!” You know, they’ll mark that “confidential” or they’ll mark that “secret.”

    Well, what does that even mean, right? Obviously, super sensitive information about the capabilities of, like, the F-22 Raptor? Yeah, that’s classified; so, we don’t want our enemies to know what our planes could do, for example. But, you know, Trump sitting down and having a meeting with a foreign head of state where everyone knows what was said in the room or where everyone took photos together, and there is some handwritten note from Trump about it? They might say that’s classified, but that’s over-classification, is the point. So that happens all the time.

    CLAY: Not only that, remember we had Kash Patel on in May.

    BUCK: Yeah, and he’s a classification authority. Trump himself. Not to interrupt.

    CLAY: Right. So, yeah, there’s the possibility, the defense, one, could be that the warrant’s not valid because of judge-related issues because potentially the warrant was not specific enough; the warrant shouldn’t have been granted, as we’ve seen happened in Russia collusion. But also, there’s a pretty strong defense here that Trump didn’t know about the documents that were involved and also that some of these may have already been declassified.

    That’s what Kash Patel came on and told us is a large extent of the issue. The president has the ability to declassify documents. Sometimes there’s a conflict over whether that occurred or not. This is just a really messy case in general to be getting the amount of attention that it’s getting. And evidently, now we’re gonna have Kash Patel on, by the way, on Monday. Buck, you’re gonna be out tomorrow. And it looks like Attorney General Merrick Garland is going to be at least a half hour late now to his own press conference, and we’re not gonna get to talk about what he says.

    BUCK: He’s gonna ice I tell you, out here? I know he knows.

    CLAY: You think they were waiting?

    BUCK: “Clay and Buck’s gotta get off air because Merrick is not gonna do well if Clay and Buck are on.”

    CLAY: “Those guys are too powerful. We can’t allow them to immediately handle what we say and dissect everything, and so we’re gonna wait ’til right after they go off the air.” So, I’ll be talking about it tomorrow. Buck, you’re gonna be out on Friday; you’ll be back Monday.

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    TikTok Vet Goes Viral with Post About Dog Breeds She Wouldn’t Own

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    BUCK: TikTok veterinarian goes viral with a list of dog breeds she wouldn’t own. Now, let’s just say this. Generally, I think that you’re allowed to say whatever you want about opinion stuff or taste issues, right? So, if I say that chocolate ice cream is the best ice cream and someone else for whatever reason is a barbarian who really likes strawberry ice cream.

    This is always a debate in my household, Clay. You know, people are entitled to their opinions. Even though on Twitter, as you and I both know, if you say I like vanilla, people will pile on and say, “Why? You know, why did your parents make so many mistakes in raising you?” You know what I’m talking about with this stuff.

    CLAY: I noticed early on in Twitter, I went on and said, which to me is an indisputable truth, the best cobbler. I think I said cobbler is really good, you know, like — and I’m a big fan of blackberry cobbler in particular. And immediately people were outraged that I could really like cobbler. And this was one of the first — like, maybe the first — year that I had been on Twitter. And so, you learn about social media is, whatever you say you like, you almost immediately get attacked. It doesn’t matter what it is. Like, the least offensive thing that you could say on Twitter, like a fun debate topic — you know, like there’s obviously controversial topics. What is the least controversial thing that you could say on Twitter?

    BUCK: I mean, something about food you like or cheeseburgers are better than hot dogs —

    CLAY: But it was… Like, when you say even, like, “I like hot dogs,” somebody’s gonna be like, “What are, are you crazy? Hot dogs are garbage,” right?

    BUCK: Are you kidding me? You’ll — I got dragged for days for pointing out that milk in your coffee is basically better than all these oat juices and things.

    CLAY: Oh, yeah, yeah, right.

    BUCK: People lost their minds for days and days. Sorry, there’s so many options. Drink whatever you want. I don’t care. But, anyway, there’s a lot of these things that we could get into. And it is true. You could say on social media today, you or I or anyone listening could say, “Wow, it’s a nice day,” and all of a sudden, some account from like WeatherTruth.com or something is gonna be like, “Why are you such an idiot. It’s not good weather. It’s actually causing a lot of power grid issues.”

    CLAY: Yeah, or, “Better enjoy it now ’cause in 10 years we’re all gonna be dead ’cause of climate change.” Doesn’t matter. Yeah.

    BUCK: You can’t say anything, and the worst thing is if you ask — I wish that I could crowdsource — on this show we can and brilliant people call in with tremendous expertise. But on social media, if you ask an honest question like, hey, what’s the best way for me to regrout the tile in my bathroom? You’ll get 50 responses, people saying, oh, you’re such an idiot who’s never done anything in his life. Okay.

    But so, I bring this up because people — and this audience included, me included, although it’s a family dog, technically, people love their dogs. You mess with their dog and you’re in a world of hurt. And I don’t even just mean obviously like actually being mean to the dog or something. I just mean you talk smack about their dog breed. If you want to see a website crash from the traffic that will happen, start a fight between pro-pit bull owners and anti-pit bull owners, just as an example. By the way, I’m not starting that fight right now. I’m just saying, it is something that will get people very fired up on both sides. This veterinarian on TikTok —

    CLAY: Wit. Wit is her name. She’s kind of cute.

    BUCK: Hey. She did a little video — and I’m gonna say this right now. She wasn’t… She had no idea what she was stepping into. She did the five dog breeds she wouldn’t own as a veterinarian.

    @dr.terrellpetvet #5thingschallenge #veterinarian #dogs #fypシ ♬ original sound – Whit

    DR. TERRELL: Number five, Chinese Crested. I mean, the dogs and stuff are fine. I don’t like hairless animals. They’re zitty (sic), they’re kind of greasy. Same with cats. Number four, these ankle biters. Nope. Not — not my cup of tea. Three. Not just the pug but just any brachycephalic breeds. I mean, some of them are so cute, they can’t breathe, clearly cannot breathe. They snore. I’ve already got a husband that snores. I don’t need anything else. Coming in at number two. The GSD. This also applies to Belgian Malinois —

    BUCK: Clay’s favorite dog.

    DR. TERRELL: — and coming in at one, piss everyone off, is the goldendoodle.

    BUCK: Okay. So she’s trying to have fun. Clay, this went, like, mega-viral —

    CLAY: People are furious at her.

    BUCK: — people are completely… Just to be clear, there is no community for the Chinese crested out there, okay? I’ve never even seen one. Do you know…? Oh, my gosh. New York City Ali over here says, “I’ve never even seen a Chinese Crested.” That’s a thing that people see?

    CLAY: I have no idea what kind of dog that is.

    BUCK: To me, that’s like a space alien. Like, that doesn’t even really count. But apparently Ali says they exist. They’re hairless in part which is what freaks everybody out. She mentioned Chihuahuas. And I will say our friend Tomi Lahren has a Chihuahua. You go after peoples Chihuahuas it’s like you’re calling their baby ugly. She went after bulldogs and said they snore and can’t breathe, which I will say bulldogs snoring is adorable, okay? The bulldog owners of America —

    CLAY: They do have, though, a breathing issue, right?

    BUCK: Clay. Clay. Come on.

    CLAY: My understanding.

    BUCK: I have breathing issues, all right? I’ve got a deviated septum. I’m glad that nobody abandoned me. And then she mentioned German Shepherds and Malinois. Now, that one, I’m gonna say — and maybe I’m stepping into here a little bit — you have to know what you’re doing with those dogs. Those are not like get them and figure it out how to be a dog owner.

    CLAY: I got bit by a German Shepherd when I was a kid, badly.

    BUCK: Really?

    CLAY: You know, the scar on my face… Yeah, when I was 5 years old, I had chicken pox. I was at my friend Neil’s house. He also had chicken pox. Anybody out there who’s around my age or older will remember, you know, we had chicken pox parties. We were the opposite of covid, right? When you got chicken pox, they wanted you to get it at a young age; so, everybody got chicken pox around the same age. I believe I was in first grade. Yeah, I was in first grade, went out to pet his dog, Casper, the German Shepherd. Casper, leapt up and bit me and ripped my face.

    BUCK: No.

    CLAY: You could see the cheekbone.

    BUCK. Oh, my God. You’re lucky didn’t hit your eye.

    CLAY: Yeah, I know, and also my throat. My lip was ripped open, I had a hole in my cheek. So, I was 6, and I had over 50 stitches —

    BUCK: My gosh.

    CLAY: — from this German Shepherd bite. So, I’m not a big German Shepherd guy.

    BUCK: They’re working dogs. The same thing with the Malinois. The Malinois is like — is like a lean, mean German Shepherd in terms of its speed and they’re great for a lot of our military and law enforcement audience love their Malinois, love their shepherds, ’cause they’re amazing in those roles and if you know how to handle them. But, you know, a Chihuahua is different from a Malinois, right?

    CLAY: And all these dogs have different personalities inside of the breed itself, right?

    BUCK: Of course. But a Chihuahua is not gonna go flying through an open window at top speed and take down a 180-pound man like it’s nothing. If a Chihuahua did that, it would be remarkable to see. Be kind of like that scene in There’s Something About Mary with the little dog, but if you haven’t seen it, you can’t make that movie anymore. But the one that I think really, I’m gonna tell you this right now, my fiancee’s a doodle person.

    CLAY: Doodles are wildly popular.

    BUCK: I have experience with doodle people all over the country. Doodle people are like the vegans of the canine owner world in that they think they have figured out… They’re like, “They don’t shed, they’re hypoallergenic, they’re super smart.” They’re like, they have figured out the secret to the top of the canine ownership pyramid here. You mess with people’s doodles; they freak out at you.

    CLAY: How much do these doodles cost too?

    BUCK: I think it… I mean, doodles are probably — it depends where in the country — a couple of grand. I mean, Frenchies, which goes under the brachycephalic dog. You know, brachycephaly which is what the squash-face dogs are, Frenchies run anywhere from two or three grand up to 15 grand.

    CLAY: $15,000.

    BUCK: Yes. A blue Frenchie in a city, if you’re going through a breeder, will cost you. That’s why there are armed robbers who steal people’s Frenchies.

    CLAY: There are stories about people getting them stolen.

    BUCK: Apparently the snoring doesn’t hurt the market value very much. Just saying that for the bulldog owners out there.

    CLAY: So, what has happened to this TikTok vet? Like, she’s everywhere.

    BUCK: I mean, she’s all over. You’ve got the story up at OutKick. I think she’s more famous than she ever intended to be. Look. Ever needs to calm down. Lady’s allowed to have her opinions. I just think it’s kind of funny because there are some things… I will say this, Clay, it’s a little bit like… I’m sure there are people in the sports world where, if you really trash somebody’s team, you’re like, “That team sucks, their coaching is awful,” they take it personally, right? They’re like hold on a second. Like, I actually really think that team is awesome and inspiring. You go after people’s dogs — not their individual dog, the dog breed — and this is certainly true of pit bull owners and, you know, you mess with the bull, you get the horn, man.

    CLAY: I can’t believe she didn’t put pitbull on the list.

    BUCK: I was surprised by that, too, given the ones that she went after here. But there are the people that say, best family dog you could ever have, and then there are people who say, all the fatal attacks basically nationwide involve pit bulls. So, you get this huge debate that breaks down. Like, when I lived in D.C., I lived in an apartment building there, there was a whole list of banned breeds. So, this does actually become an issue, yeah.

    CLAY: — in your building?

    BUCK: There are some cities that I think have even considered banning certain breeds citywide. I don’t think that’s really gone into effect yet. But, yeah, man, usually it’s a weight issue. So, there’s a little bit of body shaming of the canines that goes on. Because they don’t want big dogs.

    CLAY: My mom just texted me: Three facial surgeries to recover from that when I was 6 years old.

    BUCK: Oh, my gosh.

    CLAY: I mean, think about 50 stitches for a 6-year-old. 50 stitches for an adult is a big wound. But for a 6-year-old, it was like half my face, eye and the neck.

    BUCK: Man. Send us your cute pup photos at TheClayAndBuckShow@gmail.com. We got all the Sexton dogs posted. We are gonna do Cute Cat Tuesday at some point for all the cats. She took a little shot, the vet, at cats. I’m just gonna say it.

    CLAY: We’ve got two cats and I’m not in favor of the fact that we have two cats. In fact, they really kind of drive me insane. I’m at least favorite in the house of the cats and the cats are the least favorite of mine.

    BUCK: What would happen if you came home and you told Mrs. Travis, you told Laura, you know, I just think we could really benefit from, like, a pet porcupine or maybe a raccoon? Like is any of that in the mix or definitely not?

    CLAY: I think that we’re in the process of getting a house built, and the cats are gonna be excluded from many parts of the new house. They have wrecked substantial portions of the house.

    BUCK: Also, let us know your thoughts at Clay and Buck, sign up, please, as subscribers for our VIP. Send us your dog photos. But also, if you want to weigh in on this — this list of five dog breeds that got the rough stuff here from this vet — weigh in. Go to ClayAndBuck.com.

    And I’m telling you, man, you mess with people’s dogs, you’ve never seen anything like it.

    CLAY: We’ve deluged, evidently, by photos of animals as a result. So, there you go.

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    Miranda Devine Brings Us Details on the Mar-a-Lago Raid

    11 Aug 2022

    BUCK: We are moments away from the attorney general for the Biden administration, Merrick Garland, making a statement here about the Mar-a-Lago raid and perhaps more than that. We’re also joined by Miranda Devine right now from the New York Post, who has been breaking news on this all week. Miranda, as always, we appreciate you making time for us.

    DEVINE: Pleasure, Clay and Buck. Always love to be with you.

    BUCK: So, we may have to jump right into this and we’ll have you react to it, Miranda —

    DEVINE: Yes.

    BUCK: — as Merrick Garland’s about to speak. What are your expectations, what are you gonna say, and what is your focus right now on what we need to find out?

    DEVINE: Well, look. I’m glad that Merrick Garland is finally breaking his silence on this raid. He really should have done it much earlier. And I hope that what he does is reassure the American people that this is not a political hit on the former president, that he needs to explain the raid and basically tell us what the predicate was, you know? We know from, you know, people who have told us that the warrant solely dwelled on the Presidential Records Act and any classified information that might have been contained in those boxes that were packed up on behalf of Donald Trump from the White House and now or then were taken and put in the storage room at Mar-a-Lago when they were under lock and key.

    And that’s what the warrant said. So, now we want Merrick Garland to say that that is all that the FBI was looking for. And he needs to be really clear about that, because if at some point in the future the FBI says, oh, we didn’t find anything to do with the Presidential Records Act, but we did find this piece of information relating to January 6th or some other piece of information relating to one or the other, six or seven investigations, supposedly, that people are trying to pin on Donald Trump, then that would show that the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago just for a fishing expedition.

    And it would I guess concern the suspicions of people who believe that they went looking for a crime. You know, they just…were they going to pin something on Donald Trump come what may because they don’t want him to run in 2024. That’s what it looks like, and the reason that people don’t trust the FBI is because of the history of their involvement and the corruption in the FBI to do with the Russia collusion hoax. Their, you know, knowing that the Steele dossier was bogus and then predicating the investigation on the leaked text messages between FBI people talking in, malicious and derogatory terms about President Trump and how they were gonna stop him.

    You know, James Comey and his deputy, McCabe, leaking confidential information and so on. So, the FBI has dirty hands when it comes to Donald Trump. And that’s why Merrick Garland has to ensure, as does Christopher Wray, the FBI director, that they are very detailed in their explanation about why they went to this unprecedented extent of raiding a former president’s home.

    CLAY: Miranda, what do you think about this sudden acceleration, it feels? Because in June there were reports that they were there, Trump came by, they shook hands, there was a very sort of conciliatory rapprochement that might have been going on between the two, and then we got to a warrant, a nine-hour investigation and your reporting at the New York Post that they’re going through Melania Trump’s closet as well. What happened? What was the acceleration here? What was the lit match that took this in June from something where they’re interacting fairly — fairly, it seems, reasonably — to suddenly an unexpected raid?

    DEVINE: Well, there’s two sides to the story. Trump side says that they were cooperating fully with the FBI over these, you know, presidential records. And can I say that he’s not the only president who’s taken material documents and so on from the White House, mementos and things and have had to have been asked to give it back, Barack Obama being one. So, I think that, you know, the idea that it’s just about mishandled documents is a little hard to believe. But I think that the lawyers, the Trump lawyers say that they’ve been cooperating with the FBI.

    And as you say, at the end of May, a whole bunch of FBI agents came to Mar-a-Lago, they spent hours inside that locked storage room going through these 15 boxes of material. And they were overseen by Trump’s lawyers. And at some point, we’re hearing from leaks from the Department of Justice that those talks broke down. So, that’s not what I’ve heard from Trump side but, you know, obviously something happened to precipitate this. And so, then we had the raid on Monday, and, you know, there’s a leak from inside the Department of Justice which claims that they wanted to do it in a low-key way.

    So, they waited until Donald Trump wasn’t there because the Trump family has decamped to Bedminster, New Jersey, to his golf resort there for the summer and in fact Mar-a-Lago’s closed down; there’s just a skeleton staff there, rooms are locked and had to be unlocked by the few employees left for the FBI. And the FBI had lunch as they told the lawyers who sort of rushed there after the fact that we can go anywhere we want.

    This warrant, which they waved in front of them and, first of all, would not show to one of Trump’s lawyers, told them that they could go wherever they wanted in his vast complex. And they seemed to confine themselves to the private quarters of the Trumps, going into every room there, going through closets, including Melania Trump’s I assume voluminous walk-in wardrobe.

    And also, they spent several hours, I’m told, in a separate part of the building in the private office of Donald Trump, and they went through everything there and also they had brought along a safe cracker to open the safe. It’s a hotel-style safe, I’m told. Eric Trump has said that there was nothing in the safe. I haven’t heard that, but I take his word for it. And then the other place they went, of course, was that locked basement storage room with the 15 boxes from the White House which they’d already had seen access to. They, I’m told, did take those boxes away, but there were, you know, at least 30, I’m told, you know, FBI agents there in plainclothes, and they spent over nine hours combing through absolutely everything.

    BUCK: Miranda Devine of the New York Post. Miranda, always great work on this. Thank you so much for being with us.

    DEVINE: Pleasure.

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    Hunter Biden Boarding Air Force One Is a Middle Finger to the American People

    11 Aug 2022

    CLAY: During the break, Buck, I was laughing even more thinking about I don’t really know that very many people have thought through the absurdity of what a president being put in prison would look like, given the fact that their Secret Service detail would have to be with them as well. This sounds like a really ridiculous sitcom pitch. Like, I can see it. So, the president goes to prison but he has his security detail that goes with him as well. It is all kind of laughably absurd.

    And speaking of prison, I just want to talk about the Hunter Biden optics for a moment, okay? We know the FBI has had the Hunter Biden laptop for multiple years now. We know — and we’re gonna talk with Miranda Devine in the third hour of this program, New York Post writer who broke much of the laptop story and also wrote Laptop from Hell, all about the Hunter Biden laptop. There are bevies of felonies that are easy to be applied and charged to Hunter Biden.

    Buck, two days after the FBI had a raid on Mar-a-Lago and President Trump’s private residence, had agents walking through Melania Trump’s private closet, looking at her dresses, underwear drawers. I mean, this is weird stuff, right? Hunter Biden right now, to my understanding, lives like he has some boy toy who’s paying for him to live in a Malibu mansion out in California, some Hollywood lawyer is like a big fan of Hunter Biden and so is paying for him to continue to live there.

    He flew, evidently, all the way across the country to Washington, D.C., so that he could board Air Force One with his dad to fly to South Carolina. And it just feels like such a slap in the face to the American public and also a middle finger if you saw that footage of Biden walking up the ramp — thankfully he didn’t fall this time — to Air Force One. Hunter was there alongside of him as they entered Air Force One.

    That means Hunter had to fly from his usual home in California to Washington, D.C., just so we could have the photo-op of the two of them walking on to Air Force One so they could go down to South Carolina. And I just want you to think about this. Wherever you live, maybe you go on vacation with your parents or your family. How often would you travel to meet them so that you could fly together to a different destination?

    It just feels like such a middle finger to the American public for Hunter Biden to travel to Washington, D.C., so that he could travel with his dad to South Carolina, just so basically, we can see him get on Air Force One and stick that middle finger in the American face but also the FBI’s face, the Department of Justice, ‘Hey, I’m Hunter Biden! I committed so many felonies, even I can’t keep up with them — all on video, all clear as day — and my dad is so powerful, you’re not gonna do anything to me. We can raid the former president’s private home two days beforehand and I’m just gonna come into town, gallivant up the stairs to get on Air Force One.” Buck, it’s such a… It really pisses me off.

    BUCK: You see Paul Pelosi Jr. traveled with Nancy Pelosi to Taiwan?

    CLAY: Of course, he did.

    BUCK: Of course. Now, look. She says, is that within the rules? It’s within the rules. But given the Pelosi and Biden and name a really powerful Democrat tendency to use government resources for the enrichment of their families, the enjoyment of their families. And then Christopher Wray also just take a private jet up to the Adirondacks. A lot of people are surprised to find out —

    CLAY: — talking about this —

    BUCK: — the attorney general, private jet, folks, taxpayer-funded, private jets meant for official travel. But I can tell you, I had friends in the federal government who — not speaking personally here — were experts in the boondoggle. There are so many ways that you can use those resources, as long as you have a pretext for why I have to go, “Oh, yes, I must give a briefing in the South of France next week.” You know, this is what ends up happening.

    CLAY: Roll up the private jet.

    BUCK: So, the people that are telling you, “Tighten up your belt. So what if eggs are a hundred percent more than they were a year ago; so what if inflation’s 8.5%, you know, it’s fine. Don’t worry about it. Biden’s doing a great job.” They get to fly around private courtesy of the taxpayers. Not even on their own dime.

    CLAY: You don’t have kids yet. But I just — they are going to South Carolina for a family vacation. And he lives in California. It’s not like he lives in Washington, D.C. So, he traveled to Washington, D.C., just to board Air Force One to fly to South Carolina and in many ways just for that photo-op. If you were advising the Biden family two days after the Trump raid, wouldn’t you have been like, hey, maybe Hunter can meet us in South Carolina? Maybe he doesn’t need to be boarding Air Force One and drawing attention to… It’s so cocky and arrogant.

    BUCK: But I think the brazenness is part of the appeal. I mean, I think this is true of the fact that Nancy Pelosi’s husband and his trading history is out there for all to see, and they say, what are you going to do about it? Hunter Biden was paid millions of dollars. Hunter Biden is somebody who you would not — let’s be honest — feel comfortable leaving him in charge of your cats for a week, right? You’d be like, “I don’t know what’s gonna happen.

    “I’m gonna come back, those cats will not have eaten, they’ll be missing all their fur, bad…” I don’t know what’s going on with Hunter and the cats. You would not trust him. But you’d pay him millions of dollars to advise you to international business transactions? This is all known. And we’re just supposed to accept this, meaning that the people who are in charge of elevating public corruption at the New York Times and people at CNN and MSNBC who tell you they care so much about good governance.

    They just act like this is totally normal, nothing to see here. And I still remember because I was a frequent guest — not really staying there, but — at the Trump bar, Trump hotel in D.C. That’s at one place we could gather together and not have psycho libs with blue hair throwing things at us, that they wrote articles about how foreign diplomats at the bar were buying Trump’s foreign policy. If you’re paying for a Guinness at the Trump hotel and you happen to be from Finland, it’s a violation of the emoluments clause. They were doing this. They actually tabulated all the bar tabs; they tabulated all the cheeseburgers. It’s crazy.

    CLAY: Yeah. And I don’t know. I mean, will anybody even mention what I just mentioned about Hunter traveling all the way across the country so that he could board Air Force One in D.C. to fly somewhere else. And again, just think about it in the context of your own family vacations. Unless your parents are so unable to travel that you have to assist them, which certainly Joe Biden’s got dementia. I mean, he’s got a whole staff of people to get him down to South Carolina. Unless that is a real issue, you would never travel to where your parents are when you’re going to a different place on vacation. It’s just —

    BUCK: They just don’t care, man. The problem is they don’t get held to account so after a while it becomes rational, the cost-benefit analysis of caring about their hypocrisy, of caring about the way that they’re abusing the public trust. Whether it’s legal or not doesn’t matter.

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