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Assault of NYPD Officer Goes Viral, Attacker Released Without Bail

26 Jul 2022

BUCK: The crime situation nationwide is a big issue, but also with Eric Adams here in New York City, supposed to clean up the city and get it back on track, and we should be seeing the crime going down year after year. Instead, recently, thanks to Democrats, progressive prosecutors, BLM… BLM is remarkable, just made everything worse for everybody, made the crime situation worse for everybody too.

How do we turn all of this around? Well, there’s this video that got a lot of attention, and we can probably post a link to it up at ClayandBuck.com. You can just see what members of the NYPD have to deal with. Someone who, I believe he’s 16 years old, and he’s just punching a cop in the face in an all-out wrestling match, essentially, and it looks like just a brawl.

And, Clay, the reason people got so upset about this, not only, of course, because an officer’s being assaulted just for trying to enforce the law, but also the guy was out right away. Right away. Let him out right away. Not being held. He’s not. They’re not gonna charge him as an adult. He’s gonna be out. It’s gonna be no big deal in terms of how the justice system treats him. So even Eric Adams is calling for an emergency session of the state legislature ’cause they gotta change the laws.

CLAY: If you assault a police officer — I’m curious what you think on this, Buck — to me, you should have to go to prison for a minimum of a year. At a minimum, right? Like, if you’re on video punching and attacking a police officer, I don’t understand how you don’t have to go to prison for at least a year. Bare minimum. I don’t know what the official… But the idea that you could do that and be basically immediately let right back out onto the streets is indefensible, and we saw this certainly with the Lee Zeldin attack where he said, “As soon as I get attacked, the guy’s gonna be back on the streets,” and he was.

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A Majority of Baltimore Murders Are Committed by Criminals Let Free

26 Jul 2022

CLAY: I read this piece in the Wall Street Journal. Buck, I thought this was so well done. The author of this opinion piece is Sean Kennedy, and it’s using one particular city to try to examine why our violent crime, murders in particular, rate has skyrocketed, and the city that Sean Kennedy here analyzes is Baltimore.

BUCK: Have you spent much time there? I’ve spent a lot of time, I’ve spent a lot of time in Baltimore, yes, because I was doing work as a contractor with a financial advisory there over years. I actually hosted a podcast that was based, you know, for early on, was based out of Baltimore. So I spent a lot of time in Baltimore. There are a couple of very, very beautiful, little parts of Baltimore. They do exist.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: Overall, it is a shockingly underdeveloped and dangerous city.

CLAY: So, I have been to a lot of Baltimore Oriole games back in the day. Camden Yards is one of the first kind of throwback stadiums. I went to college in D.C. and D.C. at the time did not have a team. You could take the train up to the Orioles games in Camden Yards really cool, and I’ve been to Army-Navy a couple of times in the Baltimore area, in the Baltimore Ravens stadium. But Baltimore, not a safe city, and probably for people who don’t live on the East Coast, if you had to rank cities on the East Coast, Baltimore last. Philadelphia, I think has passed Baltimore. Like, if you were ranking cities that you were gonna live in in the Bos-NY corridor — you know, Boston all the way down —

BUCK: Look, there’s obviously good places every city, right, but if you’re talking just at a crime level, Philly had its worst ever year for murders last year. I forget the number, but I think you’ll want to say it was five or 600 which for a city of that size is a lot, might have even been closer to 700. Baltimore is not a big city by population, but on a per capita basis, it’s usually in the top five worst cities in the country for murders, maybe top 10, depends the year. St. Louis, according to the crime —

CLAY: Is number one.

BUCK: — data specialist was number one for this most recent year, which I didn’t realize St. Louis was per capita the highest murder rate in the country.

CLAY: Here’s my Bos-NY, D.C. power ranks. Having spent some time in all these places. If I had to live, I’d go D.C. one; I’d go Boston two, although I hate winters. I think Boston is pretty nice. I’d go New York City three. I’d go Philly four and I would go Baltimore five. That’s like the Amtrak corridor from Boston all the way down. So that would be my power ranking in order, one to five. I’d put Baltimore last.

“Charm City has recorded,” I’m reading from this analysis of murders, “more than 2,500 homicides since 2015,” and according to this study — I’m reading directly from the article — “Many of these killings could have been prevented, my analysis of court records and police data suggests, if the justice system had worked as intended.”

And he gives a couple of specific examples here about guys who are committing murders that are should have been still behind bars. “Baltimore’s murders,” I’m reading from this, “are typically committed by criminals with lengthy rap sheets, who often serve minimal time or are released early. These repeat offenders should be locked up but aren’t…”

He looked at “110 suspects charged with homicide in Baltimore between January 2019 and July 2020. [His] analysis indicates that the majority of the city’s murders didn’t have to happen. Ninety of the defendants,” 90 of the 110, “had previously been convicted of an offense carrying a sentence of three or more years in prison.” Buck —

BUCK: And they didn’t serve it.

CLAY: And didn’t serve it. So 90 of the 110 he looked at, theoretically, those murders didn’t have to happen if people had been serving their time behind bars.

BUCK: This is the part that everybody all over the country needs to know — and I think everyone intuitively —

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: — and certainly our audience knows this. But if you were to do a deep dive in Houston, in Phoenix, in Baltimore — as we just discussed — in D.C., find me a city that has had a substantial rise in murders. New York, clearly. Milwaukee. Here.

CLAY: Milwaukee we know.

BUCK: Milwaukee. Find me a city with a substantial increase in murders in the last few years. You do an analysis of what has been going on, the progressive prosecutors — Marilyn Mosby is one of them — progressive prosecutors who promised toned mass incarceration have been systematically thwarting the will of the people as expressed through their state legislatures when it comes to what kind of punishment people should get for doing the bad things?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: The logic — or the lack of logic, in a sense, but the argument — of the “end mass incarceration” people is, “We just need to have fewer people in prison.” What that has meant is that people who should be serving real prison terms end up getting almost no prison, and the way they get around the state mandatory minimums for things like armed robbery or attempted murder is these prosecutors give them plea deals that don’t even list the real charges they should be.

It’s not even, “Okay, you’re going away for attempted murder. We’ll give you five years. You could get 15.” That’s what people think of as plea deal. What they’re doing — Mosby, Bragg here in New York, Gascon in Los Angeles — is, “Oh, you’re a gang member who tried to kill somebody over a turf war or something? We’re not even gonna charge you for attempted murder. We’ll charge you for drug possession and illegal weapons possession and give you six months instead of the five or 10 years that you should get,” which is exactly what Baltimore analysis you’re talking about shows.

CLAY: And it’s such a great deep dive. I would encourage you guys to go read this article. We’re kind of giving you the details. But what it brings home, Buck, is, there are two things we can one billion percent do that should and would immediately start to reverse the violent crime epidemic that is sweeping through our entire nation, and this is getting scary. Get more cops back out on the streets.

Because not only are we losing cops for retirement and losing cops who are deciding, “We’re not getting supported by all of the apparatus of the city surrounding here — and therefore, we’re having issues actually hiring anybody competent who wants to be a police officer right now. We’re losing the veterans, and this is gonna make things worse.” We gotta get more cops and we gotta support them and let ’em do their jobs. And this goes to the direct point on the Baltimore study. Violent criminals we gotta put them in prison and we have to throw away the keep. We gotta it, put ’em out forever.

BUCK: You gotta lock up criminals, folks.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You gotta have people who understand that if they’re going to prey on the innocent, if they’re gonna hold guns to people’s faces and say, “Give me all the money out of the register or I’m going to murder you right here,” you don’t get another chance than that in terms of, “Oh, well, we’re just gonna maybe give you six months and then you’ll be out again.” It’s, “You serve 10 years. Your second chance comes after you served your 10 years.”

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: They have abandoned this logic. They have progressive prosecutors and Democrat Party because they’re so terrified — terrified — of not seeming to do enough on what they claim is the racial injustice of the criminal justice system. They have decided that we’re just not gonna lock up criminals. Irrespective of what that does to society, we’re just gonna let criminals…? It’s such a small — and this is the other thing about the Baltimore analysis, Clay. It’s such a small group of people that are doing this.

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: So effectively what the Democrat mind-set has become is, if there are… Let’s say in a city where here there’s a minority population that’s 30 or 40%. In Baltimore, it’s more like 50 or 60% of the city, might even be higher than that, might be 60 or 70, but 1% of the people within that minority population are committing all of the violent crimes.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: You can either protect the 99% who want to live their lives, go do their jobs or whatever, or you can say, “If there’s a disparate impact on that 1% within the minority community, that seems racist to us so we won’t actually enforce the laws,” and that’s what they’ve done, and people are suffering.

CLAY: And the minority communities are overwhelmingly saying, “Give us more police,” and —

BUCK: All of them! Across the country!

CLAY: — they are now arguing, I think increasingly, “Put violent perpetrators behind bars and keep them there so my kids and my family is safe.”

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Matt Gaetz Offends Pro-Abortion Protesters, Owns It

26 Jul 2022

CLAY: I think the ultimate legacy of Donald Trump — may well win again the presidency in 2024 and be president again. And we are scheduled right now, by the way, to have Donald Trump on with us on Friday. We’re looking forward to that. I’m gonna play in the LIV Pro-Am tour at Bedminster, his course outside of New York City. I’m flying up to New York City right at the end of the show today and I’ll be with, Buck. We’re going to go out and have dinner — not a steak dinner yet ’cause I haven’t won those.

But I think the one legacy of Donald Trump that is going to continue for a long time is he basically convinced Republicans, you don’t have to beg for the approval of the Washington Post, the New York Times, MSNBC, CNN. If you’re trending on social media, somebody’s mad about what you said, don’t apologize for it. Own it, and eventually they move on. And that’s great, I think, advice for anyone out there in the world of public affairs at all.

Say what you mean, own it, don’t apologize, don’t curl up in the fetal position, because if you don’t apologize, eventually they move on to people who are willing to apologize. The Mitt Romneys of the world, as it were. Okay. So Matt Gaetz, congressman from the Panhandle in Florida, was speaking at a Turning Point USA event I believe down in Tampa over the weekend, and he had this to say about the people who were out protesting.

BUCK: The blue-haired, abortion-marching protest ladies did not like this, Clay. (laughing)

CLAY: Okay. So it’s funny, right? He’s making jokes. He’s making fun of them. They were not happy, and they got their media friends to confront Matt Gaetz. You just heard what he said at Turning Point. Obviously having some fun, making a joke. And there may be some truth behind what I said.

BUCK: Oh, there’s definitely some truth behind the blue-haired angry lady thing.

CLAY: I would just say this in general. If you are the kind of person who protests anything, outdoors on a regular basis, I think you need a little bit more of a life. I just am saying, and I give more credit to at least people who protest in person than the people who protest from their phones ’cause at least the people, to his point, who are protesting in person are willing to stand outdoors with placards and move around as opposed to just sending tweets.

BUCK: And an important clarification: When we talk about blue-haired protesters, we’re not talking about elderly folks.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That’s “silver-haired.” Blue hair, we mean electric dyed blue, like what you would expect a clown to do. This is popular among the left-wing protest set. Anyway.

CLAY: So Matt Gaetz is confronted. You just heard what he said. He’s confronted by a media member who is upset. There’s outrage. Evidently, people are really angry at Matt Gaetz for what he said at the Turning Point event. Listen to this. I promise you this is how to handle when people get upset with you.

BUCK: (laughing)

CLAY: Listen.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: (laughing) I gotta say, he’s leaning into it.

CLAY: Own it. Right? They don’t want… There’s nothing that Matt Gaetz could say at this point that is going to keep the people… This is not about being offended; they hate him, right? They hate him and everything that he represents. Why would you apologize to people who hate you? They don’t want an apology. They want you weak.

BUCK: All he would do, if he engaged — and to your point about what Trump taught the GOP, there are many important things. One of the most important is, the moment you start prevaricating and waffling and, “Oh, I didn’t mean everybody at the march,” blah, blah, blah, then they just… Then they see you, it’s like you’re —

CLAY: Blood in the water.

BUCK: — the guy who’s backing away while someone’s coming at them throwing punches is gonna be on his back foot. That’s not where you want to be. So he just leans into it; throws a little haymaker there. It was good.

CLAY: I want to hear that one more time, ’cause people out there may not… It’s fast. It’s only like 11 seconds. This is what I had to deal with, Buck, when I went on and said I believe in the First Amendment and boobs, right, like, on CNN, and immediately there’s this demand. “Oh, you’ve got to apologize!” No, I never… If we get something wrong, like, we’ll say, “On this show like the other day…”

BUCK: You just said that, like, out of nowhere, right? You just were like, “I like the First Amendment…” Like, she didn’t ask you, “Clay, what are the two most important things to you,” and you responded “First Amendment and boobs,” right?

CLAY: No, but I mean I’ve been saying that on the radio for a long time because if you say, like, “I’m a First Amendment absolutist,” it goes over people’s heads because so many people claim that. So the only two things that have never let me down, the First Amendment and boobs, like, it’s a crime.

BUCK: What was the subject of the segment, by the way? I never even asked you.

CLAY: It was about whether Jemele Hill at ESPN should be fired for her comments about Donald Trump, and my argument is always, “No, I don’t think people should be fired for what they say. I think they should own it.” So, yeah, that clip is still circulating. Every now and then it goes viral again on TikTok, Instagram. My 14-year-old —

BUCK: I could get Brooke Baldwin out to dinner. Do we want to have a beer summit where you guys bury the hatchet?

CLAY: I don’t have anything against her. She’s the one who demanded I apologize.

BUCK: Yeah, I know.

CLAY: I would be happy to meet her. I’ve heard she’s not a bad person. I think she just worked at an awful place at the time.

BUCK: I think that’s true.

CLAY: Yes. So let’s listen one more time to Matt Gaetz. You heard the jokes, and here is the response.

CLAY: Oh, I just love it. I love it, Buck.

BUCK: They really hate Matt Gaetz. The libs, the left, they’ve spread lies about him. They’ve tried to go after him. They’ve suggested that any moment now, he’s gonna be locked up criminally. I mean, they hate him. They will lie about him, they will smear him, and I think that that he’s at the, “I don’t give a what” phase of his dealings with the libs, and that’s what you’re seeing there, you know. So…

CLAY: But there’s nothing that you could say that would make them happy there. Just say, be offended. Like, being offended is not a point of pride. We have to stop treating people who are offended as if they deserve something. You can be offended all the time. You’re entitled to have any opinion you want. Why should I care if you’re offended by something that I said?

BUCK: And also the people who are at these pro-abortion rallies, they’re wrong and it’s sick and it’s weird and they’re unhappy people, and we’re allowed to say that because that is overwhelmingly the case. So that’s also the truth. So there you go.

CLAY: If you’re upset, be offended. We gotta stop this idea of this ritualization of apologizing and being offended is fine. Like, there’s nothing in the United States Constitution that says you can’t be offended. In fact, get out there and make the argument on the contrary, but why do I care if you’re offended? Good for Matt Gaetz for standing up behind his joke and just saying, deal with it.

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Clueless KJP Claims We’re Not Even in a “Pre-Recession”

26 Jul 2022

BUCK: You want to talk about the recession that’s not coming, according to the White House?

CLAY: Karine Jean-Pierre is on the ball, right?

BUCK: This is amazing. There’s one… There’s the redefining of “recession” out of existence, and can we even…? I was thinking about this yesterday. Can we even be surprised by this, when you think about how “men can get pregnant” is now the mantra?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So if they’re gonna say men can get pregnant, I think they can also just change the definition of “recession.” Changing the definition of “recession” is easy compared to that one. That doesn’t mean we have to go along with it, and of course we won’t. But this was particularly fun. KJP, Karine Jean-Pierre, she is out there saying not only are we not in a recession, we are not even in — and I will say, I had never… To be fair, I’d never even heard this term before. We’re not even in a “pre-recession.”

BUCK: Not even in a pre-recession.

CLAY: Did she say we’re creating 400 jobs a month?

BUCK: Yes. Yes.

CLAY: Come on.

BUCK: It’s more like 315, if we’re gonna be fair.

CLAY: She doesn’t have any clue what she’s actually saying.

BUCK: Well, 400,000 jobs, Clay, 400 jobs, all the same thing. Doesn’t matter.

CLAY: I’m betting that she jotted down 400, but she’s so clueless that she didn’t see the K or didn’t come across on her notes. And, again, that’s a lie, and we’ve been on this for a while. All of the “jobs” — and I’m using quotation marks here; people watching the video on YouTube can see this. All of the “jobs” that we’ve created, Buck, are just jobs that people already had, that they were forced to not be able to have when suddenly we went to 20% employment because we shut down the country, we’re still basically not back to where we were then.

BUCK: And also, if you look at what’s going on for the people who are in jobs, right, what is the reality right now? So they’re like, “Oh, look at how low the unemployment rate is!” A very low labor force participation, as you and I have been talking about for weeks, the weird problem of inability to staff up very much. Like, airlines, for example. There are a lot of economic dislocations occurring right now. But even beyond that, what is the reality of somebody right now who has a job and wants to be making more money and wants to be able to pay their bills? Everything gets more expensive.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: They’re making less money now than they were a year ago because of inflation. Wages are not keeping up with inflation. So people, yeah, they may be working, but they’re moving in the wrong direction in terms of their earning power and their economic security relative to the beginning of the Biden administration. It’s going in the wrong direction, which is why all the polls show this. And they just don’t have a good answer for it, Clay, because the real answer is we got idiots in charge who doesn’t know what they’re doing.

CLAY: We do have idiots in charge.

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Clay’s Double Babe Ruth Called Shot Looks Better and Better

26 Jul 2022

CLAY: We were talking about the situation going on right now with Hunter Biden, and now it seems… Have you been paying attention also to the potential investigation? Merrick Garland is clearly investigating Trump for January 6th, and I should say Trumpland, right? The larger apparatus surrounding Trump for January 6th.

And my double Babe Ruth called home run shot of what’s gonna happen here is they’re gonna charge Hunter and then they’re gonna charge Trump and try to argue that the DOJ is clean. Now, I think they’ll charge Trump with some kind of wacky conspiracy related thing if they do it. Do you buy in to my idea that if they charge Hunter with something, they’re giving themselves cover to charge Trump?

BUCK: Well, I don’t think they’re gonna charge Hunter, but if they were to charge — ’cause think about the position that puts Joe Biden in, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: If they were really gonna charge him… Look, I don’t care who you are. If you’re the president of the United States and your son is facing — your remaining, surviving son, right? He already lost one son recently — is facing time in federal prison, you’re commuting, if not pardoning, that sentence, right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And so now we have the Biden crime family effectively doing — to your point about how everything they said Trump did, the Biden family actually has engaged in. At that point it will be an even stronger case. I think it’s a strong case right now, that that’s true. But, you know, if that happens, we’re in this uncharted territory situation. Do they bring some kind of charge against Trump knowing that it’s a Hail Mary pass, in a sense? It’s just trying to shake things up and make things… Given how desperate they are right now with the polls, the numbers, where they’re looking, economy where it’s going on, I don’t think you can discount… You agree. You’re calling a shot in the upper deck here, bud, right? This would be —

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And I would be deeply impressed. But I’m not saying you’re crazy and I’m not saying… You know, I wouldn’t bet everything I got against you on it.

CLAY: And here’s the other thing about this. We didn’t talk a lot about Steve Bannon getting convicted, but Democrats right now have such a home-court advantage for any charges that are brought in D.C. where they are basically preaching to the choir inside of any jury, and so that’s the other aspect of this that’s such a mess.

BUCK: The judges are lib acolytes too, and so they won’t allow even a change of venue. You know, you’d much rather… If you’re Steve Bannon you would much rather be charged in, like, the Southern District of Virginia or something, or whatever the districts are there, or face a jury down there than you would in D.C. proper, which is what’s going on.

CLAY: Which is why I think this is such a big part of the calculus as well is even if they brought charges against Hunter Biden, would there be any…? If they’re federal charges and they brought them in the D.C. area…? Now, I know there’s all sorts of different violations. The investigation going on in Delaware and he’s committed, frankly, crimes everywhere. I wonder where the forum might be on any charges that are brought, not only for Hunter Biden, but also if they tried with Trump.

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Grassley: Whistleblowers Say FBI, DOJ Covered Up for Hunter Biden

26 Jul 2022

BUCK: I want to start with this story that’s gotten a fair bit of attention about something that is really troubling, ‘cause while on the one hand there’s all this focus on the January 6th committee from the Democrats — and as we know, this is just they have to create a psychological safe space for themselves. They have to have this place where they can feel like, “We’re the good guys,” and that’s what January 6th is.

Forget about the economy; forget about everything else. January 6th is, “We’re the heroes of the republic, and we’re gonna stop the monster Trump.” Meanwhile — and you and I, of course, have a bet about this, and I have been told to remind you that you also have a steak bet with our friend Ms. Ann Coulter over who’s going to win the Georgia Senate race. She told me about this this morning. She said she’s not letting you out of that one.

CLAY: Look, I think I have four steak bets right now, Buck, just for the record. One with you over Hunter Biden, one with Ann Coulter over whether Trump runs in 2024 — which, that one is like minus 19,000.

BUCK: She’s gonna be buying you a steak on that one for sure.

CLAY: Yeah, worst case. I think Herschel Walker wins, and I’m pretty confident about that, and I also bet Mollie Hemingway. We had a dinner on Friday. Mollie Hemingway bet me a steak over whether Ron DeSantis was gonna run for president. And I feel like I’m just racking up steaks left and right here.

BUCK: It’s like you’re running the Clay Travis Aged Beef Foundation or Dry-Aged Beef Foundation.

CLAY: Yeah, I know. I’m gonna have to open up my own steakhouse at this point because I’m just taking everybody. To me, I’m going 4-0 in these. Yours is the most difficult of those.

BUCK: Well, bringing it right back into that, there is whistleblower information now that has come to the attention of Senator Chuck Grassley, and Washington Examiner here with a piece on this, although it’s been covered a number of very solid news outlets. “The FBI’s investigation into Hunter Biden wrongly labeled verified evidence as ‘disinformation,’ agency whistleblowers claimed. Agents investigating President Joe Biden’s son ‘opened an assessment which was used by an FBI headquarters team to improperly discredit negative Hunter Biden information as disinformation and caused investigative activity to cease,’” end quote.

Clay, if the FBI really is now the Praetorian Guard for Democrat administration, if they are going to engage in soft coups against a Republican administration like Trump, and then prevent the actual administration of justice under Biden, we’ve got a really big problem to handle.

CLAY: Well, if you want to have a real investigation into threats to our democracy — and I mean this honestly — Democrats staged the January 6th event. I don’t think there’s a lot of depth to January 6th, by which I mean we know almost everything about January 6th. And there hasn’t really been that many revelations to come out of all of the prime-time hearings, all the hours that they’ve spent this summer covering January 6th.

Buck, how about we have a deep investigation into the decisions by Big Tech surrounding the 2020 election, in particular the lockdown of the New York Post Twitter account, the clear attempt to turn the Hunter Biden laptop into Russian disinformation that seems to have stemmed throughout the entirety of the entire Democrat apparatus, including also the FBI and national security. Wouldn’t you like to have an investigation there? And I would like to have an investigation into how every social media company came to simultaneously ban Donald Trump.

How much conversation was going on there? What exact rig job experience was going on surrounding everything Big Tech in 2020? And how does this interplay of the FBI with the Biden administration and a clear decision made to treat what is — appears to be a hundred percent accurate laptop. And, Buck, not only a hundred percent accurate laptop, as all of these different videos and text messages and emails and everything else have come out, it’s impossible for Russia to have faked this. I mean, the whole idea that this could have ever been Russian disinformation, when you’ve got Hunter Biden recording himself on his laptop with hookers and crack, naked, making porno videos, all these things, this was impossible to have been Russian disinformation.

BUCK: The people who came forward — and that includes some from the — dozens from the intelligence community, including those who had run some of the three-letter agencies — you know, CIA, NSA, et cetera — they knew that it wasn’t disinformation. I’m just gonna tell everybody that right now. But they also knew that they were giving cover to a lie and that that was what was commanded of them to be in the good graces of the apparatus and of the Democrat Party. They gave cover to a lie. That was the whole point.

That was the whole purpose. They didn’t actually think — I mean, if they could make a deep fake with Hunter Biden dancing around in his tighty-whities dusting crack over himself while he’s making porno videos with strippers — or hookers, whatever. If they could do that, they could do anything, right? I mean, this was so obviously not disinformation; it was clear to everybody in the beginning that it was reality. But I think everyone needs to understand, the people who lied about it don’t feel bad about it and they won’t be held accountable —

CLAY: — at high levels right now like Jake Sullivan.

BUCK: Yeah, they’re rewarded for this the same way that all of the Russia collusion truthers in the media received effectively promotions — more famous, bigger paychecks, more respected by the establishment — and the government says, “Oh, maybe a few of them had a couple problems because they were working for Trump technically and were trying to overthrow him with lies.” But now they’ve got book deals, they’re on the speaking circuit. The apparatus takes care of its own. And this is one of the reasons why they’re able to get away with this stuff, because they have a well-oiled machine of propaganda, lies, and disinformation in the cause of rooting out, allegedly, disinformation. That’s the amazing part, right? The watchers are the ones who need to be watched.

CLAY: Succinctly said. When I read this Hunter Biden latest bombshell revelation — I say “bombshell,” because most everybody out there who listens to us is already quite familiar with it. But to me the way to sort of sum all this up is, everything that they told you about the Trump family, the Biden family actually did it. And it’s wild to think about because for five years they told us that the Trump family was the worst collection of grifters that had ever existed in mankind. And then you look at everything that Hunter Biden did, and they provided complete and total cover for him.

But this is really… I mean, I’m curious what you think, Buck. We could have a long conversation on this ’cause you went into the CIA post-9/11 because you were a patriot, because you wanted to go fight for your country and help everyone out there who was worried about the Middle East and terrorists and everything else in a post-9/11 era. How furious do you think so many people inside the CIA and the FBI are who had similar motives as you to go work for the better of the country, and then they find out — and I think it’s a good analogy you’re making — that, effectively, they’re the praetorian guard protecting the ruling class as opposed to protecting the people.

BUCK: I can tell you that I know people from within… I still know people that are in the intelligence community and some of them are very senior now, because people that I worked with, you know, now they’re in 15, 20 years, right? I mean, they’re people that are running some of the —

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: — and here’s the way that it works. If you are a lib who gets high up in the FBI, high up in the CIA, you are a zealot. And so, when you have the power to push things politically for your side, you do it. The people I know who are conservatives still show up every day at the FBI, the CIA, wherever, and they’re about the mission. And it’s just a difference in mentality. You know, the same way that leftists can’t hear things they don’t like and want to shut down speech they don’t like, it’s just in their nature, people in the bureaucracy who are libs, who are true believer Democrats, when they have the power…

A lot. You know, when you’re junior, someone like me — I mean, I was just a guy in cubicle trying to do his best. But when you get up in the ranks, then all of a sudden you have the power to — oh, I don’t know — look what happened to Trump. You had that guy who’s at the NSC who with the phone call and the impeachment, these Democrats, they do this stuff all the. The moment they think they can take down a White House, they will do it for the cause. The conservatives that I know that worked at these places, worked at the FBI, they’re like, can we stop the human traffickers, the drug cartels, you know —

CLAY: The actual bad guys.

BUCK: The actual bad guys? Can we find the serial killers and the heroin pushers and the bad people and not just worry all the time about, you know, what headquarters in D.C. thinks about the latest Washington Post op-ed? It is a difference in mentality, and it stretches to the very top of these institutions.

CLAY: It is incredibly frustrating — are you nervous? Here is the — are you nervous that you’re going to lose your steak bet?

BUCK: No, because, remember, just for clarity’s sake, they’re going to find a way to give Hunter a little slap on the wrist, and that’s what I’ve said all along, and then I’m eating that filet with bearnaise sauce and even Oscar style crab on it.

CLAY: We’ve got dinner tonight.

BUCK: That’s just so excessive. I love it. Little pieces of fresh crabmeat on top of your steak with the bearnaise sauce, Clay. I’m gonna take photos of this, guys.

CLAY: It is very, very good. And look. I’m confident that I’m gonna win all four of those steak bets that are out there right now in the next couple months.

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26 Jul 2022

  • WSJ: In Marilyn Mosby’s Baltimore, Repeat Criminals Go Free to Kill – Sean Kennedy
  • Washington Post: Quit, Joe, Quit! Biden could save the midterms with a one-term pledge – Steven L. Isenberg
  • Breitbart: ‘Soviet-Style Propaganda’: Republicans Rip Biden White House for Redefining ‘Recession’ amid Economic Contraction
  • Daily Wire: Inflation Hammering Rural America, 91% Of Income Used Just To Live, Study Finds
  • NewsBusters: What Recession? Ruhle Declares ‘We Are in An Economic Recovery’

  • ZeroHedge: No Recession? All Of A Sudden Yield Spreads Are Collapsing
  • ZeroHedge: Luongo: None Dare Call It A Recession Lest The Democrats Lose The Mid-Terms
  • Legal Insurrection: Even CNN is Bashing the White House’s Attempt to Redefine Recession

  • Federalist: FBI Jeopardized National Security By Calling Verified Hunter Biden Evidence ‘Disinformation,’ Whistleblowers Say
  • Daily Wire: ‘Highly Credible’ FBI Whistleblowers Describe Concerted Effort To Scuttle Negative Hunter Biden Stories: Report

  • Breitbart: Fauci: Masks Have to Be ‘Well-Fitted’ and ‘High-Quality’ Like an N95 or KN95
  • Daily Caller: ‘If I Knew In 2020 …’: Fauci Reveals What He Would Have Done Differently As COVID Emerged
  • BizPacReview: Regretful Fauci says COVID restrictions should’ve been ‘much, much more stringent’, calls to mask kids in schools

  • HotAir: Deborah Birx: I think we overplayed the vaccines
  • NewsBusters: Doocy, Portnoy Torch WH Over Biden’s Doctor Hiding From Press
  • UK Daily Mail: Fauci says Biden has completed his Paxlovid treatment after five days but ‘doubts’ he has tested negative as president hopes to be back working in person by the end of the week

  • Breitbart: Report: Jill Biden’s Press Secretary Leaving the White House After Embarrassing Taco Speech
  • BizPacReview: Dems fume when Disney rejects abortion, J6, gun control ads on Hulu: ‘Censorship of truth is outrageous’
  • New York Post: The left is starting to realize AOC is just a performance artist
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  • Breitbart: NYTimes: Cartels Get $13 Billion a Year from Joe Biden’s Welcome for Migrants
  • Daily Wire: ‘This Is Barbaric’: Cruz Slams Biden In Graphic Video For ‘Ignoring The Narco Slave Trade’
  • PJ Media: Sanctuary City Mayor Eric Adams Is Warning New York Citizens of an Influx of Illegal Aliens
  • New York Post: Border charity trickery is hurting Americans
  • Daily Wire: Chicago Mayor Proposes $2.2 Billion Plan to Entice NFL Team to Stay; Bears Moving On to Safer Suburb

  • Breitbart: Religious Freedom Win: Canada Scraps Charges Against Anti-Lockdown Pastor Artur Pawlowski
  • Breitbart: Trump Warned You: Putin Halves German Gas Supply AGAIN as EU Economy Spirals
  • BizPacReview: Justin Trudeau proceeds with cap on fertilizer use despite risk of food shortages, bankrupt farmers
  • Daily Wire: CNN Runs Piece Saying Selfish Americans Don’t Need Air Conditioning

  • Daily Wire: ‘So Deeply Offensive’: Greg Gutfeld Reveals What Makes Him Want To Punch Al Gore In The Face
  • Breitbart: Gay Groups Puts Blame for Monkeypox Crisis on Government ‘Inaction’
  • PJ Media: Insanity Wrap: How Not to Catch Monkeypox for Dummies

  • Gateway Pundit: Obama-Biden’s ‘Climate Change’ Initiative Hurts Economy, Helps Iran, And Does Little to Prevent ‘Climate Change’
  • Breitbart: Beijing Promotes Disney Exhibition ‘to Combine Mickey Mouse and Chinese Culture’
  • New York Post: Russia to withdraw from International Space Station in 2024, build new base

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    100-Pound Sailfish Leaps from Water, Spears Woman

    25 Jul 2022

    BUCK: Do you like to fish?

    CLAY: I do kind of enjoy fishing, yes.

    BUCK: That was not your most —

    CLAY: Well —

    BUCK: — football you’d do back flips.

    CLAY: Well, because partly it depends. I’ve been out deep-sea fishing, and I’m not a big fan of being on boats when I can’t see land.

    BUCK: We’re on the same page here, buddy. I go for this. I’m a fresh… I like freshwater fishing or ocean fishing is fine. I just need to either be on, like, a pier or in sight of land, and if I’m done, I can get on the land. If I see nothing but water, I’m very unhappy. I’m just gonna say.

    CLAY: Yeah. I’m not a big boat person when land is not visible. So, I like to fish. I don’t like to fish when I can’t see land.

    BUCK: There was this crazy story — and we are gonna bring back at some point here, Clay, officially bring back Clay’s Animal Thunderdome and make it a part of the show because it’s so much fun. People reach out. Everyone loves the boa constrictor gets shot by the cops story ’cause that’s crazy. You’re thinking about how that actually played out. This is a rough one. A hundred-pound sailfish over the weekend leaped out of the water, okay — I guess leapt, leaped — and it actually impaled a 73-year-old woman in the thigh area —

    CLAY: Oh, no.

    BUCK: — with its pointy, you know —

    CLAY: Spear.

    BUCK: — spear-mouth thing. It’s a bill which is very sharp.

    CLAY: I’ve caught those sailfish before. In South Florida, I’ve been out. They have specific focus. No, you don’t keep ’em. You catch ’em and then you put ’em back in the water so there’s a photo. Yeah, catch-and-release. There’s a photo somewhere of me with one of those big sailfish. And this is terrifying to think that you could be speared, effectively, by this animal.

    BUCK: They are incredibly athletic. I’ve gone. I went sail fishing in Costa Rica a long time ago.

    CLAY: Did you catch one?

    BUCK: I did indeed.

    CLAY: Yes. Did you get pictured holding it?

    BUCK: I think we have a picture somewhere. I have pictures of me from the same trip with tarpon for sure. They’re just giant, shiny muscles in the water. Tarpon are like 120 pounds of “you’re not going to land me.” And you sit there, like, trying to reel these things in. But, yeah, this woman got impaled by a sailfish. So, you know, you’re out there, you think it’s just another day opening the beers, sailing in the ocean, but you’re dealing with animals. And whether it’s a humpback whale that’s breaching or a sailfish that’s leaping, things can get rough out there.

    CLAY: The other time I’ve been deep sea fishing, I lived in the Caribbean, so I was around on boats. Again, if you can see the land, I’m not that troubled by it. We were out — deep-sea fishing way out. St. Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands, I was like in the USVI. It’s where I practiced law to start. We had caught a big barracuda. Barracuda’s getting reeled in. Big shark comes up and eats the barracuda. So, then we had the shark attached to the line, spent all day reeling in that shark, big shark, and when that shark got in the boat, that is a pretty scary moment when you got a shark that big. Again, we caught it, not trying to catch the shark just when it ate the barracuda. Little fish gets eaten by the big fish out there. Nature story for you.

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    Today: Fauci Calls for Masks in “Congregant Indoor Setting”

    25 Jul 2022

    BUCK: (impression) “When you’re in a situational circumstance where the dynamics of viral transmission in the ecosystem of the general oxygenation of the air surrounding you — also known as ‘congregate setting’ — you must be sure to be breathing through a cloth that no one actually thinks stops virus particles, but it will annoy the crap out of you and signal your subservience to the Democrat apparatus.” I just wanted to finish off Fauci’s statement. That’s from today, Clay, what he just said.

    CLAY: A hundred percent that’s from today. No one has ever used the word “congregate ” more than Dr. Fauci.

    BUCK: He uses big words to impress dumb people. I hope we’re all very clear on that. People go, “Oh, he said ‘a congregate setting,’ like, I better listen to him now.”

    CLAY: I’m blown up by all the reaction from Louisville people. We were talking about the fact that Louisville kids are gonna have to be in masks and I appreciate all the responses that people are sending me, the emails, the (unintelligible), the parents getting involved to fight against this. And I just want to use it as a clarion call because we’re playing Fauci. That’s not from two years ago. That’s Fauci right now saying that your kids — he said this too — should be wearing masks everywhere indoors, all over the country. That’s the Democrat position. It’s why there needs to be an unmitigated disaster for Democrats at the polls.

    BUCK: They just ignore…The state of Florida, which did not have mandatory masking, has very detailed data that they’ve made public —

    CLAY: Yes.

    BUCK: — and everyone just says, “Well, Florida, Ron DeSantis, he’s like worse than Trump, who’s worse than Stalin.” They just ignore the Florida data. And it shows. I mean, we had a control group, effectively. Florida was the control group insofar as there wasn’t statewide mandatory masking for children. Was there a huge difference in the spread of covid or any discernible difference the spread of covid? No.

    So, masking works so well that even when you run massive experiments with a control group state by state, they can’t even show any difference whatsoever. But they just ignore it, and Fauci blathers on about dynamics of viral circulation in congregate settings, also known as, does the virus spread in groups? That’s all he’s saying. But he’s the absolute the worst, as we all know.

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