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Who’s Going to Bring Charges Against Hunter Biden?

12 Jul 2022

CLAY: Buck, I gotta be honest with you. I’m feeling more and more confident every single time there’s a new Hunter Biden laptop story about charges coming down the pike for your boy Hunter, and it may even be they may get — it may end up being like Al Capone-like where they get him for tax evasion or traveling across state lines with prostitutes ’cause it seemed like he was a one-man stimulus package for East Coast prostitutes.

BUCK: Clay, you gotta go back to the fundamental question here, though, which is who is going to bring those charges? Who in the federal prosecutorial service is going to decide that with a Biden administration that will still be in power for two more years, they will bring federal criminal charges? I still… Look, you have ’til the end of the year, by the way. There is a time limit on this, just to be clear, right?

CLAY: I think it needs to happen in the summer because I do think as it moves closer to the midterms, I don’t think in October they’re gonna suddenly indict Hunter Biden. I think that’s unlikely.

BUCK: Hunter is going to probably, you know, plead to some kind of minor offense, pay a fine, and they’ll say justice has been done. Remember, our bet is does he face criminal charges with possible prison time attached to it right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: So, if he pays, you know, late tax fee, et cetera, or, you know, he pleads to some kind of, you know, misuse of a computer misdemeanor or something, that doesn’t count. And I just think that right now — now, I will say, what’s moving in a direction, in my opinion, in this bet, more than anything else, is that Biden’s centrality to the Democrat Party is eroding every day.

CLAY: They’re done with him.

BUCK: So, if this were a situation where, let’s say like Hillary was in office, and Chelsea had all these terrible problems but Hillary was clearly the nominee, going to run for reelection, had decent poll numbers. I don’t care. They could have Hillary’s adult child on video taking bribes from sheikhs; it wouldn’t matter, okay? It wouldn’t matter at all. Full stop.

No prosecutor would bring those charges. What is moving in your direction is the possibility that they actually want to make it impossible for Joe Biden to run. So, it’s actually the change in the politics for the Democrats instead of a change in the actual investigation and criminal evidence that is piling up right now. So, that’s the only reason why I may be buying you a steak.

CLAY: It’s possible the kneecap on Joe Biden from Democrats — and I think that’s what they’ve been inching up towards — is going to be Hunter getting charged with crimes, because then they can say, in addition to being 80, your son is facing serious federal crimes and you are potentially implicated in them as well, you can’t run anymore.

It’s also possible there could be some horse trading, Buck, before it’s all said and done, and you know how dirty this whole process can be, where they say, hey, we’ll go easy to Hunter, but you have to announce that you’re not going to run for reelection. I could see some sort of situation like that going on. I mean, we know how dirty and complicit the DNC was in the Hillary Clinton versus Bernie Sanders great battle where they clearly were doing everything they could to help Hillary. I feel like they are doing and putting a political hit job on Joe Biden in the Democrat Party where they are going to figure out some way to force him out.

BUCK: Well, think about how much heavy lifting they’ve done up to this point to make it seem as though it’s always just, “Oh, Hunter Biden and his drug addiction. It’s just so sad.” How many people out there know somebody who has got an addiction to alcohol or pills or whatever and there’s all the sympathy for that because a lot of people do, right? Addiction is very real. It’s very challenging. The part of this that’s actually so troubling.

There’s also the porno videos, the strippers — I mean, the strippers that he impregnates and then denies — and then the prostitutes. That’s all bad too, but from a national policy perspective, it’s not about Hunter Biden does crack. It’s Hunter Biden does crack and is selling access to then the vice president, now the president of the United States to adversary countries. That’s a big deal. And they just don’t want anyone focusing on that. They want focusing on, oh, look at Hunter walking around in his tighty-whities with a boa on and taking videos of himself.

CLAY: Someone at the New York Post — I’m not sure exactly who it was — tweeted out a question that I hadn’t thought about but makes total sense. How does Hunter Biden still have clearance to visit the White House? Given all of the things in his background, given the fact that he’s clearly under federal investigation, how in the world is he getting clearance?

BUCK: You don’t need a security clearance to go to the White House.

CLAY: To visit and be unrestricted wherever he can go all through it? I mean, you have to put your name in to be able to get into the White House.

BUCK: It’s the president’s son, man. It’s the president’s house right now so he’s gonna go. I don’t know.

CLAY: He can visit The Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, place; but are you comfortable that Hunter Biden isn’t being used as an asset in China?

BUCK: Oh, you mean as a counterintelligence risk in the White House.

CLAY: That’s what I’m talking about.

BUCK: Ah.

CLAY: I’m not convinced that he’s not being used right now as a way to try to influence American policy.

BUCK: Like the Manchurian Candidate but with a lot more crack.

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“Can’t Cancel Rob Smith” on Woke Left Madness

12 Jul 2022

BUCK: We’ve got our friend Rob Smith in the house, and he is the host of Can’t Cancel Rob Smith, which is particularly true if many of you subscribe ’cause then they Can’t Cancel Rob Smith. He’s also a veteran of the United States military, he’s an author, he’s a friend of mine, friend of Clay’s, with us here actually in-studio in New York City. Rob, great to have you back, man.

SMITH: Great to be here, man, in-studio in New York City.

BUCK: Yes. While we still can have in-person things in New York. I’m starting to get a little worried. Here is “The Fauch.”

BUCK: You know, they also at the CDC say, Rob, time for your fourth booster, in advance of the new variant that will certainly come about this fall and Pfizer saying we’re gonna have an updated mRNA for whatever that is. It probably there will be a year behind nonetheless. Fauci is saying the pandemic is still here, folks, get ready for boosters forever. And the Biden administration is extending the emergency because there’s a lot of money involved in all this. I know you’ve been digging into where some of the money’s been going.

SMITH: Yeah, you know, look, there’s a lot of money involved in it. There’s also a lot of control in this as well. I cringed when you played that clip because I thought that I’d never hear that sort of scratchy voice ever again. But this is very interesting where some of this money has been going, right? And remember, when Joe Biden was pushing this to the American people and Republicans and some conservatives were saying, “What’s up with all this money we’re spending?

“Maybe we should slow down,” they said they want to get in the way of, you know, us saving lives. Okay, let’s talk about where some of this money has gone. $15 million in the American Rescue Plan project grant to institutions across 49 states, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, okay, right. So the Rochester Museum and Science Center in New York got $50,000 for a field trip for third grade students “that would utilize the take-it-down exhibit which tells the story of a community-led effort to remove racist artwork from an historic carousel as a tool for anti-racism education,” right? So this is the CRT stuff and all of that stuff that our taxpayer dollars are going toward.

BUCK: So money that was covid relief money from the government went to taking kids on a field trip to learn about the racist carousel?

SMITH: Absolutely. Oh! Oh! And it gets even better. So the Studio Museum in Harlem — and I’ve actually been there. It’s a great place, right? But they got $50,000 to build a nine-foot bronze statue in Marcus Garvey Park that quote, “addresses black masculinity, stereotypes, and shared diasporic experiences.” So, look, I don’t care that these institutions are doing these things or whatever. I do care, but that’s not the point out. The point is that all of this money that we were told was going toward “saving lives” is going towards this far-left CRT-based absolute nonsense.

BUCK: You know, Clay, that’s why the fact that the Biden administration is formally extending the state of emergency, a large part of this is Medicaid funding. There’s like a Medicaid… Effectively you can’t kick anyone off the Medicaid rolls anywhere, as I understand it as long as this covid state of emergency exists.

CLAY: Yeah, no, it’s wild. And, Rob, by the way, I don’t know if you heard us talking about this earlier or if you’ve seen the stories, but Josh Hawley, senator, was questioning a UC Berkeley law professor, and she said he was being transphobic when he said that only women can get pregnant. You’re a gay guy living in New York City.

SMITH: Yes.

CLAY: I’m curious. How much conversation is there in the gay community about how crazy the transgender community has become? When you guys sit around and talk and you hear, “Hey, you’re supposed to be saying men can get pregnant as a part of the transgender agenda,” what is the gay community conversation like, just among yourselves about things like this?

SMITH: Well, the thing about it, Clay, is that — and I’m glad that you delineated the separation between gay and trans. These things are not the same, at all. But what’s going on right now is this. So you have a great deal of gay people who are actually not insane. They actually believe in biological sex and all of these different things but they afraid to sort of stand up against the radical left trans activists that have sort of taken over everything, right?

So it’s always left to the gay conservatives or the gay right-leaning people or whatever to actually stand-up and say the reality that is on everybody’s minds. And what I say to that is that it’s going to be up to the gay and lesbian liberals that are still sane. There are some of them. They are absolutely terrified to speak out about this because they don’t want to be canceled. Obviously like I can’t be canceled. It’s the name of the podcast, right?

But, you know, these people are so afraid to speak out. But if they don’t start speaking out and taking control of that narrative, it will never change because, gay conservative, Republican-leaning guys, whatever, like me, we’ve already been excommunicated for speaking the truth. And the most annoying thing is when some of these gay and lesbian liberals kind of come up to you and they whisper like, “Oh, I agree with you secretly. But I can never say that. Because, you know, I still want to get invited to the cocktail parties and I’ve got a MSNBC contributorship that I gotta worry about.”

BUCK: You know, Rob, Macy Gray stepped into this arena of discussion last week, and it was just amazing because she just said what we all know, which is, “Look, a woman is a woman, you can’t just become a woman. There are realities here we have to deal with.” But then the way that she had — it’s not enough to just say, I’m sorry, I didn’t mean any offense. It has to be this walking around, self-shaming of, “You know, I’ve really grown and learned as a person.”

SMITH: Have to be educated.

BUCK: That’s right. Be educated. There’s a very Soviet reeducation feel to this. Like, “I didn’t realize the depths of my ignorance.” So not only do they force you to bend the knee, they also insist on humiliation for people who say what is observable fact.

SMITH: Absolutely. And it is humiliating. And I remember, you know, I had talked about this on my podcast a little bit. When Macy Gray came out with this, I said, “Okay. So T-minus five, four, three, two, one until she apologizes.” So either she is going to be forced to apologize, she is gonna be forced to bend the knee to these maniacs, or she won’t, right, because you see J. K. Rowling has not apologized.

She’s actually doubled and tripled down in her support for the protection of women’s biological spaces, and what they have done to her is criminal. The Harry Potter kids that J. K. Rowling made multi-, multi-, multimillionaires many times over, they distanced themselves, et cetera, et cetera. And so it’s sad to see Macy Gray back down on this. But, you know, this is what the activists do to people.

CLAY: Rob, last question for you.

SMITH: Yes?

CLAY: Buck is newly engaged.

SMITH: Yes.

CLAY: He’s trying to get back in great shape in time for the wedding and the honeymoon and everything else. You are in phenomenal shape. I’m not in that great shape myself, either. It’s beach season as well for everybody out there.

SMITH: Yes.

CLAY: You only can give people one or two exercises to do.

SMITH: Mmm?

CLAY: Which would be the one or two you would say are the best for people to be embracing?

SMITH: Okay. So I’m a really big fitness nut. I’m not gonna give people an exercise but I’m gonna give people two concepts to sort of wrap their brain around.

CLAY: Okay.

SMITH: First is that a six-pack is built in the kitchen, not in the gym. So, work on your eating and drinking before you start working on anything else. And second, like I’ve been telling Buck: Heavy weights and high protein help. It’s gonna feel like you’re eating so much protein that you can’t even eat anything else, but when you’re doing that and lifting, you’re gonna burn fat; you’re gonna look incredible.

BUCK: So I’ve been spending months for the audience benefit here, doing things that I used to do a lot when I was in better shape — deadlifting and the bench and all these things — and what I find, though, is you’re always doing this people say, “Make sure you hit enough protein,” but you also have to be in a caloric deficit.

SMITH: Yes.

BUCK: I’m 40. It just feels like, wait. Eating more is gonna mean that I’m not in the caloric deficit, and Rob is telling me, “No, you just have to be very precise about the foods you’re eating so that they are full of protein and you stay within your macros,” and now I just want to eat some ice cream and give up. But, anyway…

CLAY: (laughing)

SMITH: No, that’s the thing. You got get out of the ice cream, the pizza, all of that stuff. You’ve gotta think about how amazing you’re gonna look in that tux on your wedding day, those pictures — that you’re gonna be looking at forever, by the way — and then the honeymoon, the beach, all of that stuff. Just keep that stuff in your mind, Buck.

BUCK: Can’t Cancel Rob Smith, and if you listen to his podcast, folks, Can’t Cancel Rob Smith, you also will get some very helpful workout and general life tips, et cetera. Rob, always good to see you, man. Thanks for coming and hang out in the studio.

SMITH: Thanks, guys.

CLAY: Good tips. I try to follow them. Unfortunately, beer, pizza, ice cream, 95% of my diet, Buck.

BUCK: Don’t you eat baloney sandwiches on Wonder Bread for lunch every day?

CLAY: Turkey. It’s turkey and cheese. Show some respect to the turkey business. Yes, I do eat a lot of turkey. So, I don’t know if that’s good or bad. And we were talking about Taco Bell earlier, Buck, you’re not even gonna be able to get the crunchy or the soft tacos at all in time for the big event.

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Get Ready: It’s Time for Shots 4, 5, 6 and 7

12 Jul 2022

CLAY: Roll up the sleeves, boys and girls! Your CDC director, Rochelle Walensky, is telling you that it is imperative that all of you listening right now have to run out and get your fourth covid shot. Even though the first three haven’t worked, the fourth will work, and if the fourth doesn’t work, the fifth — and if the fifth doesn’t, it will be the sixth. Here’s Rochelle Walensky. Listen closely.

BUCK: That would be — for those of you keeping tabs, keeping score — four shots over, call it a 15-month period, give or take?

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: Four shots, folks, just a little over a year — and let’s be clear. They’re going to have to tell you to get more shots with the new variant. This is the fourth shot in preparation for the variant out there now. But based on the original covid strain — they still haven’t changed the way that they set up the mRNA shots yet. And they’re already saying, the head of Pfizer is saying you’re gonna have new shots in the fall. So, Clay, it’s the fourth shot now. Once you get it in November, time for five, six, and seven, baby. Time to really party with those shots.

CLAY: Buck, what do you think they would tell somebody like me who’s never gotten a shot? Do I get to skip the first three and go straight to four, or do I have to get all of the shots that don’t work anymore in order to be able to get the booster?

BUCK: I don’t know We’re gonna send you nice care packages at Gitmo, Clay, when they send you.

CLAY: (laughing) I just don’t know when it’s gonna end.

BUCK: Never, ‘cause you refuse to roll up that sleeve. Bioterrorist! That’s what they’re gonna say.

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Ari Fleischer on How Media Bias Has Gotten So Much Worse

12 Jul 2022

BUCK: We have Ari Fleischer with us now, former White House press secretary, Fox News contributor, author of a new book, Suppression, Deception, Snobbery, and Bias: Why the Press Gets So Much Wrong ― And Just Doesn’t Care. Ari, welcome to the show, sir.

FLEISCHER: Thank you for having me.

BUCK: So, how much worse is it now? As soon as I saw we were gonna have you on, Ari, I thought, so this guy had to deal with it back in the Bush era. What I think a lot of people forget is that the media even then was talking about Bush is a Nazi and Bush is a fascist, and all. They said crazy stuff. But there was at least, it seemed, more of an effort — at least it seemed to me — to pretend that they were still journalists. And now it feels like it’s just all-out propaganda from some of the biggest news networks in the country. Has it gotten a lot worse, are we just more aware of it? What do you think?

FLEISCHER: It’s a million times worse. It was bad. When I was there, I always knew that the press was liberal, and I had to work twice as hard just to get the same starting point as any Democrat. But now, holy cow. They have become activists. And what’s happened in the news media is they have turned themselves into a slice of America that can only understand another slice of America and as college-educated Democrats. It’s way beyond liberal/conservative.

The issue is cultural. There’s a study I found, an actual study, a poll that says the only group of Americans who think that the mainstream media understand them are college-educated Democrats. Everybody in America with a high school degree says the press can’t understand them. Independents, college degree or high school degree, the press doesn’t understand them. Republicans of all stripes, the press doesn’t understand them.

One group left: College-educated Democrats. So, culturally you’ve got a group of people who talk to a fellow similar slice of America, and it’s no wonder that people who go to church every Sunday or who own guns and whose parents, father or grandfather taught them how to hunt, or people who think life begins at conception are looked down on by so much of the media. They just don’t understand half of America.

CLAY: Ari, do you think that’s Twitter? You mentioned that it’s gotten far worse — and I think it’s likely true — and certainly as you know I come from the world of sports which has just lost it is ever-loving mind when it comes to these issues. Is it that Twitter is such an echo chamber for these journalists and reporters that they think it’s the real world and aren’t aware of the 80% of people every day who aren’t sitting around on Twitter or that 98% of people who are not sending tweets sharing their opinions and it’s so far left wing that they’ve allowed that to journalistically destroy their attempt to even cover the nation as a whole? Or is it something else? I think you can tell by my question I think it’s Twitter, but do you attribute it to something else? What’s happened?

FLEISCHER: Twitter is a part of it, Clay. But I think the antecedent was there before Twitter. And that was as soon as the media started to move on to the internet and newspapers started to lose advertising dollars, when you were an advertiser, you didn’t want your newspaper to have partisanship, to be one way or another. You need to appeal to everybody because you were an advertiser.

Advertising has stopped in newspapers. So, now they get their money from subscribers. So, the subscribers to the New York Times, for example — and I have a chapter on the New York Times in here. Subscribers to the New York Times counted on the New York Times to resist Donald Trump. If the New York Times wrote stories that were fair or favorable to Trump, these people would cut off their subscriptions.

And it became huge controversies for the New York Times. Remember when Tom Cotton wrote a op-ed called, “Send in the Troops” during the riots of 2020. New York Times readers melted down, not to mention their newsroom melted down. ‘Cause you can’t have a conservative voice in the New York Times. So, the problem really is now we have slices of America that only want to talk to similar-minded slices of America.

And that is really the case on the left where they have just formed a resistance alliance, and that’s what led me to write the book because I was convinced how unfair they were to Donald Trump and to conservatives. And I wanted to blow the whistle. You know, I’ve criticized Donald Trump. I’ve praised Donald Trump. But I try to be fair. And my conclusion was that the American media stopped being fair.

BUCK: Speaking to Ari Fleischer, former White House press secretary. Book is out, Suppression, Deception, Snobbery, and Bias: Why the Press Gets So Much Wrong – And Just Doesn’t Care. As we’re talking about this, I just saw a tweet pop up in my timeline, Ari, from Matt Taibbi who is a man of the left but I think you’d say is kind of an old school investigative journalist.

He chases stories and tells them as he sees them even if they upset his own side. He just wrote this as you were talking.

“The Times fulfills the same function that Izvestia once served,” this is New York Times, “telling us little that’s useful about breaking news events but giving us comprehensive, if coded, portraits of the thinking of the leadership class.” What do you think of that?

FLEISCHER: Absolutely right, and Matt believes in free speech. Matt is a very interesting reporter. He gets it. He is liberal. He was raised in that environment as a reporter. But he is old school, almost ACLU that he believes in free speech and that people should be entitled to their opinion. And he’s right. This is the problem with the intelligentsia, the snobbery. You know, my book begins with a Don Lemon show on CNN in which he and his two guests relentlessly mocked people who were for Donald Trump.

It was no longer about Trump. It was the people who were for Trump. They put on fake Southern accents. They ridiculed people who were for Trump. They just looked down their noses at them. And then Don Lemon ended the segment with laughing uproariously after he caught his breath, he said, “Thanks. I needed that.”

How people at CNN can think that it’s good for journalism to make fun of half the country, I will never understand. But that’s what’s happened in too many of these institutions. This is why they don’t understand the American people, particularly half the American people, and they’re left to a college-educated Democrat audience pretty much the only ones left who trust them.

CLAY: Ari, you worked in the White House communications office. What do you think conversations are like right now inside of the Biden White House, behind the closed doors, right, when they are not actually talking to journalists or trying to shape and control the narrative? How much panic do you think there is about their inability to put Joe Biden in front of the American public? What is their discussion like, based on your experience?

FLEISCHER: I hate to say it, but it’s a lot like what it was like at the end of the Bush administration in 2006, ’07, and ’08, when President Bush was very unpopular, when the war in Iraq seemed to be going badly, when the financial crisis hit. You know, there’s just a sense of the staff that there’s nothing we can do that will go right, that there’s really something wrong. “The country has turned on us and we can’t give a speech.

“We can’t put out a fact sheet. We can’t write an op-ed. None of it will make a difference. And in the case of the Biden administration, it’s because of the decisions, the judgment that President Biden has made and has shown. So, for the staff the job is miserable. It just takes morale away, the days are long, the psychic income that you normally get from being in that rarefied air, you’re gasping for breath. It’s no longer rarefied air.

BUCK: Ari, you know, I was a CNN contributor before the era of Trump and left of my own volition because I knew under the Trump presidency what that was going to be like. They were not interested anymore in having pro-Trump voices on their air. And I feel like over the course of about 18 months or so of that 2016 campaign, you know, stretching back into the primary, that CNN effectively had a televised nervous breakdown as an institution.

One, do you think that’s a fair description? Because they went from, “Yeah, we’ll have…” They didn’t like me as a conservative but they were like, “Well, if you’re reasonable and you know some stuff and you can represent the point of view,” to, “Oh, no, we’re not putting the henchman of the evil fascist Trump regime on air!” Do you think that’s…? Did you see that happen too — and CNN, effectively, is it no longer an institution that can exist because it’s shown everybody what it really is and so it’s based on a fundamental lie?

FLEISCHER: Yeah, and I used to be a contributor to CNN in the 2012 election cycle, the year that Obama beat Romney. I always knew they were liberal. I always knew all the questions were slanted and it was a home game for the Ds. But it didn’t have the level of vindictiveness and overt opinion given on the air even by the reporters that it does now. And that’s part of the problem with CNN. Their new owners, they’re saying they’re gonna try to do things differently. I hope so. But my book cites a guy named Jimmy Gagliano, a former FBI special agent, a real true badass.

BUCK: Yeah, I know Jimmy. He’s a friend of mine. Good man.

FLEISCHER: Great guy. And he was a CNN contributor. And he went down there and he was originally critical of Donald Trump for the way Trump fired Comey. Gagliano had no special like for Comey, but he thought the way Trump fired him was wrong and he said so on the air. And CNN loved booking him. Until he started to see the Strzok memos, the Peter Strzok memos, until he started to see what FBI got wrong and then Gagliano started to turn on his own agency, the FBI.

He started to defend Trump. And you know what happened to him? He got moved to CNN Headline News to talk about murders. They loved him so long as he was bashing Trump and supporting Comey. As soon as he started to speak his mind ’cause the evidence led him in that direction as a FBI special agent, they got rid of the guy. And so, Jimmy filled me in, and there’s a whole section about how bad CNN was to Jimmy, a CNN contributor, all because, as he put it, as long as you bash Trump, you can do to whatever you want to CNN —

BUCK: Well, Ari, it may have been the case that the original CNN nervous breakdown happened because of my cohost here, Mr. Clay Travis, if you trace it all the way back.

FLEISCHER: You caused a few nervous breakdowns there, Clay.

CLAY: Yeah, a few over the years. Ari, I’m curious ’cause Buck, I think, has bought in now — you have straddled the — you’re a big sports fan. So, you have, in addition to working in politics, you have represented the college football playoff. You now represent or have represented the LIV golf tour as they have tried to launch against the PGA. How have you found the media in sports in sports compared to the media in politics, and what is your analysis of the vociferous sports media attempts to attack and take down the LIV golf tour? Obviously, we’ve got Joe Biden going to Saudi Arabia soon. Kind of take us into those worlds as you see it.

FLEISCHER: Well, I think most sports reporters — and I’ve run a sports communications company. This is what I’ve been doing since I left the White House in all kinds of sports and leagues and organizations. Most sports reporters just want to cover the sport. But when the news does make it off the sporting page and onto the front page, I think a lot of the same tendencies I’m telling you about that are left-right tendencies in the mainstream media exist in the sports media too.

I think it’s just… There’s self-selection in journalism, even sports journalism. Most people who go into journalism are from the left. And one of the lessons of my book is conservatives should get into the media. We really need more balanced newsrooms. It’d be good and be healthy. But political reporters are much closer to wanting to be activists. I don’t think sports reporters want to be political activists. They may have favorite teams or favorite players and that shows up in their writings, but they’re a bit different from political reporters.

CLAY: How would you…? Just to follow up on that, the LIV golf tour is now underway. We’ve got a ton of people including Buck’s dad who are big fans of golf who watch and consume golf-related coverage. How would you assess the way that the LIV tour’s launch has been covered, where they are now, what exactly is going on now from your perspective?

FLEISCHER: I think it’s a 50-50 split, Clay. I think there are some reporters who are very fair who are covering this as a fascinating new possibility in the world of sports, and they’re watching LIV golf grow and are very fair. I think there’s another half that have their mind made up that the PGA is and should be the only golf tour and that anybody who tries to create a new way of playing golf — even to give golfers their rights as independent agents, as free agents or independent contractors — is out of line. And I think that’s especially the case where reporters will say if you get your funding from Saudi Arabia, there’s something wrong with you, just despite the fact that, you know, the public investment fund of Saudi Arabia funds Uber, Facebook, Boeing, you name it, plus we put gas in our car that portion of it comes back Saudi Arabia. So, it’s a 50-50 split.

CLAY: Ari, the book is fantastic. I’ve got it. I’ve started to read it. I’d encourage everybody to check it out. We appreciate the time. Hope to talk to you again soon.

FLEISCHER: Thanks for having me, guys. I really appreciate it.

BUCK: Thanks, Ari.

CLAY: That’s Ari Fleischer.

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Is Elon Just Trying to Get Twitter at a Discount?

12 Jul 2022

BUCK: Elon Musk may still purchase Twitter, we think, possibly, maybe. We’ll get into some of that in a moment here. There are some pretty, I think, outlandish claims being made by people about the process of trying to buy one of the biggest social media platforms out there. Here is David Faber over at CNBC.

Clay, I want to just break this part of it down for a second and then talk about what the bigger dynamics are here. And then Elon and Trump going a little back-and-forth. That was interesting. You got some heavyweights taking some online slugs at each other. But here is CNBC’s David Faber. Play this one.

FABER: They have specific performance in the contract. They are going to have a Delaware judge enforce that contract and say, “These are the reasons why.” Most of the people that you speak with, certainly that I have, believe that that, in fact, will be the case. Then the question is, “Well, okay. You’re forcing Mr. Musk to buy the company. Does he actually agree to do it?” There’s this argument being said lately that, well, maybe he won’t comply with that. Well, then we’d have a situation, they could put him in jail.

BUCK: Put him in jail? They’re gonna put him in jail? Clay, what is this?

CLAY: Yeah, look. There’s no way that this is going to lead to jail time. I also don’t believe in specific performance. For those of you out there who are not familiar with the legal concept of specific performance, sometimes — Buck, you bought houses over the years — if you sign a contract to buy a house, and then you try to back out of it — depending what that deal might look like from a contractual perspective — you might be required to specifically perform.

And/or the person who agreed to sell is it to you might be required to specific to perform because we, for instance, consider real estate to be so unique that it’s not easy to replicate somewhere else. I’ve never heard of someone being required… I think David Faber is hundred percent wrong here. I’ve never heard of specific performance being applied as it pertains to a $44 billion purchase.

What I believe is likely to happen is this thing is going to go into court; there are gonna be a lot of lawyers that make a lot of money, Buck. It’s good to be on this case if you’re a lawyer. But they’re going to reach some form of compromise below the $54.20-per-share purchase price. I think Elon Musk gonna get a discount based on some of the things that he’s uncovered surrounding the Twitter business, ’cause I don’t think Twitter has a lot of options here. And if you look at the stock price it is back up $1.40 today, suggesting — suggesting — that maybe there’s going to be… $54.20 was the purchase price, maybe they agree at $42 purchase price, I think that’s the most likely outcome here, 40, 42, 38, something like that.

BUCK: Yeah. There are people are saying that Elon’s concern over the bots — the computer programs posing as actual accounts all over Twitter — and that there are too many and that that affects the value. And I’m sure that’s true, but I think it’s also true that he was way overpaying in that initial offer for what Twitter is actually worth as a company — and it’s fascinating, I think, when you think back to how the initial reaction of the Twitter board and CEO was, “Oh, my gosh! This is so horrible!

“It’s like Attila the Hun is invading and taking us over.” You know, it’s this terrible thing. When they were getting… This is like if somebody says, “Hey, your house is worth 250K, I’ll give you 500 for it,” and you’re like, “How dare you, sir!” It’s crazy how they reacted to his top-dollar offer. It just goes to show you how ideologically invested the current management is in this company staying as a province of the woke left and staying as a tilted playing field for Democrats.

CLAY: Yeah. And, Buck, I think it’s also emblematic of — to your point on the overevaluation of Twitter. So many stocks and companies have tanked as a result of the Joe Biden inflation and all of the challenges currently existing in our economy right now. It’s funny how quickly Twitter went from, “Oh, this is an existential threat to our company,” to now suing, demanding that Elon Musk purchase the company for the price that he agreed to buy the company for.

Because the reality is they had an opportunity to go out to the open market and say, “Okay, Elon has offered $54.20 a share. Who also is gonna put a bid in?” No one did. And now the stock price is $20 below where Elon offered. If this completely falls apart, stock price goes back down into the twenties, and so I think they’re going to come to some sort of agreement at a lower price where Twitter acknowledges that some of the data that it has provided has not been a hundred percent accurate.

And Elon says, “Okay, I will still purchase it,” I would bet somewhere in the $38 to $42 range, if I were betting. Other possibilities… Again, we talked about specific performance. I don’t see it. I think Musk would end up having to pay several billion dollars in damages in order to get out of this deal. I think they agree to a price in the $38 to $42 range.

BUCK: You still think he buys this it, though —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — because I’m wondering if this in some way turns into years of litigation?

CLAY: It’s a money pit? I think that Delaware, they will resolve it within this calendar year. They typically have the sophisticated judges. Because so many companies are based there, they understand that time is of the essence in these court proceedings. So I don’t think this is the kind of case that drags on for two or three years. I think before the end of this year there will be a resolution.

BUCK: That’d be great because if Elon doesn’t buy Twitter, I don’t know how our Twitter experience is gonna go, Clay, once they start locking down parts of New York City again with the next variant — or not locking down, really, but mask mandates and all the rest of it. They haven’t. They haven’t backed off all this stuff. They haven’t decided that it’s all over.

I don’t just mean the covid things. It’s not like Twitter has agreed that they should stop censoring people. They haven’t agreed to that at all. They’ve decided to double down and tell everybody, “Yes, we think that there are responsible things that people can say on contentious political topics and there are things that you’re not allowed to say,” also known as being a conservative. So there you go.

CLAY: Remember when we were adding tens of thousands of Twitter followers in the immediate aftermath of Elon announcing that he was gonna buy Twitter and suddenly they stopped regulating?

BUCK: That was not because so many new people were signing up for Twitter, by the way, which was the storyline they told. It was they made a shift in the back end of the algorithm that allowed people to have full and organic reach — and that was a game change those of us who are operating there. We are always swinging the bat with the doughnut on it. That’s what’s it’s called, right?

CLAY: Yeah. That’s right. That’s a good sports analogy.

BUCK: Thank you, sir.

CLAY: And it has since vanished, right? I don’t know about you, but, like, when I look and go and check and see my follower account, it hasn’t really budged very much in the past several weeks, compared to what happened in the immediate aftermath of Musk potentially buying Twitter. And I think what was happening there was all the data analysts were scrambling to try to take all of the inappropriate filters and regulations — the doughnut on the bat, so to speak, in the analogy you just made — and they’re now trying to get back to some form of normalcy. It already seems like that normalcy has vanished and we’re back to far left-wing Twitter all over again.

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Another Steak Dinner Bet? Clay Predicts Biden Won’t Run in ’24

12 Jul 2022

BUCK: This is really interesting. I hadn’t seen it laid out this way before. This is from the data analyst over at FiveThirtyEight, Nate Silver, on presidential age, which we’re getting a lot of discussions about right now, with the 10 oldest presidents at inauguration, okay? Oldest at inauguration he’s got here. People talk about how Reagan was old. Reagan was 69 at inauguration, okay?

He’s the third oldest. Trump was actually in his seventies. He was older for a president. Most of the presidents, though, on the list of Top 10 are 61-62. Joe Biden’s 78 years and 61 days old the day that he took office. He took office almost as an 80-year-old. This is not just some Republican talking point. This is not something that, you know, we don’t like Biden’s policies. Folks, he is too old for the job now. He was too old then — and for a second term, it’s just reckless.

CLAY: Well, and remember, initially there was a lot of argument about the fact that Biden should say, “I’m only running for one term,” and then he refused and he’s tried to argue ever since that he’s going to be a two-term president. I think in the wake of the midterms, Buck, this is why I expect in February or March for Biden to announce he’s not going to run because I think he’s gonna get forced out by Democrats.

But also he doesn’t have any power once he loses control of Congress. So he is going to be a lame duck, regardless, and I just don’t see any way that Democrats… I’ve been referring to it as the Weekend at Bernie’s Part 2. I don’t see any way they can drag him across the finish line again. I think that that is going to be a failure. I think it is inconceivable that he could be the nominee, and slowly, all of a sudden —

BUCK: We’re gonna have to throw some steak dinner bets out there, Clay.

CLAY: You think he’s gonna be the nominee?

BUCK: I think if Trump announces, I think Biden thinks he can do it.

CLAY: I will put a steak dinner on the fact that Biden will not be the nominee in 2020.

BUCK: Let me think about my bet before we shake on it.

CLAY: I’ll put it on the line. Think about whether you want to put it on the line.

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LeBron: If I Were Brittney Griner, I’d Question Going Back to the U.S.

12 Jul 2022

CLAY: Buck, one of the consistently dumbest athletes in America when it comes to sharing his political opinions — and there’s a long list, let’s be honest — is LeBron James. LeBron James has been in the news a little bit associated with this Brittney Griner story because for those of you out there who don’t know, Brittney Griner, WNBA player, was arrested, as we have talked about on this show, for drug possession charges in Russia.

She is still there begging for Joe Biden to get her out. I believe the latest is that Bill Richardson, former New Mexico governor, is now in kind of geopolitical hostage negotiator-at-large is kind of the job that he seems to have now, is now traveling over to Russia potentially to try to get her out on behalf of the Biden administration. Well, one of the WNBA coaches said — and I think this is true — if it were LeBron James who had been arrested, he would already be out in Russia.

BUCK: Why do you think? Curious about this. Why do you think that’s true?

CLAY: I think the political pressure would have been way more intense to get LeBron out, and I think that Joe Biden would have had to do whatever it takes to get LeBron out. You think he’d still be there?

BUCK: I don’t think Joe Biden could get… With what’s going on with Russia right now, I don’t think he could get anybody out of Russia. That’s my take.

CLAY: I think the political pressure would have been so much that he would have to do whatever it takes to get LeBron out. But LeBron was asked about this on his own television show. Not live. Remember, LeBron has, I think, probably the dumbest statement of all time when he defended China in the wake of a former general manager in the NBA saying that Hong Kong deserved freedom and LeBron James said the First Amendment was a bad thing.

I mean, he basically bowed down to Chairman Mao and to the leader right now certainly of China, Chairman Xi, and said, “Hey, I’ll do whatever you want, Blessed Leader there!” Well, now he says — I think we’ve got a short segment here from LeBron. This is an HBO show that he does called The Shop where he sits around in a barbershop and opines on all different sorts of issues. Says he doesn’t even want to know if he’d want to come back to America if he had been arrested in Russia.

Here’s LeBron, political thought leader extraordinaire.

CLAY: “Do I even want to go back to America?” So, I guess LeBron would either stay in Russia, maybe Siberia would be nice for LeBron and his family to relocate to, or he would go to another country. But what does he expect? She violated Russian law. She’s pled guilty to it. Why is it America’s fault that she’s in a Russian prison?

BUCK: Clay, this is why so many people get very agitated with ultra-famous, ultra-rich professional athletes, actors. The lack of gratitude for the country that they live in that has created the possibility for them to be so wealthy —

CLAY: A billionaire.

BUCK: A billionaire.

CLAY: LeBron is a billionaire just because he’s good at sports.

BUCK: Yes. And has created that and protects their wealth, you know, the police officers that protect their residence and their day-to-day lives, the truck drivers who make sure there’s food in the store for them, the mail couriers. I mean, you look at all these people that it functions so well in America. This is actually… I know we talk about the problems here. This place and anybody…

I’ve spent months and months of my life in different places in the true Third World that were really full of despair and poverty, and anybody who sees what it’s like in other parts of the world I think they have an even greater appreciation for how amazing this country is. And that’s just to be an American. That’s just table steak to even be… It’s amazing to even be here. There’s a reason why people are coming here — you know, legally, illegally — in the huge numbers they do.

LeBron James says something; I know it’s flippant and he’s trying to make some kind of a point about how he’s so disappointed in America for not being able to get Brittney Griner out of Russia at this point. But it goes into a larger context of statements that really do feel like from LeBron and from other athletes, celebrities, celebrities in general, they just don’t appreciate this place. I mean, you get the sense that a lot of really rich celebrities are spoiled brats. They do not love this country.

They’ve been given so much by this country. I think that’s one of the reasons why people, why the Pat Tillman decision to go serve in the Army Rangers, for example, and leave, what was it, $3 million contract behind to serve his country after 9/11, you know, in the NFL. Obviously unfortunately was, you know, terrible situation unfolded in Afghanistan with Pat. But point here being, we like to see that people actually appreciate the country that has made them so rich and influential.

CLAY: LeBron’s a billionaire. This is emblematic of why I’ve argued — and, Buck, you’ve seen it; most people have not. If every single American at 18 years old had to go live in a Peace Corps-like environment, in a Third World country for one year, you had to go to a poor country in Africa or a poor country the Asia or a poor country in Latin America and you had to do some form of service for one year.

I think that almost every single American who did that, when they came back to the United States, would understand and appreciate anew how phenomenally fortunate we all are to live here. And that’s why I believe Republicans have an incredible opportunity in 2022 and in 2024 because everyone who comes to America that wasn’t born here is coming here for one reason: Because America’s awesome.

Buck, you and I were talking about the degree to which even super rich people in other countries, they want to buy American properties — New York City, Miami, L.A. — huge estates because they trust that unlike in their country, they are going to be able to have title to that property, and it isn’t going to be taken away from them just because the guy who gets elected president next in their country doesn’t like them. We are the envy of the world.

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Hawley Called Transphobic for Saying Only Women Can Get Pregnant

12 Jul 2022

CLAY: This show. We spend a lot of time talking about fighting for sanity in an insane world. Buck, I would have never believed that we would be in a position where we’d be saying, “Hey, only women can have babies.” I would have never thought that that would be considered to be unacceptable or transphobic language at any point in my life. Today in the Senate, Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri — who’s been on this show quite a lot; we’re fans of his.

He was questioning a Cal Berkeley law professor. Her name is — I want to make sure I get this right, although I might mispronounce it — Khiara Bridges. I just want you to listen to this audio between the two of them because I think it crystallizes how far left-wing Democrats have gone when it comes to the trans agenda. They want to say that “people” can get pregnant, not women — that men can get pregnant — and it’s actually transphobic of you and me and anybody else out there who suggests that only women can get pregnant.

Listen to this exchange today in the Senate.

BUCK: There’s so much here, Clay.

CLAY: We got more that we’re gonna play for you too, I think, as well. But, Buck, I mean, this is crazy.

BUCK: This is, though, argument of the left today. This is their orthodoxy. This is doctrine. This is a law professor from California — University of California Berkeley.

CLAY: An elite law school.

BUCK: A tough law school to get into although, as we know. Now the entire… I’ll just say this. The entire elite school apparatus has collapsed into nonsense effectively. There are morons at all of these places, now, let me tell you, okay? There are idiots everywhere. I was looking at Ivy League business schools and I went to work for Glenn instead.

Jackasses aplenty there, law schools, I have tons of friends that went to Harvard Law, Yale Law, all these places, there are really smart people who go there, but it does not mean that everybody who goes there is of even a mildly impressive intellectual level at these different schools. So, just start with that nor fin who’s wondering. Clay and I were just wondering, where do you want your kids to even go to school?

CLAY: I think about it a lot now.

BUCK: I don’t know what to say because the professors at some of these institutions — and look, they’ve changed hiring standards. They have pushed very hard in affirmative action in higher education. I think it will be interesting to look back and see that when the Supreme Court I do believe will overturn affirmative action —

CLAY: This fall.

BUCK: — then what you’ll have to deal with — what you’ll have to see — is that these universities have put all these people on tenure track or given them tenure who would never have been hired otherwise because they do change standards. We all know they change standards. That’s the reality of the college admissions and hiring process. What does it look like for higher education?

But that’s a conversation we’ll be having when that Supreme Court decision comes down. On what she says, though, this is fascinating. “One-out-of-five trans people have attempted suicide,” she says. She cites that statistic to shut down a conversation about who can get pregnant. And normally you would look and you would say, “So are you telling me that there’s a high correlation between being trans and having severe mental illness?

“Or are you blaming anyone who does not go along with all aspects of the trans agenda with somehow creating the extreme mental illness that leads to A disproportionately high suicide attempt rate?” That would be one part of this that I would want to have a greater discussion with. But also note that when the left says, you’re opening people up to violence by disagreeing with us!

Not only are they trying to silence people that disagree — that’s, of course, meant to emotionally batter you into submission — it also, though, opens the grounds for the state to use force, actual force against you because if your speech is actually violence; it is, therefore, justified for the state to threaten or use violence against you to stop your speech as in arresting people for hate crime speech that the trans community finds so offensive, et cetera, et cetera. The argument is very clear. This is what they believe. This is what the left believes. This is not aberrant.

CLAY: Yeah. The Cal Berkeley professor specifically says men can get pregnant and says that it is transphobic to argue that men cannot get pregnant. You are being forced as a part of this Democrat dogma now to say things that are 100 percent scientific, biological lies. And to me, Buck, what is so fascinating about this is, how much did you and I get lectured for being anti-science for questioning the efficacy of the covid shot or the intelligence of lockdowns? You and I got absolutely lacerated by the blue checks for having the gal to suggest that lockdowns and mandatory vaccines and all of this did not make sense. We wanted grandmas dead; we were anti-science. And yet the Democrat dogma now is men can get pregnant.

BUCK: I could set this up as a very straightforward challenge for the people that make this argument. And understand, you must mouth the preferred slogans or else they will attack you. Macy Gray just went through this, the Grammy award-winning, you know, millionaire famous singer. She said a woman is a woman, and thinking you’re a woman doesn’t make you a woman. Very straightforward. She’s a hundred percent correct.

And now she’s had to do the whole walk-back because the left completely, you know, jumped on her, attacked her from every direction and every angle. They want you to affirm what is clearly untrue because it debases your ability to reason through everything else. When you have to say — by the way, this is classic tactic. If you listen to that professor, she does sound like she’s in a cult.

With the fluidity that she is making these statements that are so obviously untrue and stupid, it would be like sitting there with somebody who says, no, you don’t understand. We’ve done all the research, and the world is going to end next week. We have looked at the sacred charts and the sacred charts tell us that that’s when the magic aliens are going to land here, and the world ends in a ball of fire. There’s a certainty in the stupidity that almost shows you the synapses of the brain have been lined up in a very specific way through repetition of what is untrue.

CLAY: Also, I would love for Senator Hawley in addition to being called transphobic for saying that only women can get pregnant, I would love for him to follow up with this UC Berkeley professor and actually expose the flaws of logic in her line of thinking based on this, Buck. If you can pick your gender — to her, I would love to hear her trying to answer this — why can’t you also pick your race?

Because she’s a black woman. And she would be furious under Democrat dogma if someone who was not black decided they wanted to identify as black or someone who was not Hispanic wanted to identify as Hispanic or Asian or whatever it is, your racial identity as we have talked about is set in stone, per Democrat dogma, but your gender can be whatever you want it to be?

BUCK: And think about it as well. They use the term “nonbinary,” meaning neither specifically male or specifically female. There’s a binary choice of gender that we’ve lived with for all of human history and science, et cetera, et cetera. Now they say nonbinary. But we know that everyone is effectively multiracial, that every one of us is in fact at different levels and degrees multiracial or multiethnic in our background, which is a beautiful thing.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: But it’s much more open. A perfect example of this: Kamala Harris is referred to as both the first African-American female vice president and the first south Asian female vice president in terms of her background, right? Because one parent is I believe from —

CLAY: India.

BUCK: — from India and another parent’s from Jamaica. Now, that’s true. Great. Fine. But there’s clearly more variability in racial and ethnic background that all of us have, anyone who’s done 23andMe knows this, than gender variability. And remember they’re not making –’cause they’ll often try to confuse us on purpose — “Intersex,” as a physical reality, is not the case that they are making ’cause even people who are intersex they used to refer to this as being a hermaphrodite condition. They’re generally more one than the other but they can have vestigial organs.

CLAY: It’s incredibly rare biologically.

BUCK: It’s like a one in a million circumstance.

CLAY: Some people are born with sex organs that would suggest I think it’s like Klein syndrome, something like that, unless I’m misremembering it from biology, but that is a reality. It’s wildly uncommon and almost instantly they make a decision, oh, we’re going to raise this child as either male or female based on which one they are more likely to be reflective of.

BUCK: But this is not… The trans agenda and the trans doctrine is not, “We need to specifically understand.” Most of those individuals end up living as male or female and —

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: That is not what they’re saying, though. What they’re saying is the physical reality is irrelevant. You can have entirely developed, you know, male testes and sex organs, everything else, and now you are to be treated not as somebody who is emotionally and psychologically associated with the female gender but as a woman, period. There’s a degree of religiosity in this that people need to understand. It’s a little bit like you have to accept that there is a miracle of science that has transpired here and that’s how you get to “men can get pregnant”, because they can’t, and we will never lose this bet, Clay.

CLAY: Not only that, it has real consequences oftentimes. Let’s say that you are having to be rushed to an emergency room and they’re trying to figure out what’s wrong with you. Pretending that you’re a different gender than you are changes the way that you will be treated. Right? Because the doctor is responding, oh, what could be wrong? Well, if you have an ovary, something might be different than if you don’t. Men and women have different biologies which often leads to different things that could be wrong with them when they’re rushed into a hospital. But this is emblematic. I think playing that clip is important because that is Democrat dogma.

BUCK: And she also — it’s very clear — despises Josh Hawley for the most basic recitation of fact.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: Everyone needs to get used to this. Obviously, Macy Gray learned this the hard way, which is you can now be hated by people who want to ruin you and make an example of you for saying something that is as objectively true as 2 + 2 = 4.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: People will say, how dare you. It equals five! You should get fired from your job. And it’s not just us, it’s not just adults. They’re doing this to kids. They’re doing this to very young children. They’re pushing this all over the place. This is a societal madness, and this is why we say, “man, we’re living on Team Reality here.”

CLAY: They’re arguing, Buck, that sometimes doctors get the sex of a baby wrong. That’s what they’re —

BUCK: — offensive to doctors. Like, the doctor made quite a mistake there!

CLAY: Yeah, right. I’ve been there for three babies. I felt pretty confident when they came out what sex they were.

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Another Lie: Biden Tells Fake Story About 10-Year-Old Rape Victim

12 Jul 2022

Update to This Story : An Illegal Alien Did Rape A 10-Year-Old In Ohio

BUCK: They’re not gonna focus on polls in this White House.

BUCK: That was the press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre. People, it’s KJP. There’s AOC. Is KJP now the common moniker?

CLAY: The common moniker?

BUCK: Yeah, I think we can start to say KJP, use the initials. Because Karine Jean-Pierre is a bit of a mouthful, and you’ve got to hit the accent properly, Clay.

CLAY: Not gonna work for me. But she’s saying don’t worry the polls. They’re not worried about the polls. They’re just gonna deliver. Now, what’s interesting about that is what exactly are they delivering for the American people? That’s where the next question should be or that’s where the direction of the conversation should go. The answer that everybody sees is they’re not. They’re not delivering. And that’s why they’ve turned directly into what the left sometimes calls culture war issues.

When they’re losing on them or they think it’s a liability they call it a culture war issue, because they want to blame something else, but you have guns and abortion. These are two… It’s like we’re reliving the nineties here, watching the show The West Wing with Aaron Sorkin, a lot of guns and abortion stuff on that show. At least in the first season. I never watched beyond that.

You know, if we could get a federal handgun control law is gonna stop all the violence. I remember… If you want to really solid dose of liberal sanctimony circa, you know, 2000, you turn on The West Wing, you’d get it really fast. But here is Joe Biden specifically on… Well, actually, let’s do the abortion discussion first because Joe Biden is out there telling people — and recently cited this in a speech — that there was the case of a 10-year-old girl who was unable to get an abortion in Ohio, and this is to support the Democrat push for a federal codifying of abortion at some level.

Here’s Joe Biden.

BUCK: Clay, this is obviously meant to have real emotional impact on the American people. The problem with the story is that according to the attorney general, the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Ohio, there is not any evidence whatsoever of this having occurred. Are we missing something here?

CLAY: No. I think you’re right. You may have noticed also that Joe Biden misspoke there. He was the girl was girl was gonna “terminate the presidency” when he meant “terminate the pregnancy.” So Joe Biden can’t even use the analogy correctly.

BUCK: He can misspeak, but he didn’t correct it. He says these things, it’s like he doesn’t hear them, but keeps going.

CLAY: And the data reflects that this has never happened. And for those of you out there who haven’t paid attention, they have been grilling Republican politicians on what their position is on this particular hypothetical, even though it appears to have not occurred because a rape of a 10-year-old would be a crime. So the attorney general of Ohio was on with Jesse Watters last night on Fox News and said not only is there zero evidence that this has occurred…

And there would be an obligation on behalf of a health care provider to report this if it occurred because it’s a crime. And the second part of this is, if you are in that situation in Ohio, you would be able to get an abortion. In other words, a 10-year-old girl — God forbid, that happens — ends up being pregnant via rape, she is allowed to not have that child. So, everything that Joe Biden said in that event discussing abortion laws around that 10-year-old is all a lie.

He got every single aspect of that wrong, and this emblematic of what’s going on right now. Of course, the White House wanted to have a disinformation board, Buck. But they never want to actually get called into account for all of the failures they… You probably saw last Friday when Biden said “repeat the line” after saying “end quote” during his speech on Friday. They came out and said, “Oh, no, he was saying, ‘Let me repeat the line.’” No, he wasn’t! That’s not what he said at all. He said, “repeat the line.” So they lie all of the time, and most often it’s never actually disputed at all.

BUCK: This reminds me. I remember I read a while ago that the Soviets, after the period of the purges under Stalin in some of the archives of the KGB and the internal security apparatus, instead of just… Originally they were blacking out names, effectively just striking through names that they wanted to pretend didn’t actually exist anywhere, and then they got to the point where they were using little razor blades to formally remove the name from the page.

Just going to extreme lengths to change the record in the most thorough way possible, and it seems like this White House is willing to lie in official White House transcripts in order to convince people that what we all know was said is not in fact what was said. It also reminds me, do you remember the AP got into trouble years ago during an Obama speech because they transcribed… He cut off, clipped some words at the end, and they actually transcribed them as missing the G at the end or whatever.

I think he said like “stop crying” or “stop cryin'” and they did an apostrophe; people consider that to be wrong. You do not actually report the way the president said it. You don’t actually report it in a way that they said it, because for them it’s not about the truth, it’s about the perception that driven by all this. And Joe Biden all along has been essentially a presidency that has rested on the ability of the Democrat-aligned media to create a perception of somebody who’s — as I’ve said — is not a nice guy, and he’s a jerk, and he’s a liar. This is the guy who is telling people — does he ever express any sorrow for all the people who were fired for his dumbass vaccine mandate? No.

CLAY: I would also say, in regards to this 10-year-old girl story, the complicity of the media deserves to be discussed to a large extent because they allowed the existence of this story to be accepted as fact, and then built upon the existence of this story accepted as fact as evidence to build further stories the very foundation upon which…

And I saw CNN’s Dana Bash went after Kristi Noem over how she would handle this situation in her state if it happened in South Dakota like it happened in Ohio. Well, that entire foundational question is predicated on a lie. And I don’t think we can underrate that they want the story to be true because it advances their narrative, even if the story is not true at all.

BUCK: And it is worth asking: Why is it that the national media focus is on — the untrue but let’s put that aside — the extreme circumstance of a 10-year-old who would have been assaulted and that’s the story we’re supposed to focus on, not, what about the vast majority of abortions that are conducted in the country, which are by people who are adults and who have consented and who just decide we don’t want you to have baby?

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: Defend that. Let’s actually have a conversation about what’s really going on, people who are 25, people who are 30, people who are 35, saying, “I just don’t want to have a baby right now.” That’s the actual abortion conversation that needs to happen.

CLAY: Not wanting to have a baby in the third trimester. Focus on the 30-year-old who decides she doesn’t want to have a baby when she’s seven or eight months pregnant, not the 10-year-old because —

BUCK: Well, even the Mississippi law, though, is 15 weeks, right?

CLAY: Yeah, right.

BUCK: And the vast majority of the American people are actually on board with the 15 weeks. It’s not just third trimester.

CLAY: Yeah, no doubt. The data reflects… But if you’re going to be using hypotheticals, that you will see use a 10-year-old, first of all, thankfully, almost no 10-year-old can get pregnant, right? The number of 10-year-olds that are capable of getting pregnant is infinitesimally small, thankfully. And then to be pregnant by a rape? I mean, all of these are incredibly detailed, awful aspects of a pregnancy. And it appears that there is not evidence to support that it actually occurred at all.

BUCK: Does Joe Biden care? Is he gonna update the story? She gonna follow up and say…?

CLAY: Is he even gonna be asked about it by anybody else? Of course not. The media doesn’t for the most part do their job. It’s embarrassing.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: I wanted to play this quick cut here. When a story like this, which is virtually unverified, came out of the Indianapolis Star about this 10-year-old girl having to cross state lines, Ohio would have allowed her to have a abortion — because she had been raped — under state law, according to the Ohio attorney general. But I want you to see how quickly this spread with virtually no confirmation that it was real. This is CNN with one of their hosts grilling South Dakota governor Kristi Noem about this hypothetical. Listen.

CLAY: We can cut this off. I just wanted everybody out there to recognize — because some of you may not have heard this story recognized how much it infiltrated all of the discussion surrounding abortion. Buck, this was was everywhere. And now it appears, at least based on the Ohio attorney general, who would have had to investigate anything like this, and medical professionals would have had an obligation to turn this over in the event of a rape to let it be known that this had occurred, that this crime had occurred. There’s zero evidence that it actually did happen in the state of Ohio.

BUCK: I believe the initial source for the news report is also believed to be a health care practitioner who is a outspoken abortion supporter.

CLAY: That’s correct.

BUCK: So that’s quite a coincidence, too, isn’t it?

CLAY: When the facts all line up, it feels a bit like the Jussie Smollett case where the facts are all lining up in a way that would be incredibly beneficial in their mind to that argument. We’ve got a caller, I think, Buck, who wants to weigh in.

BUCK: Jenny in New Orleans. She’s an attorney and a mom of three. Hey, Jenny, you wanted to weigh in.

CALLER: Hi! Good morning, guys. Yes, I just wanted to weigh in. I’m an attorney and a mother of three, and when I first… This news story popped up on a liberal news feed that I don’t subscribe to but, you know, they pop up on your phone. And when I saw it, of course even being a conservative, you know, when I saw “a 10-year-old rape victim,” I was distraught! And then when I’m listening to your show today and hear that this is a fabricated story, it is just says (sigh) that the left has sunk to the lowest of the lows, to fabricate such a horrific story to prove an agenda.

CLAY: So, I should say, the corroborating evidence to support it does not exist, right? So how exactly this came to be a story? It came out of the Indianapolis Star, but Ohio has said there is zero evidence that this has occurred — and also that the child would be able to have an abortion in the state. So the underlying idea of they had to travel to Indiana, none of it is supported.

BUCK: A hundred percent. So everyone’s clear, Biden lied about the second part of the story, which is the need for travel of the 10-year-old that they reportedly said had been raped and was pregnant. The part before that about the actual existence of the story in the first place… So Biden lied. Even the part before that, as of now, the attorney general for the state of Ohio has said there’s no evidence.

There’s no evidence to corroborate this news report. If there is more, we will come back, we’ll update. If it turns out this did happen, but what Biden said is 100% not true. So that’s… Just be clear, that’s the part we can say is a lie. The part about whether this ever happened? It looks suspect based on the top law enforcement official in the state of Ohio in response to a news report. If it does turn out that this happened, we’ll come back and tell you that it happened.

CLAY: And I do think Jenny’s call is important, if Jenny’s still there, because, these are the kind of things, Buck, that echo through mom communities in a unique way. And when that happens, there are so many suburban women out there who are swing voters, right? I mean, there are a lot of people listening to us right now that are saying, “Hey, I’m gonna vote for the Republican no matter what.” There are also a lot of swing voters, and many of those swing voters are women, and they’re trying to use this abortion ruling as an opportunity to pull them away from Republicans.

BUCK: This is why we just have to remind everybody, “Okay. So what is CNN trying to say here?” CNN is effectively trying to say, “Oh, they’re so extreme that a 10-year-old who is raped has to have a baby, therefore we need laws in all 50 states that say for nine months of a pregnancy from an adult who consents, that’s a fundamental right.”

Right? You see, there’s this huge shift that happens right away. There… Okay, a lot of states have rape and incest exceptions, a lot of states. Minneapolis’s a 15-week ban. So why we even talking about this? Because they take an extreme, emotional incident and try to use that to expand to nine months for consenting adults for any reason or no reason. That’s what they actually want.

CLAY: That’s right, and they also want to scare moms into thinking if your 10-year-old daughter got raped, she’d have to have a baby.

BUCK: Of course.

CLAY: And that is designed to pull away suburban women like Jenny who’s an attorney — smart, mom of three — in Louisiana. These things echo and spread through the mom community very quickly, oftentimes even if they’re untrue or unfounded in corroborating evidence of fact.

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Remember When Dems Threw a Fit Over Trump’s Taco Bowl Tweet?

12 Jul 2022

CLAY: Neglected to mention, Buck, happy Taco Tuesday to Jill Biden! It would be really funny if she just… Remember when Trump tweeted out the picture of him, like, on, was it Cinco de Mayo?

BUCK: With the taco bowl from Trump Tower?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: Sure.

CLAY: Which was, I thought really funny showing that he had a sense of humor. She won’t do it because people will lose their minds.

BUCK: Just on a culinary note, Clay, I’ve never understood… I just feel like the soft taco is always better than the hard shell taco, but there’s some people out there who are big hard shell taco fans.

CLAY: Do you eat Taco Bell?

BUCK: I can’t —

CLAY: When was the last time you had Taco Bell?

BUCK. Oh, my God.

CLAY: Have you ever had Taco Bell?

BUCK: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I was a kid doing road trips with my family, used to get Taco Bell all the time. ‘Cause of the gluten thing, man, I’m a bad person to ask. I can’t have it.

CLAY: My boys are obsessed with Taco Bell. Like, if you told them right now if I went downstairs, they’re obviously home for the summer right now — and I said we can go to any fast food restaurant in the city, they would go Taco Bell in a heartbeat. And the reason you bring up the soft taco versus the hard taco, I’m a hard taco guy.

BUCK: You’re a hard taco guy.

CLAY: I like the hard taco —

BUCK: I had a feeling. Sometimes you go off the rails, Clay.

CLAY: So, it’s frustrating sometimes with the hard taco the way it crumbles. But — but I like it better ’cause the soft taco a lot of times gets soggy with the meat in it and everything else, and I don’t like the soggy taco.

BUCK: NYC team here is agreeing with you, by the way. They’re hard taco people too. I don’t know what’s going on. I got all my soft taco people out there saying, Buck, you know what’s right.

CLAY: I do. And let me give a shout-out to Taco Bell. They brought back the Mexican pizza. That was my go-to. And then they — then they canceled the Mexican pizza from their menu. The Mexican pizza is just fantastic. So, I’m glad they’ve got those back. But it would be really funny since it’s Taco Tuesday if Jill Biden kind of made fun of herself and was like, hey, excited to celebrate Taco Tuesday. Instead, she’s apologized to the Hispanic journalist community, has criticized her, and she just looks so incredibly incompetent. Don’t you think it would be funny if she posted a photo and she was like, hey, nobody’s perfect, but I’ve always loved Taco Tuesdays? I actually think —

BUCK: If she made — if this administration was smart, I think they would try to make a joke off out of it. Showing a little bit of humility and —

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: — just a little bit of —

CLAY: Humor.

BUCK: — like, normalcy would be a great thing in general, I think, for this White House. ‘Cause, you know, they always — they act like Trump was always so horrible. Trump, there was funny stuff going on all the time. It was actually amusing a lot of the time. Trump would laugh about things and, you know, there was the Jimmy Fallon tousling up the hair thing. But, no, they take themselves very seriously in this White House, even though everyone else thinks they’re a joke.

CLAY: That’s true. And I do think humor would register in a real way. Who was the last president that could do something that made you laugh? Obama actually was pretty good at delivering a joke. I thought Clinton was pretty good. George W. Bush I think had a pretty good sense of humor. But it feels to me — and I thought Trump at times leaned into sort of mocking the caricatures that existed around him. But I don’t feel like Biden has been able to at all. And I think that’s one of the big issues that he has, among many others. He’s just not a very likable person.

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