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Regime Freak Levine: Empower Kids to Change Gender, Be Afraid of Covid

19 Jul 2022

CLAY: Biden assistant secretary for health — this is a man who is now arguing that he is a woman, now known as Rachel Levine — it’s fair to say, right?

BUCK: A man. Name is Rachel Levine. It’s a man. Yeah.

CLAY: Yeah. I mean, the things that they are saying are pretty crazy. He said yesterday, she said yesterday, however you want to define it, we need to empower kids to change of their gender. Kids changing their gender. Listen to this.

LEVINE: So we really want to — to — to base our treatment and — and to affirm and to support and empower these views, not to limit their participation in activities to sports and even limit their ability to get gender affirmation treatment in their state.

CLAY: There you go. We need kids who are kids to be getting gender affirmation treatment. That means if you’re 14 or 15 years old — this is a Biden administration official — you’re 14 or 15 years old and you believe that you need to get puberty blockers or you need to start changing your gender, this is what should happen.

This is pretty radical, crazy things to be saying. Not even adults who are changing their gender, kids, and some kids who have barely hit puberty at all.

BUCK: If this is a medical issue, why do they keep changing all the terms? Why is it now gender affirmation surgery? I would also want to know, what would it be if somebody has that surgery and in this case kids — and let’s be clear, they have lied to you so much and gas lit you so much all these issues, everybody, because when we talk about it, when we engage, what do they do? “Why are you so focused on this? Why are you such a anti-trans bigot? It’s just about acceptance.”

No, this is about policy. This is coming from the White House. This is what they are advocating to be standard of care in the medical community– by the way, it’s a medical community that can’t afford any more politicization or being deeply wrong postcovid. That’s an aside.

But, Clay, what would it be if you wanted to go back afterwards? Is it even possible to go back after you’ve had your gender affirmation surgery? What do they say about people — and there are people — who deeply regret having had that — having had that — that surgery, that transformation, which cannot actually transform you into a woman.

They change the terms. It’s no longer gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder. You know, now they keep changing the language to make it seem like this is already a debate that’s happened in the public and we all agree that children should have puberty blockers. This is horrible. It’s going to sterilize people as they get older. It’s going to prevent them from having full sexual function as they get older. And we’re gonna trust 12-year-olds to make these decisions. And if you’re an adult that tries to stand athwart the madness, the Biden folks want to come after you. You’re the problem.

CLAY: I just would ask everybody out there, think about this in your own lives and your kids’ lives, grandkids’ lives, how often have you made a choice at 12 or 13 and then later regretted it to a great extent? Often, right?

I mean, that’s part of what being 12, 13, 14, 15-year-old is. You’re experimenting, you’re making choices without a fully developed consciousness, without an adult ability to discern fact, truth, and analyze things intelligently. That I say wild, crazy proposition to be putting out there, that kids who are under 18 should be receiving gender reassignment surgery. That’s where the Biden administration is. That’s what Rachel Levine is arguing for.

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BUCK: Lot of masks popping up here in NYC. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. You can tell the covid anxiety is rising among the libs. The face diapers are proliferating. People are turning back to the covid 1.0, “If we only just take it seriously, it’ll be okay. You got Biden assistant health secretary Rachel Levine — we just talked about this individual — saying covid is not done.

LEVINE: So we are certainly still concerned with covid-19. The pandemic is not done yet and we’re concerned, as you said, with the rise of it — particularly the BA.5 variant which seems to be the most contagious variant yet. But we know what works. We have the tools in the toolbox in order to address this, and that includes our safe and effective vaccines and boosters, as well as testing which is available throughout the country and then wearing masks, according to the CDC guidelines, depending upon the amount of community spread and the area in which you live.

BUCK: Yeah. So everyone needs to really pay close attention to those CDC bulletins to know what days they should mask, what days they shouldn’t mask. This is idiocy. It’s as though we’ve learned nothing, or they’ve learned nothing in two years, Clay.

CLAY: Yeah. And I think that’s where we are, frankly, is we’ve got men who now identify as women lecturing us with needing to follow the science. I mean, let’s be honest here.

And I don’t understand how the public health apparatus is ever go to get back the trust of the vast majority of the American public because it’s one thing if they had been giving their opinions, but they’ve been telling us things that have clearly been factually inaccurate for years now.

And the fact, I believe, what is so staggering out there — and you hardly hear any media talking about it, the perfect approximation of this is where are parents most responsible for their young kids? When they are 6 months old, babies, up to about the age of 5. Two percent of parents are getting their 6-month-old to 5-year-olds the covid shot, 2%. One in every 50 parents out there is actually trusting the CDC on whether to get their kids the covid shot.

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Kamala Harris Compares Having a Baby to Slavery

19 Jul 2022

CLAY: Kamala Harris not a great speaker. Not an elite level debater, dropped out of the Democrat presidential primary race before there had even been a vote cast because Democrats didn’t like her.

And I can’t help but think this is truly the dumbest argument that could be made in the abortion debate pretty much, and it’s not a surprise that Kamala Harris would decide to make it.

Here she is effectively arguing that requiring someone to have a baby is the equivalent of slavery and there is a long history of slavery in American history and institutions. Listen.

HARRIS: We know, NAACP, that our country has a history of claiming ownership over human bodies. And today extremist so-called leaders with criminalizing doctors and punishing women from making health care decisions for themselves, personal decisions that is her right to make, in consultation with her doctor, her pastor, her priest, her rabbi, her loved one, not her government telling her what to do.

CLAY: All right. So Kamala Harris — and if you heard that right at the beginning, history, because Democrats are unable to talk about anything in this day and age without trying to tie it in to slavery — it really is unbelievable that that is the default argument for pretty much anything that they argue in favor of, systemic racism is because of slavery. Every single thing that they’re arguing for comes back to America’s a fundamentally racist country because slavery once existed here.

I don’t think, Buck, that this is going to be a very productive argument for Kamala. And this is of course one of the dumbest arguments she could make; so it’s not surprising that she would fix this one.

BUCK: The whole debate actually comes down to whether or not it is a baby in the womb. So the focus from all these Democrats on it’s a woman’s choice and it’s a woman’s body. And the point is that there’s another body, right? And there are plenty of places in the law where you see that privacy does not allow for child abuse. Privacy does not allow for incest.

You know, the society protects people from things that happen behind closed or could happen behind closed doors all the time based on our understanding of what is good, what is right, what is moral. And this is all ultimately about protecting life in the womb, another human being in the womb. Until they deal with that argument, they’re actually just speaking around the issue.

They’re not even addressing the primary argument of the pro-life movement. No one’s on the right sitting around saying, we hate that women can make choices. I mean, think about this. We’re always arguing in this plane of jargon and nonsense. Is it a baby or is it not a baby? At what point is society willing to protect it as a baby? That’s everything.

And we’ve talked about this many times up to this point — the Democrat Party just got into crazy town here, just went far too extreme from being a party that would say, look. There are tough choices sometimes, I think that was propaganda to get us to this point, but that’s another discussion. But they’re in favor of third trimester abortions so they’re in favor of killing babies. Full stop. That’s just what they’re in favor of. That’s what they’re arguing for, which is why this has not moved the political needle in the way that they had hoped for and I think anticipated.

I do believe there are a lot of Democrats who thought the reversal of Roe would save them from this midterm annihilation. It’s not gonna put a dent in the midterms based on what we’re seeing right now. And Kamala doesn’t even have — I don’t know if it’s that she lacks the understanding or she lacks the honesty to address the primary argument here, but she’s a person of very minimal characteristic character and minimal understanding.

CLAY: And what’s amazing about all of her failures, this is a speech, I believe, before the NAACP. And so she’s trying to tie in the battle over abortions to slavery. The actual easier argument to make, if you want to make that historical argument, is the opposite of what she’s arguing, which is Dred Scott, if you are a history person out there, was one of the reasons why we had the Civil War, because the Dred Scott case effectively eliminated the distinction between free and slave states. Because it said even if a slave is taken into a free state, he remains — Dred Scott was the slave — the property of his owner, and that was a Supreme Court decision that came down.

And people who have been pointing to overturn Roe v. Wade for a long time have been arguing, that is an example of a case that was wrongfully decided that needed to be rectified. So if you want to make that historical analogy, there’s actually an easier analogy to make between Dred Scott and Roe v. Wade is that Supreme Court cases sometimes are decided wrongly when it comes to issues of life and freedom, and that is an example of one that was overturned.

BUCK: I mean, you also can look at the Stephen Douglas debates with Lincoln. People always — they’ll talk about this in the context of states’ rights, but they have to remember that Douglas’ position on slavery, if memory serves, was, yeah, it’s awful. I wouldn’t do it, but I want to allow people to do it, which puts you in a very interesting moral plane. Well, why is it awful and why should the state want something that is immoral to be done? And this is where you get safe, legal, and rare, this is where you get a lot of the Democrat dance around the issue.

I mean, ultimately, until they speak honestly about this and I think you’re going to see more honest discussion of abortion than you ever have in the past because the veneer of a constitutional right has finally been taken away and that was preposterous all along from a legal perspective, from a constitutional perspective.

And now we’re going to see this in state after state. Jessica Biel, who was my TV crush when I was growing up, right? —

CLAY: Married now to Justin Timberlake, lives down the street here.

BUCK: Didn’t end up with the Buckster, you know, ended up with international music superstar Justin Timberlake. Whatever. But, you know, she goes over to France — and look, she’s an actress and I don’t — you know, she’s an actress, right? So you would think she knows a lot about policy. But she talks about how they have croissants and women’s rights. France has a abortion ban in place.

CLAY: I think it’s 15 weeks, right?

BUCK: That’s right. The same as Mississippi. The libs in this country don’t understand that places like New York and California have abortion laws that are mirror — or rather their state-level laws are mirrored in China which had a one-child policy and operates concentration camps and North Korea.

Effectively nowhere else on the planet do they think that an abortion in the ninth month is not a murder. And yet California and New York. Again, there’s a madness behind this. There’s a delusion that allows them to — to persist in this. Because they’ll talk about the rest of the world and everything else, “)h, we’re out of step with the rest of the world on climate,” or whatever. That’s not even true, but who cares. On this issue, we’re in line with North Korea and China, in New York and California.

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De Blasio Drops Out of Congressional Race After Polling Just 3%

19 Jul 2022

CLAY: Bill de Blasio, your former mayor in New York City — we just talked about him a little bit in association with the situation with Jose Alba — he is running for Congress — remember he initially ran for president, then he was gonna run for governor or whatever else. Nobody wants him to run for anything.

A new poll — there are a lot of people running in this district, the 10th district of New York City, and New York’s 10th congressional districting, he is right now in seventh place in the House District, and the most recent poll had him getting 3% of the vote. That’s pretty incredible for a guy who was the mayor for as long as he is to know him as well as they do and for only 3% of voters to be willing to vote for him in Congress.

BUCK: He inherited, as mayor, a New York City that was the safest, cleanest, and most prosperous it had been in decades and managed over the course of his time in office to turn it in every way in the wrong direction, to make it the most miserable place to be during covid, to make it a rising crime, rising poverty, dirty streets mess.

And it was really almost like he was doing this intentionally. I mean, he felt we deserved it or something, to have been so — first of all, he’s lazy, he’s reckless, and he’s destructive.

The truth is that anybody who voted for him — and very few New Yorkers — people forget this — he got like 20% of the vote. I mean, very few people even wanted him in New York City to be mayor, but because of the way the election worked here, he destroyed the progress the city that made and sent it hurtling in the wrong direction.

So, I mean, the fact that anybody would vote for him for Congress makes me question that person’s sanity. Anyone who would cast a vote — even a de Blasio family member voting for him I’d be like maybe we should have you checked out.

CLAY: There are some primaries going on today as well where it’ll be interesting to see exactly how these shake out. But you know I’m a poll nerd so I love looking at the latest data there, and effectively de Blasio appears to be ending his career on this run for a congressional seat. And I’m not sure we’ve ever seen anything like this. He’s a two-term mayor and you can’t even get elected to a congressional seat now from the New York City area. To hang himself in this way is kind of unprecedented.

BUCK: I just hope that people — the agreement we used to have, I thought, in New York — and I think this probably true in a lot of other cities — was we can argue about the national political stuff. You can be Democrats when it comes to, you know, the border, when it comes to, you know, abortion, when it comes to things that are national political issues. But when it comes to crime, clean streets, and a functioning subway, functioning city, we can all agree that we want the same things on that, at least, right?

And at the local level, that’s what you’re really dealing with. De Blasio broke that. De Blasio managed to go so hard left and to elevate so many of the wrong ideas. It’s true in Chicago. I’m sure the people in Chicago would like crime to drop there. I’m sure the people of Houston would like to see their crime numbers turn in the other direction. Woke just ruins everything it touches, man. You talk about the Bidas touch with Joe Biden, wokeness is a corrosive ideology that can destroy any city, any state, any country.

CLAY: You’re a hundred percent right about wokeness destroying every it touches, and I think the Bidas touch is certainly infected by wokeness.

But you look at the major American cities right now, I know L.A. is about to have a mayor’s race which is gonna be pretty significant. But Lori Lightfoot might be the worst mayor in the history of Chicago. I think many people who are listening to us in the Chicago area cannot pick somewhere where things would theoretically be worse than what she has done.

De Blasio worse mayor probably in the history of New York City, certainly in the modern history. And have there been any lessons learned about how awful those choices have truly been? Not really. It feels like a lot of the decisions are being doubled down on, but at least de Blasio personally is potentially having his political career end. This is a guy who went from running for president a couple of years ago to now not even being able to be elected theoretically from a New York City area congressional district.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

CLAY: We were just talking about Bill de Blasio as we closed out the last hour. During the commercial break, official news comes down, Buck, that he has dropped out of the congressional race. I don’t know —

BUCK: Do you think he listens to the show? Like, did we make him sad?

CLAY: It is pretty incredible, the timing on that. During the commercial break he officially has dropped out. Former mayor of New York City, Bill de Blasio, 10th Congressional District in New York, his campaign is no more after everyone had effectively decided they were done with him. That timing is pretty incredible. I knew it wasn’t a good sign when you only are showing polling 3% in what is a very crowded Democrat primary for a certain Democrat congressional seat. But you would hope that is the end of his career as a politician because it’s hard to believe he could go anywhere else. So the update on there, he is gone, he is finished as a congressional candidate.

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Good News: Bragg Drops Charges Against Bodega Worker Jose Alba

19 Jul 2022

BUCK: We see in New York a rare bit of good news on the criminal justice front as Jose Alba, the bodega employee, 62 years old who defended himself. And we can all say this now with even greater clarity in a sense, because there’s no alleged criminal charge against him, they dropped the murder charges in New York.

The district attorney here after a massive outcry, dropped the murder charge against Jose Alba.

Clay, I’m of two minds about this. I want to tell you what I’m thinking, and then you tell me legally and then politically, you know, what you’re seeing here. On the one hand, of course, this is the right decision. This is the just decision for this period of time.

But the fact that this could have even happened, when you have clear color video, you know, up close of the entire event, you — it’s you will on video camera, there’s audio, the whole — you saw everything you needed to see here as district attorney, the entire incident captured. And not only did they charge him, they charged him with second-degree murder, and they wanted initially a half a million dollars bail.

Clay, they wanted to hold this guy without even letting him go home until the trial. That was the purpose initially of the district attorney. How can we feel about Democrat-controlled prosecutors’ offices at a time when the most obvious self-defense case on video requires this kind of outcry for them to drop murder charges?

CLAY: I think it’s a political calculation by DA Alvin Bragg. And let me give you my analysis here, Buck. Alvin Bragg basically has been rational when it comes to the Trump prosecutions and investigations that they’ve been attempting in New York City.

He effectively said, hey, we ain’t got nothing here. And the prosecutors that had been investigating and wanted to bring these charges, the DA were so furious that he said that that they walked out, they went and told the New York Times and Alvin Bragg got raked over the coals for not being sufficiently anti-Trump in his analysis of these cases.

I think this is the, “I’m going to uber-woke here and BLM is not gonna mad at me too. I’ve already got the anti-Trump people who are furious because I’ve decided that looking at all the evidence, there is not much of a case against Donald Trump here in New York.” And that’s effectively what he did.

And then I think simultaneously, he had to have seen this video. There’s no way if you are Alvin Bragg that you did not watch this video. And I think he said, “We’re gonna overcharge and we are going to go way over the top on this guy because if we don’t, BLM is going to come after us, and then I’m gonna have BLM and the anti-Trump people angry at me, and I can’t manage that as a DA in New York City; so we’re gonna overcharge here, and then when I have to walk back the charges, no one can accuse me of not protecting black lives in New York City.” I think that was his entire calculus. I think I just walked through the whole thing with you.

BUCK: Lee Zeldin, who is running against Hochul — now, he’s a Republican. But we’ve had Lee on the show. He’s a good man. He’s a patriot. He’s a smart guy.

I’m really hoping, just for the benefit of New York State, that enough New Yorkers wake up, okay, stop with this Democrat nonsense of, “Oh, it’s all — you know, the whole — all of our rights are being taken away.” That’s all the CNN noise. You want a state that has people coming to it where business is flourishing and people are safe on the streets, vote for Lee Zeldin, right?

He has promised — he told us this — that the first day he’s governor, he’s gonna fire Alvin Bragg. So your point about — there are some who believe that if the crime situation continues into the fall, our friend Mark Simone on WOR NYC, fellow radio host, great guy, he thinks that Hochul may actually fire Bragg as it gets closer to the election if that is an issue that resonates because people are sick of this nonsense.

When you see the data that it’s up 37% year over year, even the mayor, Adams, who has not been doing a good job, he saw this video.

CLAY: Yeah, to his credit. That’s what I was gonna say.

BUCK: I stand with the bodega worker who’s trying to do his job and was assaulted. I mean, Clay, I’ve sat through law enforcement training, intelligence officer trainings when you did use of force stuff, right? You could use that video as, “Here is what a self-defense case looks like.” It is 101 level analysis.

CLAY: Let’s also point out that GoFundMe refused to allow Jose Alba to raise money for his own defense and that GoFundMe, whoever is running that ridiculously woke company now, has been on the wrong side of a bunch of cases, right? They wouldn’t allow Kyle Rittenhouse to raise money. Jury hears all the evidence, much of it on video as well. Clear case of self-defense.

This a clear case of self-defense. Based on the identity of who is defending themselves, GoFundMe is deciding whether or not they deserve to have legal representation, which is, again, as a lawyer, the very, in essence, of the worst thing — if you want to talk about historically — the worst thing that you could do, it’s deciding that you don’t even deserve a good legal defense? I mean, it’s wild.

BUCK: To be woke is to be pro-criminal, to ignore victims, and be anti-police. That’s actually the trajectory. That’s actually the thought process. Pro-criminal, ignore victims, hate the cops. That is what wokeness demands of people today.

And this is why you keep seeing incident after incident where it’s not even a close call and they’re blaming the cops, you know? We talked about this over the weekend where you had this guy who’s shooting

CLAY: In Minneapolis.

BUCK: — into an apartment with children, Minneapolis, and there are people gathering, like, with candlelight vigils outside because of how evil and racist this shooting was.

CLAY: And who are most of those people, Buck?

BUCK: They’re white libs.

CLAY: Biden voters.

BUCK: Of course. This is the same people that were yelling at me for my mask in Nashville or my mask take, I should say.

CLAY: I think this is really important. Because what Democrats have allowed to happen is — and this happens with the Latinx, this happens with BLM protests — there is a segment of the population in America, the woke white electorate which is now the base of the Democrat Party.

I mean, that’s not me saying that; if you look at the data, whites who are woke are becoming more and more the voice of the Democrat Party and the Democrats are losing Hispanic, Asian, and black support. In fact, there was a great article at CNN, of all places, Buck, that pointed out that in this era where the Democrats want to sell racial identity politics and division all the time, that we’re actually trending towards a less racially diverse electorate.

In other words, what I mean by that — and I didn’t say it well — what I mean by that is because black and Asian and Hispanic voters are moving towards the Republican Party, the gap in how the races vote is becoming less significant.

At a time when you would look around the country and think, boy, we are filled with racial strife, the woke white community, which I believe is primarily driving the racial strife, is actually sending people who are black and Hispanic and Asian to the Republican Party because these minority voters are frustrated with how much the white, woke class has taken over.

And they’re sitting around in their inner city communities, many of them saying, “Wait a minute. You’re not living on a day-to-day basis with the crime that we have here. You show up for your BLM protest so you can take a picture and post it on Instagram alongside of a Ukraine flag, and then when you leave, the crime waves happen and you don’t care at all.”

And this a good example of Chicago, Buck. Highland Park, everybody’s all up in arms over the shooting at Highland Park. Every single weekend, on average, that many people get shot in Chicago, and no one even blinks. It doesn’t even get a paragraph in the New York Times or the Washington Post, MSNBC, and CNN don’t talk about it at all. When it impacts the white, woke, everybody’s like, oh, my God. Crime is out of control. When it impacts these inner city communities, nobody even blinks. And they’re seeing it.

BUCK: We do have, though, more information — you know, again, the Jose Alba outcome here is the right outcome. But I think at some level it’s almost like a brushback pitch from the district attorney, which is to say he’s telling everybody, you know, if you’re gonna defend yourself, it better be the most clear and captured on video thing possible, because if there’s any race politics involved, you are gonna go to prison, right? Even if it is a self-defense case.

CLAY: If it’s a white guy instead of a Hispanic guy who stabs this black guy, does Alvin Bragg drop charges?

BUCK: He might have put it to a jury.

CLAY: I’m talking about the exact same case, except instead of Jose Alba being I think from the Dominican Republic, is that where he’s from?

BUCK: He’s Hispanic, yes. Sorry. AOC would say he is Latinx.

CLAY: Yeah, Latinx. If instead of being Hispanic, if this had been a white guy in the same bodega, exact same situations, would Alvin Bragg have dropped the charges?

Now, this is why, Buck, justice is blind, right, because you should watch the video. We’re fortunate we have the video here ’cause there’s no way charges would have gotten dropped without video.

BUCK: If this had just happened and this was based on eyewitness testimony, they would have taken this all the way. They would have tried to suppress the fact that this assailant was a thug with a long-standing criminal record who had assaulted a police officer and was out on parole, they would have tried to suppress that his girlfriend started the fight, that his girlfriend came in and stabbed this guy afterward, that the police did not treat his wounds.

CLAY: That he came behind the counter and cornered him, there wouldn’t have been that video.

BUCK: I do hope that this may be a turning point, though, in the psychology of New Yorkers. This is my hometown. I’m sorry that it has been so overrun president woke. But I hope that Democrats not even just of good faith, of sane mind will say, “We have to actually have a society of order and rule of law or else it’s just not worth being here.”

CLAY: Which, to his credit, Eric Adams — and we kind of mentioned this a little bit earlier but I do think it’s important — came out almost immediately and said…

BUCK: Can you give him credit? It’s the most obvious thing in the world.

CLAY: I watched the video, and there are — Buck, we have to argue about masks every day, and it’s the most obvious thing in the world.

One of the challenges with Democrats right now is science and facts — I mean, when you say that a man can get pregnant, I mean, yeah, I’m a little bit surprised that even when you have the video there, that the Democrat mayor of New York City would say this shouldn’t have been charged. I mean, do you have confident that Bill de Blasio would have said it?

BUCK: That’s fair. No. Fair point. And I’d also say with Eric Adams, though, he was elected on, “I’m going to stop crime.” It would have been the end. I don’t think New York has a recall provision. But people would have wanted to recall this mayor already if he had said, yeah, this guy who’s just trying to do his job who’s attacked over nothing isn’t allowed to defend himself. You can’t be the “I’m going to be the law and order mayor” if that’s your position.

CLAY: No doubt. And I think that’s why it’s so significant as you break it forward and get everything ready.

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DeSantis Takes Swings at Biden and Newsom

19 Jul 2022

DESANTIS: How come it’s wrong to produce our own oil and gas here but you can go to Saudi Arabia and fist bump to try to get it from Saudi? I mean, it makes no sense that we wouldn’t do it. We have opportunities here to be inter-energy independent and not have to worry about any of these other countries; and yet they’re intentionally not doing it. And you can’t run a modern economy on windmills. You just can’t do it.

So we do a lot of solar in Florida. It is a complement. It isn’t displace the traditional forms of energy. And so now we’re in a situation they’re bragging that gas has gone down over the last however many weeks, it’s still over four bucks. Like, I had never seen it over four bucks my whole life living here. That is the problem. It’s just when you’re cranking the printing presses, you’re making energy more expensive, you know, that creates an upward pressure on all of this stuff.

BUCK: Everything the governor of Florida Ron DeSantis said there is correct, and on top of that, what is the Democrat response? It’s remarkable.

We’ve seen the fist bump in Saudi Arabia and they can say, oh, that’s just about optics, at least it wasn’t a high five. But going to the Saudis to ask them to produce more oil when the Biden White House has said they’re gonna use the Defense Production Act for solar panels but still don’t want to — you will never hear them say, “Drill, baby, drill.”

You will never hear Democrats in office now say, “You know what? Maybe in 10 years we’ll have a different situation, but for right now, what’s best for us, for our economy and, yes, for national security, for geopolitics globally, would be to produce as much domestic energy, oil and gas, as we possibly can.” They will not say this. They think it’s icky. They think it’s a moral question, not an energy question.

They believe this hysteria about the world is gonna end if we don’t — you know, go back and watch. I invite anybody although I don’t want you to give any more money to my ever to him because he’s such a fraud and an imbecile. But you go back and watch the Al Gore movie, An Inconvenient Truth, the most successfully financially documentary — it’s an editorial, but documentary of all time. And Florida’s underwater in like 1930, the whole state.

These people are out of their minds. This is back 15 years ago now. But everything they say doesn’t happen. They want you to forget all about it.

And here is Biden economic adviser Jared Bernstein letting you know, oh, there’s an executive order coming, not on making oil and gas production at home easier and cheaper for all of us but on climate.

BERNSTEIN: The president will aggressively fight to attack climate change because he knows it’s one of the reasons he’s here, and it is absolutely core to transitioning from where we are to where we need to be.

BUCK: Clay, they’re out of their minds.

CLAY: If we had an honest media — and we all know we don’t. I don’t know if you saw the Pew Research data reflecting how little trust there is in the media in general, television and newspapers in particular, if we had an honest media, when Joe Biden walked out and fist bumped MBS and went in for that meeting in Saudi Arabia, everyone would have stood up and said to Joe Biden, “Wait a minute, sir. Why did you get on Air Force One, fly all the way across the country, all the way across the world, spend God knows how much on greenhouse gas emissions to get here, and then beg basically on bended knee for Saudi Arabia to produce more oil and gas?”

Instead of us being energy independent — Sarah Palin was a hundred percent right when she said, “Drill, baby, drill” — instead of us being energy independent and keeps the tens of billions, the hundreds of billions of dollars that you could make off of oil and gas, we’re giving all that money to Saudi Arabia or Iran by default or Venezuela and eventually when Russia ends the war in Ukraine, back to Russia, all of these places are getting our money.

And if you’re truly concerned about the climate, the oil and gas produced in Saudi Arabia is actually dirtier than the oil and gas that is produced in the United States; so we’re pending with the same amount of demand for oil and gas but you’re somehow arguing that the United States is not complicit because we’re bringing it from somewhere else? Somebody would just ask about that hypocrisy. Almost no one does.

BUCK: And Saudi is still a totalitarian fundamentalist theocracy, everybody. That hasn’t actually changed. So, you know, we don’t focus on it as much because we’re not at war in the Middle East the way we had been for a couple of decades. But this is not a country we really want to make richer. It’s actually not in the interests of the world to have Saudi have more flu in geopolitics.

There have been some moderating influences in recent years in Saudi. The move toward Israel has been a good thing. There are some things that are moving in the right direction, but, you know, we still don’t really want to be making the Saudis as rich as possible. And not just the Saudis. The Russians.

Price of gas is high, it’s good for the Russians. Price of gas is high it’s even good in Venezuela and for the Maduro regime as much as they’ve destroyed their own domestic production, they still are able to produce a lot of oil, and that props up that regime.

But, Clay, we have to remember that for climate change catastrophists, I mean, for the true believers here, they’ll believe anything. Nothing is too stupid and in fact no person is too stupid for them to take advice from.

Here is, with a few million viewers a day, The View, Joy Behar explaining to the viewers of that monumentally stupid show — I mean, the show should come with a bargain. “By the end of this program, your IQ will have dropped 10 to 15 points.” Here she is saying, if only we could get less gas and less gas and oil production used in America, then we wouldn’t have to ask the Saudis for it.

BEHAR: And let’s not forget that Trump was pals with Putin and Kim Jong-un, practically had them in the Lincoln Bedroom. I mean, he was really interested in being with those guys. So this is just somebody I think — I mean, I do defend Biden quite a bit, I know, but it’s like, you know, if Manchin and some of these Republicans would allow the industries to just cut back on fossil fuels and get alternative fuels going, he wouldn’t have to, you know, fist bump this guy, who, by the way, he did say to him I think that you are responsible foreign policy Khashoggi’s death. And the guy goes, no.

BUCK: Pathetic and — but if Republicans would let him cut back on fossil fuels, they’re desperate for cheaper fossil fuels, you monumental moron. It’s unbelievable that this stuff is said on television.

CLAY: She is the dumbest person on television. I will say one positive thing about Joy Behar. I didn’t realize she’s 79 years old. I thought she was maybe, you know, 70.

BUCK: She looks good for 79. I’ll be honest. She looks good for 79.

CLAY: I’m gonna kind to Joy Behar. I didn’t know she was almost 80 years old. She’s Joe Biden’s age. And as little sense as she makes on television, she made more sense on television than Joe Biden does. And unlike Joe Biden, she’s just sitting on the dumbest show on television, as opposed to trying to lead the free world. And so all of this is embarrassingly dumb on behalf of Biden.

But the fact that the media doesn’t call him on it, Buck, is what infuriates me far more. Because the fact that he gets the Air Force One, flies over to Saudi Arabia, begs for more oil, they are the best of the bad options. Venezuela is an awful option. Certainly Iran is an awful option. And we can’t even get Russian oil right now. The problem with the petrodictator states is none of them are particularly embracing human rights.

MBS has done a better job, women can drive cars now in Saudi Arabia, they have movie theaters that people can go watch movies in. To your point on the theocratic state, there is big difference oftentimes between the rights that exist even in Saudi Arabia which is considered to be an enlightened Middle Eastern country and many others out there.

BUCK: I don’t know if I’d go that far.

CLAY: Enlightened Middle Eastern country? I mean, they’re not —

BUCK: I wouldn’t go that far. A conversation for another time.

CLAY: The standard is low. But when, you know, for a long time. they wouldn’t even let women in Iran go watch soccer matches, right? I mean the standard is so low that it’s like, hey, you let women drive cars and go to —

BUCK: Morocco, Jordan, these are more enlightened.

CLAY: More enlightened.

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: Yes. Well, you’re the expert on the Middle East. My point is they’re better than they used to be, and for the countries that have massive deposits of oil, I think they’re the best of the bad option. Venezuela’s got basically communist dictatorship, they’ve lost their minds, they have no idea what’s going on there. Iran is about to have nuclear weapons and maybe who knows what’s gonna — they got Putin visiting right now.-

BUCK: We deal with Saudi because we have to deal with Saudi on oil and also on geopolitics in the Middle East. There’s no going around Saudi because of oil and also because it is the site of Mecca, and so the importance of Saudi Arabia to the region politically and to the world in an oil sense means we want to have as productive a relationship with them as we can. We’re just not gonna get, you know, Jeffersonian democracy breaking out tomorrow.

CLAY: The better option here would be if Biden from the get-go had not tried to turn them into a pariah state and had acknowledged, look. There are lots of things that are going on in Saudi Arabia we disagree with. We don’t need to try to isolate them forever.

BUCK: That was just bluster from Biden.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: That was just, “Oh, I got a moment where I’m gonna get all the blue check libs to say I’m smart,” and then he’s like, oh, wait, I’m not smart.

CLAY: Well, and he also didn’t anticipate that we would end up with the highest gas prices of all time and that because of his choices that he had made in the United States, we wouldn’t be able to produce enough oil and gas. And again, the best of the bad options has been in Saudi Arabia, just not a good one.

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BUCK: We talked before about this looming showdown between DeSantis and Newsom. Even if it’s not a presidential showdown, the state that is the most sort of anti-lockdown, conservative, pro-freedom state during covid, Florida, and the most insane lockdown, no eating or drinking outside allowed at restaurants, no paddleboarding on the ocean, California.

We actually have DeSantis taking a swing at — you better watch out, man. Heavy D knows how to throw a punch. Here’s DeSantis talking about Newsom.

DESANTIS: This is the guy that locked people down, that kept kids out of school, denied people the right to earn a living, wanted to force covid vaxes on people. What did I do? I stood in the way of all that. I lifted people up, we stood with students against the teachers union, we stood with individuals against Big Government, and we make sure that people had the choice about whether they wanted to take this vax or not. They should not have ever been in a position to lose their job.

He also attacked me for helping these special Olympic athletes. These athletes were — they have Down syndrome, disabilities, and they wanted to compete in the Special Olympics in Orlando. Well, there’s an international bureaucracy affiliated with the group that imposed vax discrimination on these athletes. The athletes I met, their doctors told them not to do it based on their condition. So what did we do? We fought the bureaucracy.

BUCK: It’s gonna be great, Clay, to watch this play out.

CLAY: If you missed where this all started, Newsom said the reason he bought the ads in the state of Florida was because Ron DeSantis fought against a covid shot requirement for Special Olympics athletes.

Of all the reasons that he could have chosen to come after DeSantis, letting parents of kids of special needs make choices that are rational for them for the Special Olympics so that as many of them can compete as possible, that’s the battleground that Ron DeSantis was attacked by for Newsom?

He lives in the upside down, to use a Stranger Things reference, he thinks that his state is the free one. And I don’t think the vast majority of the American public believes that at all. And so this, to me, is a recipe for a disaster, but it might also be an early preview of what 2024 might look like.

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Will the Very Pale Elon Musk Buy Twitter or Not?

19 Jul 2022

BUCK: I don’t know if the audience knows this — as a side hustle, as a world class analyst of Twitter stock, Clay gives me the running analysis on stock’s up, stock’s up, you know, five dollars today, Buck. So he’s following this very closely, which is on my mind right now because there just came down the breaking news here is that a court has fast ruled to fast track the Twitter v. Musk trial.

Now, Clay, other than the fact that I think you could definitely throw on some French cuffs Gordon Gekko style and be a great broker — did you ever see Wall Street, by the way?

CLAY: Oh, yeah, of course.

BUCK: One of the best eighties — I think it’s top 10 all time eighties movies. I even put it in my top 10 overall.

CLAY: Michael Douglas’ best role ever?

BUCK: Yes.

CLAY: I think so.

BUCK: Gordon Gekko — which is funny ’cause Oliver Stone talked later about how he made a movie with Gekko as the villain and then everybody wanted to go work on Wall Street and be like Gordon Gekko. Greed is good, apparently.

Oh, another thing about Elon Musk is this thing where you have Elon just at the beach, he’s just trying to hang out, he’s got like nine kids or something, right? He’s got a little bit of a dad bod. I got a dad bod. We got some dad bods out there. No big deal. Apparently, you better — you better take some — take some HGH and spend a few months at the gym and do a little tanning before you let anyone take a photo of you. Elon’s getting crushed right now for his dad bod situation, which I think is unfair. The man is a genius.

CLAY: They also have pictures out of Alec Baldwin. I mean, we’re at the point now where if you’re fairly famous and you go to the beach, somebody’s getting a photo of you topless. And so I was looking at the Elon Musk one; he would look a lot better if he were tan. He might be the palest human on the planet. I’m not sure that Elon Musk has been shirtless outdoors based on this photo in 15 years. I know he’s a billionaire, but he might have to spend a million on sunscreen, ’cause this is the ripest for a sunburn pale, ghostly figure that I have seen in a long time.

BUCK: So,here’s the thing about the Twitter situation that I — you and I both find really interesting. When Elon Musk announced that he was — and the closest thing that we have to a digital town square is Twitter, meaning it’s — the only place where psycho libs don’t follow me on Facebook.

Psycho libs don’t interact with people on the right except on Twitter, really. There’s no more debates on TV. So it is important tore political discourse. Elon says he’s gonna buy Twitter, Clay, and the libs, they freak out.

I mean, you’re seeing on TikTok ,if you’re a Biden voter with face tattoos, blue hair, and a few too many cats who works at Twitter, you were crying when Elon said he was gonna buy it. And now Twitter is suing to make he buy them, and I don’t see any of the crying TikTok videos anymore. What happened?

CLAY: Yeah. So this is a wild story that there aren’t a lot precedents for. So Twitter, for people out there who don’t remember, Elon Musk agreed to buy Twitter for $54.20. The stock price went up close to that stock, right, $50 and change, and then it plummeted. And on Friday, I guess it was like 10 days ago, wasn’t even that long ago, Elon Musk came out — not this past Friday, right, but the Friday before — and said, “Hey, I’m not going to buy Twitter.” And the stock price fell all the way to $32 basically and a half, way below the 54.20 that he was gonna pay.

Well, since then there’s been a steady buying going on. The stock price is now back above $40 during the course of trading today, and there was just a major ruling that came down as we are on air. And I’m reading from the Wall Street Journal.

The Delaware judge has agreed that there is going to be an expedited trial in this case. And I’m reading directly. “A Delaware judge approved a motion to expedite Twitter’s lawsuit against Elon Musk. Twitter is trying to force Elon Musk to comply with the terms of this purchase agreement.” And they are now going to have a trial that will decide whether Elon Musk has to purchase this company or not. Buck, my prediction — I tweeted this out almost immediately — is that they’re ultimately going to settle for a bit lower price.

But now people are betting that Elon Musk is going to be forced to buy Twitter after initially everybody wanted him not to be allowed to buy it. Now they want the courts to force him to buy it. It’s pretty wild.

BUCK: I think he’s just gonna pay a penalty and a break-up fee. I don’t think he’s gonna end up owning it, which we’ll see. By the way, the Hunter Biden prosecution clock is ticking there, Mr. Clay Travis. —

CLAY: I have all my money in Twitter so I can afford to take you out for a steak dinner.

BUCK: There we go. At least Twitter’s on the rise.

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Don’t Think “15 Days to Stop the Spread” Can’t Happen Again

19 Jul 2022

CLAY: Now, Buck and I — some of you out there continue to not believe that this is real. You think to yourself, wait a minute. “15 days to slow the spread” happened back in March of 2020. We’re now advancing rapidly on August of 2022. The midterms are here, almost. You’re thinking to yourself, there’s no way they’re gonna bring back covid. I’m telling you, you’re wrong.

And this story is a great sort of canary in the coal mine moment for what I think is gonna happen all over the state of California, all over the state of New York and, frankly, in many blue cities inside of red states. It would not shock me if my hometown, unfortunately, of Nashville decided to follow lead that we’re seeing right now in San Diego.

And what you’re also recognizing is the people who are making the arguments for the return of covid and the return of masking are not particularly adept at making the case for why masks are necessary.

Listen here to the head of the San Diego school district as she makes argument for why it is necessary. This is Sharon Whitehurst-Payne on what should happen for people who don’t want to mask when they return to school in San Diego. Remember right now it’s only for summer school. But what should kids do or parents do if they don’t want their kids wearing masks?

BUCK: We ran the experiment with Zoom school. And Zoom school is not school. It does not work for kids, particularly for kids who do not have well-off and more educated parents, right, particularly for children who need more assistance from the school system in person, this idea that you better mask up or else your kids aren’t even welcome in school is cruel. These people are monsters who are saying this stuff.

I know they think they’re the good guys, but they’re actually not. This was just from this morning on the Daily Mail, which is, I think, on a global level the most read news site in the world. I think the Daily Mail, it’s certainly high on the list. Maybe it’s top five.

The astonishing data that may prove masks don’t work as covid cases in Singapore and New Zealand overtake Australia despite super obstetric mandates. The quote is, “They don’t matter.”

Yet again we are running in real time another experiment where Australia has relaxed mask mandates because they realize after a while covid just ripping through everything, what are we even doing. Singapore is one of the strictest places in the world for laws, period and also has super high compliance with the laws among the population. And their cases per capita are outstripping those in Australia.

How does one place with super obstetric masking have more covid, Clay, than another place just next door with no masking?

CLAY: Well, and this is why it’s disappointing, the decision that’s being made right now in San Diego. Because we know in Southern California in particular L.A. County and Orange County, which have had very different masking requirements, have had virtually identical rates of covid, as you would expect when there’s not some massive wall dividing one county from another, these are arbitrary lines, very often, that you wouldn’t even know what county you’re in if you’re driving on the 405, for instance, in the Southern California sprawl.

And, Buck, what she said is so chilling because it’s what so many kids are doing — I saw the data from New York City — I bet you did, too — on the number of kids they just lost that just are not coming to school anymore.

First of all, if you’re in summer school — let’s be honest — you’re listening to us right now and you went to summer school, for a large majority of you that went it wasn’t because you were stellar students. It was because you were having to make up for something that happened in the prior school year. That’s why most kids go to summer school, okay? I’m not talking about advanced, you know, governor schools or school camps or whatever.

I’m talking about going to summer school so you can advance to the next grade. Telling those kids, hey, if you don’t wear a mask, just don’t come, you’re effectively telling many of those kids, book, sayonara, we don’t need you in school. It’s exact opposite of what you would want an educator to be telling people in this country.

BUCK: And the New York City school system is losing 30,000, they’re projecting 30,000 students this fall.

CLAY: Yep.

BUCK: They’ve already lost far more than that in the previous year.

CLAY: Over a hundred thousand, I think, prior that have been lost, right? I mean, it’s crazy.

BUCK: It’s a big number. But I think, of all the school — remember, people are masking in schools, that also doesn’t mean that they’re necessarily masking in, you know, grocery stores, restaurants, bars, play group areas, whatever, right, when it comes to the kids.

And Spain, the country of Spain accidentally in essence set up a perfect school masking experiment. This is the best one I think you could find, because it’s the entire — it was nationwide, 6 and up you had to mask in school as kids. 5 and below you did not have to mask in school for the entire school year. Does anyone want to guess what the numbers and the research — research showed for the four million school-age children in Spain?

No damn difference. None. Curve goes up, curve goes down. 4-year-olds get it, 6-year-olds get it, no difference whatsoever.

They don’t even try — no one even asked Fauci to try to explain this. He would say, “Oh, you know the data, “and he would do the usual razzle-dazzle of bullcrap. But we ran a huge experiment, I mean, in a country with better metrics and much closer data watching than we have. And it does nothing. And I go to Asheville and I got the blue-haired commies coming after me like an angry mob online.

CLAY: Well, Buck, you remember, right after we started this show, I went and spoke at my local school board. I got two kids in public school, like right here in my hometown. And when I said that you didn’t need to wear a mask and it made no difference, you would have thought, to the left-wing Blue Checkmark Brigade, that I had just come out and said, like, “Hey, the sun, you know, doesn’t rise in the east and set in the west.” It was like how dare you even argue against masks.

And then we have perfect data here. Williamson County where I I live, the Franklin, Brentwood area, versus Davidson county which is Nashville, where I grew up, absolutely the same rates of covid for kids. Nashville has required masks forever. Just south of town they did not. Exact same rates of covid.

BUCK: I mean, they refused but they so easily could. It’s important that we know this. Masks hurt children developmentally. Masks I think create psychological problems for people. I also think you could tie this into the rise in criminality that we have. Everybody is walking around without their faces being seen or shown on cameras everywhere, all the time. I think this is horrible for society. I’ve always thought it was horrible. I have never changed my tune on that. I have hated this. When Trump was president I hated masking. When Biden’s president I hated masking. They could set up an experiment in New York City or Los Angeles, take a hundred schools here, a hundred schools there, one with masks, one without. They won’t do that because it’s too dangerous for our children.

CLAY: They know what’s gonna happen.

BUCK: Even though the chance of any of them dying from covid is one in a million.

CLAY: Yeah. They know what’s gonna happen. And they know that when that data came out, that it would be significant because everybody would finally say, you’ve been lying to us for years. And my concern on top of this, I’m flying again this weekend, I flew this past weekend. Buck, there were a lot more people I saw in the hospital — in the hospitals — in the airports wearing masks than I did the previous time that I was flying. I fly a lot. And I can see an uptick. And I know that the Biden administration wants to bring it back. I know they do.

BUCK: N95 masks when I was there, young people, 30-something years old, N95 masks on the treadmill.

CLAY: I mean, you have to be way more likely to pass out while wearing a mask like that and breathing heavily on a treadmill. You’ll never convince me otherwise. Your kids on the basketball court or running track, for God’s sakes.

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The Gloves Are Off: Regime Media, Late-Night Comics Turn on Biden

19 Jul 2022

CLAY: Joe Biden may declare an emergency climate declaration today because he is floundering. And in particular he’s floundering in ways that even the left wing in this country can no longer defend him from. The poll came out today from the Trafalgar Group. They have Donald Trump with a five-point lead over Joe Biden. That is the biggest lead that Donald Trump has ever had in any poll over Joe Biden that I have ever seen in the history of polling between those two men. And not just that.

CNN came out with a poll yesterday evening. It has Joe Biden’s approval rating at 38% and his disapproval rating at 61%, which is frankly unheard of. That is worse than Donald Trump was at this time in his presidency. And yesterday on CNN, they were at a loss to even explain how bad of an outlook that provides for Joe Biden. Here is CNN discussing a new low in polling for Joe Biden.

TAPPER: Numbers show that many Americans share a somber outlook on the state of our nation. Let’s bring in CNN Political Director David Chalian to help us break it all down. David, what’s the mood of the United States right now?

CHALIAN: Yeah, somber is a good word, Jake, sour. Totally disappointed, disgruntled. Any of those words get that how bad Americans sort of perceive the state of things right now. How well are things going in the country today? Only 21% say things are going well.

I want to put that in some historical context for you. Twenty-one percent is the low point this goes back, in fact, off this chart, Jake. You have to go back to 2009 to find a time when the American electorate was this dissatisfied with the way things were going in the country.

CLAY: Buck, it ain’t good. And even CNN now is sitting around — I mean, when you talk about getting to over 60% disapproval, that’s hard to do. And in order to get out of that hole, you have to get people to change their minds. And it’s hard to get people to change their minds once they’ve made ’em up.

BUCK: You’re seeing regime media with CNN leading the way on this, recognizing now, we’re gonna be in August here really soon, that they have to psychologically propose the emotionally fragile audiences that they’ve been trying to tell Biden’s doing a great job, they’ve been trying to tell them that for the last 18 months or so. Now it’s starting to turn more into Biden’s doing the best he can, but it’s probably gonna be a rough midterm, guys.

You can start to see it’s seeping in there and it’s even more clear because of what we keep talking about, which is the media palace coup of sorts that could be underway here where they decide that they’re gonna turn public opinion from within the Democrat Party against a second Biden run.

So I think the machinery is all working in the way that you would expect. They cannot, they cannot turn around overall perception at this point because of the economy. And even if the economy wasn’t this bad, crime, the border, there are a range of issues that I think would be a huge drag on Democrats going in to this election cycle. But they’re having to psychologically prepare them.

It’s like — you know, you’ve been a coach, I’ve been a coach — when you’re going up against the, like, city or the state champion and you love your guys and you want them to do their best and you’re like, this might be a tough one, guys, just so you know, we’re gonna do our best, though. That’s pretty much where Democrats are going into this election.

CLAY: And you know it’s getting bad for Joe Biden. Buck, early in Joe Biden’s tenure do you remember when the defense for why comedians weren’t making fun of him was it was almost impossible to find anything to make fun of him about? Do you — that was literally their defense.

BUCK: There’s nothing funny about Mr. Magoo. It’s not like there’s a whole cartoon about him.

CLAY: And they said, oh, we can’t. He’s just — he’s just so impressive, there’s not very much to make fun of. Well, the gloves are off as Joe Biden’s approval ratings have tanked. If there’s one thing that comedians are loyal to, it’s whatever the audience says that they respond to in a positive way, they’re gonna do more and more of that. Even Jimmy Fallon who I think it’s fair to say is the least political of the late-night show hosts, he said — he talked about Fauci retiring, and I listen to this joke.

FALLON: Meanwhile, I read that Dr. Fauci says that he plans to retire by the end of President Biden’s term. Everyone turned to Biden like, is there anything you’d like to announce, too?

CLAY: All right. So your — I mean, Buck, that joke, I mean, you heard people laughing. The fact that Biden should step down is now a comedic punch line and a lot of people kind of uncomfortably laughing there. That’s a Jimmy Fallon joke that certainly would not have happened in the first year of the Biden presidency.

BUCK: It is remarkable as well to see that they’re all turning almost in unison, right?

CLAY: Oh, yeah.

BUCK: It’s as though there was a memo that went out to the regime media, which includes the late-night, quote, comedy shows. Jimmy Fallon seems to make the most authentic effort at being funny, as opposed to just — I mean, Stephen Colbert should be on MS — his show should be on MSNBC, right? It should just be — it should be right after — I don’t even know who’s on. Who replaced Maddow?

CLAY: That’s a great question. That’s not good for MSNBC, we can’t even name her replacement.

BUCK: I know they do have a Republican or two — former Republican or two because that’s something that always amuses libs to have fake Republicans trashing Republicans for a paycheck. But I think that the problem the Democrats face right now, I spoke to a friend of mine recently who is a left-wing Democrat about this, and we’re going through, who are the — who are the options?

CLAY: They got nothing.

BUCK: When you really start thinking — I mean, you go down the list — and I even looked at who was running in the Democrat primary, which really doesn’t feel like it was long ago, right? This is all coming on pretty quickly. You think about who were the top candidates. Biden’s problem is he’s too old, okay?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: And there’s other problems, too, but that’s the one that’s just inescapable, it’s obvious. You know, water is wet; Biden is too old. Okay. You can’t have Bernie again, folks. All right, it’s not gonna Bernie.

CLAY: He’s too old too.

BUCK: Right. He’s too old, obviously. So that he made not gonna work. Why make that change? Elizabeth Warren is borderline —

CLAY: I think she’s too old.

BUCK: — too old ran welcome back right is that he’s maybe three or four year younger than Biden but also — remember, you could see, oh, well, what Trump. Talking about Democrats replacing an incumbent, okay? Forget about what Republicans are gonna do. And then you look down the rest of the list, obviously Kamala would be the obvious choice.

CLAY: And she will run; so she will throw her hat into the ring if Biden steps out, but nobody’s enamored of Kamala.

BUCK: I mean, I know last night on Tucker’s show he put out there the two big blue state governors who actually won elections so that gets rid of Hochul, right, ’cause Hochul was just there. Hochul is just somebody they’re like, uh, we need a governor because the last Democrat Governor Cuomo was grabbing too many people. And so now you have to Pritzker in Illinois and Newsom in California.

Who’s the most formidable candidate that the Democrats could put forward to take over for Biden at this point? I think you have to agree that it’s probably Gavin Newsom, which sounds crazy, but who else?

CLAY: Yeah. I think it’s Gavin Newsom. And I think you’re right. Mayor Pete — people won’t talk about it — but the gay thing, no support from black guys. Black guys are not voting for a gay white guy to be the president of the United States. And it’s like Democrats won’t acknowledge it.

But you just look at Mayor Pete — first of all, his resume is not very impressive, but when you actually look at the his appeal to minority voters, no one voted for him who was a minority. White people, woke white people love Mayor Pete ’cause he reminds them of themselves. I mean, honestly, but he has no chance. I think it’s Newsom.

BUCK: Cory Booker may want to get involved,

CLAY: Cory Booker is not very likable.

BUCK: I’m not like on the Cory Booker campaign here, buddy. I’m just saying they’re gonna have to come up with something.

CLAY: I think it’s Newsom. I think Newsom would end up being the nominee. And the thing about Newsom is, I question his ability to analyze anything on a political nature because of that stupid ad that he ran in Florida that was so tone-deaf against Ron DeSantis over July 4th.

BUCK: But here’s the thing.

CLAY: He would be a disaster.

BUCK: You and I both have to deal with this, right? There are blue checks on Twitter that come after you who have hundreds of thousands of followers and maybe you’ll take a swing back and then there are the blue checks that have 300 followers and you’re like — you know, or, you know, 3,000, you’re like, yeah, I don’t really — I don’t really care.

Newsom, I think, was punching up, and everyone saw that, right? Meaning that by trying to attach himself to DeSantis, who is the leader of Republican governors right now — I know Trump is still the de facto head of the Republican Party for a majority of Republicans today, but talking about governors, it’s clearly DeSantis in the lead on the governor’s side of things.

Newsom wants to be considered that among Democrats, right? He’s from the biggest state the countries, the biggest blue state — slash, state in the country. So for him I think it’s an elevation to even put him in the same ring, so to speak, as — as DeSantis. The problem, though, for Newsom, I think, Clay, is it becomes, one, the policy of the California (unintelligible), which is obvious, and then also, how does Gavin Newsom play in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Wisconsin. I don’t think he plays very well.

CLAY: I don’t think he does either. I think he would get trounced. But I think he’s the best option that they have. I don’t — that they would select. The best option that they have is actually the guy that they hate, Joe Manchin. Joe Manchin would actually play well in the red states. You know he’s gonna win the blue states just because he’s a Democrat. He has zero percent chance of being nominated.

BUCK: Yeah, but he wouldn’t give them what they want in office, for them. That’s why they — you know what I mean? So.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: For them that’s a lose-lose.

CLAY: But Gavin Newsom would have to pick ’cause we know that all the Democrats care about is cosmetic diversity now. Like, he’s have to pick a minority female running mate, right?

BUCK: You think he goes with Stacey Abrams as his running mate.

CLAY: That is my first thought. She loses in Georgia — if she won, she would run and she might be the nominee.

BUCK: Excuse me, sir. She’s gonna be in her second term as the fake governor of Georgia.

CLAY: She was down seven points in the most recent poll. I don’t think it’s gonna be particularly close in the governor’s race. I think the Senate race between Herschel Walker and Warnock is gonna end up being close. I think Herschel Walker is going to end up finding a way to win because George Republicans are so fired up. But I think Stacey Abrams is gonna lose.

The funniest one to me, Buck, is the Beto-Stacey Abrams ticket. Neither one of them can win anything in their home states, but they all raised a hundred million dollars or so from New York and California people. Beto plus Abrams, the losing ticket of all time. I could see that happen.

BUCK: Look at Biden. The lesson of Joe Biden is you can be a clownish loser in presidential election. Biden — I was invited just as a spectator to a cocktail event in D.C. when I was in the CIA, and I just went I think, you know, someone brought me as a date or something. I don’t even remember now. It was Biden, Kucinich, and someone else whose name I can’t even remember.

He was at that level running in 2008. He was at the Kucinich level of, like, 1% support. So the lesson of Bidenism is if you just stick around long enough and you don’t care about anything other than being there, maybe you can win.

CLAY: Remember Biden got blew up in 2008 because he said Barack Obama was the first black candidate who was I think “clean and articulate?” I mean, that was Biden in ’08. And his entire presidential campaign imploded. The only reason he had any viability at all was ’cause Obama decided to make him his VP.

BUCK: The best, in quotes, moment that Kamala had in the last election cycle was trashing Joe Biden as an old white racist on stage in front of the whole country. That was the only moment anybody — and that was when she was like, “I’m obviously a top-tier candidate.” Well, not so much, turned out. B

But nonetheless. We’re gonna stay on all this, friends, because, man, we are heading into a fascinating, fascinating political cycle here.

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NOAH: After being unable to accomplish anything Joe Biden has campaigned on, the president’s approval rating is now hovering somewhere between long covid and Uvalde police department. And making matters worse for him is a runaway inflation, right? Especially when it comes to gas prices. The prices of gas are so high that these days driving is the entire date, you know? Just like, “He really spoiled me last night. We drove all the way from my house to the end of the block. Oh. He’s so romantic.” But here’s the thing. Here’s the thing. Until gas prices improve, neither will Joe Biden’s approval rating.

BUCK: There you have more comedians or a comedian among many making jokes about this Biden administration. Welcome back to Clay and Buck. I’m Buck. He’s Clay. And what we’re seeing is that the regime media is no longer circling the wagons they have in the past. And there’s this one part of it, you know, there’s alls this, “Oh, man, things are going so badly the country right now. Things are so rough out there. Ha-ha. Let’s make some jokes about it.”

Yeah, we told all of my that this was going to happen. We said Joe Biden doesn’t understand business, the economy. All he understands is how to keep get elected in the state of Delaware as a Democrat and how to make jobs happen for Hunter. And now we’re supposed to just say, “Oh, who could have seen this coming?” Everyone listen to this, Clay, saw it coming.

CLAY: I saw it coming. I’ll be honest. I didn’t think it would be this bad.

BUCK: I agree with that. Same with me.

CLAY: You know, every decision that you make as president is a difficult one, right, because it is true that if it makes it to your desk, it was something — just like the Supreme Court. It was something that couldn’t have been resolved by everybody below.

But it’s like Biden flipped a coin and he called the wrong side every single time, which is virtually impossible to do. You watch a sporting event, most of the time two good teams end up being relatively competitive.

Biden is like the guy who’s getting blitzed 52-3. You know, he made the Super Bowl and then every decision that he’s made since he got to the Super Bowl has been wrong. And it is kind of remarkable to see how incompetent he has been, even with low expectations he has come in beneath them.

BUCK: It’s stunning. I mean, in a sense, gotta give him credit. He keeps setting new records. Just in the wrong direction. Just for things you don’t want to set records for. So there’s that. It is a memorable presidency, the Biden presidency memorable in all the ways you don’t want to be.

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