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Clay Thanks All C&B’s #1 Markets

22 Jun 2022

CLAY: Yesterday, I told everybody out there, “Hey, it’s our one-year anniversary; I want to thank the specific markets that we have been number one in.” Buck, are you ready?

BUCK: You know it. I love this.

CLAY: During the course of this year — I’ve got it, I am really to roll — we have been number one — and this is in order of the market size, so I’m not trying to favor one or the other. This is market size. Top 100 markets. We have been number one in Houston; in Phoenix; in San Diego; in Denver; in Salt Lake City; in Sacramento; Austin, Texas; Columbus, Ohio; Raleigh-Durham; Milwaukee; Greensboro, North Carolina; Memphis, Tennessee; Fort Myers and Naples; Louisville, Kentucky; Birmingham, Alabama; Tucson, Arizona; Albany, New York; Grand Rapids, Michigan; Des Moines, Iowa; Omaha; Spokane, Washington, and Syracuse, New York.

Now, those are just the top 100 biggest radio markets in the country. We rank highly in many of them. But, Buck, that is an awful lot of markets out there. We love all of you. Those are a lot of big cities and a lot of unique areas all over the country that are currently listening to us the most of any radio show.

BUCK: We want to use this platform, this legendary platform — built, created by, held up by Rush Limbaugh for decades. We want to now take this platform and make sure this audience feels focused, informed, entertained, and fired up for our first full-scale election together, friends, in this midterm. So we are on a mission. You are part of this mission. You are the mission to save the country, my friends. That’s the plan.

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Elon Musk Agrees with Us: A Recession Is Likely

22 Jun 2022

CLAY: The richest man in the world, Elon Musk, says recession is inevitable. Joe Biden claiming that recession is not inevitable. Who’s side you gonna take, the guy who understands business and has built the largest wealth almost in the history of the country or the guy who’s been in government for over 40 years and basically never accomplished anything? Here’s Elon Musk responding to Biden.

CLAY: We agree with Elon Musk. If you had to pick a side to be on, would you rather be with Joe Biden’s opinion on the economy or Elon Musk’s opinion on the economy?

BUCK: So, here’s what’s going on. The Biden administration is hoping that they can bolster sentiment. This is really fingers and toes in the dam as it’s cracking kind of a policy, right? But they’re hoping that they can bolster sentiment just enough that we eke out another quarter or two here without being formally in a recession because the only thing that might drive their political hopes down in the dumps more than the super high price of gas is when everybody has — to because it becomes a definitional issue — use the R-word, “recession.”

When you have people saying… You know what it’s gonna be called? The Biden administration recession. They’re gonna try to call it, you know, the Trump recession or the Biden Transition to Greatness plan or some such lunacy. But it’s gonna be the Biden recession, and we all know it, and I gotta tell you I talked to a friend of mine — I’ll just say it. I talked on air about this yesterday on TV side, Ned Ryun, who is a super…

We’ve had him on the show many times, great guy, super squared away, runs American Majority. And I said; so what are we really looking at here, Clay? He said based on numbers — and he’s plugged in with political consultants and be and he knows how these races are going. Anything that Biden won by 12 to 50 points in 2020 is in play and maybe some outliers of 15 to 20 points, meaning Biden won by 15 or 20 points then could be in play in this midterm, which means I don’t know if we’ve ever seen something like this.

CLAY: Well, to put it in context we just saw a Texas 34th congressional district that Mayra Flores won, it swung by 21 points. So the Democrat congressman won by 14. She won by about seven; so that’s a 21-point swing that kind of could put into a rough outline some of these districts and how they could change.

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Former Democrat Rising Star Andrew Gillum Arrested for Fraud

22 Jun 2022

BUCK: Because I’m in Florida right now, I have to say it’s interesting that there is a pretty big breaking news story just from this morning and it’s not a good time to be an Andrew Gillum fan. You all will remember the 2018 gubernatorial election here in the state of Florida where Andrew Gillum ran against the now governor we were just talking about him — Ron DeSantis — who some people are saying is looking more and more likely to be a Republican presidential contender and maybe even an occupant at 1600 Pennsylvania at some point.

We shall all see. I don’t pretend to have a crystal ball. I’ve been in politics, political radio too long to think that I can predict these things. But he’s certainly getting talked about a lot in that regard. His former opponent in 2018, Andrew Gillum — and this was a super close race, just so everyone remembers. Ron DeSantis won 4,076,186 votes in the final tally; Andrew Gillum, 4,043,723 — a difference of give or take 33,000 votes in that governor’s race, a razor’s edge on a razor’s edge kind of margin there.

Well, the breaking news today is that the individual the Democrats wanted to be the governor of the state of Florida is facing a 21-count federal indictment conspiracy to commit wire fraud and wire fraud and making false statements to the FBI. Clay, I read through the DOJ document. This is always the best way to do it, right, whenever they have the actual the Department of Justice charging or the charging document available to be read or just their press release on what the charges are.

He, it seems, had someone as a coconspirator — alleged coconspirator — Sharon Janet Lettman-Hicks, and they were raising money for one purpose and then she was funneling money — this is, again, according to the indictment — through, it looks like, some kind of LLC or corporation and then funneling money directly back to Gillum for personal usage and to her for personal usage.

This is one of things… You remember this. I remember from terrorism cases Not that this is a terrorism case, but you know what gets most people with these federal indictments? False statements charges and anything involving wire fraud, because it’s numbers on the screen. Easy enough to prove, and you face 20 years maximum for a wire fraud charge. It’s a serious felony.

CLAY: For everybody out there who wonders about the importance of governors’ races, I think you can make a strong argument that the state of Florida in electing Ron DeSantis over Andrew Gillum rendered the single most important governor’s race election result in the twenty-first century and maybe going back 20 or 30 years before that. Let me explain what I mean by that thesis. You mentioned it, Buck: 33,000 votes DeSantis beats Andrew Gillum by. Worth also noting that Andrew Gillum was a part of a gay sex imbroglio that happened in Miami where police had to be called, drugs were used, photos of him passed out on the ground.

BUCK: I believe there was a prostitute and a substantial amount of illegal drugs.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: A male prostitute and meth or something was in abundance. Yeah.

CLAY: Which blew up his life even before these federal indictments came down just a couple of hours ago, and so when you look at this — and I think when you follow through, everyone out there will understand. If Andrew Gillum had been the governor of Florida… Let’s pretend that he doesn’t get the federal indictments — let’s pretend that the gay sex scandal doesn’t emerge, let’s just he wins and he mostly stays out of trouble.

He would have done exactly what Andrew Cuomo did and exactly what Gavin Newsom did. He would have shut down the state of Florida during covid. If he had shut down the state of Florida during covid just like New York and California, so many Republican governors would have been afraid to follow the lead of Ron DeSantis who made the decision that lockdowns made zero sense, who opened up schools, who kept everything flowing in terms of the commerce as best was possible in the state of Florida. And we would have been Canada or we would have been Australia, ’cause I’m not sure any other governor of a populous state would have been willing to stand up to the popular tide of lockdown, viral superiority.

BUCK: I gotta say the other — even much more — remember, Florida was a Democrat-lean by registration state going.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: It was very close, but maybe by 100,000 or 200,000 registrations. So it was this very-thin-margin state. There were far more red states where the governors were just wimpy.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I’m just gonna say it: They went along with it. A lot of them try to rewrite the history now, but there were places that could have been beacons of sanity and freedom and constitutionalism during the pandemics who just bent the knee to Fauciism. ‘Cause, remember, it’s so important; I hated lockdowns and masking even when Trump was president. Trump wasn’t pushing that stuff.

I mean, the first couple of weeks we’re all terrified, we saw northern Italy. It was the states that became essentially crazy. Florida did not become crazy. But these other states went completely out of their minds — New York, California — and then when Biden became president, you added the federal government layer on top of it. So Trump was far better on these issues.

CLAY: By far.

BUCK: It needs to be said. He was far better on these issues of covid and lockdowns than Biden was, not even close. And obviously Ron DeSantis at a state level was by far the — not even — “the best” is such a broad term. The sanest, the most data driven, the most realistic about what was actually happening. And, Clay, he created the space for others. I think Abbott had DeSantis envy in Texas. I think there were other governors who saw what happened in Florida and saw that it was possible for businesses to be open. Without Florida and DeSantis, does Georgia open as early as it did? I don’t think so. Without DeSantis, does Texas start to move in the right direction, although I think far too slowly? I don’t think so.

CLAY: I think some small states would have, but they would have had such tiny populations, and they would have been overwhelmingly rural in nature such that it wouldn’t have had the same impact. What happened was, DeSantis trusted his data, his analysis of the all of the covid related lockdown decisions, and he was willing to go out there and take all of the fire because when you followed in his wake, there wasn’t as much criticism for everyone else.

And 33,000 votes, Buck — 33,000 votes — in Florida in a 2018 governor’s reelection that — let’s be honest — nobody thought was super important. I know people cared, and whether you’re Republican or Democrat Party rules in Florida is a big deal. But no one thought that governors would become as important as they did by 2020 in the spring.

BUCK: We have a lot more than 30,000 people in the state of Florida alone listening to this right now.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: We have several times over plus the margin of victory, just so everyone knows, and that’s why we always like to move the stories around based on where things are happening. So we’re looking at every part of the country ’cause we have stations in every part of the country, and we want to make sure that we’re representing not just the national level but the concerns at the state and even local level when that becomes a prominent enough issue for everyone to be hearing about it.

And you think about that Florida election, the implications of it and how tight it was, going into this midterm, I just don’t want anyone leaving anything on the table. Leave it all on the field, so to speak, right? Everyone’s… This has gotta be all hands on deck because even an election that doesn’t get that much attention can make a huge difference. In the case of Florida — think about this, folks — millions and millions of peoples jobs, their mental health, their physical health all turned on this.

CLAY: Their kids at school.

BUCK: Right. The Republican Party offered up Ron DeSantis. We were laughing yesterday, the hit piece on him is this guy who goes to Harvard and Yale and serves his country in the military, he’s way too focused, not enough beer bongs for Ron DeSantis when he’s in college. And then they wanted Andrew Gillum. Put aside the personal scandal but there’s illegal drugs and other things involved. Put aside that for a moment, facing a 21-count federal indictment.

CLAY: That and, by the way, the “DeSantis is too serious” angle is the exact opposite of the George W. Bush story, which was, “This is a guy who likes to party too much, who has too much Fun, he’s coasted his entire life.” So if you’re a fun-loving, easygoing guy — I think also W. Bush went to Yale, right? And you don’t take school that seriously, oh, you’re not ready to be president. If you do take school seriously and you come from a middle-class background, you’re way too focused and, therefore, are not a good choice, either. You literally get hit on either side. Partying too much, didn’t party enough. He’s too cool, he’s not cool enough. You can’t win.

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Politico Plays Up Trump vs. DeSantis Battle for GOP Nomination

22 Jun 2022

CLAY: I think it’s going to be a reality. I believe that Ron DeSantis, governor of Florida, is going to be running against Donald Trump for the 2024 presidential nomination on behalf of the Republican Party. Politico has a story that went up early this morning that Ron DeSantis is not asking for Donald Trump’s endorsement in the state of Florida. “According to four people…” I’m reading from Politico.

“According to four people connected to the governor and former president, DeSantis has not asked Trump for a formal endorsement and isn’t planning to. It’s a clear sign that DeSantis, who more than four years ago was a little-known congressman from northeast Florida, has risen high in the GOP stratosphere,” and they are expecting now that there is going to be… There’s a New Yorker article. We talked about it that hinted at it. It had quotes from Trump.

I think that we are headed for a major battle between DeSantis and Trump in 2023 as we run into the 2024 presidential election. Now, things can still change, Buck. Ron DeSantis has gotta win reelection in Florida this November. His wife has been unhealthy. She had breast cancer. She appears, fortunately, to have recovered from that. But there are potential health considerations there. Trump is obviously over the age of 75. He seems to be in great health right now. But that’s always worth mentioning, too. But it appears increasingly likely that that is going to be a battle of leviathans in the Republican Party for 2024’s nomination.

BUCK: I feel like the rest of the country is gonna have to ask for Ron DeSantis to — they’re gonna have to ask Floridians to be willing to part with their favorite governor because he’s got audiences now listening FLA Tampa, IOD Miami, all up South Florida and then, you know, on the west side.

CLAY: The panhandle, where I live, is the capital of the Republican Party now, and both these guys live there.

BUCK: And so it’s just gonna be so interesting to see it. But I know they don’t want to give up their governor and he’s heading into a presidential… Well, let’s be honest. Do they even want to get him up to the White House but certainly even to a presidential election would be a big shift in focus that would occur, although I think people can handle — people do handle — both of those things. I just say this, though, Clay:

He’s gonna win reelection it looks like in the governor’s race in Florida not by a little bit, but by a major amount and also will have changed the registrations of hundreds of thousands voters, from down a few hundred thousand to the Democrats to up statewide a few hundred thousand Republican. So, we live in interesting times, Clay. That is for sure.

CLAY: I just don’t want our audience to be shocked by this coming battle. We want to keep you updated. That, I believe, is going to happen.

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Biden’s Gas Tax Holiday Is a Gimmick — Just Ask Obama

22 Jun 2022

BUCK: So, the federal gas tax holiday. Well, let’s just start with this. Even the gas CEOs who usually… You’ll notice they don’t usually get into the political fray because a lot of regulation. They just want to keep pumping their oil, doing their business. I know there’s obviously lobbyists and such, but they don’t speak out against politicians that frequently. The Chevron CEO has basically said Biden doesn’t know what the heck he’s talking about.

Here is Biden’s response. Play clip 1.

BUCK: Does he really think it’s a time for jokes, Clay? People can’t afford gas. The gas CEO is saying the Biden regime is clownish, and Biden thinks it’s funny.

CLAY: Here’s what’s going on” The Democrats know that nothing else matters. All the distractions that they’re trying to throw up surrounding January 6th, the potential impact as we go forward surrounding whatever the Supreme Court does with Roe v. Wade, all of it is a big distraction that is not taking away attention from 8.6% inflation and how angry every single person is when they go to pump their gas and it’s $5 a gallon.

That is — every single time — the essence of this, and the problem with the gas tax holiday is, it’s not going to do anything other than provide a short-term show. And the biggest issue the Biden administration has is all of the oil and gas companies know that the Biden administration is 100% opposed to everything that they do and every aspect of their business. So take it outside of gas.

If you knew that there was a government that hated what your business was and they were suddenly desperate for your product because there was a midterm election coming up, would you invest billions of dollars in production when you knew that as soon as they possibly could, they would cut your legs out from underneath you and what was a profitable business would rapidly decline in profitability?

‘Cause remember, Buck, it wasn’t very long ago that we were talking about gas prices going negative. Do you remember that? Like in March and April of 2020 when everybody was supposed to stay at home and all this oil was being delivered the United States, and the price of a barrel of crude oil actually went into negative territory because there was nowhere to store it and there was no consumption.

That’s what they’re afraid of. They’re afraid of creating a situation where they’re drastically oversupplying a market that is trying to cut the legs out of the business that they are in the middle of. And so there’s no trust, there’s no reciprocity here, there’s no rapprochement, there is no relationship. Because, ultimately, Democrats want oil and gas — anything other than so-called clean energy — to vanish and to vanish forever.

And widen is trying to make the oil and gas companies responsible for the price of oil and gas, when if he had allowed the full fruition of our production from the first place, he wouldn’t be going on bended knee to Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, and Iran begging for them to increase production so that we can replace what we’re losing in Russia.

BUCK: They don’t have any plans, folks. Not really. At this point, it is down to gimmicks. You have to wonder at what faze will Biden just decide to send Biden stimulus checks — even though we’re going through a terrible period of inflation — to effectively buy off as many voters as possible at the very end here. And they don’t have it both ways here he read. You can’t have the Biden regime talking about a move that will bring down gas prices and Biden doing everything he can on gas prices, but it’s not his fault that gas prices are high, right?

Well, no one’s saying it’s all his fault. Nothing had a macroeconomic level is ever entirely the sitting president’s fault, but has he made it worse? Has he made the wrong moves? Yes. Clearly. Obviously. Everybody, including the CEOs of all the fossil fuel energy companies but also everybody who’s had to pump gas for the last six months knows, yeah.

This administration has made things more painful, more difficult, and you still, Clay… I love this. You’ve got the energy secretary. Jennifer Granholm can’t help herself. John Kerry can’t help himself. They’re going around… Here you go. Here’s Granholm saying (summarized), “Yeah, look things are tough, but what a great opportunity — while you can’t afford to drive to work — to transition to green energy!” Play 7.

CLAY: The $64,000 electric vehicle solution to $5 gas is maybe the most Marie Antoinette-esque move of any modern political party during our lives. Remember Debbie Stabenow, the senator from Michigan, bragging about how she had driven from Michigan to D.C. and she just kept driving past in her brand-new electric vehicle all of the high gas prices?

And ultimately what’s wild here, Buck, is Barack Obama actually pointed this out some time ago, that everything about a gas tax holiday was a gimmick. He said it back in 2008, and I would imagine there’ll be a lot of people playing this because obviously Joe Biden was the vice president of Barack Obama at the time that this was said — and guess what? Obama, at least on this scenario, was a hundred percent right. Listen.

BUCK: Wow.

CLAY: It’s a gimmick, Buck. I would love to hear Joe Biden actually directly questioned on this. Of course, it rarely happens, but, “Hey, your former president said a gas tax holiday was a gimmick. Why was he wrong?” I would love to hear Joe Biden’s response to that.

BUCK: And they also know, Clay, where this is all heading. A Biden administration that has a Republican majority in the House and even a slim majority in the Senate isn’t going to get any major legislation through. You’re gonna hear a lot of class welfare stuff and obviously — depending the Republican candidate — there will be a real focus on January 6th, all the things that we can expect.

But then it really turns into politically this country, after the midterms, is gonna shift right into presidential election mode. There’s not gonna be some long holiday. There’s not gonna be a honeymoon period of a year in between. We’re gonna be shifting right towards. And at that point, with Biden not able to point to any achievements and with all the pain that we’re seeing economically in this country.

Never mind all the other dysfunction that we talk about: Illegal immigration worst it’s ever been, violent crime the worst it’s ever been in a number of cities — and nationwide ,the worst it’s been in decades. All these things just point in one direction, and that is for the one thing that Democrats and the apparatus are really responsive to: The imminent loss of power, the massive loss of authority. That’s where they’re heading.

And so you’re already seeing the desperation, right? I mean, come on. A gas tax holiday is desperate. Honestly, Biden even tapping into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, it’s not really what it’s for. Now, politicians play games with things like this. But that’s supposed to be in the case of an embargo or a war. It’s not just, “Gas price a little high. Let’s buy off the voters a little bit.

“Let’s tell ’em I’m doing something.” The thing that they could do is encourage not just exploration, not just refining. Encourage fossil fuel domestic production and say, “We’re not going to stand in your way this year or in four years or in 10 years.” We understand this is where the economy is. They ideologically cannot do that. That is where the rubber meets the road.

CLAY: “Drill, baby, drill!” I remember someone distilling the question of what we need to do when it came to oil and gas to that, and that is exactly what should be done. But you’re right. When your entire party is predicated on the idea of climate change as a destructive force that must be resolved, then the Green New Deal energy policies mean you can’t actually solve an energy crisis that has emerged and is continuing to grow and is probably going to lead to higher gas prices throughout course of the summer.

And, Buck, the discussion here is about a gas tax holiday until September. Do you really think they would end it in September, or do you think they would extend it to — oh, I don’t know — November 10th, maybe through Thanksgiving? Oh, we’re gonna give everybody a little bit of a break? And I can’t even wait. We’ll have to talk about this as it gets closer to July 4th more in earnest. Remember last year when the Biden White House put out the statement that you were saving 16¢ on your Fourth of July barbecue over the year before, thanks the Biden economic policies?

BUCK: Those pork ribs tasted so much better with the two bits that I was saving or whatever, the 12-1/2¢ cents.

CLAY: The 16¢ that you were saving.

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It’s the One-Year Anniversary of C&B!

21 Jun 2022

CLAY: Officially one-year anniversary! Many of you, on this exact date one year ago, sat down and heard Buck and I speak to you for the first time ever. On this date, we appreciate that first year, and we have got so much more in the days, the weeks, the months, the years ahead for you.

But thank you to everyone out there who has given us the chance to step into the biggest legacy in the history of radio, and we hope that we have done a good job continuing to advance the fight for the things that Rush would have been fighting for himself, and certainly we are honored to talk with you every single day.

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BECK: Hey, it’s Glenn Beck. Congratulations, guys, on the one-year anniversary of the Clay Travis & Buck Sexton Show. You guys are hitting it out of the park. Keep it up.

KELLY: What’s up, Clay and Buck? It’s Jesse Kelly of the world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Just wanted to wish you both a very happy anniversary and a happy pride month.

BUCK: Welcome back to Clay and Buck, very kind words there from our friends Glenn Beck and Jesse Kelly, our fellow Premiere Network hosts. I cannot believe it has been a year that we have been doing this show together.

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O’REILLY: Clay and Buck, one year terrorizing the whole country. Congratulations, you guys. You know, I said this to you on the air, on your program. Very difficult to take over from the legendary Rush Limbaugh. I mean, I wouldn’t want to do it because the comparison is always there. But you guys have prospered, and I think that is an amazing media achievement. So, once again, congrats on your first anniversary. Many more.

CLAY: Fantastic to hear from so many of the friends of the program.

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HANNITY: Hey, Clay. Hey, Buck. It’s your friend, Sean Hannity. One-year anniversary! Couldn’t be happier for you guys. By the way, who gets first billing, who gets second billing, and how do you decide that — and do you flip it on other days? You know, I’ve watched the incredible year of broadcasting you guys have had. You take over for the GOAT, the Greatest of All Time, Rush Limbaugh, never an easy position to be put in, and you both have done a phenomenal job.

It’s an honor to be in the same industry as both of you. Congratulations for all your success. We will forever, obviously, miss Rush. But your success is based on your great talents, and the audience has responded in kind. You’ve built up a huge audience in a short period of time. I’m friends with both of you. I’m so happy for both of you, continued success, God blessings all the time, and we’ll be talking soon.

BUCK: Our friend Sean Hannity there with really very kind words. Sean is such a generous, decent, great all-around guy to everybody who knows him and saying some things there that really going above and beyond. So ,thank you very much to the great Sean Hannity.

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SEN. BLACKBURN: Well, happy one-year anniversary, Clay and Buck. You know, time flies when you’re having fun, and I think you guys are having a blast. And along the way, what a great job you are doing educating people on the issues: Inflation, the border, crime, foreign policy that is gone awry. I appreciate so much the work that you’re doing. Love being on with you. Happy anniversary.

BUCK: Another friend of the show there, Senator Marsha Blackburn from Tennessee, calling in to wish us a happy one-year anniversary. Clay, what did you get me? You know my colors are blue, gray, and other blue.

CLAY: I wasn’t sure what to get you ’cause I didn’t know what your pronouns were gonna be today, so I didn’t want to offend you.

BUCK: That’s a fair point. You did, however, very kindly, set up a steak dinner for us on Friday. Clay took Carrie (my girlfriend) and me out, to a place called Keens in New York City, which is so good. First of all, the food is amazing. But isn’t it such a cool place? They said it’s 130 years old, I think, in Midtown Manhattan. You wouldn’t know that there could be such an old-school, old-style steakhouse just plopped down in the middle of Manhattan. It’s a pretty cool joint.

CLAY: We walked in… You did a great job picking that place ’cause we’re both history nerds. But we talked in, and there’s all this Teddy Roosevelt historical documentation on the walls. It was one of his favorite places to eat in New York City. That’s how old this place is. And my wife and you and your girlfriend, Carrie, we all had an awesome time hanging out. And other than when the table of New Jersey bros rolled in, which was the one downside. It was like Jersey Shore suddenly was being filmed directly behind us there for about five minutes. We had to relocate.

BUCK: This brings me to the what I could call the war on noise or unnecessary noise. We’ll talk about this maybe in the third hour of the show because I do believe that we need all the civilized people of America, all the civilized people of the whole world, to recognize that there are just some rules. If we’re going to live together in close proximity, you can’t put your phone on speaker and have FaceTime conversations in crowded restaurants. There’s a few things that we all need to agree on.

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BERRY: Clay Travis & Buck Sexton. This is Michael Berry. It’s been one year since you buckled up in the big chair. Reminds me of Top Gun: Maverick. You both were like Rooster getting in the jet, knowing the nation was depending on you. But this would be a challenging journey. You’ve taken the reins of our spaceship to sanity, and you’ve led us with vision, comedy, and common sense. This first year was great, but the future is even brighter. Clay and Buck, continue your daily broadcast excellence. We’ll all be here listening. I’m proud to call you both my friend.

BUCK: Oh, man. That is the Czar of Talk, Michael Berry, our good friend out of Houston saying some very kind things there, in his own right a fantastic radio host. And the thing about Michael Berry is, you roll with Michael Berry in Houston and whatever you need, people are like, “Oh, yeah,” with Michael. Michael said, “All of a sudden you want to go roll around at the monster truck rally? We’ll get you down in the middle of the monster truck rally.” Whatever you need in Houston, Michael Berry’s got you.

CLAY: He is a great dude. We love all of our people down in Houston.

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CAROLLA: Hey, Clay and Buck. It is Adam Carolla and I love listening to your program. I hear it every day. Doing one best-of on the weekends? Probably gilding the lily a little bit. Five days a week is a lot of Clay and Buck. But at year in and I couldn’t be prouder. Keep up the great work.

CLAY: That’s Adam Carolla, obviously, who had one of the funniest shows, Buck, that has ever aired on cable in The Man Show back in the day, and he is still great as a stand-up comedian. He’s a big fan of the show, listens out in L.A. when he’s traveling around, driving around town, so it’s great to hear from him. We’ve had him on the show several times and look forward to having him on again.

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SEN. CRUZ: Clay and Buck, just wanted to congratulate you on one year of a tremendous show together. You guys are carrying on the legacy of the immortal Rush Limbaugh. I’m proud to call you both friends. This is Ted Cruz saying to Clay and Buck, “Thank you for standing up with courage, speaking the truth, defending liberty, and defending the Constitution.” God bless you guys.

SEN. JOHNSON: Hey, Clay and Buck, Ron Johnson here. Happy one-year anniversary. You guys had some really big shoes to fill, and you’re doing a fantastic job. Thanks for telling America the truth.

BUCK: Very kind words there from Senators Cruz and Johnson, two of the greats from the Republican side of the United States Senate and frequent guests and friends of the show. Just good guys, real patriots, people that do their country honor by serving their country — and, Clay, it has been quite a year, my friend.

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Behind the C&B Theme Music with Jeremy Popoff of Lit

21 Jun 2022

CLAY: We are joined by the man whose music you just heard bringing us back into the third hour of the program. He is Jeremy Popoff from the band Lit, and, Jeremy, I’ve gotten to know you in Nashville. What does it mean for you — as a, I know, very much longtime Rush Limbaugh fan and listener — to have your music now connected to the audience that we are speaking with every single day?

POPOFF: Ah, man. Well, first of all, I’d like to wish you guys a happy anniversary and we’re big fans of the show.

BUCK: Thank you.

POPOFF: I was in England when you texted me about possibly using the song and everybody was super fired up. So it’s a real honor for us. Yeah, we’re just truly humbled and honored that you picked our song and we get to be a small part of the show each day and it’s awesome.

BUCK: Jeremy, we so appreciate it, and we think Lit is a great band. I’m wondering, that guitar riff, you’re the lead guitarist of the band Lit and that guitar riff people hear at the top of the show, I would argue it’s one of the most iconic guitar riffs of the 1990s — one of the most memorable, one that really sticks out. I’m just wondering how this came together — this is like our Behind the Music moment here.

POPOFF: (laughing)

BUCK: Were you hanging out on the beach with an acoustic and having some fun? I mean, how’d this come together?

POPOFF: Man, we used to have a warehouse in Anaheim. The band is originally from Anaheim, California, and we had a warehouse that was a man cave before we knew what a man cave was. And we spent every night there for several hours and that’s where we practiced and wrote and hung out with our friends and did all that stuff, and that riff just sort of spilled out one night.

BUCK: Do you remember playing it and realizing, “Oooh, that’s really good?”

POPOFF: I mean, we thought it was cool, but we think all our songs are cool when we’re writing ’em, you know?

BUCK: (laughing)

POPOFF: So,actually, one of our good buddies Tony, who was kind of like the unofficial fifth member, he was kind of like, “I don’t know, man. I don’t really like that song.” So, we ended up… We didn’t play it for a few shows because we were self-conscious about it ’cause Tony didn’t like it. (chuckles) But, yeah, what a crazy thing, man: Two notes and some lyrics that were probably written to be maybe changed or modified when we had time to get to it.

And then it just sort of took off and became something that we would have never dreamed that it became. And, yeah, really just blessed and just yesterday, we must have had a hundred thousand messages sent to us. There was that viral video yesterday of the bride playing drums to it at her wedding, and it’s just like a weekly thing where it just, like it takes on this life of its own. It’s just crazy.

CLAY: Jeremy, one thing that Buck and I wanted to make sure we did when they told us that the music was coming up and we needed to come up with a new open to our hours was we said, “We don’t want to end up with a musician or a group that doesn’t like our audience and doesn’t respect our perspective,” and I was so excited to know you. You relocated your family from California to Tennessee, and you were super upset with all of the restrictions that were going on with covid.

So, when I told Buck that, he was like, “Oh, man, these are our guys.” But kind of explain how you ended up making the move to Nashville and what your response was to the government telling you, “Hey, this is what you can do; this is what you can’t do.” There’s a lot of musicians now that seem to embrace the nanny state. When oftentimes artists and musicians historically have been about rebelling against the power structure. There’s an awful lot of musicians and artists now who say, “Hey, regulate me more,” which to me is the antithesis of what art should be.

POPOFF: It’s crazy how full circle it’s become with a lot of musicians and especially the guys that are supposedly more punk rock and more edgy or alternative, and they have just sort of gone the way of the buffalo, and just sort of follow whatever they’re being told to do. (sigh) Look, we’re an American rock ‘n’ roll band. We were very just middle-class dudes that grew up in Anaheim, which is not the fancy part of Orange County. (chuckles)

And we just were hardworking, do-it-yourself guys who believed much more of just our freedom’s not negotiable. Leave us alone; let us do our thing. We’re also… We play by the rules. We’re respectful dudes and we’re family guys and we have our values and stuff, but we’re just kind of like, “Hey, man, we’re grown-ass men now. Leave us alone and let us do what we want. We’re not hurting anybody. We’re just what we want to do.” But it blows our minds to see just how many of our peers have just like lost their balls somewhere along the way or something. (chuckling)

CLAY: No, that’s well said. I think that’s a hundred percent right.

BUCK: We’re speaking right now to Jeremy Popoff, lead guitarist of the band Lit, and for those of you who are wondering where that music, the song you’re hearing at the top of the show comes from — it’s the one-year anniversary of Clay and Buck — we got this new theme song that gets everybody fired up. Do you think, Jeremy, that there’s…? I think right now — I’ll just put this out there — there’s a little bit of a turning away from the monolith in the arts that we’ve seen or just the demand that everybody…

Whether you’re in sports, whether you’re in Hollywood, whether you’re in music, that entertainment is just so the province of only one side of the national conversation. And do you think we’re heading toward a little bit, at least… I’m not saying people that are Republican or conservative necessarily who are in music and in the arts, but just understanding that without freedom, you actually can’t be an artist and therefore you have to actually defend individual freedom at some level.

POPOFF: A hundred percent. Look, I think the reason why your show is number one in so many markets and is so popular and refreshing is because I don’t think it’s about being far right or far left. I think it’s about people are starting to realize, like, you guys just make sense. It’s just common sense and it’s not about politics. It’s about, like, what are we doing here? And it’s so much more… When I listen to you guys, I’m just like, “Who’s gonna disagree with this right now? Does it…?” You know what I mean?

BUCK: We feel the same way. We feel like everyone should be listening and agreeing. So, there you go.

POPOFF: Well, I think it’s a balance of we all get together with our buddies and, listen, I’ve got a lot of friends from all over the spectrum of beliefs and religions and faiths and politics, whatever. At the end of the day, we all get together and have a beer and we agree on way more than we disagree on, and all we really all want to do is be happy and healthy and raise our families and be able to have a shot at the American dream. So, who doesn’t agree with that? And then call me and let’s (chuckles) have conversation about it ’cause I don’t understand how you’re not on that page, you know?

CLAY: Jeremy, you and I met for drinks with Tomi Lahren. We were out watching an Alabama-LSU football game in 2020 in Nashville when there were still restrictions on how long bars could be open. Our mutual friend Steve Ford owns a bunch of bars in downtown Nashville and was chomping at the bit over what was allowed, and we left that bar to go back to your house, and you had the Utah football game on.

By the way, Salt Lake City is one of the cities where we’re number one, and I walked in, and I was like, “Oh, this guy must be a pretty big college football fan.” Your son was a student manager, it turns out, on the Utah football team, and so you were watching that game. But I’d always been a fan of your band and certain of the iconic songs that you’ve produced including the one that we’re using to start every hour. But that was where I said, “Oh, man this is the dude who overlaps with me in a lot of different areas,” and that was during a time when the city of Nashville was trying to say, you couldn’t have more than, like, five people in your house, which kind of goes to the whole point of how absurd all this was.

POPOFF: Well, if you remember that night, too, the cops were called from a neighbor and, yeah, ended up being a whole thing.

CLAY: What…? By the way, for people who don’t know, we went back to watch college football games and have some drinks when the bars were shutting down. Your house in Davidson County, which is where Nashville is, the cops showed up. I think there are like 15 or 20 people there. It wasn’t like it was a raging house party.

POPOFF: No.

CLAY: Everybody was pretty much indoors just having a few drinks and watching some football. It wasn’t even that late and the cops came — which, by the way, is just an element of how crazy it was. Whatever ended up happening with that?

POPOFF: Well, that was my brother’s house that time, and, yeah, he got arrested. He had to go to court, and he had to do community service and pay a fine and hire a lawyer. And, yeah, you’re right. It was about 15 people there, and I would say eight of them were standing out on the deck having a cigar or a cigarette or whatever, and there was a handful in the house within also 4,000-square-foot house with plenty of space and tall ceilings and everything else (chuckling) and they come in to the backyard or whatever and they were like filming us from the backyard. It was a real odd, odd experience — and, honestly, I think it was probably the next day that my wife and I started looking at houses outside of Nashville. We ended up moving out by you, out in Franklin.

BUCK: It sounds like Fauci was gonna appear at any moment. You guys have more than 10 and he’s there.

CLAY: Think how crazy this is. Buck, this is Nashville, Tennessee, a city known for creativity and people having a good time. We’re not talking about, like, 400 people at a house. And they arrested your brother for having, like, 15 of us over and for violating the law about how many people you could have over at your own home. And a bunch of those people, to his points, were standing on the backyard deck outdoors smoking cigars or drinking beers around a little fire pit, if I remember correctly?

POPOFF: Yeah. You’re a hundred percent right. (chuckles) It was pretty insane. Yeah. You know, Gavin DeGraw was there that night, too, and I remember standing out there talking to the officers out in the street — which, by the way God bless them, and they were just enforcing some silly order that they were handed down by the mayor, and you know they weren’t stoked on getting us.

They drew the short straw that night and had to be on house patrol shift or whatever. But they kind of had a look on their faces like, “Yeah, tell us about it. This sucks,” you know? But I remember Gavin saying to a couple of them like, “So wait a minute. You’re telling me if I have a 20,000-square-feet house, I can still only have 15 people over or eight people?” or whatever the number was. But it was one of those things that just didn’t make any sense. It didn’t make any sense. A one-bedroom apartment is the same as a six-bedroom house?

BUCK: None of it made any sense, Jeremy, ’cause all those people got covid probably twice anyway and don’t even get me started on that.

CLAY: How perfect of a Nashville story would it be, Gavin DeGraw, the band Lit, Tomi Lahren, Clay Travis, all get arrested for having beers in a private home and violating covid law? I mean, I feel like people are gonna look back on this and say, “This is one of the dumbest things that’s ever occurred in United States history.”

POPOFF: Yeah.

BUCK: All right, Jeremy, how do people check out the band? Are you guys still on tour or where can they go? Obviously, they hear the song listening to this show but if they want to hear more Lit songs or see you guys live.

POPOFF: We’re here in Southern California right now ’cause we just played Adam Carolla’s party and then the day before that we had the album release people, our new record just came out on Friday so if everyone wants to go give it a spin we would appreciate that. It’s called Tastes Like Gold. Go on iTunes and get it and check out Lit Band Official on any of the socials and give us a shout and, man, just we’re so stoked that you guys are playing us every day and supporting our band, and we love you guys and happy anniversary, and thanks for having me on today.

BUCK: Thank you so much, man. We’re honored to play the song. It’s fantastic. All the best to you and I’m sure we’ll see you guys, hopefully soon, maybe in Nashville.

POPOFF: Also, congrats to our good friend Tomi on her new show. Super stoked on that.

CLAY: No doubt. Debuted last night on OutKick. Yep.

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Democrats Slash Price on Photo with Kamala

21 Jun 2022

CLAY: I saw this story and I said “We should definitely mention this.” Kamala Harris. They are trying to raise money based on you get a photograph with Kamala Harris if you donate a certain amount of money. And Joe Biden’s vice president has become so unpopular that initially they were asking $15,000 per photograph. Now they have lowered their asking price all the way down to $5,000.

Now, many of you out there listening are saying to yourselves, “Wait a minute. Who in the world would even pay $5,000 for a Kamala Harris photo?” This is actually not that high when it comes to politicians that are much desired. People want that photo. They want to put it on their office wall if you’re a big Democrat supporter. The fact that they can’t even sell Kamala Harris meet-and-greet for 15K, and they’re now all the way down to 5K? I can’t help but laugh.

BUCK: That’s quite a sale, right?

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: I don’t know if anyone out there’s like a watch guy but if someone told you, “Hey, do you like my Rolex? It’s 15 grand,” and then a week later they’re like, “Actually it’s five grand,” you’d say, “That’s a fake Rolex,” right? That’s a big price reduction they’re doing in the Kamala Harris photo… But think, who really right now, who, that you can think of, meaning, you know, in very general terms, is gonna be to my knowledge excited about presenting it, to your point.

This is all about, “Oh, look at me. I’m connected in Democrat circles or Democrat donors.” Look, politicians on both sides do this. And I’m not… But the point is, who wants to associate their brand, their personal brand with Kamala Harris right now? And the answer is, even among Democrats, very few people.

CLAY: They don’t want the photo of Kamala on their wall. And we need to point out, Kamala dropped out of the Democrat primary before a vote was even taken. She was polling at 1%, no one liked her, the more times Democrats saw her speak, the less support they wanted to give her.

BUCK: Not before calling Joe Biden an old racist on stage in one of the Democrat debates, nor before her announcing, “I’m obviously a top-tier candidate.” Not so obvious, it turned out.

CLAY: This is part of the larger question that Democrats are going to have to answer, and this is why this discussion has begun more in earnest already. The Republican back bench — in other words, the contenders who could be president from the Republican Party — is way deeper than the list of Democrats. They have a huge generational divide, and then the people who are younger — the AOCs, the Mayor Petes of the world — no one actually likes them in terms of the larger base because of how left-wing they are.

Biden is helping to cover up the fact that there is no back bench in the Democrat Party. I mean, they’re trying to draft Beto. They’re gonna talk about bringing back Bernie and Elizabeth Warren — who, by the way, Rush coined the phrase Fauxcahontas, which obviously is a little bit different than Pocahontas, even wittier.

But that is where that started to take off in earnest and then Trump just came in and went straight Pocahontas. But I don’t see anybody in the Democrat Party that I would say, “Oh, this is the candidate that everybody is going to end lining up behind.” I don’t see any great back-benchers waiting to be president in their party right now.

BUCK: They’re gonna run AOC at some point, but that’s years down the line. It’s not quite her time yet, I would think, but Democrats… When I say run, I’m not sure she’ll get their nomination even, but she’ll certainly be in the mix as a Democrat contender, just based on name recognition and personal brand alone. Our friend — who gave some very kind words earlier in the show about this show — Jesse Kelly, has an idea.

He thinks — I saw him put this out on Twitter — that Eric Adams, the narrow of New York City, could be a sort of surprise contender for the Democrats in 2024. This is in a “Biden’s not running, let’s let the Democrats have an open primary world,” which I’ll be honest with you, someone put the odds up to me or someone said, “You gotta have another bet,” I think Biden’s running again right now. I think he thinks he’s running again against Trump and therefore he’s going to run again. But put aside whether that’s true or not, Clay, do you think Eric Adams is somebody who just as the mayor of New York City? I think he’s already such a disaster to New Yorkers that I feel like his brand is questionable.

CLAY: Yeah. I don’t think he would play very well nationally ’cause I don’t think the story he has to tell for New York City is very good. I understand the argument of Democrats made such an awful choice in defunding that they need to swing totally in the opposite direction and put a former cop on the ticket to try to inoculate themselves from that criticism that is a hundred percent valid because crime has skyrocketed all over the country. But I don’t think Eric Adams is that person who can end that that criticism — and, frankly, he hasn’t seemed that adroit on the national stage, whenever he tries to step in and talk beyond New York.

BUCK: I feel like whenever we get an opening, though, you think Hillary…? You think she’s not done yet. You think Hillary is still waiting in the wings.

CLAY: I do. I think ultimately when you look at all of the available options out there, what Hillary wants to have happen is for everybody to come to her on bended knee and say, “You’re the only person out there who can bring the Democrat Party to the White House in 2024.”

BUCK: So but how, then…? Let’s look at that narrative for a second. You have Biden who — Democrat perspective here — Biden beats Trump; Hillary loses to Trump. So how can you…? The Democrat apparatus replaces the winner, in a sense, with the loser based on the fact that Hillary’s, what, six or seven years younger, something like that?

CLAY: I think also you have to consider that Trump may not be the nominee. There’s a big New Yorker piece out there about DeSantis.

BUCK: Well, that changes everything.

CLAY: Battle royale, and the only way I think Biden’s the nominee is if Trump is running because they think, “Oh, he can beat Trump again.” I don’t think he would. I think Trump would squash Biden without covid hanging out over everything and given how poorly Biden has done. He can’t sell the “I’ll make things normal” when he’s been the most abnormal president in generations in terms of his actual presidency.

BUCK: I appreciated that you sent me that New Yorker profile piece. Supposed to be a hit piece on DeSantis. It was great. You love reading a hit piece when it’s essentially making the argument that, “Yeah, Ron DeSantis, when other people were out partying and doing kegstants, he was like, ‘I’m gonna work two jobs to pay off my loans and go serve in the military after I graduate from Yale and then Harvard,’ like a loser!” It was really funny.

CLAY: There was a line in there from one of his teammates where he was like, “Oh, he was basically a jerk, and he was always working really hard all the time, and his papers were so good that other people couldn’t claim they were even his work because he came up with such original thoughts — and, oh, by the way, he said ‘no’ to the experts and opened up Florida,” and I was like, “Yeah, these are all things that are very positive!”

BUCK: Even the snide comments that they could get from people that allegedly knew him in his past were either dripping with jealousy and/or just made him sound even cooler(laughing) It was amazing.

CLAY: I think that battle is gonna happen, but I wonder if they’re gonna circle back to Hillary because I’m not sure that anybody else is able to get the nomination, and I think you can’t underrate: Kamala is black, and she is a woman. By the Democrats’ own standards, if Biden were not running, it will be racist and sexist for her not to be the nominee. So, I think that knocks out a lot of people. Hillary at least could end the sexist argument if they could find a consistently good… The Eric Adams argument, he’s a black guy so that would at least take the race out of equation. But I don’t know how you knock out both the woman and the minority without being racist and sexist.

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