The Regime’s Not Interested in Where Covid Came From

26 Apr 2022

BUCK: Oh, she just walked out on him, apparently.

“Can you speak about anything that President Biden has done to determine the source of the coronavirus with China?”

JEN PSAKI: …………….. pic.twitter.com/wjbuMADAe5

— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) April 25, 2022

BUCK: Jen Psaki gets asked a question there by a journalist about what Biden’s doing to find out — shouldn’t we know — the origins of covid? My friend, they’re gonna want to stop talking about so much when it comes to covid, especially now that it seems the guardrails on Twitter when it comes to covid conversation may be removed. Let’s be clear.

That is one of the main areas of their suppression campaign all along here has been getting rid of our ability to have honest discussions about what they call “disinformation.” Twitter was saying it was advertising information to talk about the origins of covid in China. Isn’t it fascinating, Clay? China has concentration camps right now today.

But the notion that they might have been engaged in some biological research in a lab that we need is doing virus research and weren’t exactly honest when they had a little mistake moment? That was beyond the pale. “No, no, it came from a pangolin, or was it a bat, or was it a bat and then a pangolin.”

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: But they never found the intermediary species like they’ve been in the past when there have been outbreaks like SARS before. There was disinformation. Let’s be honest. Did you know what a pangolin was when you heard it?

CLAY: No, I had no idea.

BUCK: I feel like I’m pretty good with knowing what the animals are in general. And I was like, “A pangolin?” I had no idea what that was.

CLAY: How about the fact that they sold the idea that the wet market, which was basically right next door to the virology laboratory?

BUCK: Yeah.

CLAY: They sold that from the get-go and got so many people to buy into it when any… Occam’s Razor: If you just basically look at the facts and eliminated everything else, you’d be like, “Well, probably the highly infectious disease came from the highly infectious disease laboratory,” right?

BUCK: Right.

CLAY: If you were just thinking about what the most likely outcome for how covid arose. Hence that would clearly be it.

BUCK: The wet market situation is also fascinating. That’s not a rarity in China for there to be these.

CLAY: They’re everywhere.

BUCK: It’s like an exotic animal food market. Gee.

CLAY: Yes.

BUCK: And it really stretches back to Mao because Mao’s Great Leap Forward and agricultural policies — which led to the Great Famine and the massive starvation of millions and millions of Chinese. One of the things that people did just to try to survive was to begin to cultivate these wild and, in some cases, even rare species for food.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: That’s the origins of the wet market. So this is all over China. And then the Chinese Communist Party, it’s become so much a part of Chinese culture, Chinese Communist Party makes money off of these wet markets, obviously, so they don’t really want… They’ve started to shut them down in recent years. They don’t really shut them down, though, because it’s a source of profits.

But think about that: Bad Central Planning led to the wet markets which, the wet market in this case was next to the virus research lab which is also the product of their Central Planning and lack of accountability and transparency. But I just note the Biden administration, you think that they want to find out that we were right and they were wrong on yet another issue? No, I do not think they want to do a thorough deep dive investigation into the origins of covid.

CLAY: Now you really can’t do it, either, based on how long it has been since covid initially emerged. We had the WHO investigation, which was a complete joke. I don’t think we’re ever going to have a definitive, “This is where covid came from” story for a hundred percent certainty, which is why I think you have to look all the surrounding circumstances.

And, by the way, the result, the CDC — to the extent you still trust them — came out with data earlier today, Buck, and we’ve been talking about what percentage of people have natural immunity in the population: 75% of kids, according to CDC data in February, have been exposed to covid — 58% of adults, 75% of kids.

BUCK: Antibodies. They basically were infected and had an asymptomatic case, right? We’ve all —

CLAY: A hundred percent.

BUCK: A hundred percent of America unless you literally lived in a basement that you did not see a human being has been exposed. But, I mean, three out of five people, Clay just sent this to me in the break. It’s a CNBC piece here. Just based on a new CDC analysis, three-out-of-five people now have antibodies from a previous covid infection.

CLAY: Yes. Not from the vaccine.

BUCK: Right.

CLAY: These are people who actually had covid and recovered.

BUCK: So 60% of America basically got covid is what they’re telling us. I still think that number is probably a little low.

CLAY: Probably ’cause a lot of people’s immunity would you have faded. This is in February, the number. So if you got it back in November or July or September of 2020, you might not have tested positive. But the wild thing is, even right now by the CDC’s own data in February, Buck, 75% of kids — 64%, I believe, the number is, between 18 and 49 years old.

BUCK: Hold on a second. Are you telling me that children intermittently putting little Batman cloth masks on their faces during their school day didn’t keep them so safe from the virus that wasn’t even a danger to them in the first place? Gosh! Almost like what we’ve been saying for two years now.

CLAY: Think about the numbers there, Buck. If 75% of children — even by the CDC’s data in February — already have had and recovered from covid, the chances of your kid getting covid and dying from it are… We have said infinitesimally small for a long time. They’re actually even tinier than we would have ever believed in the past. These numbers, again, just coming out from the CDC, CNBC writing about it, just further illustrate that we don’t need to do anything to kids. Your kids don’t need a covid shot. They’ve probably already had it.

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Douglas Murray on Fighting Woke Left Racists

26 Apr 2022

CLAY: We are joined now by Douglas Murray, associate editor of The Spectator and author of the new book, The War on the West, and, Douglas, we’ve been talking a lot about potential impacts of Elon Musk buying Twitter. But I’m curious in your analysis, when did this war on the West really start? Is there a moment in time when you can point to it and say, “This was the pivot point. This is when this idea sort of became ascendant that the West was more of a problem than it was something to be praised”?

MURRAY: Well, it’s great to be with you. I think there have been a number of moments, but one of them is just the postcolonial period, the period countries like Great Britain — where I was born myself — stopped having colonies and independence came to these countries. It started as a movement of postcolonialism that in large part sort of saw itself as a rejection of the West.

I know people in the West who took part in that themselves, the 1960s generation, the 1968 generation. Then the 1970s, you start to get American academics playing around with the things we now call CRT and the much more — and then this accelerates and accelerates. I say in my book, “You can sometimes overemphasize what happens on campuses,” so I like to say, “Well, what was happening in the wider culture as well?”

And think back 20 years ago or so when Michael Moore published his book Stupid White Men, and has a chapter saying that if you look at any problem in world history, it’s a white person that’s behind it, and this stuff starts to be normalized in the dialogue, starts to be normalized in the conversation. You have people starting slowly — to begin slowly and then fast — pulling down all of the heroes of countries like ours.

In Great Britain, Churchill turned from a national hero to a national demon, where his statue is unsafe to even have out in Parliament Square in Westminster because people assault it because he’s guilty of having lived in the nineteenth century and having nineteenth century thought. And then in America, the war begins not just on white people in America.

But specifically over single hero of the American republic, every one of the times Founding Fathers, and it speeds up and it speeds up and it’s not just the people in The South in the Civil War but the people in the North. Suddenly Abraham Lincoln, not the hero of American history but a great villain. You have the whole founding date of America moved by the New York Times, by the paper of record to 1619 so that everything in American history is seen in a negative, hostile light.

So this country of America — the greatest experiment on earth — is not a story of triumph that you want to aspire to but a story of racism, slavery, and just embarrassment and shame. That has been growing for decades, and in the last couple of years, it’s just gone on heat and it smashed through every single thing in the culture.

BUCK: Douglas, it’s Buck. You know, one of the things that you point out in the book I think is so interesting is there are these very rapidly evolving — and obviously very hypocritical — standards that they’re use for people in the past being judged by the leftist ideology of the moment, but they don’t do this to leftists in the past.

MURRAY: They don’t.

BUCK: You point out that Marxist, Karl Marxist, whose work is full of racial slurs and anti-Semitism, he gets a pass. The repression and virulent anti-gay actions of even someone like a Che Guevara, they don’t deal with that. So it feels like they just weaponize this new ideology or the fad — the political fad — of the moment against certain people in the past. Is to what end? What are they trying to do? What are they trying to achieve with all this?

MURRAY: Well, you’re quite right, Buck. I quote one of the great racist hucksters of our day, the man who calls himself Ibram X. Kendi. Kendi attacks Thomas Jefferson because of one excerpt from a letter of Thomas Jefferson that he totally misrepresents, and as a result of which labels Thomas Jefferson a racist. So, say, okay, you’ve decided that Thomas Jefferson is a racist, everybody in the past is a racist.

Well, why don’t you say this about Karl Marx? And since my book has come out, will be out today, there have been excerpts in recent weeks including this point about Karl Marx, I’ve had loads of Marxists come out of the woodwork and say, “Well, Karl Marxist was a man of his time.” Hmm. Like Thomas Jefferson?

BUCK: (laughing)

MURRAY: Then they say things like, “We don’t look at Marx for his amazing views on race. We actually look to Marx for his amazing views auto economic theory.” Of course everybody in America could only admire Thomas Jefferson only because of his attitudes on race. Of course not. We admire Thomas Jefferson and the Founding Fathers because they founded America.

So these people keep demonstrating the fact that they’ve rigged a game, they’ve rigged a game which is anti-Western, anti-white, anti-American in particular. And you ask why they do it. I’ll tell you why they do it. They talk of this as if it was about justice. It isn’t about justice. It’s about revenge. It’s revenge. The whole thing is revenge on America, revenge on white people, revenge on the West. It is a completely racist movement that has got hold in our time, and I wanted to arm people with the facts we need to push this movement out of our lives.

CLAY: Do you think we will win? I think this is a big question, right, because people look around, many of our listeners, and say, “I never would have believed that United States would be as crazy it is right now.”

MURRAY: Mmm-hmm.

CLAY: And “crazy” obviously is a broad category. But you look around on a day-to-day basis, and we really have it seems lost control of our faculties.

MURRAY: Yeah.

CLAY: So will we win this battle? And if so, how do we win this battle from your perspective?

MURRAY: Well, here is what white Americans and white people in the West are being told. We are being told that we are uniquely guilty. We’re guilty of things that happened centuries before we’re born. We are born into guilt. Everyone else is born into innocence. Nobody else has anything else to atone for except for us. We are told that everything in our history is rotten.

All of our heroes were scoundrels, we have nothing to be proud of. We never did anything good in the world; everything we did was bad. Our whole culture is rotten, racist, riven through with white supremacy and much more. So the best thing we can do is to be born, discover how guilty we are, and then die as soon as possible.

Now, here’s a proposal for you. I think if you tried to do this — if you tried to argue this and make people believe it — from a minority community, it wouldn’t work. Who would want to be told that for year upon year, for generation upon generation? I don’t think it would work with a minority. Here’s the thing: The race hucksters — many of whom are white themselves like Robin DiAngelo.

The race hucksters are trying to make a majority population believe this about themselves, a majority population in the United Kingdom, a majority population in the United States of America. And I do not believe, in the long term, that that can succeed. What majority population would put up with this for very long? You know?

I believe most American people like most other people in the West and indeed in the rest of the world want to think well of themselves, want to have justifiable pride in the things they’ve done well. They don’t want to hate their forebears. We’re only here because of our forebears! I quote Branch Rickey said once, “Luck is the residue of design.”

We in America are the luckiest damn country in the world, and we have evidence for it. It’s the country that most people in the world want to come to. Now, is that simply because of what we are now? No. It’s because of what we were. It’s because of the people who came before us. It’s because of the generations that came before us. It’s because of the Founding Fathers.

It’s because of Lincoln. It’s because of all of the heroes of America. So here’s the thing. I think they have no chance — no chance at all, these racists, these new racists — of persuading the American people and the Western publics as a whole of this horrible, horrible anti-white, anti-Western, anti-American stuff, unless they persuade us that their lies are true.

My self-appointed task — among other things — in The War on the West is to show people, to give people the ammunition to fight back against these people. Every parent in America knows what it’s like when their child comes home and has imbibed this racist pap from the classroom.

All of this stuff, they know what it’s like. They know what it’s like when their kids return from school, and they’re being told all these monstrous lies about American history. We need to be armed to respond to this — and I believe that if we are, there’s no way that the new race hucksters can win.

BUCK: The War on the West. That is the book by Douglas Murray. Douglas, great to have you with us. Thanks so much.

MURRAY: It’s a great pleasure.

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The Blue Check Double Standard on Ben Simmons and Simone Biles

26 Apr 2022

BUCK: Here first is ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith talking about the Brooklyn Nets guard — let’s play this one, 20.

Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving! pic.twitter.com/oFf4V1RvY8

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) April 25, 2022

BUCK: Clay, what did he do? I don’t know what he did.

CLAY: He didn’t play, Buck. He didn’t play. He’s been sitting out for a long time now. But what is fascinating about this… You just heard Stephen A. Smith — who’s the highest-paid person in the opinion business for ESPN — absolutely going off on Ben Simmons. He’s a Brooklyn Nets player, was supposed to play in Game 4. The Nets just got swept by the Boston Celtics.

Didn’t play and got destroyed. What I think is so fascinating about this is, Ben Simmons destroyed for not playing. Naomi Osaka and Simone Biles, when they decided not to perform, not to play their sport, it was heroic that they were choosing not to play, that they were putting their health first. And at the time, you talked about… (laughing) You talked about Simone Biles and just got crushed for it in media.

I talked about it and people are used to, I think, me talking about it, but my position on it was we need to treat male and female athletes the same, and so if a woman decides that she can’t play, we need to think, “Okay, what would the reaction be if Tom Brady suddenly said, ‘Hey, I don’t feel well enough to play in a big event.’”

He would get crushed, and that is perfect evidence that I was right because Ben Simmons is getting destroyed over not performing. And this is what is I said at the time: We have different standards of expected behavior for male and female athletes. Female athletes get held to a lower standard of expected performance, get treated better overall by the media, have excuses made for them — again using Simone Biles and Naomi Osaka as examples.

Whenever you criticize either of those women for not performing or not playing, Twitter blue checkmarks descend on you like a plague to attack you — as you well know, Buck, when that happened to you over the Simone Biles situation — but Ben Simmons, you just heard what Stephen A. Smith said on ESPN and everybody piled on alongside of him when Ben Simmons didn’t play.

BUCK: I’m starting to think that the woke left is lacking principles and standards and how they apply them. I’m starting to think…

CLAY: You’re starting to think that?

BUCK: I’m starting to think there’s some hypocrisy sometimes among Democrats out there in the way they view a whole range of issues, depending their personal political preferences and what they need in the moment, which, of course, is also why — I bring it all back — the notion of a free and fair and open system for sharing ideas and thoughts? Yeah. That’s something that really worries them.

CLAY: It’s also worries them, again, you have to analyze the victimization pyramid to determine how almost anything is gonna play on Twitter, right now. Maybe Elon Musk can fix that. But if you’re a woman athlete, then anybody who criticizes you is sexist and it’s unacceptable. You’re a male athlete who doesn’t play, open season. Everybody can tee off.

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Miranda Devine on the Twitter Takeover and Hunter Latest

26 Apr 2022

CLAY: Miranda Devine, who deserves multiple different Pulitzer Prizes for her work with the New York Post, in particular on the Hunter Biden investigation. And, Miranda, appreciate you joining us. Always fantastic. I want to start with this question: What do you think the situation will be with Twitter now with Elon Musk?

Do you have any indication, for instance, what his thoughts were on Twitter banning the sharing of your New York Post story from October of 2020 about Hunter Biden and the laptop, the implications for Joe Biden? Any sense of whether he at that time recognized that as being something that was the wrong choice by Twitter? Any idea, from your perspective, what this might mean going forward for stories such as yours?

DEVINE: Hi, Clay and Buck. Look. Nothing direct. But what we do know is that, A, Elon Musk is for free speech, so therefore would automatically be against the censoring of the New York Post story. And, B, we know that he has been talking and is friendly with Jack Dorsey, the founder and originator of Twitter, who has said in recent times that the biggest dysfunction at the company was the board.

And the board is the one that was implacably opposed to Elon Musk buying in and was talking about a poison pill, et cetera. They’ve now buckled and realized the reality, and I think it’s all good. You just see the meltdown there from Twitter employees, from lefties, from Democrats just screeching about the idea that somehow if Elon Musk comes on board that he’s going to censor people.

Do exactly what Twitter has been doing! so they’re just projecting. They’ve treated — and it’s so obvious now — they have treated Twitter and to some extent Facebook and Google and all the other sort of tech platforms as their own personal playthings, as their way to censor their ideological opponents and promote their own lies.

BUCK: Miranda, thanks for joining us as always. Did anyone after that incident, which I think very much led… the same mentality that had the suppression of the New York Post story about Hunter Biden’s laptop, then led to the actual ejection from Twitter of a sitting president of the United States. It should be noted, Facebook also went along with the suppression.

It wasn’t just Twitter right before the election. Just wondering if that company, if Twitter specifically or Facebook, actually, decided to reach out and try to… You know, this is pre-Elon buying it. I just want to know, did they ever apologize, did they ever say, “Hey, we’re sorry that you guys broke a big story and we crushed it because we didn’t like what it was telling the voting public”?

DEVINE: Not even the slightest. At least Jack Dorsey, when he was hauled before one of those stupid Zoom Senate inquiries, said, “Well, look, it was a mistake. We shouldn’t have locked the New York Post account for two weeks before the election.” Nothing from Facebook. And if anything, I think Facebook was the instigator of that censorship because you had a former Democrat employee who was in a very senior role at Facebook who announced — was the first to announce — this throttling of the story just a few hours after it went live in October 2020.

And so you feel like behind the scenes there was some really desperate coordination going on, coordinated by the Democrats with their pals in Big Tech. And they did it very quickly. And then of course it went on to their pals in the intelligence community where you saw John Brennan and the rest — you know, Leon Panetta and so on. Those 51 former intelligence officials came out five days after our story with that completely bogus letter saying that the laptop was “Russian disinformation.” But that serving as a fig leaf for the rest of the media to ignore the story before the election.

CLAY: We’re talking to Miranda Devine who deserves multiple Pulitzers for the work she did about the Hunter Biden laptop and its connection to Joe Biden. And I’m curious. We now know from your reporting that at least one of Hunter Biden’s business associates visited the White House. I believe the number was 19 times. What can you tell us about that relationship, those visits and what it might mean about Joe Biden’s knowledge and relationship with at least one of Hunter’s business associates?

DEVINE: Well, we’ve counted now, I think it’s up to two dozen of those visits. And, you know, one of them was specifically with Joe Biden, but the others are probably he met Joe Biden because they were with his senior officials or basically clerical assistance, often people signed in by someone other than the person that they’re meeting.

And we know that twice he went to visit Steve Ricchetti, who was Joe Biden’s chief of staff. He also had one meeting with Jill Biden’s staff. What it tells you is that Hunter Biden’s business was a family business. It was a Biden family business, and that was during the influence peddling overseas and raking in tens of millions of dollars from China and Russia and Romania and Ukraine and Kazakhstan, you name it.

And that money was flushing through the Hunter accounts, and Joe Biden was not only having some of his bills paid by his son Hunter but also Hunter’s senior business partner Eric Schwerin was visiting Joe at the White House also was doing Joe’s tax returns. He was involved in Joe’s mortgage. He also had signature privileges on one of the accounts that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden shared.

There was a tax check that Eric Schwerin told Hunter he was going to deposit that belonged to Joe, deposit into their shared account and then he was going to write another check for Hunter about that account. So there… It’s a very incestuous situation. This is an adult 52 years old. He and his father had a lot of business in common.

And Joe Biden also met multiple of Hunter’s overseas business partners. He met them overseas, like in Beijing. He also met them in Washington, invited them to his home at the Naval Observatory, the vice-presidential residence, and he went to at least one — I believe two — dinners at Cafe Milano, which is a Georgetown institution.

BUCK: Speaking to Miranda Devine, author of Laptop from Hell, which Clay and I highly recommend to all of you listening. Miranda, we know there’s this federal investigation of Hunter Biden underway by the U.S. attorney in Delaware. Do we have some sense…? I know there’s a lot of secrecy and grand jury proceedings, things like that aren’t able to be readily reported on.

But do we have some sense of what are they still looking for? I mean, one of the questions that I have going through all this is, we know there is a lot of money that was slushing around. We know that apparently Hunter Biden didn’t declare some of it in terms of IRS and the laws around that. We know he didn’t register as a foreign agent. What are we still trying…? What do we think they’re trying to find and what are you still trying to find out on used as a journalist?

DEVINE: You’re right. This is not a static story. There’s a lot going on as grand jury conditions its deliberations. You also have people’s lips are starting to be loosened. Those people… There are a lot of people thou that knew what Hunter was up to, how it was a family business and how Joe was involved. So far really online Tony Bobulinski, one of the former partners, has spoken.

But there are many others who know a lot, and we know that some of them have already talked to the grand, that testified there. We know that at least two of Hunter’s former lovers including his baby mama, London Roberts, have testified. And we know that the grand jury is asking questions like, ‘Who is the Big Guy,” and the Big Guy being Joe Biden.

That’s what Tony Bobulinski tells us and that’s what you can tell from reading the laptop and Bobulinski’s WhatsApp messages with Hunter and Jim Biden, the Big Guy is one of the names that they all used as sort of a code for Joe Biden. Also, Hunter also called him “my chairman.” So there’s a lot of involvement there as Joe Biden…

This family influence-pedaling scheme was orchestrated by Joe. Joe was intimately involved with it. He had been doing this since his earliest days in Delaware, and he just internationalized it and industrialized it when he became vice president. The money just got so much more because you had countries like China and Russia and Ukraine lining up at the door wanting to put money into the pockets of Joe Biden family members in the hope of a quid pro quo.

CLAY: We’re talking to Miranda Devine with the New York Post. Time frame-wise, do we have any sense, Miranda, based on this grand jury investigation…? The reason why I raise it is, obviously as we get close to the midterms, generally speaking they try not to bring out October Surprises.

I would be surprised if they did something in September or October. So if they’re going to bring charges in 2022, it would be either after the midterms I would think or it would be sometime a ways out, May or June. Do we have any sense if this grand jury is close to wrapping up, is close to making any decisions? It’s been going on for a while now.

DEVINE: Yeah. I think the best estimate would be May-June, even as early as later this month. They seem to have a lot of information. They don’t need everything. They just enough for indictment, and I guess that would be rest on the desk of Merrick Garland — or probably, more likely, one of his deputies, perhaps Lisa Monaco. And, you know, I think that it would be unwise of Merrick Garland to hold it up.

Because he’s already been burned last year with that story about the Department of Justice siccing the FBI on to parents at school board meetings; so I would expect that he will just allow, you know, the investigation to run its course and the chips fall where they may. Interesting that we just had Joe Biden issue his first pardons quite early on in his presidency. So maybe he’s just getting his pardon muscles limber before Hunter comes up.

BUCK: Clay loves hearing about the pardon muscle —

CLAY: Oh, yeah, love it.

BUCK: — ’cause he knows he’s got a bet with a certain Mr. Buck Sexton on whether Hunter’s actually gonna face charges. But, Miranda, great work as always, and people should go check out not only your latest at the New York Post, but also Laptop from Hell, the book. Thanks so much, Miranda.

DEVINE: Thanks a lot, guys!

CLAY: Well, you know, Buck, we’re gonna do our event in New York City in June for the one-year anniversary of the show. What if Miranda’s right and the charges could have already come down? I need to start doing my research on New York City steakhouess.

BUCK: Now you’re doing end zone dances before you even caught the touchdown pass, sir.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: Okay? Let’s calm down a little bit.

CLAY: There’s no harm with a little bit of a high step as you come close to the goal line.

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BUCK: Clay, it doesn’t seem like things are… It seems like the Democrats, with each passing month right now, they’re piling all these problems together. Mark Penn — he’s a Democrat pollster and strategist — was saying (summarized), “You’ve got nuclear war fears. You’ve got inflation fears. You got the worst border situation a long time. You got crime fears way up.”

I think that you start to believe, “Well, there must be some light at the end of the tunnel for the Democrats,” and unfortunately — and this would be bad for America too — could get worse in terms of the economy. Here’s CNBC saying we might be heading toward a recession.

BUCK: “Things are gonna get harder.”

CLAY: Stock market as we speak, Buck, down over 600 points. So this Biden… One thing that you could point to — if you wanted to — with Joe Biden so far in his tenure is that the stock market is up a small amount now during his tenure so far. That could well be negative — yet another negative — for the Biden administration that probably the stock market is one of the few things they can point to that hasn’t tanked relative to larger economic issues, and it feels like that may well change by the time we get to November.

BUCK: Doesn’t it all seem like we’re finally seeing some of the bills come due here? Doesn’t it seem like of course we’re heading into roughly financial waters when the consensus of the medical community… You notice how Fauci says (impression), “Why is the judge weighing in on medicine?” She’s actually weighing in on the law but that’s neither here nor there.

Did anyone ever sit around and say that Fauci at the time and Birks later on and Walensky — some of these big voices for the covid lockdown — don’t know a damn thing about the economy? They don’t know what the second order effects of lockdowns and shutdowns and trillions of dollars of additional spending and paying people to stay home and the supply chain issues and shutting down industries are.

I’m wondering when we’re gonna see more on this, but an economic the downturn in America means people deal with additional stress and you gotta worry about the mortgage payment. It’s very real. But the global economic the downturn from lockdowns which we still haven’t had a full accounting of how we even got into that process, in some countries it’s people go hungry, right?

In some countries when you have a recession or you have real economic dislocation, people suffer, people die — and lockdowns globally were a disaster. But, Clay, I feel like right now we’re starting to see what we were doing for a long time and what blue states in particular were often — let’s be honest — big engines of economic activity, big population states. What they did was crazy. It was crazy.

CLAY: Well, they didn’t consider any sort of multifaceted analysis. It was very childlike in the way that they contemplated it. Covid was all that mattered, and so they shut down, and then recovery from covid was all that mattered; so we spent money like drunken sailors. And, yes, I think you’re right. The bill is coming due now. And, unfortunately, we’re all going to have to pay for it. And I just saw…

I was trying to catch up on what’s going on on Capitol Hill as the House and the Senate are back in session. And Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema still, Buck, seem to hold the cards for anything that the Biden administration might try to do. Now, Joe Manchin to his credit has been right about inflation, and you and I are not economic stalwarts. We’re not geniuses.

We don’t have PhDs in economics like a lot of the so-called experts do, but I do know that our overall of interest rates have to get higher than inflation in order to somehow cure what ails our economy right now. We’ve got 8.5% inflation, and you can still borrow money at a 3% rate. Well, that’s not gonna work.

So we have to somehow bring down inflation while simultaneously raising rates so that we end up out of this crazy posture that we’re in right now where money is still cheap but it also is skyrocketing in terms of cost which is broken, which is why I think we’re likely going to end up back in a recession.

And if that occurs, how do we get back out of it? Do you trust the Biden administration in the next 2-1/2 years to come up with sound economic policy to pull us out of an economic tailspin? ‘Cause I really don’t. And the consequences for that are going to be, I think, unfortunately, severe.

BUCK: I don’t think we’re really dealing with rational actors when it comes to the economy and the Biden administration. I don’t think that they see what everyone is feeling and what’s actually affecting people right now and come away with, “You know what? We need to change course.” Where are they changing course? At best, you may think that they are gonna moderate some of their positions.

But to actually change course, which is what would be necessary — less regulation, allow more energy production, less taxation, allow for people to actually run their businesses and grow them — all the things that the left hates, all these things that they say they despise. Unless they’re willing to go back on some of their ideological sacred cows, we’re just gonna keep heading in this direction.

There’s no reason to believe this is going to dramatically improve anytime soon because why would it? And we’re not dealing with people who are gonna say, “You know what? We messed up on this one. We gotta go in the other direction.” This Democrat Party is incapable of self-correction on the economy, on the border, on crime. Yeah, maybe they’ll be a little less crazy, but to turn the ship around and take it in the other direction? Utterly unwilling to do that even when it’s been proven that what they were doing was wrong.

CLAY: Buck, think about how everything they’ve touched has turned to crap, and yet they would have been even worse if they hadn’t been protected by Joe Manchin, Kyrsten Sinema, and the courts. Because Biden would have passed Build Back Better which would have added trillions more dollars out there. Our inflation rate would be well over 10%, if that had passed because the government would have just continued to print money and throw it out haphazardly into the economy.

If the judge down in Florida doesn’t overrule him on that, if the Supreme Court doesn’t — on masks. If the Supreme Court doesn’t overrule him on the vaccine mandate, if Supreme Court doesn’t shut down the moratorium that he was trying to put in place on rent payments… Think about all of the things that he has done that are wrong. It’s almost impossible to point to something and say, “Hey, you know what? Biden got this right.”

In fact, Buck, I’m genuinely unable right now. Can you even think of…? Can you point to something and say, “Hey, given a decision to make, Joe Biden a hundred percent got X right?” Can you even fill in an X? Like, given the choice to make, if you were in the Biden White House right now, Joe Biden got X right, I’m not sure that I can even come up with a single thing — I’m racking my brain right now.

BUCK: His pick for vice president was really inspired. Let’s be honest. That was phenomenal.

CLAY: (laughing) I don’t even know. I’m genuinely racking my brain right now. “Joe Biden had to make a choice and, X he did correctly.” We’re coming up on two years in office, and I can’t even tell you one — and I’m legitimately thinking about it right now. It’s crazy.

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26 Apr 2022

CLAY: We also have our favorite ladies at The View. They are convinced that Elon Musk buying Twitter is a threat to all, particularly because “straight white men” dominate Twitter, according to Sunny Hostin. Here she is saying that it is going to be a scary place with all these straight white men able to say whatever they want.

Sunny Hostin on The View:

“It’s about free speech of straight, white men. So let them have it. Let them just go at it. I enjoy the block button on Twitter.” pic.twitter.com/dXC3xtNJ1W

— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) April 26, 2022

CLAY: I don’t even think that straight white men are that huge of a percentage of Twitter users. You and I are both straight white guys. So,in her case, yes, maybe. We do support the First Amendment. I actually think it’s crazy to make this argument, right, that white men are big First Amendment guys? I mean, I guess that’s good for us.

BUCK: I just gotta say, first of all, she spits out the words “straight white men.” You notice it’s like, “Ugh,” like she’s disgusted.

CLAY: Yeah. Oh, what an awful whole group of people.

BUCK: Disgusted by these straight white men.

CLAY: You couldn’t say that about any other group.

BUCK: I like everybody, right?

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: I like everybody. So I’m down to just sit here and say, why is it normal that someone would sit there and single out one group of people? There’s clearly, like, some disdain she has for them. By the way, it’s really straight white Republican men. That’s actually what she means.

She left out that part. But to her, those are apparently people just worthy of scorn. Look at the way she said, “Uh, these straight… I’m gonna get the block button ready for all the straight white men.” I don’t know, Clay. We’re pretty nice guys. We’re straight white men but we’re not bad people. (laughing) What’s the problem?

CLAY: Well, like, also you can’t say that about any other group, right? Like if she had said, “You know, that site, it’s majority bisexual Hispanic women,” and she had said it in a negative way?

BUCK: Oh, my gosh.

CLAY: Then she’d be done for.

BUCK: Oh, my gosh. Yes.

CLAY: Right? Like you can’t… Only straight white men are able to… She could have tossed in “believe in God, might like guns,” all those things you can just tee — those kind of people are the worst, but I don’t even think it’s true. I don’t get the sense that there’s tons of straight white men running around on Twitter.

BUCK: What are the first people banned from Twitter that I can think of was Milo Yiannopoulos who, say what you will about Milo, he is definitely not straight.

CLAY: Yeah.

BUCK: He’s very much a member of the LGBTQ community. It’s just not true. What they’re saying is just not true. It’s not about… But notice, no one’s sitting around complaining about how you can’t say, like, racist things on Twitter, you know, SNL made that joke recently. We’re saying you can’t sit here and have an argument about whether masks work using data, facts, statistics, and reason. That’s my problem with Twitter.

CLAY: Also, how about just don’t ban people for anything? The whole purpose of the marketplace of ideas, Buck — and you well know this — is if somebody misspeaks or says something wrong, fight about it. That’s how the marketplace works.

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BUCK: It seems a federal judge in Louisiana may – paradoxically, perhaps — go against what the Biden regime says they want and in doing so save them from the consequences of their own catastrophic decision-making going into this midterm election. Let me tell you what some of the details are here. “A federal judge in Louisiana has temporarily blocked the Biden administration from ending the Title 42 restriction that was put in place during the pandemic.”

It is a CDC authority to prevent people who — during a pandemic — might be carriers of the pandemic disease from crossing over into the United States illegally. And here we have Biden’s team saying on May 23rd they’re going to lift that; they’re going to get rid of that restriction. About half of the people who come into the country illegally across the southern border right now are being turned back on Title 42 grounds.

Now, keep in mind that means about half (more like 60%, I think) of those who are apprehended — that does not include got-aways, which is at least tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands a month. Got-aways being people who cross the border and are never apprehended and just make it into the interior of the U.S. So it’s the apprehensions that are affected by Title 42, understandably.

And people are asking questions here. People are wondering, “What is going to happen when Title 42 goes?” This federal judge has put a temporary restraining order in place. So this is not struck down. It’s not that Title 42 is gonna be around for a whole lot longer. We’ll see also what happens to this if it makes its way up higher in the court. Jen Psaki, White House propaganda czar, had this to say about where the administration stands on border issues.

Psaki is grilled over what the federal government might do to manage the crisis at the border:

“If we just dial it back a few years to kind of what we inherited here, the former president invested billions of dollars in a border wall that was never going to work…” pic.twitter.com/DbDdmJJQrG

— The Post Millennial (@TPostMillennial) April 25, 2022

BUCK: What she’s saying, Clay, is a lie. The border… Even incomplete border wall and fencing — any Border Patrol person will tell you — is very helpful, actually. But also, what else are they gonna say?

CLAY: Here’s what I would point out too: How about the White House’s silence on the death of the border employee who was helping to try to save lives?

BUCK: Army National Guard soldier Bishop Evans —

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: — who drowned trying to save migrants during their illegal crossing. He was trying to save lives.

CLAY: I want you to compare — and I saw Byron Donalds, who a congressman from the 19th district in Florida, tweet this out yesterday: How about the comparison between that young man who died trying to save illegal migrant crossers in the river, in the Rio Grande, compared to the amount of attention that the alleged whip issues on the horse got? Right?

The @WhiteHouse wasted no time falsely accusing border patrol agents of whipping illegal Haitian immigrants at the border but is noticeably silent on the death of Spc. Bishop E. Evans.

This silence should tell you everything you need to know about this administration.

— Byron Donalds (@ByronDonalds) April 25, 2022

The media… If you want to talk about a total rig job in effect, everybody out there listening, think about… By the way, that was a lie. Think about how little attention the fact that that was a lie, that those Border Patrol officers were riding on horses were allegedly whipping illegal migrants who are trying to come across got. It wasn’t true.

It was investigated, found to be not true. The White House, Joe Biden standing at the lectern, said that there were gonna be consequences for that. Have you heard anybody in the White House talk about this young man who died trying to save illegal migrant crossers? ‘Cause I haven’t.

BUCK: it took them days to even acknowledge his name publicly, took them days to even mention this. In the Democrat media, why isn’t there any coverage of just this guy? This is an American, a Texan, African-American, a member of the Texas National Guard who died serving his country at our porous, mess of a border because of left-wing lunacy about, “We don’t need borders! Who cares?” This guy is serving his country, dies, not a word, not a word from most of the liberal media outlets. I don’t know. Is the White House even officially addressed it yet?

CLAY: I haven’t seen a word about it. Not one — and look, this is emblematic of their failures at the border. We’re losing lives because of the southern border being overrun because people are trying their damnedest to do an incredibly difficult job. And the White House won’t even acknowledge them. And Jen Psaki, Buck, if you remember broke down in tears talking about, “Oh, the ‘don’t say gay’ bill” and how it was going to impact so many people.

Have you ever seen Jen Psaki break down in tears over the 13 soldiers who died in Afghanistan? I haven’t. Haven’t hardly even seen her address it. Certainly, we haven’t seen any emotion involved in it. So we’ve got White House officials who are willing to cry crocodile tears over bills that don’t even purport to do what they are claiming they do and they won’t even address actual people who are losing their lives because of the failed Biden administration policies.

This is really consequential, and I think it registers with the vast majority of the American public who are on the side of our Border Patrol officials, who are on the side of our American soldiers. And they won’t even mention any of this. And, by the way, it’s not just the White House. Why are they not getting questions about this from the White House media? Why isn’t Jen Psaki having to address the very real consequences in loss of life that are occurring because of this border surge that the Biden administration is driving?

BUCK: “White House press secretary…” and this is hat tip to Washington Examiner. “White House press secretary Jen Psaki emphasized that Evans, 22, was employed by the Texas state government under Operation Lone Star when asked whether President Joe Biden’s administration was responsible for his death as border communities brace for a surge in migrants during the summer months and after the rolling back of Title 42 on May 23.

“’We’ve long stated that our immigration system is broken,’ she told reporters Monday. ‘There needs to be more done to invest in smarter security, to have a more effective asylum-processing system, and we would welcome any efforts for any elected officials to work with us on that.’ Psaki also underscored how Biden had ‘inherited’ the system from former President Donald Trump. …

“Psaki did convey Biden’s sympathies to Evans’s family and loved ones, saying he and White House aides’ ‘heart’ goes out to them. … ‘We know that National Guard personnel, including him, risk their lives every day to serve and protect others,’ she said. ‘We are mourning the loss of his life…'” So they did address it.

CLAY: Okay. So she did address it. I hadn’t seen it covered.

BUCK: I hadn’t seen it. I wanted to check and make sure. And again, we always want to tell you what is true here all the time.

CLAY: Right.

BUCK: So I wanted to make sure. Now, that all said, why isn’t…? I certainly haven’t seen any news coverage of it in the context of Bishop Evans as a hero on CNN, Bishop Evans is a hero on the front page of the New York Times. I mean, this is a guy who died serving other people trying to save lives in the Rio Grande, and look, I think it goes to Democrats are uncomfortable with Border Patrol doing their jobs.

I know he’s not a Border Patrol member, but anybody who’s trying to work at border security. Even if you drown trying to save a woman and her child from drowning, there’s not the same focus on heroism of the act because the Democrats are uncomfortable with the presence of uniformed personnel at the border telling people, “You’re not allowed to come in.”

CLAY: Well, and it’s only gonna get worse unless this judge actually wins, by the way, is able to uphold the Title 42. This is something that an overwhelming majority of the Senate would be opposed to ending, too, which is much like the mask mandate that was 57-40, that many different Democrats in competitive states signed on with the idea that we don’t need masks anymore at airports.

This also was significant in that a lot of them are saying, “You can’t lift Title 42.” So we’re talking about 57, 58, probably, senators — which, given what we have, an almost evenly divided Senate, it’s almost impossible to get to 60 on anything. This would be a huge just shutdown of what Joe Biden’s trying to do, and to the point we made in the last hour:

The only thing I can think, Buck, is that they just recognize that they’re going to get destroyed in the midterms, because for the entire summer — May, June, July — when people are crossing the border at overwhelming numbers, it’s gonna be impossible to ignore. It just is. It’s going to be a five-alarm fire at the border, and the data reflects that even Democrats don’t agree with Joe Biden on the border.

BUCK: The White House is calling together Hill staffers today at the White House to talk about Title 42 specifically. They are trying to get everybody on the same sheet of music about what to say on this issue, how to handle the fallout from this. I think they’re assuming that the judge’s or the is not gonna… Remember, it’s not that Title 42 can never be lifted, it’s just the process, right? Title 42 is an emergency measure.

So what this is actually showing everyone is that there’s no plan beyond this to have any real limitation on anybody who comes to the border in large numbers and tries to come into America, not through the legal immigration process, right? At some point Title 42 actually does need to go, Clay. That’s the part of this that we need to remind ourselves of. But then that forces the Biden administration to look at the amount of illegal immigration that’s happening and what are they doing about it?

Right now, they’ve been able to say, “We inherited this from Trump. It’s CDC. It’s covid. So we’re keeping the numbers much lower than they would otherwise be.” The moment that goes away, they’re gonna just have to have Border Patrol members detain people and say, “You’re going back. It’s not about covid. It’s not about CDC authority. You’re going back.” And they don’t want that.

CLAY: And the data is overwhelming that independent voters by massive numbers disagree with what Joe Biden is saying. The data is reflective that Republicans certainly disagree with everything in the border — and even, again, Democrats on many issues. Of all the issues that Joe Biden is facing right now, inflation is probably the most difficult. I would say the border is likely to be the second most difficult by the time we get to the summer and this thing is actually reversed.

BUCK: They have no explanation for this. They have no moves to make other than lying about it, or agreeing that Trump was right and then actually taking measures, but they will never do that. Their base will completely freak out. They won’t do it. So it’s gonna get worse, folks. It’s a question of when. Iit’s a question of how long they hold on to all this.

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When did she get the second booster, Buck? I mean, the second booster is a relatively recent iteration, right? It hasn’t been around us for that long and — spoiler alert — she’s going to be fine, just like she almost certainly would have been fine if she had never gotten any of the four covid shots in the first place. So that is breaking news out there.

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26 Apr 2022

BUCK: We’re gonna dive into the latest on immigration, Title 42, getting removed or not, maybe. Got a judge who has said, “No, no, no. Not so fast,” and, ironically, this could actually benefit the Democrats and, honestly, the country against the Democrats’ protests and all the… We’ll get into that, though, and the politics around it, the realities of what’s going on at our southern border and of course some of the problems that we are already seeing that are happening because we don’t have an administration that believes in the rule of law when it comes to immigration.

But first there is — I think you’re noticing — a very real panic. Clay, they’re not quite at the just, “Run for the exits! Get to the bunker!” But the Democrats are definitely feeling right now like, “Uhhh, it’s almost May. May’s gonna turn into June real fast. Not a lot happens in politics over the summer,” and they’re looking at the reckoning.

CLAY: That’s right.

BUCK: We just call it #TheReckoning in politics this fall that we are telling you — and, by the way, we are pedal-to-the-metal. We are pushing all the way. A win that any Democrat on air at MSNBC isn’t basically in tears over is not good enough.

CLAY: (laughing)

BUCK: That’s the… If there aren’t lib tears on MSNBC, we will not be happy with the results. Here is a Democratic pollster — a very smart fellow, Mr. Mark Penn — saying that Democrats haven’t been scared like this in a long time.

BUCK: “Voters haven’t been this afraid in a long time.” You add all those big issues together, Clay, there’s nothing… What is the big…? I will just note: What is the big move that Biden could do without, in the eyes of his base, betraying them? There’s nothing. He’s not gonna do anything.

CLAY: That’s the only thing I think, ’cause the Elizabeth Warrens of the world may get their way where the Democrats recognize that they’re staring down an oncoming train and that there’s no way to step out of the way of it, and so they just decide to push through even more liberal, left-wing bills because they know they’re not gonna be able to do it for the next two years.

BUCK: I think that’s what we’re seeing. We’re gonna dive into the border situation and illegal immigration here in a minute — and we’ve kept our promise to you, folks. We are watching this closely, and every time we can tell you what’s going on there — ’cause the whole country needs to know about it. You just filed your taxes. You better or else, right, ’cause the rule of law…

Uh, there is no rule of law at our southern border. It’s a joke, it’s a mess, and the Biden administration isn’t just complicit. They’re pushing this. They’re making it impossible for Border Patrol to do their jobs and for us to actually have sovereignty. But, Clay, I think that maybe the whole Title 42 thing in the sense — this may be getting ahead of where we’re about to go – is they figure out, “You know what? Just open the gates.

“We’re gonna get crushed in the midterms anyway. Open the floodgates. We’ll turn them into Democrat voters in five years or 10 years or whatever. The far-left base will be happy. We’ll regroup after the midterms; then there might be some sanity. But for right now, let everybody in who can get here” is the idea because Democrats really do want an open border.

CLAY: That’s my concern, basically, is that they just go pedal-to-the-metal, recognizing that they’re gonna lose the House and that they’re gonna lose the Senate. Now, it’s important to mention — and we’ll talk about this with Title 42 when we come back — that there are a lot of Democrats, pretty much all of them in toss-up states — Arizona, New Hampshire, Georgia, Nevada, New Mexico even which is maybe kind of floating around out there.

There are a bunch of Democrats that are saying, “No, no, no, no,” to this Title 42 idea, and it makes me wonder how far left-wing might they go, because they basically given up on the chance of having any real success in the midterms and why not try and get things passed, in the meantime. I could see the Elizabeth Warrens of the world winning that argument.

BUCK: I think they’ve boxed themselves into a corner because anything that would stop the flow? Some of those things are what Trump was doing. You can’t do that, right, Clay?

CLAY: No.

BUCK: You can’t admit Trump was right on any aspect of the border? So what are they going to do? I think they’re gonna try to hide the numbers or hide the people rather who are coming in.

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