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Elizabeth Warren Suddenly Wants New Regulation of Social Media

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: We have Elizabeth Warren, someone who I do not miss. Here she is calling for new governance to social media sites. Play 3.

BUCK: She’s right. It does ultimately boil down to power because they want it and they’re afraid with the purchase of Twitter that they may lose some of it. That’s all this is. Notice hypocrisy, hubris, right? Now we’re back to hypocrisy. “Oh, the people that we want aren’t controlling the things that give us power,” in this case a major social media platform, Twitter.

“We’re just gonna change the rules. Our position in government changes depending on what’s going to benefit our power.” That’s all this is. Very straightforward, you know? If you understand how a Mafia operates, you understand the mentality at the top of the Democrat Party. “What’s good for us, that’s what we do. We don’t care. What did we say yesterday? Who cares what we said yesterday? Did we fool you? Great.”

Ah, yes, hypocrisy and hubris.

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Biden’s Ministry of Disinformation Exposes Democrats

29 Apr 2022

BUCK: Disinformation is what I want to dive into with you right now. Disinformation – or, as the Russians would say, “dezinformatsia,” ’cause they are practitioners — longtime active practitioners of it — both domestically and in foreign affairs: Government-sponsored, government-pushed lies, they think, for a higher purpose. That’s at least in the Russian context.

In the Soviet context as well it’s how it was going, how they used it. Then you have America today, what’s happening here? Democrats seem to think that they have an iron grip on the notion of “disinformation.” They’re the ones that get to determine, they’re the ones who know and understand what real disinformation is — and you aren’t allowed to say it.

This isn’t even a particularly clever way to nullify free speech, both as a cultural and political notion as well as a legal, constitutional one. They’re not even coming up with some new, fascinating argument here. They’re essentially saying, “It’s so dangerous what you think about things — covid, elections, the climate, you name it. Your thoughts are so dangerous….”

They’re saying that at least half the country, if not more, “that you aren’t allowed to share them.” And the government will both tell the biggest, most powerful companies when it comes to information dissemination, the social media platforms, the government will tell them, “Hey, go after these targets.” And now they’re even going to step beyond to a true page from Orwell’s 1984 with the Ministry of Truth.

Ministry of Truth, Ministry of Peace, Ministry of So Many Things that they’re setting up this “Disinformation Governance Board” within the Department of Homeland Security. So within the largest nonmilitary federal law enforcement and bureaucratic agency, right? They’re setting this thing up so that it can grow very rapidly.

But they’ve got an issue here. Who is going to run the disinformation board? The very notion of disinformation as an official government role, “We have to find all the lies and make the lies go away.” Anybody who believes in freedom — I don’t just mean free speech, freedom — should be on edge. But the Biden administration is so desperate; so pathetic, and so inept that things that they used to do behind closed doors now they’re doing out in the open. Arguments that used to be implicit are now explicit.

They’re saying the quiet part out loud and they’re taking action on it so now they have the disinformation governance board with Nina Jankowicz apparently tapped to head this thing. And there’s two levels where this is interesting. On the one hand, she is about as unserious and preposterous as you would expect the disinformation czar of the Biden administration to be. Here she is singing online about disinformation. I think this was on TikTok.

BUCK: Yeah, Soviet Mary Poppins is not somebody who should be in charge of anything. Let’s just understand that one right now. But she is. She is inspect, now, we could have some fun with the fact that apparently a musical theater nerd. Look, we all have our nerd things. I may be doing some history podcast recording over the weekend.

We have our nerd things. Musical theater is a very specific one, very specific. Folks that are into that, they tend to be alone in how much they love the musical theater stuff, but they love it. That’s not the point though. We’re having a little fun because she seems like an unserious person, but she’s a little propagandist. This also becomes quite serious when you think about this is a person that the government would turn to and say:

“Hey, you’re going to be in charge of this effort within the Department of Homeland Security,” right? You got TSA under this one. I think Secret Service is under it, I think the Coast Guard now. They’ve put all this stuff — Border Patrol — all these different agencies into DHS. It’s a monstrous organization, huge. And they’re gonna have this disinformation effort to root it out, to protect people from it, and this is who’s going to be in charge?

The funny thing is she actually has expertise in disinformation because she is a practitioner of it. She was a big proponent of the Hunter laptop story (which we’ll be talking more about later on in the show) is “a Trump campaign product,” not quite saying it’s Russian disinformation, although maybe that got in there, too. So this is somebody who is a partisan, clearly.

And when Jen Psaki over at the White House is asked about this, notice that she just won’t engage.

BUCK: The path to hell is paved with bored intentions, Psaki. What does that even — why do we even care what they’re ostensibly purpose is? I also think that she knows right now that this is a tough case for the White House to make. Doesn’t look good. So she’s dodging. She’s stepping aside, essentially, say, “Well, I have no idea.”

Let me tell you something. There are two characteristics of the left, which is now the vanguard of the Democrat Party. They call the shots. All right. The left wing of the Democrat Party is running the Democrat Party. Not every Democrat is a far leftist, but the Democrat Party is being run by leftists which is why it has gone so insane and why Joe Biden just…

Well, there are a number of reasons why he looks confused all the time, but that’s one of them. And you have to keep in mind hypocrisy and hubris, the twin pillars of the Democrat Party today in how they approach, essentially, everything. Hypocrisy and hubris. They’re hypocrites constantly, right?

You see this with the way they react to one social media platform, Twitter, possibly not being a province of progressives. All it takes is one, and all of a sudden they’re saying, “Oh, we need to… We can’t allow this. Government should step in. We need regulation! This is destroying our democracy.” Well, hold on a second.

I thought you guys pretended to be in favor of free speech. I thought you said, libs, “It’s a private company! It can do what it wants.” Now it’s not a private company that can do what it wants because your guy, so to speak, or your people are not gonna be in charge? They’re just hypocrites. And the mask mandates, “Oh, no!

“I felt like it was really important to be at a cool party without a mask on. I’m a lib. That’s okay. But all the rest of the people out there — whether they’re engaged in rigorous activity — it doesn’t matter. They should mask up. All the peasants should mask up.” That’s the attitude of the Democrat elites. You see this all the time. So hypocrisy is everywhere.

And on the disinformation issue, it’s hubris. Think about this. The Democrat Party right now should be in the midst of soul-searching over how they have gone so far, become so crazy, and gotten so many things so wrong. Just take covid, for example, right? They embrace their ability to shut down “disinformation” throughout covid. How many times were they wrong?

Even on some issues that they now they had to admit, right? Covid doesn’t transmit from surfaces. Oh, if you had said, “Washing your hands 30 times a day is stupid’ don’t do that.” “Disinformation!” they would have said. “Oh, okay. Where did covid virus coming from? I think it might have coming from a lab.” “Disinformation!” they shouted.

Or they just shut you down, kick you off the internet, said, “You were a threat to our sacred democracy with your disinformation line.” They have been wrong so much. They have, to any rational person on so many issues — the Hunter Biden laptop right before the election, go down the list. They should feel humiliated in their efforts to root out disinformation.

But instead, because they have so much hubris, because they are so arrogant, they say, “We’re doing a great job. We should do more of this disinformation hunting! We should set up a governance board within the DHS to find things that are out there that we don’t want making their way through different communities — untruths that are out there.”

Live not by lies.

Democrats are lying when they say that disinformation is some neutral threat, neutral concern, nonpolitical. “We’re just trying to make sure it’s just the facts, folks.” Spend two seconds going through the most recent “fact check” that you’ve seen around covid, from PolitiFact or one of these other organizations run by morons, read by idiots.

Go back and check the fact checking. You’ll see it’s just a partisan operation, laundering the talking points of the journos out there to make it seem as though they’re always right. Anybody who challenges them, has a different point of view is “factually wrong.” The left can’t even differentiate between fact and opinion as they have established so many times.

They can’t differentiate between judgment and a clear and objective reality, right? And now they want to set up a disinformation board? Well, of course. Of course they do. Because if they can strip from you the righted to say and speak the truth, they win — and they know it. That’s all this comes down to. Otherwise, they have to make the case. They have to present their arguments.

They have to explain. They have to explain why it is now an article of faith for the Democrat Party that you have to wear a mask even when you’re not wearing a mask because you’re masking up between bites and it’s all so stupid and we can see it. It’s an article of faith in the Democrat Party that men can menstruate and get pregnant. False. That is a lie.

But they want you to say it. Why does it matter to them so much? If they break down your ability to say what is true, then they think they destroy your ability over the long term to even know what is true, and that’s why disinformation is so important to them. They can’t make the argument so they shut down the other side of it.

And if you think it’ll just stop within DHS at this one individual running a few other bureaucrats? No. They will grow and grow. They think they are losing their grip on the narrative, and they are getting desperate. And that’s where this Ministry of Truth from the Biden regime is coming from.

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    28 Apr 2022

    CLAY: We are joined now by Dr. Marty Makary. He has been one of the true stalwarts for truth in what has been a crazy, insane covid era. And so, first of all, thank you. You’re also advising Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia. You’re at Johns Hopkins — and, Doctor, right off the top here:

    There’s been a lot of discussion about suddenly an emergency authorization for young kids to be getting covid shots. What is your analysis, now that we know according to the CDC that there’s at least 75% of kids with antibodies — meaning they’ve recovered from covid — with the idea of getting kids boosters, with the idea of young kids getting the covid shots?

    DR. MAKARY: Well, good to be with you. I would say for parents who are wondering what to do about vaccinating young kids under 5 years of age, 75% of kids have had covid, like you said. There’s zero data that if you had covid you’ll benefit from a vaccine at a young age.

    So there’s a small group of people who are not immune who have a significant medical condition, maybe leukemia, maybe they’ve got a glucose disorder. Those are the kids who could benefit. But by the time we get it, I’m not sure it’s gonna be relevant.

    We’re gonna have the authorization as early as June. You know, there’s a reason why these companies haven’t applied up until this time. It barely works. The efficacy is in the thirties in kids under 5. So, we need to just calm down. My fear is as soon as we get the authorization, it’s gonna be mandated for school.

    BUCK: Doc, can I follow up on that, because I’m very curious about why it is that now that we have even more data about the vaccines — more than ever before — just because of the passage of time, the numbers are getting higher, more people have gotten the shots, more people have gotten sick. We should have a really good sense.

    Any question we could ask about these vaccines should be more answerable now than ever about. On the stoppage of spread, we know it didn’t stop the spread as a categorical statement. Do we have any sense of how many the vaccines were even able to prevent transmission of covid, of the Omicron wave? Do we have numbers? Do we know? Will we ever know?

    DR. MAKARY: Look, if we’re gonna be honest, it really doesn’t do that. Plus this is a vaccine designed for a variant five variants ago for the original Wuhan strain. So people like Biden and Fauci that got four doses, they got four doses of the same variant-based vaccine, not like a flu shot each year.

    BUCK: Is that true for Moderna as well, by the way, for the emergency authorization? Is that essentially a vaccine geared toward the initial strength? Sorry to interrupt, Doc.

    DR. MAKARY: Yeah, they’re just redosing it. It’s a good way to make a lot of money if you want to do it quickly. If you really want to do something good they would have tested a Omicron-specific vaccine. But we have a public health community that believes all vaccines are good. It really doesn’t matter what the data shows.

    Any vaccine, rah-rah, we gotta push it. The reality is if you’re gonna recommend a vaccine to healthy kids, you need two numbers that we don’t have. How many health kids have died of covid? No one knows. The CDC director doesn’t know, so I doubt anyone else has that number. And the other is, what is the true incidence of vaccine-related complications? (chuckles) No one is honest about that because we do a pretty poor job collecting it. Most of our learnings are coming from overseas.

    CLAY: Dr. Makary, again, I just want to dive into one of the things you just said. You said you’re concerned that a lot of schools might be mandating the covid shot with the authorizations now getting to younger and younger kids and emergency use and all those things. What would you say to parents out there about the idea of covid shot mandates?

    How would you treat that if you had your own kids? And I don’t know how old your kids are at this point. But I’ve got, for instance, a 14-, an 11-, and a 7-year-old. My kids are not getting the covid shot. I think they’ve probably already had covid because my wife and I have both had it.

    This is a real fear I think for a lot of our listeners that that shot might be mandated as a part of returning to school in the fall. How realistic do you think those mandates might be, and what would you say to parents who are opposed to that idea?

    DR. MAKARY: Well, we’re at a low point right now, and the politicians are eager to show that they are for independent choice and liberty and living with this. But we’re gonna have an election and after that election we’re gonna see an increase in cases for sure. I don’t think we’re gonna see hospitalizations bump.

    But as long as we’re mass testing everybody, you’re gonna see cases bump up ’cause this is a seasonal virus like flu and RSV and every other seasonal virus. And all of these issues are gonna reignite. It’s gonna be another massive battle around the exact same issues because we’ve not studied the interventions that have been done.

    We’ve never studied cloth masks and school closures. So it’s everyone’s opinion right now. And you’re gonna see all these issues reignite. For the schools that want to do mandates for vaccines I would ask them, “How many healthy kids have died of covid?” No one knows. “What are the vaccinated related complications?” No one knows. I don’t know how you can mandate something without knowing those numbers.

    BUCK: Dr. Makary, it’s just at some level because things are getting better right now, Fauci yesterday or whatever it was said the pandemic is over and now it’s, “Oh, it’s not over. We’re just in a new phase of the pandemic.” But they’re recognizing the politics have shifted here. It’s more about politics than it is actually about the science with the people that are making a lot of these determinations.

    Do you think we’re ever gonna get an honest accounting of what has really gone on here? Specifically, what would it take for the medical community to finally say, “You know what? What kind of study do we have to do so that we never have to wear those stupid cloth masks ever again?”

    DR. MAKARY: (laughs)

    BUCK: I know that in Spain, I think it was 4-year-olds – it might have been 5-year-olds and 6-year-olds — one age-group did masks, the other did not mask, not only was there no difference. I saw this study, in one group being safer. The curves were exactly the same. The caseload goes up with one group; the caseload was going up with the other.

    It went down at the same time as well because it made absolutely no difference. What would we have to do? How could we design a study so that Fauci would have to say, “Okay. Yeah, cloth masks are a complete waste of time”?

    DR. MAKARY: You know, the study came out of Finland showing absolutely no difference in the schools with cloth mask mandates versus optional masks. I wish the New York Times or the Washington Post or any one of these outlets that have been dangling fear in children and scaring the crap out of parents, would send one reporter to Europe where the schools have been open free and clear without masks almost the entire pandemic.

    What we have is a medical establishment that does not want the answer to rigorous study of these interventions. They could have studied cloth masks in one week when the pandemic hit us two years ago. They chose not to. They let this debate rage for two years until we found out from studies overseas and the study by Tracy Hoag in California. They don’t study natural immunity.

    They won’t study. They didn’t study surface transmission for months! You could have done that experiment in one day. So they had every American pouring gallons of alcohol based solutions on their mail and bags from the grocery store. Why not just do the science instead of going on all the media outlets and hypothesizing and opining and throwing out your opinions? This is a complete failure of science.

    CLAY: That’s well said: “A complete failure of science.” It’s frustrating the science failed. But what you said also is a further failure, which is the media is supposed to exist to speak truth to power and hold those in power accountable. You just mentioned something. New York Times, Washington Post, they basically won’t let their readers know that kids have almost no danger from covid. Why do you think that still is two years into this mess?

    DR. MAKARY: Well, I think they’re supporting the narrative that’s been put out there by the Faucis and establishment. Why does…? Here’s the question for the media. “Hey, CDC, Dr. Fauci, where are the statistics on suicide in 2021? We always get those statistics in a timely fashion from CDC’s office of vital statistics. Why aren’t you reporting them?

    “Why don’t you send a reporter to Europe and look at the schools there? Why did we implement martial law on young people when we don’t have a documented case of a healthy young person dying, still?” So this has been the failure. And you’re getting a glimpse into the risk intolerance of Dr. Fauci.

    He won’t even go to the White House Correspondents’ Dinner. He’s had four doses of the vaccine in his system, he doesn’t have any risk factors beyond age, and he doesn’t feel comfortable with a high-quality mask to a dinner? This is the guy who’s been running our policy for two years? People are getting a sense as to what’s going on behinds the scenes.

    BUCK: What do you want to say –

    CLAY: Thank you.

    BUCK: — to everyone listening across the country? You know, are we gonna be able to live normal lives going forward do you think or is this gonna continue to be a fight?

    DR. MAKARY: Well, we gotta be open to a more dangerous variant. It’s unlikely, but we have to be honest and open to it. The current public health officials have zero credibility. They should step aside for the sake of public health – and, look, for me personally, once I got immunized, I lived a normal life, and I think that’s good prescribing. We can’t close swimming pools in perpetuity as some people want to do because somebody could die from a swimming accident. We’ve got to learn to live with this and respect individual choices.

    CLAY: Fantastic stuff, as always, and thank you for all the work you have done being willing to speak out when it was not popular to speak out about many of these covid restrictions and policies that were put in place. Thanks, Doctor.

    DR. MAKARY: Thanks so much, guys.

    CLAY: That is Dr. Marty Makary. Encourage you to go follow him on Twitter.

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    28 Apr 2022

    BUCK: For a moment, I want to talk about the situation with the war in Ukraine, which is looking very much like it’s going to drag out for many months — some are even talking about years now. For one thing, you have the Biden administration I think often taking exactly the wrong lesson away from things.

    BUCK: Again, they’re almost right here except the real issue is being hostile to fossil fuels and domestic production of it in this country. Instead, they want to talk about windmills and solar. And, Clay, there’s also the… Tell me about what’s going on with Canada and hockey right now.

    CLAY: I saw this story and I couldn’t believe it, so I had to go research it. Canadian Hockey League, which is — and I’m not a hockey expert for some of you out there that are — a big feeder to the NHL. They draft a lot of young guys and develop them, and then a lot of those guys end up playing in the NHL which obviously is the best hockey in the world.

    So the CHL this year, Canadian Hockey League, is banning the drafting of anyone from Russia. So if you are a 17- or 18-year-old kid who was born in Russia and you are a really good hockey player and you were hoping to come to North America, continue to develop your skills, and then grow into the NHL, they are not allowing you to be drafted because of the Russia invasion of Ukraine. My mind is almost exploding over this, Buck, that you’re holding individual athletes responsible for the choices that their country makes.

    BUCK: And I think this is also counterproductive because now the six-Ukraine-flags-in-their-bio Americans are creating the situation where Russians — rational nationals all over the world and at home in Russia — are thinking, “So even if we have nothing to do with this, we can’t stop this, we’re now punished.”

    CLAY: That’s right.

    BUCK: They’re creating a siege mentality that’s actually going to, in many ways I think, bolster support internally for Putin because it’s the world against all Russians, not against Putin. That’s not the right message.

    CLAY: Yeah. And they’re building on Wimbledon’s not allowing the Russians to play. I mean, all of this is crazy. Individual athletes! We’re not talking about the country itself.

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    Matt Walsh Tells Us How Johnny the Walrus Triggered Amazon

    28 Apr 2022

    CLAY: We have Matt Walsh. But first for those of you out there that are not familiar with this story, I want to play a clip of Amazon employees losing their minds over the success of his children’s book, to kind of put into context some of the questions that we’re gonna be asking Matt here about. Let’s listen to that.

    BUCK: Wow. That’s quite an endorsement of the book, by the way. Matt Walsh of the Daily Wire with us now. Hey, Matt, how you doing?

    WALSH: Yeah, doing great. Once we do the — I guess will now be our fourth printing, I want to take some of those superlatives and put them there on the cover. Actually, “one hell of a problem” would be good.

    BUCK: Matt, just so everyone understands, you speak from a perspective of particular knowledge because it is without question that you are a best-selling children’s book author/gender expert. And so what is Johnny the Walrus, like, so people understand what the book is?

    WALSH: It is a legitimate children’s book, no matter what Amazon might say about it now. It’s written on cardboard, it’s a board book for preschoolers and it’s about a young boy who pretends to be a walrus and his mother is, you know, a little bit confused and kind of progressive and so she takes that self-identity seriously and endeavors to raise her child in his walrus self-identity and even trying to get him medically transitioned into a walrus.

    But the good news is by the end, you know, there’s some sense talked into her and she realizes that just because her child does something and is pretending something doesn’t mean it’s actually true, and she learns to accept him and he learns to accept himself for who he really is. So, it’s actually… You know what? It’s actually a book of true self-acceptance – which, when I was a kid, it’s like every children’s book had a message of self-acceptance. And now, apparently, that’s a traumatic message to Amazon, anyway.

    CLAY: It’s so interesting here because the satire — and thanks for joining us, Matt. The satire is so perfectly delivered. (laughing) I mean, you had Amazon employees basically brought to tears over the conceit of your children’s book. And yet I feel — and I’m curious if you feel this — that there’s suddenly… It felt like a long time ’cause a lot of us have been out here fighting this insanity forever, it feels like.

    There suddenly is a recognition that the left wing in this country has completely lost its mind. Buck and I are feeling that uprising. Do you feel it as well, based on what you’re doing and when you’re sharing these videos, where you use to be — like us — a little bit outside of the mainstream, but now everybody’s like, “These guys that everybody was saying were extremists are actually totally normal and it’s the other people who have lost their minds”?

    WALSH: Yeah, I definitely feel that. I mean, this is something that, like you said, for years I’ve been talking about this issue; we’ve been talking about it. And it does. I do feel like there’s something of a cultural shift. There’s the tied is turning able to say. I mean, the fact that — and Johnny the Walrus, it’s a small thing, of course it’s like a small salvo in the cultural battlefield.

    But even in a small way the fact that the number one book in the country right now is a board boom for preschoolers satirizing gender ideology, that would have been unthinkable. Up until it happened was kind of unthinkable that it would happen but it’s a microcosm of this larger shift that is happening and I think it has to do with a lot of different things and one of them certainly is the fact that the left has just…

    They’ve had victory after victory after victory of basically running unopposed in the culture and have just marched, kept marching forward, progressing in their own kind of way. And have they finally crossed over a line where people are saying, “This is too far. I can’t…” There are a lot of just sort of normal people in the country willing to tolerate and accept I think much more than they should have tolerated and accepted.

    But you get to a point where it’s like this is just too much now. And when you’re going after children and people can see that you’re going after children, you’re doing it so explicitly, trying to indoctrinate them into this insane ideology, I think that maybe was just the final straw for a lot of people.

    BUCK: It was also remarkable… We’re speaking to Matt Walsh. He is of course the Matt Walsh podcast at The Daily Wire and author of the book Johnny the Walrus, which we’re talking to him about, which caused obvious consternation inside of Amazon. We heard just a few moments ago Clay had that sound for everybody of some Amazon executive probably on conversational health or whatever, talking about how upsetting it is.

    Very problematic, a hell of a problematic book that Matt has, but beyond that, Matt, I said everyone listening should know, they had an enraged customer leave a voice mail about your book that they then played in this Amazon meeting. This is all since come out. It’s all been leaked. Here is the enraged customer, and I wanted to have you respond to her complaint about your book.

    AMAZON CUSTOMER: You’re selling a manual to teach kids to bully other kids to commit suicide! I talked to (audio drop) he said she was going to get the book off of your site. Now he is bragging that he has the number one book. You are still gonna continue to sell it. And now he’s bragging and that he’s glad it’s going to make the LGBTQIA kids — especially transgenders — commit suicide. He’s bragging about it on Twitter!

    BUCK: What do you say, Matt?

    WALSH: Well, I was certainly bragging about the book and have continued to brag about it. I obviously have not been bragging about it’s causing anyone to commit suicide, ’cause of course it actually will not cause that at all and this… She has basically come up with her own kind of dark, gritty, reimagining, reboot of my book.

    She’s included a lot of plot details that are just not in it at all. In fact, the funny thing here is the book doesn’t mention transgenderism at all, and it certainly doesn’t call for anyone to be bullied or anything like that. She’s just inventing things. She’s inventing things in the book that simply aren’t there, nothing even close to it’s there.

    And like you pointed out, you know, it’s one of them if just one kooky woman comes up with that, Amazon is playing this in their meetings! They’re endorsing it. I mean they say in the leaked audio. They’re like, “She does a good job of summarizing the book” or whatever. So they are endorsing her version of it, which is a total fantasy.

    But this is what you get on the left, that, yeah, I mean, what she’s describing is not the book at all, but they feel — you know, as the offended people, they feel — like that’s what the book is saying, and so since they feel that way, then that’s actually what the book is. That’s kind of the way they see it, I guess.

    BUCK: It also feels Matt, like this is an extension of the speech that the left doesn’t like equals violence game that they play. It’s not just that they don’t like the book. The book is going to cause suicide based on nothing other than just existing. But it feels like this is something that is often done to justify censorship particularly on this issue is that it’s actually violence, like, “Your words are violence!”

    WALSH: Yeah, absolutely. And the suicide thing in particular, I mean, we can kind of… You listen to that and you kind of laugh the woman ’cause it’s so absurd but at the same time there’s something really dark and insidious here. First of all, just using suicide as a cudgel in this way is really gross. But we get so used to it ’cause what you always get on the left, and especially when it comes to this issue.

    Because the real serious thing… Like, they can say whatever they want about my book. But the thing is that line about, “Oh, you’re causing suicide,” this is what parents hear when their, you know, little 12-year-old girl comes home from school saying, “I think I’m a boy,” and they go to a counselor and the counselor will tell the parents, “Oh, well, you have to go along with the transition or she’ll kill herself.”

    This is the kind of emotional blackmail that’s being used to very serious effect, to cause this, you know, 10 times — like 10X jump — in trans identification among the youth, and a lot of it is through exactly the kind of thing we just heard, this emotional blackmail.

    CLAY: Do you think Matt, in your experience that one thing the left wing has not yet recognized because they’re so wrapped up in their own insanity is how much of losers they are? And I mean that in the context of comedy for so long… If you went back in time and you were talking about Howard Stern, for instance, before he lost his mind.

    That call would be the kind of call that he would play on his radio show to make fun of that woman for being a histrionic loser. If you look at what happened with the Dave Chappelle protest — I’m sure you saw those videos which were so phenomenal where the guys counterprotested — and they were walking around saying, “Hey, we like jokes,” and they broke his sign, and like accused him of trying to use it as a weapon.

    I think what’s puncturing the left right now is they don’t even realize how ridiculous they are or what total losers they are. They have adopted such an incredibly ridiculous position and they’re so unable to self-satire now because that would be the “words are violence” that Buck was referencing.

    This is one of the most fertile comedic terrains I can ever remember, and there are still very few people trodding it. Do you feel that way when you’re kind of on social media on a day-to-day basis or you see…? I can only imagine how much you were cackling when you saw this video. It had to be like the greatest thing could have ever happened.

    WALSH: Oh, yeah. It’s the pinnacle of my career, I think. I don’t know if it’s gonna get better than that. But I totally agree with you, and this is something I was talking about this morning. You talk about the cultural shift that’s happening, part of it is — and this is an underrated part of it but really significant part — is that the right, right now, is way funnier than the left.

    And is having a lot more fun, I think, way better at kind of mockery, satire, trolling, all this kind of stuff. I think on the right is a much better source of that and that has not always been the case. I mean, for the longest time it was the other way around. I can’t remember the last time that someone on the left did, like, anything at all.

    And it used to be completely reversed. And part of that is there’s so much low-hanging fruit here I can’t help it. They make it so easy to make fun of. And also of course on the left their ideology just forbids them from laughing about almost anything anymore, and I think that’s certainly hurting them as well.

    BUCK: Matt, before we let you go, I’m just wondering you have gone around the country, I think you have a documentary about it where you ask a lot of activist left wingers, “What is a woman?” Has any of the trans activists or the left-wing apparatus folks…? Have any of them come forward to actually take up your challenge of a definition of what is a woman?

    WALSH: No. We do have the documentary is gonna come out in a few weeks and I’ll have a lot more information about that in the next week or two. But, yeah, we did. I went all around the country and even across the world to the far reaches in some cases, and I did not find a single person on the left, not one single person — and I talked to some of the so-called experts too, some world-leading experts, and none of them were able to simply define the word “woman” or even talk coherently about it. And it is pretty incredible. That will all be in the film.

    BUCK: By the way, can folks still buy Johnny the Walrus on Amazon?

    WALSH: As of right now, it’s number one on Amazon, until I just poke the bear too much and they get so sick of it they have to take it down. For right now it’s still there and you can go buy it.

    CLAY: How many copies of this book, by the way, have you guys sold of Johnny the Walrus, roughly? Do you even know?

    WALSH: I don’t know exactly, but it’s been tens of thousands of copies. It’s so many copies we’ve sold of this book.

    CLAY: What did you think that you might sell when you wrote this children’s book? You’ve sold tens of thousands. Has this wildly exceeded your expectations for what would happen?

    WALSH: It has. I knew the market was there and so I thought that it’d be successful, but it has far outstripped my expectations for sure. But also it’s been a big assist from the left and from Amazon and some of the stuff that I just couldn’t have anticipated that’s, obviously, helped us quite a bit in selling the book.

    BUCK: The book is Johnny the Walrus. The author is Matt Walsh. Matt, always appreciate you coming by. Thanks, man.

    WALSH: Thanks a lot, guys. Appreciate it.

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    28 Apr 2022

    CLAY: I’m not sure that we’ve ever been in a situation more where Republicans are winning. I’m gonna use a sports analogy for you. Winning big. It’s like 42-3 right now as we get ready for the midterms. What we gotta avoid happening here is getting Democrats… I think you just gotta run out the clock. My concern is Democrats are trying all these sorts of Hail Marys now.

    The potential revocation of all the student loan obligation, trying to raise taxes, corporate tax rates, still trying to get through some of this Build Back Better. There’s a lot of Republicans who listen to this show in the Senate and in the House and their staffs. You guys have to delay, delay, delay and not allow Biden to do any worse damage to the country.

    Because, Buck, by the time we get to Memorial Day, it’s midterm season. People are taking off for the summer; it’s gonna be really hard to pass things. We’re almost to May. Hopefully all the damage that Biden has done can be curtailed in some way by not allowing him to do more. And then you know in ’23 and ’24 without control of Congress, they’re not gonna be able to get anything done so I’m concerned about the Hail Mary moves right now in the Democratic Party.

    BUCK: Well, that’s clearly what is pushing… The notion of the Hail Mary for political reasons is why the Biden administration is thinking about a dramatically expanded version of student loan… They call it forgiveness. It’s just transferring the debt to the public. The money has already been spent. So the language we use here shouldn’t reflect that.

    It’s not just like you wave a hand like, “Oh, yeah, that never happened.” That is obviously not the case. And then beyond that I think if we’re gonna talk about student loan… There’s so much here structurally that should be taken seriously. One is schools are too expensive and the reason they’re too expensive is because they’ve been able to count on the federal government to write the checks.

    To allow people to go with no collateral, no actual assessment of whether this is a good risk for any individual to take out these loans. You went to law school. I got into business schools, Clay, and I didn’t go ’cause I was gonna have take out massive loans. Instead, I went to work for Glenn Beck. It worked out well for me in the end.

    The point is I looked at it as, “I don’t want to be $200,000 in the hole for student loans, because they’re non-dischargeable, and that’s the other part of this trying to get some attention here. Why is it bankruptcy…? Bankruptcy is in the Constitution, isn’t it? Bankruptcy is something that goes back to English common law for sure.

    And you have a non-dischargeable debt for your student loans? Why? Because if it was dischargeable, then we’d have to actually look at the system and people would say, “Well, where is this money coming from, and where is it going, and what’s gonna happen to it?”

    CLAY: Yeah. And I’m glad you brought that up, because there needs to be some analysis of the amount of money that kids are taking out based on the major. And a huge percentage of student loan debt actually doesn’t even come from undergrad. It comes from grad school. So for instance, I’ll give you an example.

    You mentioned the amount of money you have to take out. In order to become a lawyer most people end up owing six figures or more, but the positive is you come out and you make over six figures as a young lawyer, by and large, if you do a decent job. There’s a lot of people, Buck, taking out over $100,000 in loans, much of it backed by the federal government, to come out and be, for instance, a social worker, and you make $40,000 a year.

    Now, I’m not trying to knock the job of a social worker. I’m just saying there’s no analysis of whether this is good debt or bad debt, right? You can’t go buy a brand-new Mercedes if you don’t have the income to reflect that you can afford that car. Why are we allowing people to take out hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans when they’re going to have jobs that never pay enough to pay back that cost? That seems to me to be a fundamental fraud that’s being perpetrated by many of these schools.

    BUCK: It’s also a payoff to the Democrat voter out there. I mean, a lot of the people that are pushing for this are Democrats – politically, they’re Democrats. And you have to wonder why just this category of debt? By the way, credit card companies also — credit cards largely — nondischargeable.

    What the heck is the point of bankruptcy laws? By the way, Article I, Section 8, clause 4 authorizes Congress to enact uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States. Bankruptcy is a very important concept, and you hear it and it sounds scary. It actually exists to free people —

    CLAY: That’s right.

    BUCK: — from the chains of debt servitude for their whole lifetime. So notice that you really look at this, there should be a whole conversation: Why are these categories of debt that exist that are non-dischargeable in bankruptcy? That should be anathema. That shouldn’t exist et al. But Biden just wants to use the money guns. Your other point, Clay, what are they gonna try to do last minute? Everything they can. Buy people off, lie, cheat, steal. You name it. Anything to stay in power.

    CLAY: It’s Hail Mary time, and Republicans just have to run out the clock. That’s all they need to do to avoid disaster with more Biden insanity.

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    28 Apr 2022

    BUCK: Our friend Lisa Boothe of Fox News is with us now. She’s got a great podcast out there you can all check out. The Truth with Lisa Boothe. Lisa, thanks for hanging out with the two of us. Appreciate it.

    BOOTHE: Buck, Clay, how’s it going?

    BUCK: We’re good. It’s funny ’cause your podcast, The Truth with Lisa Boothe, a great time to talk with you about the ministry of truth, or at least the DHS anti-disinformation overview board or whatever. At the same time that Elon has offered to buy and has had an accepted bid for Twitter, it feels like something is shifting right now, Lisa.

    BOOTHE: Well, weird coincidence, right? So, you’ve got Elon Musk trying to buy Twitter with the idea of actually having a place for free speech, free conversation, in the public domain — actually wanting to change the business model that Twitter has been, which is essentially just censoring conservatives like us. And then all of a sudden now the Biden administration’s like, “Oh, let’s set up this ministry of truth!”

    But I could thank him because that’s the whole point of my podcast. You know, I launched it last year. We’re relaunching on Monday with iHeart, with Premiere Networks. Everyone can find it wherever you find your podcasts. But the whole point is this idea that we live in a society now where the truth really doesn’t exist, and the whole point to the left is they want to control what is truth.

    They want to control the language that we can — that we use. And, if they do so, they control society. And so we’re in this really big fight right now for truth. And Democrats want to live in a world where women could be men and men can be women? Right. You’ve got women and women’s prisons getting pregnant because they’re letting men in and yet the left wants to set up a society where you can’t say basic facts, right?

    So, we’ve gotta fight that. So, that’s really the whole point of my podcast. And then also it rhymes. You know, you’ve you got The Truth with Lisa Boothe, it sounds nice, so there’s that too. But it’s just like getting to the bottom of this stuff and just speaking the truth and not being afraid of all this garbage, this clown world that we live in.

    CLAY: Lisa, what do you think about Elon Musk getting accused of being a misogynist because he called out the people who made the decision to block the Hunter Biden laptop story and Twitter’s immediate response is to say, “Oh, this is a misogynist. How dare you call out these people!” Shouldn’t it be fair game to call out people on Twitter regardless of their background when they make awful decisions, and shouldn’t those people have to wear the results of those awful decisions? I just don’t understand how misogyny has anything to do with that choice.

    BOOTHE: They want to always use these as, like, a shield and a sword, right? They can could you see people of this but then the second things get a little tough they’re like, “Oh, and the victim.” That’s what Hillary Clinton did, that’s what Kamala Harris did. Remember the debate with Mike Pence and everyone was like, Oh, he was mansplaining!”

    It all like garbage. And it’s just an ability to sort of wield this power when they want to use it. And I’m just over it. Like, I don’t play into this whole like victimhood garbage. Look. I grew up with three brothers. I worked in politics. Just suck it up, butter public. It’s just annoying where we live in this world where everyone is so sensitive, and it’s really just being used as a political weapon. They don’t really care about anything else. I hardly… I mean, it’s just ridiculous.

    BUCK: Speaking to Lisa Boothe. Her podcast is The Truth with Lisa Boothe. You can also check her out on Fox News where she frequently appears. Lisa, the Biden administration… Clay shared this clip out earlier today where Biden does have it looks like a short-circuit for a moment. I mean, he looks like he just doesn’t really know where he is.

    And you have worked in politics, and obviously a lot of political commentary. Where do you think this goes for that matter? They’re heading into a midterm that is not going to go well. Just a question of how poorly it goes for Democrats I think at this point, unless something crazy happens. And then you’re gonna have a president that is increasingly obviously not up for this. Do you think they just try to push him through for another term? What’s the strategy?

    BOOTHE: Well, I think it will be interesting where the Hunter Biden stuff goes because I feel like if it catches some speed, it’s because they’re trying to nuke Joe Biden and get him out of office. So I think that’ll be interesting to watch, but look. It’s blatantly obvious to everyone that Joe Biden is senile, that he has lost a step, that he is not equipped to be commander-in-chief.

    And obviously, Buck — as you know — it has consequences because who’s watching that? You’ve got people like Putin, you’ve got North Korea, you’ve got China, all of our enemies are watching this and saying that if you want to seize — you know, if you’re China, you want to eventually take — Taiwan, now is probably your opportunity to do so.

    Because we have a man in the office who probably should be in a retirement home, not the White House and we’re incredibly weak and we’re in a really precarious situation, a dangerous situation as a country right now. So I really think it’s imperative for Republicans to take back the House and the Senate. Now, it’s important to get Republicans who will actually fight and not, you know, people who are just going to bend down and kowtow to the left,.

    But it’s important. I mean, we’ve got a lot of these big fights ahead of us, you know, obviously as we even saw with covid, you know, we’re teetering on the edge of tyranny and a lot of people are willing to go along with it. So it’s… You know, we’re in a dangerous time as a country right now for a lot of different reasons.

    CLAY: Lisa, where do you think we’re headed? Buck and I obviously talk a lot about the midterms in 2022, but also looking beyond there. I watched the clip and watched Joe Biden talking earlier today, and I feel like you can see him getting worse. Every single month he’s not as good as he was the month before, and that certainly is going to continue. I find it hard to believe they’re going to run him — certainly without a challenge — in the 2024 race. What do you think happens with Trump, what do you think DeSantis does? How would you handicap right now 2024 as we sit here 2-1/2 years out from that election?

    BOOTHE: Well, obviously the DeSantis equation, I think a lot of it depends on what Trump the ultimately decides to do. I don’t know. If you’re him, do you want to go through this all again? He’s probably the most investigated man in America. Do you want to go through all that again? I don’t know. That’s a question for him. If not Trump, obviously DeSantis.

    For Biden, I don’t think he’s gonna run again in 2024. I think they’re gonna get rid of him. He’s so weak. He’s a liability to the left. He probably would lose, regardless who Republicans end up running in 2024. But in terms of where we’re heading as a like a country and just larger questions, I really do think we’re at a time as a country like what are we, right?

    Like what do we believe as Americans, after going through covid, after seeing tyranny firsthand, after seeing how many politicians want to abuse that kind of power. We are close to some sort of Australia scenario or Canada where they’re punishing citizens for not getting vaccinated, not getting a vaccine that they don’t need.

    So I think we’re in a really interesting and consequential time as Americans of just figuring like, “Who are we? What are our core values?” You know? And if you’re the left and you hate this country as they do, you don’t believe in the Constitution, no wonder they’re letting millions of people come into our country (chuckling) not even defending our borders because they want to destroy this nation.

    They want to change this nation — and what easier way to do that than letting millions of people in that don’t share our values, don’t believe in America, don’t believe in a rule of law. We are literally at a point where it’s about the survival of the country, and the survival of the nation that we know, that we love, that our Founding Fathers founded, and that’s enshrined in the Constitution. But that’s where we are as a country. So it’s like, yeah, it’s the horse race stuff that I love and you guys love, but it’s also just core values, like, “Who are we? What are we as a nation?”

    BUCK: The Truth with Lisa Boothe is the podcast. Lisa, thanks to coming to hang with us. Coming back on soon.

    BOOTHE: Also, I would use my AirPods, but I accidentally put them in the washing machine last night (laughing), and then I used my AirPod finder, and it led me to the washing machine. So good to know it works but bad to know that I nuked my AirPods.

    BUCK: The wonders of technology. There we go. All right, Lisa. Thanks so much.

    BOOTHE: All right, thanks, guys. Take care.

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    CLAY: Buck, we have talked a lot on the program about how we disagree with vaccine mandates that were put in place by many different companies, sometimes — for instance, in your home of New York City — it was implemented and demanded by the city legal structure, and so there weren’t choices to be made for individual employers.

    Thankfully, the OSHA mandate that Joe Biden tried to put in place was struck down by the Supreme Court. It wasn’t for health care workers, by the way, and we still feel for a lot of you out there that had to make the very difficult decision of whether or not to keep your job or get the covid shot. Certainly, also same thing for a lot of soldiers out there.

    Whether you’re in the Army, whether you’re in the Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force, a lot of people had to make choices about whether or not to get the covid shot there as well. The reason why I bring this up is, you should be, I believe — and I think most of our audience believes — able to share your opinion about whether the covid shot should be required in order for you to maintain your job.

    Back in September, an ESPN anchor named Sage Steele went on Jay Cutler’s podcast. We’ve had Jay Cutler actually on the show, Buck. He is a former quarterback in the NFL, now lives near me here in Nashville and has been outspoken against the mask mandates on kids. His kids go to a public school near where mine go.

    So she went on this podcast, Buck, and she said, “I don’t agree with Disney/ESPN mandating that everyone has to get the covid shot in order to keep their job,” and ESPN took action against her for sharing those opinions. And yesterday afternoon, Buck, in the state of Connecticut, Sage Steele filed a lawsuit against ESPN arguing that that restriction violated both Connecticut law and her contract in not allowing her to speak out on her opinion.

    Outside of work, by the way, not at work, not on television, but outside of work on another podcast. She says that they basically were suspending her without saying it publicly and that they took her off a lot of the biggest and best events that she otherwise had been enjoying. I think it’s a really intriguing story to see how this lawsuit ends up playing out because of the particular aspect of the Connecticut law which guarantees employees the right to say what they think.

    BUCK: You think she’s gonna be able to win in this lawsuit, by the way? How do you think it’s gonna go?

    CLAY: She’s in the air. So ESPN is not pulling her off the air. I think she’s got an intriguing case. Under, again, Connecticut law — which I’m not an expert in, but based on my reading of Connecticut law — you can’t be fired for something that you say that has nothing to do with your job outside of that job. So based on that rudimentary legal knowledge, I think she certainly has made a case that could not progress to the point of a jury being able to hear this thing before all is said and done. So it’s one to follow if you also have been trying to fight back against vaccine mandates at your place of work.

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    BUCK: I just want to say that I’m a New Yorker and earlier this week poll came out from Siena College that the two biggest concerns for people in New York are the economy — which is, oh, everyone always wants to be able to pay their bills, have stuff, and feel like they have some economic security. But crime — economy and crime, those are the two biggest things.

    The largest city in America, people are worried about, not just Republicans, everybody. This is a Democrat majority city. I think registrations are about eight to one in New York, Democrat to Republican. If Staten Island seceded to become its own territory or part of New Jersey or something, then it would be probably 12. It would be even higher, 10 to one or 12 to one.

    But here we are looking at a crime wave that has hit all across the country. Houston is having a terrible time right now. We’ve obviously got a lot of folks listening, Clay. Houston is having a terrible problem with crime. Seattle, we have our new affiliate out there. Phoenix, big crime surges stretching now for 18 months, two years?

    You look on a timeline, it almost specifically goes to the June 2020 riots, undermining police. But also there was a lead-up to that, and it was progressive prosecutors. It was people in the criminal justice system who decided that they were going to “balance things out more in society.” There’s gonna be a kind of redistributive mentality when it comes to justice.

    We need to have some people just not go to prison because of historical injustice or because the criminal justice system is unfair or whatever it may be. They have these ideologies that they have been applying, and then they had a more free hand to push those things like no-cash bail and so-called bail reform laws, and all of these things came together in a perfect storm.

    It’s been a nightmare. Clay and I talk to you guys about this all the time. Thousands and thousands of people are dead in excess of what would have been expected in a normal year in America. Overwhelmingly young black men are affected by this. They are disproportionately affected as victims of the violent crime wave.

    So, all the people who talked about Black Lives Matter they should have to answer for what exactly the left has done here. And, Clay, on that notion of accountability, there’s a woman right now named Nusrat Jahan Choudhury. Now, the Democrats are very excited about this. She would be a federal judge for the Eastern District of New York.

    It’s a big job. Southern District, Eastern District, are big jobs. They handle very, very big cases in New York. And she is somebody who has also been an activist in the past. And Senator Kennedy asked her about something that she said that I want everyone to hear.

    BUCK: We do have the data: 17, Clay — in the year that she said this 17 — unarmed black men were killed in America, which is quite far from being killed every day by police in racist murders in America.

    CLAY: Well, and not only that, first of all, I wish we could hear the audio of her at Princeton. And I don’t know if they played that in the hearing. But it should be disqualifying to be a federal judge, if you, in a time of incredible tumult in this country, went before an impressionable group of and lied, okay? She said she said that as an advocate.

    Well, you can’t just lie, particularly when you are hoping to ascend to the federal bench in our judiciary, which is one of the biggest and most important jobs that anyone can have in the federal government, as we all know, based on the judge down in Florida, Judge Mizelle, I believe is her name, who ended the mask mandate.

    She was a federal district court judge, and I believe her opinion, so far, is the single most significant twenty-first century — so far, single most significant twenty-first century – -federal district court opinion. Okay? So when you have this woman, as you mentioned, Buck, in the Eastern District of New York, this is a big-time court.

    BUCK: Appointment. Big deal.

    CLAY: All of them are important, but there’s all sorts of significant cases in the New York City area that she would be adjudicating on a regular basis. And, Buck, even for 17, by the way, unarmed black men, “unarmed” does not mean without danger, right? You could be choking someone to death and be unarmed. You could be trying to pull a gun away from a police officer and technically be unarmed.

    It’s just wildly inappropriate — and this goes to one of the biggest lies that’s been told out there in general, which is leading directly to thousands of unnecessary deaths, and it is that police officers are out there “hunting” black men and trying to kill them which overwhelmingly the Democratic Party believed right now.

    BUCK: That number, that 17 number, was for 2019 just so everyone knows. I’m not sure about when she said this in her role as an advocate. We can go back and dig that up. But the number, let’s say it ranges from I think eight is the lowest I’ve ever seen unarmed black men killed by police — in the entire country! It’s not just for New York City.

    The entire United States of America, and some will have more like 50 or 60 depending on the year. Now, look. We always say, every life lost… Anytime a cop goes beyond what is lawful and moral and uses lethal force it’s a horrible thing. And there are incidents where that happens. And, by the way, conservatives say, “Yeah, lock that guy up.” Not some —

    CLAY: Let a jury decide whether or not he violated the law.

    BUCK: Right. But if — you know, it does happen. But this so rare. But the point is that she was part of, she was a reckless demagogue — and she went Columbia, then she went to Princeton, and then she we want to be Yale for law school, so she’s somebody who knows how to work the mentality of these institutions.

    We’re all supposed to think, “Oh, she’s so smart.” How could she feel good about saying that cops “kill unarmed black men every day in America.” And notice even knowing that it’s a lie… I mean, it’s such an obvious lie. Notice, Clay, that even when she’s pushed on it by Senator Kennedy here, she just does the usual, “Oh, well, I support law enforcement, and they do a tough job.”

    She should say, “I’m really sorry. That was slander, what I said. It was grotesquely dishonest. I am a panderer. I am a liar.” And the reason we’re focusing in on it is not just ’cause what Clay says. It’s true. Eastern District, big cases, federal bench, lifetime appointment. But she’s just emblematic of so many people who have done so well in this system in America, Clay, who are willing to lie about cops to advance their own political and personal purposes.

    CLAY: And the consequences here are we’re in the midst of — I believe the director of the FBI even came out and said it recently, Buck — the largest number of violent attacks he had ever seen, and the data supports it, on police officers nationwide. We’re in the midst of surging murders, as you said, that have overwhelmingly impacted young and black inner-city residents, which is where the vast majority of these crimes are taking place.

    And, by the way, the people who are killing most of these young black men, by and large, in these cities, are also young black men. So these lies — and I’m glad you brought this up today ’cause congratulations Senator Kennedy for also being willing to go after her with that detail.

    But, Buck, the data reflects in the Washington Post has a police shooting database, and this was a topic of obviously much debate, even in the world of sports, which is how I initially started paying a lot of attention to it because so many athletes were coming out and saying, “Oh, police are killing young minorities at an overwhelming rate.” There are around a thousand people a year on average that are killed by police. Now, most of these people are violent, they have guns in their hands, they’re perpetrating violence.

    BUCK: They’re literally shot swinging a bloody axe at an officer’s head. That’s what most of these are.

    CLAY: The vast majority. Right. Around a thousand. But what I think is always significant — and this is the data point that almost no one on the left even knows, because of the demagoguery that occurs by this woman and the lies that are spread: 75% of all people that are shot and killed by police officers are white, Hispanic, or Asian. Twenty-five percent are black.

    I think that that is a stat that even for our audience people are like, “Whoa, really?” Yeah: 75% of the people shot and I would every year by police officers — on average, multiyear, Washington Post database — are white, Hispanic, or Asian. Twenty-five percent are black. Now, “People will say, well black people represent 12 or 13% of the population.

    “So they’re shot at a higher rate than their population would reflect.” But remember, the people that police are interacting with are typically not your grandma, right? Like your grandma isn’t gonna be, by and large — maybe you got a really wild grandma. Your grandma, by and large, is not gonna be engaging in violence. Ninety-five percent of them are male, right?

    So it’s sexist, I guess, the way police are responding. No, ’cause men are more violent. And over half of all murders and violent crime as a whole are committed by black men, by and large, in this country. So the people that police are interacting with are more likely to be shot, which is why overwhelmingly the group that are shot are young men typically between the ages of 16 and 40.

    That is every year, 75% white, Asian, and Hispanic. It’s a stat that changes everything if it’s actually shared widely because it makes the argument that people like LeBron James have made, that police officers are out here “hunting” and attempting to find ways to kill black men. The data just does not reflect it in any way. That woman to me just based on that comment that she made, Buck? She should not be allowed to become a federal judge.

    BUCK: I would not be comfortable having that woman adjudicate a case that in any way I was a party to because the willingness to say something so inflammatory that she knows — and she’s admitting that she knew it was a lie at the time. She just went along with it and so many people did it.

    So many people played along with the Black Lives Matter narrative. The whole thing is so Marxist in its originals and in its approach to destroying social cohesion and the use of repetition of lies. The storyline was that black men are killed by cops out of racism without consequence in this country every day.

    That is a vicious lie that has really disastrous consequences for the whole country, including minority communities. That’s what we’ve actually seen. The movement made everything worse for everyone. People need to be held to account.

    CLAY: Thousands of people are dead today that would be alive — I really believe this — if Black Lives Matter didn’t exist, cops and regular citizens.

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